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Wednesday, 17 December 2008

The politics of envy and the actions of greed

24/09/2008 12:00:00 PM.  | Tim Brunero
Ever since Mal Turnbull got the job as Australia’s Tory top-dog all we’ve heard about is ‘the politics of envy’.

The Daily Telegraph was spewing forth about the great piles of envy being heaped on Mal in a recent editorial.

It told us the people who dared to point out Mal’s fabulous wealth would make it hard for him to understand the concerns of ordinary Australians were guilty of a great sin: envy.

“Envy is a corrosive, potentially ruinous force. This is the case regardless of whether one envies a schoolmate’s runners or a politician’s wealth,” the Terror whined.

“Countless acts of violence and criminality have been committed throughout history due to compulsive envy… Certain political philosophies are even based on envy.”

Sure envy is bad. It’s even a deadly sin. But isn’t greed as well?

Pity The Daily Terror wasn’t whinging about the ills of greed and ruthlessness from last week’s pulpit.

A quick look at Mal’s life, as the richest MP in parliament, might have proved for fruitful research.

Let’s start with recent history. This is a man who, even though he’s worth $133 million, has devised a cunning system for making sure he gets every cent possible of his parliamentary perks.

This is a man who uses his taxpayer funded travel allowance to pay $175 a night rent to his wife for him to stay in her Canberra townhouse.

Wouldn’t you think a man of his spectacular means would give the taxpayer a break, buy a house, and then bunk there when he was down Canberra way?

But let’s look a bit further back.

Let’s look back to his 2004 preselection for the seat of Wentworth that incidentally takes in the battler’s suburbs of Rose Bay, Double Bay, Vaucluse, Woollahra and Paddington.

In one of the most bitter, vicious and unprecedented preselection fights in recent history big Mal actually deposed the sitting Liberal member Peter King - again using his enormous wealth and silvertail contacts.

And what about a bit before that when Mal was the Chairman of Goldman Sachs?

Well this is where it really does get interesting because it was during his time there that he was involved in the biggest corporate collapse in Australian history.

Basically, Mal advised FAI directors on the proposed takeover of the company by HIH. This was after Mal had turned down a deal that would have seen Goldman Sachs take over the company, presumably because it was in bad shape. But he didn’t tell the FAI directors that and they sold the worthless company for around $295 million to HIH. The sale caused it to collapse.

Thousands of ordinary Australians and their small businesses lost millions and millions.

Liquidators for HIH have threatened to sue Mal over the affair. But a deal is already being done which may save him from many embarrassing court appearances in coming months.

But regardless of the legal outcome it doesn’t look great. If big Mal didn’t know FAI was worthless and didn’t fib just to make a quick buck – then he just did a bad job and didn’t manage to pick up what a dog the company was.

Either way, the episode should do nothing to endear him to Australian voters.

Of course, it doesn’t really matter to Mal, because you and me picked up the tab for the $5 billion collapse. It was the Federal Government which had to step in and save the ordinary Australians burnt by the massive corporate fallover.

In fact, ironically, it’s the Federal Government that is the main creditor who would get paid out if Mal or any of his corporate mates were to get fingered over the fiasco.

A Federal Government that Mal now wants to lead.

But in a world where rampant greed from the big end of town has almost ruined the global economy - is it really a ruthless ex-corporate cowboy we want running our government?

Do we really want a guy of Mal’s cut-throat reputation looking after the schools our kids go to and the hospitals our grandparents visit?

Sure Malcolm Turnbull may not have much reason to be envious of others – but when it comes to greed, recent history has shown he’s world class.

COMMENTS

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

I would prefer someone like Turnbull, even with the descriptions here, than someone like Rudd who has overseen a turn around in the economy which now promotes poverty. I see shops closing down. I see renters with nowhere to live. I see houses being taken from mortgage defaulters. Turnbull's policies would stop that, and reverse it. But the 'greed' label will stick even if he is successful.

Posted by: Happy Fun Ball, Carramar/Sydney

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Grow up and stop being so partisan. Name one Rudd policy that has caused problems. I agree that not enough has been done. We should be investing and diversifying public housing to alleviate the housing crisis, stop subsidising corporations and picking industry winners, protect consumers more and increase funding to public hospitals, schools, carers and pensioners whilst reducing military and defence budget. But explain what Turnbull would do? We need more SOCIAL action, not parliamentary sh*t

Posted by: Morgan Gibson, Brisbane

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Thats your problem Granny, we don't need socialist/social/nanny state policies, if you want that, come to NSW. We need a decent public health system, infrastructure, economic management and a PM who could survive on what pensioners earn.

Posted by: Patricia S, Sydney

Friday, 26 September 2008

Morgan, you have got to be kidding. Name one Rudd policy that has caused problems? What policy? He hasn't done any, so that's Rudd's problem! LOL.

Posted by: W O, Turramurra

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

But, I'm confused... Why is it any less of a nanny/fascist state when public money is being spent on subsidising and saving corporations and expanding the military budget? Correct me if I am wrong, but fascism survived firstly on an incestuous corporatist relationship between big business and the state (corporate handouts and saving with public money qualify?) and then expanded through an expansion of the military. Furthermore, there was little welfare in fascist states- social Darwinism & all.

Posted by: Morgan Gibson, Strathpine, Brisbane

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Thanks, Tim - more grist for the Costello mill.

Posted by: Neil Mason, Sydney

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Tim, still pretending to be a political correspondent! Do an expose on Rudd perhaps that will make your story more credible!

Posted by: RS ****, Sydney

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Turnbull wont last, watch this space remember you are talking the liberal party, perhaps the wig from the west j bishop might like a go at despatch box, god help Australia if this ever happens. I like the back bench seeing the likes of costello and friends siting there heads in shame with the likes of bishop & turbull running the show...We labour voters love the shambles with the libs....GO PM RUDD AND SHOW THEM HOW IT IS DONE.

Posted by: g maybury, sydney

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Typical ALP voter! Can't even spell the name of the party they so blindly follow then end their unintelligible spiel with some inane invocation to the PM. A PM who just happens to be overseas again shmoozing with the elites at the UN and who in reality views the average LABOR voting Australian with contempt. You people are nothing more than a means to an end for Kevin. His being PM is nothing but an ego trip and an extra page on his CV when he jumps ship to where he really wants to be. The UN

Posted by: DJ C, Baulkham Hills

Thursday, 25 September 2008

Sarah Palin and George Bush were all over the UN yesterday too DJC - is that allowed? There is a world economic crisis...

Posted by: Tim Brunero, Sydney

Friday, 26 September 2008

Tim, the problem is Bush, etc has done so much for the America whereas the useless Rudd has done nothing other than being a puppet frequent flyer. I will ask again - name me a single policy (not spin) that Rudd has done (not talk) so far!

Posted by: W O, Turramurra

Friday, 26 September 2008

WO - Bush has done so much for the America eh? Yeah. $600 Billion war. 600,000 dead Iraqis and 4000 dead American troops. More terrorism as a result of it. Biggest budget deficit in American history to the tune of around 450-500 Billion. Trashed Americas image in the eyes of the world. Left veterans for dead. Left the sick and poor to fend for themselves. And made sure his rich, fat, white American mates stay with their noses firmly in the trough. Well done indeed.

Posted by: Brian Henderson, The way it is

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Where did your info come from on the "richest man in parliament" Tim ? I believe Mr Rudd is actuallly worth $166mill, in fact richer than Turnbull.You should check out Peter McGaurens wealth, you may be surprised.As for HIH, APRA the Govt watchdog didnt even see the mess HIH was in..I am sure Turnbull would have known APRA had no concerns over HIH when he advised FIA to buy..besides Mal isnt the one being asked to give our grandparents a pension increase, or to put meat in NSW hosp. Labor is.

Posted by: susan lawe, gippsland

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Hey Tim, Does the federal government directly run the schools and hospitals...? I'm under the impression that they are under control of the inept state governments. So wouldn't that make your statement incorrect..?

Posted by: Tom Jones, Manly

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Cont: Turnbull isnt the PM , and we have another 3 years to go before another election. We would do better concerning ourselves with the wall to wall Labor Govt and its performance, state and federal. Rudd went to the polls as a man of the people, working families etc.In another month you will find it difficult to defend his overseas junketts and failure to perform.Trying to take the REAL issues of the day off Rudd by painting Turnbull as a silver tail can only work for so long. Clock is ticking

Posted by: susan lawe, gippsland

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

susan, susan, susan. Please refrain from placing comments on this site as all the factual errors your comments have reflect badly on yourself and on the comments contributors in general. For example, you find that PM Rudds WIFE is the wealthy one of two and since WA is no longer governed by Labor we thus no longer have "wall to wall Labor Govt".

Posted by: Russell Jones, Toowmba

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Jones is right Susan - It is not Rudd who is successful and wealthy it is his wife. Rudd is just another whimpering labor staffer who has sucked his way up the chain.

Posted by: Mark Sinclair, Maryland

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Yes Susuan......how dare you question the great one that is KEVIN!!! Of course the difference between the great KEVIN and Turnbull is that Turnbull did well and Rudd married well. I am certain that the idealogues would support the great bastion of enterprise that is the NSW Labor government for they have done so much?? Why wouldn't we want somebody that is successful running our country....the great KEVIN will not be around for ever so we will need somebody take over that is close

Posted by: James Taylor, Lane Cove

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Tim - I look forward to tomorrows piece on the other side of politics. How Kevin Rudd used money ruthless taken from Union dues to formulate a misleading and disceptive advertising campaign to win federal power. Once in power turning around and telling this same people that the economy is stuffed and that many will lose their jobs. It's one thing to abuse your own money another thing to abuse someone elses

Posted by: Mark Sinclair, Maryland

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Turnbull this Costello that..who cares, tell us something important, like where the hell is our PM? Does he know he can get WHOLE transcript of the UN council delivered almost real time? (if he got broadband happening)He doesnt HAVE to be there! Krudd the earth tripper, is he PM or is Gillard by default? Tell the little wax man to come home and do some work, thats what hes been elected for. Or is the bigger problem that he thinks his presence is required at UN finance council? Tossa.

Posted by: Nick Again, Maryborough

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Ahh, memories! This piece takes me back to my undergraduate days at Syd Uni where I would be harrassed by dreadlocked hippies of indeterminate gender in recycled clothing and militant lesbian doof ferals brandishing the latest issue of "Green Left Weekly" imploring me to buy a copy. (I always had to pay - they were socialists not collectivists). I relented once and paid. Alas it contained the same bile, the same poor grammar and the same ignorance of government as this sorry attempt at writing.

Posted by: DJ C, Baulkham Hills

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Tim .. journalists like you who wear their political colours on their sleeve and dump on anyone who is deemed a threat to your fearless leader Kevin 747 are the real threat to this countries prosperity. Your article is nothing but a personal attack on Malcolm Turnbull and your only objective is to demonise him before he begins to rip apart and expose this sham government that you and your comrades helped get into power. Disgusting journalism!!

Posted by: Peter Segar, oyster bay

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Don't make the mistake of classifying what Tim writes as journalism. His opinion is no more important or inciteful than that of Shannon Noll or Casey Donovan. Hes a cloned reality TV reject who writes a blog. Nothing more, nothing less. What does Reggie Bird or Baz and Gaz from The Block think about Malcolm Turnbull? Does anyone really care? Its called milking a modicum of fame for all its worth and his "articles" should be read within their proper context.

Posted by: DJ C, Baulkham Hills

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

It is an "opinion" piece you knob, it doesn't have to balanced. Just like Andrew Bolt writes extreme right-wing "opinion" pieces, which you would no doubt lap up as the words of a wise oracle, so Tim is allowed to spout his "leftie crap", as you would see it. Gees, if only people would THINK before they started typing.

Posted by: Russell Jones, Toowomba

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Come on Tim So easy to criticise from the side line, why dont you get out of the grand stand and onto the field. Mal is a self made man, he knows what its like to be a battler!!!

Posted by: Ben E, Pyrmont

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Can anyone tell the public who the hell is Tim Brunero? You wrote this article because you could not contain your envy. I wish my financial adviser was always 100% correct. I am no fan of MR Turnbull,( i was hoping for someone else) but I want my leader to be cunning, crafty , smart, whealer-dealer and succsessful in life because of it. Then I hope that he takes us for a ride on his -her's wave of success. l

Posted by: Happy Stein, Earlwood

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

dj that is rather harsh, Tim has done the hard yards gone to uni, he didnt just go on telly and then write for this site. while he may not get it right all the time. he is allowed his opinion. just the same as you are. did you go to journalism school? you seem to think you have the ability to write things on here for everyone to read. Anyway i enjoy what tim has to say & his style of writing. welcome back from New York Tim, hope you are over the bug you got over there.

Posted by: Belinda Hummie, New lambton

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

I wouldn't say hes done the "hard yards", Belinda. They don't call it a Bachelor of Attendance for nothing! Just because you enjoy his style doesn't mean hes necessarily immune from criticism. If he is too precious to have his writings commented on and opened up to scrutiny, why bother posting them in the first place? Why have a Your Say section at all? I thought that was the very point of having public blogs in the first place.

Posted by: DJ C, Baulkham Hills

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

you are allowed to critise dj didnt say you couldnt. i am also allowed to say that i thought what you said was harsh. Tim is never precious lol and i am sure if he was in the office today he would have answered you by now. but name calling and belittling someone isnt his style.

Posted by: Belinda Hummie, New lambton

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Name calling and belittling someone isn't his style?! Did you read his Sarah Palin rant the other day?

Posted by: DJ C, Baulkham Hills

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

he called mccain an old political tart and palin a gimmick, that was all the name calling he did. the only word he used wrong was that of retardation, that was probably insensative. other than that he like you are intitalled his views.

Posted by: Belinda Hummie, New lambton

Thursday, 25 September 2008

So name calling and belittling someone IS his style?!

Posted by: DJ C, Baulkham Hills

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Is that al you could find wrong Russel ?...WA has just sworn in their Premier...unlike the eastern states their economy is a little better, the previous Labor Govt didnt leave them broke...as for Rudds wife being the wealthy one, he has been married to her since 1984...You think he doesnt own half that money...its in her name so he can make like he understands how ordinary people live, and when questioned on his wealth he can say exactly what you did...Rudd plays you like violins

Posted by: susan lawe, gippsland

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

What susan meant to write was, "thanks Russell for pointing out those 2 errors, I will be more careful in the future and research my comments before composing and posting them. I realize that if my comments are full of errors, people will dimiss my opinions as been misinformed and my credibility will be diminished. Thanks Russell, my dear friend, again. Love susan"

Posted by: Russell Jones, Toowomba

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

ok susan i got this information from the age they say BRW magazine list the rudds combined wealth at $60 million, the turnbulls combined wealth at $133 million-plus (more like $170 million according to some pundits). Turnbull is the richest federal politician this country has ever seen. The McGauran family have a multimillion-dollar beef pastoral business Nambrok, near Sale in East Gippsland and various city hotel businesses. they dont disclose their net worth. that was from the canberra times

Posted by: Belinda Hummie, New lambton

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Belinda Hummie-Good on them-none of them are in jail so one must assume that they came by their wealth honestly. The Country need successful people more than it needs people sitting around whinghing about how much money some one else has earned.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

yes des, susan asked the question, i did the research. not difficult to do. no none of them have done jail time :o)

Posted by: Belinda Hummie, New lambton

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Must be comforting to live in blindness and ignorance. 'They haven't gone to jail so they must have made their money honestly'. Are you for real? Presidents Marcos, Suharto and Mugabe haven;t gone to jail for ripping off billions from their people. Neither have the Generals in the Junta running Burma. Old Joh only got off the hook because of a bent juror, and he didn't get his money from his missus baking scones.

Posted by: darren carrow, brisbane

Sunday, 28 September 2008

darren carrow- Your insides must be in a real mess with all the bile that you are living with.How can any senseble person compare people like Malcolm Turnbull and Kevin Rudd with the likes of the dictators that you have mentioned.Turnbull and Rudd live in a law abiding Country and are subject to due process. The dictators were a law unto themselves-so your comparison is meaningless-you are a bitter and twisted fool.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

why dont you research tim for yourself stein, we have no idea who you are, but we read your comments.

Posted by: Belinda Hummie, New lambton

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Tim, your views are very biased, almost make me want to vomit - we know where your allegiance lies. Can we expect a similar rant about any of your Labor mates? Perhaps Rudd, Garret etc who are also not short of a quid. What are you suggesting should be the amount of ones wealth before they don’t accept their working entitlements that your union mates always fight so hard to protect? Perhaps we means test pollies? Meanwhile, who is picking up the tab for Mrs Rudd whilst she is with Kevin in New York? Surely as an independently wealthy women she is picking up all her own costs or based on your ramblings perhaps she should 'shout' Kevin also? Disappointing Tim. You are usually a very interesting commentator - not this time!

Posted by: James Roach, Brisbane

Thursday, 25 September 2008

so it's ok for turnbull to steal a handbag if garrett and rudd did too?

Posted by: Tim Brunero, Sydney

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Tim, considering Labor has been in power in state governments all around Oz for long periods of time who are you to question Mal being in charge of hospitals and schools (They are run by the states???)? Considering it is your Labor mates who have been failing these systems for a decade best you keep your comments on the low down!

Posted by: James Roach, Brisbane

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Tim Brunero your personal attack on Malcolm Turnbull will not harm in any way whatsoever. A lot of what you call greed is actually self motivation and it is the self motivated people that are the biggest contributors to Society. Self motivated people are achievers and they create opportunities for themselves and for others and are an asset to their Country. Achievers inspire others to lift whereas people that envy tend to go along with the herd mentality and would like to see everyone pulled down to their level. As far as Malcolm Turnbulls travel allowances- do you have any evidence that the equally affluent Rudd has foregone any legal travel allowance? Think not-the way he is jetting around the World his snout is well and truly ensconced in the trough.

Posted by: Desmond Harris, Beacon Hill

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

My point was, who really cares ???Turnbulls wealth is no different to Rudds or anyone else's, they are ALL far richer than the "working families" they promised to stand by.. The other point was, figures and stats vary from one publication to the next...depends which one you choose to believe....we would all be better off concentrating on the Govt of the day and what they are doing for the people they represent. Turnbull isnt the PM, Rudd is ! BTW,the internet isnt always the best research data

Posted by: susan lawe, gippsland

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

We can look in half a doz newspapers and get 6 different figures concerning their wealth...none of them are going to disclose their true worth...suffice to say they have more than many of us...everyone would be far better concentrating on policy, regardless of party.. start barracking for your country and asking those who work for us in Govt to be accountable...especially those in the hot seat...the Govt of the day..and that, last time I looked, was Labor.

Posted by: susan lawe, gippsland

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Can you please can this wanna be biased, leftist idiot so don't have to read about his shameless and stupid indulgence in his love for all things socialist and Labor. Put simply, the Tim is an idiot who can't even be objective in his analysis. Lame. Get rid of him, I don't want a Liberal flankie but I want reporting of facts, not some idiot's drivel and bias, people like Belinda & the dork from Darling Downs etc read this as gospel and truth

Posted by: Patricia S, Sydney

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

It's an opinion piece you nitwit. It's not supposed to be fair and balanced, it's just supposed to be interesting and provocative and - given that fact that you've bothered to read the whole article, struggle through the comments and then subject people to your own idiotic contribution - I'd say mission complete.

Posted by: Tom Hagen, Griffith

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Go fly a kite you moron. Opinion piece or not, its biased and retarded, much like yourself. Judging by the commentary after each of his so called "opinion pieces" they aren't satifsying the readership. Union publications would appreciate his obvious Liberal hate

Posted by: Patricia S, Not from Griffith

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Once again Scatter Brain Brunero struggled to put 2 sensible syllables together without letting his Socialist Ideologies(Jealousy) come to the fore. If it is good enough for Brainless Brunero to expect "Big Mal" to buy some digs in Canberra; then it should also be good enough for Kevin OS and his Team of Tallentless Tools to do likewise. Of Course this will never happen nor will it be expected to by Tim who has a picture of Krudd on his shrine alongside the likes of Hitler,Starlin and Karl Marx.

Posted by: James H, United Socialist States of Australia

Thursday, 25 September 2008

So it's ok for turnbull to steal a handbag as long as Rudd did too?

Posted by: Tim Brunero, Sydney

Thursday, 25 September 2008

Don't worry Tim; You have plenty more handbags; and Kevin OS will wear any colour as long as he is in the limelight. As for Big Mal; he is a man's man and I very much doubt whether he would be interested in stealing your handbags.

Posted by: James H, United Socialist States of Australia

Friday, 26 September 2008

lol - i'll pay that james ;-)

Posted by: Tim Brunero, Sydney

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Patricia i am still waiting for my apology.(go back to palin story) sorry susan but i researched it on various sites and came up with the same answers. all i did was answer your question, didnt mean to upset you. nothing is getting done in parliment at present because they are too busy picking each other to pieces. its bloody stupid.

Posted by: Belinda Hummie, New lambton

Friday, 26 September 2008

you dont have to do illegal things to be successful .the banks generally dont break any laws but lack ethics and morality.people who use cheap overseas labour are not breaking any laws and yet are exploiting people. massive corporations who rip off other countries resources and prop up corrupt leaders are not breaking any laws. the fact is you can make lots of money completely legally. but that does not mean you are honest or moral.

Posted by: trevor crook, wiley pk

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Desmond; Tims personal attacks on people or things better endowed than him; whether it be it physically, mentally financially or spiritually; is almost legendary.Tim is the Court Jester of the Australian Journalism Fraternity.It was only a few months ago he bagged Hillsong Church as being a Cult and his next article he endoursed Scientology as a legitimate religion.The bloke has a lift that doesn't all the way to the top floor.Turnbull has Ability, Substance, Brains and Money; Tim is Jealous.

Posted by: James H, United Socialist States of Australia

Thursday, 25 September 2008

How embarrassing for you James. That Scientology piece was an april fools joke - go back and have a look at the date...

Posted by: Tim Brunero, Sydney

Thursday, 25 September 2008

derrr james

Posted by: james ufool, 7 hills

Thursday, 25 September 2008

Checkmate Tim; as I said; you are the Court Jester of the Australian Journalism Fraternity and you just admitted it. Most journalists would pull a stunt like taking a Jumbo under the Harbour Bridge; what you did was not only stupid; it was grosely irresponsible; and yes; I am aware it was an attempted April fools joke; the difference is; you are the fool. How embarrasing for you Tim; you are not even able to pull a simple April fools stunt without you ending up as the fool.

Posted by: James H, United Socialist States of Australia

Friday, 26 September 2008

Ahahahaha. Convincing back-tracking James! You turkey.

Posted by: You Goose, Sydney

Friday, 26 September 2008

keep talking James I'm sure you're convincing someone ;-)

Posted by: Tim Brunero, Sydney

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

I totally agree Belinda, it is bloody stupid...if this were the Coalition just in Govt I would be just as harsh on them...Attention should be on the party in power, NSW should be an example, no questions no scrutiny...the Govt in power should be under severe scrutiny, being asked hard questions, held to account.Rght now we have, they did this they did that, turnbull is rich, bishop is plagerising....The focus should be firmly on the elected Govt of the day and their performance.

Posted by: susan lawe, gippsland

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

just next time i find info for you susan say thanks :o). took me a bit of finding and researching. wonder what they will talk about tomorrow. probably bloody nothing again, its getting rather tiring. when every news outlet is talking about a bloody pig instead of what the government is supposed to be doing for the people, like increasing the pension. not how julie slipped up and oh he slipped up too and oh rees knew he took drugs oh and so on and bloody so on. gets me mad

Posted by: Belinda Hummie, New lambton

 

Wednesday, 24 September 2008

Your 15 minutes have to be up ... hopefully you'll get voted out of the house this week ...

Posted by: Larfing Mihedoff, Toorak, Melbourne

 

Thursday, 25 September 2008

Well done Tim, It's good to see someone pointing out Malcontent Spinbulldung's role in the HIH affair. I hope that he is not allowed to keep it out of court, but it does explain why he wants control of the Government. $175 a night in a nepotistic deal is pretty clever. It's like a new kind of Super Greed, a genetically modified Greedisgoodite, more power, more money, never enough. I am becoming fonder of Brengun every day, it's a pity his supporters all jumped ship, like. like, what are they?

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

Friday, 26 September 2008

lol

Posted by: Tim Brunero, Sydney

 

Thursday, 25 September 2008

I wasnt asking anyone to research for me Belinda, unless of course your Tim. I did ask where HIS info came from.

Posted by: susan lawe, gippsland

Thursday, 25 September 2008

Slowe, Your English teacher must be hiding in shame because you're really a sad case on the matters of what apostrophes are for. You are may be shortened to you're, but never to your.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

 

Thursday, 25 September 2008

I stopped reading Live News becasue of this Tim (to the left) Brunero. Get rid of him Live News and maybe next time you will make a profit. due to more readers. I am not right minded but left handed.

Posted by: Michael S, Sydney

Thursday, 25 September 2008

no, on second thought i really like tim brunero.

Posted by: Michael S, sydney

 

Thursday, 25 September 2008

Spell checker is back, oh well, I guess it makes him feel important. Far as I am concerned ill save characters where I can, if it means I am grammatically incorrect or mispelling, who cares, as long you get the gist...keep up the good work spell checker, the exercise may help to grow your small mind.

Posted by: susan lawe, gippsland

Thursday, 25 September 2008

hey listen, if u dont know how to spell English then gobak 2 ure own country

Posted by: sam lawe, leppington

 

Thursday, 25 September 2008

OHHHHHHHHHH Slowe, You were busy pulling prople up for their mistakes a while ago, one rule for you eh, and all that you can do is claim that you were saving space in this:"I wasnt asking anyone to research for me Belinda, unless of course your Tim. I did ask where HIS info came from." So you spelt you're as your & wasn't as wasnt to fit it into the s p a c e a v a i l a b l e, y e a h I c a n s e e y o u r p o i n t.

Posted by: Graeme Henderson, Darling Downs

Friday, 26 September 2008

Muppet - What exactly are "prople"? You would think someone of your self confessed mighty intellect would get it right when you are having a go about grammar. I know you probably struggle on account of the fat fingers and r is next to e. Will let you of just this once on account of your massive contribution to the nation. Oh hang on you don't contribute anything to the nation - In that case get it right you IDIOT.

Posted by: Mark Sinclair, Maryland

 

Thursday, 25 September 2008

Sometimes susan you can be so cattie. just be nice for a change may make you feel good. so what i did the research instead of tim. i did something nice for you. i expected a thanks silly me. but i guess it wasnt seen as nice as the information i found was in line with tim's info and not yours. maybe you should read the age newspaper sometime. the do have a website too.

Posted by: Belinda Hummie, New lambton

Friday, 26 September 2008

Thank you Belinda, I appreciate you did the research,if you read my posts after that, I said, my point was it doesnt really matter who has more,they are ALL wealthy, and if your going to do an article on one and his wealth, then please admit they are all wealthy.. As for being catty, I cop heaps on here, and 99% of the time I let it go....read some of the REALLY catty comments made on this forum. As for The Age, I stopped reading it years ago when they forgot journalists should be unbiased.

Posted by: susan lawe, gippsland

Friday, 26 September 2008

yes they all are wealthy, my findings proved that. i just put the facts down. and what the age and canberra times said. i am not against you susan. that is the point i was trying to make.

Posted by: Belinda Hummie, New lambton

 

Friday, 26 September 2008

hes a stupid pot head! if he had his way all our kids would be on crack! he admitted to smoking marawana!

Posted by: David Scholz, Gippsland

 

Friday, 26 September 2008

After watching and listening to Malcolm Turnbull,s performance on the ABC's Q&A; last night I can only conclude that his opponents will have a very hard time staying credible.

Posted by: Dallas Beaufort, Brisbane

 

Friday, 26 September 2008

Tim good job , what a rort $175 a night to stay in his wife's house thats greedy very greedy.I wont feel guilt when i under declare my earnings in the future if people like Mr Turnbull are using my fifties to wipe their ass .

Posted by: slick 6, WA

 

Friday, 26 September 2008

I have just finished reading George Orwell's 'The Road to Wigan Pier' and even though some of it has gone over my head he described Socialism as being about 'justice and liberty' not 'Russia Worship' etc. Just thought I'd throw that one in as many people make comments here using the world socialist and it always seems to have very negative connotations attached to it and perhaps it just aint so (check out the last 2-3 chapters of this book). Maybe we could stop bandying that word around!

Posted by: Ms Pat, Sydney

Friday, 26 September 2008

both labour and liberal have virtually the same policies. both parties are lead by millionaires and dont have a socialist bone in their bodies. the history of both groups over the last 40 years is equally patchy. culminating in the mess we are in now.i really dont know how any sensible person can enthusiastically support either. they should all be dropped off a cliff.what are you all arguing about?

Posted by: trevor crook, wiley pk

Wednesday, 01 October 2008

That's because people like to use language games to marginalise the position of others. As Trevor has said, the fact is that there isn't a great deal of difference - both parties and peak groups from major social groups, particularly big business, constitute a rulling class that seeks to basically perpetuate its own position. Socialism never meant anything that happened in the USSR or North Korea - that was Marxist Communism and completely different to socialism. But little details matter not!

Posted by: Morgan Gibson, Strathpine, Brisbane

 

Saturday, 27 September 2008

Big Mal gets my vote everytime for being a successful "greedy" investor. Anyone who profits from the greed of all those small investors in HIH is so much a better person to lead our country to greatness. Our Mal wants a republic for Australia, wonder if dullwitted Tim has noticed this pertinant fact. Big Malcolm Turnbull is a true blue Aussie battler who started with little and ended up as a leader. Mr Prime minister K Rudd has decided to impose a Tax on condensate (light oil from natural gas)

Posted by: Flashy Y, perth

 

Saturday, 27 September 2008

At least with Turnbull as Opposition Leader we're seeing some open criticism of the current Government within the media. Just like with journalism it's important to have balance within the political system and that seemed absent for most of Rudd's first year as Prime Minister.

Posted by: Amy BG, Brisbane

 

Monday, 29 September 2008

here is an interesting read for all you liberal lovers or turnbull lovers. its not something that tim wrote, its from the smh. someone new for you to hate. everything to you seems to be fiction unless it shows a liberal in good light, which is getting harder to see, i think all the lights have blown. http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/trail-of-blood-leads-to-turnbull/2008/09/28/1222540244990.html?page=2

Posted by: Belinda Hummie, New lambton

 

Monday, 29 September 2008

I'm no fan of Malcolm Turnbull. Reminds me of former CEO of a company I used to work for - he ran that company into the ground and then went on to find further infamy and fortune in another spectacular corporate collapse that was all over the papers. I thought it was ASIC's job to keep an eye on these guys. If he was involved in the HIH scandal etc, who's to say he won't be tempted to do it again - these guys keep getting away with it.

Posted by: Ms Pat,

 
 

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