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November 19, 2008 10:07 PM PST

Wikipedia gears up for flood of video and photo files

by Rafe Needleman

Wikimedia CTO Brion Vibber

(Credit: Rafe Needleman / CNET)

What is the significance of Sun Microsystems' announcement Wednesday that Wikimedia is buying truckloads of Sun servers? It's that the Wikimedia team, which runs Wikipedia, Wikinews, Wikibooks, and other sites, is gearing up to change the nature of the reference services. Wikipedia, in particular, is going to get a lot more visual. Limits on the size of upload files will be increased to 100MB. Video--hosted by Wikimedia--will soon be part of the mix.

With the more aggressive support for media files will come, eventually, new ways to edit those media. Kaltura has been working with Wikimedia to create an online video editor that supports wikipedia concepts: users will be able to edit others' videos, and everyone will be able to see the edit history.

Wikimedia is also considering building an online photo editor into the service, so users will be able to do the same things with photos that they do with text--enhance, clarify, and revert the last user's edits. Failing that, Wikimedia CTO Brion Vibber told me Wednesday, Wikipedia users may soon get a way to view the revisions that people make offline to photos by flipping through previous versions of the images.

The one holdup I can see with Wikimedia's newish love of media files is its fetish for open-source technologies. Vibber told me the new video support is being designed first to run in Firefox 3.1, because this open-source browser has native support for the open-source Ogg Theora codec. I'm sure that will make for a good experience in Firefox, but philosophy aside, I'd like to see even support for all browsers, not just Firefox.

Currently, all of Wikipedia, including the photos and audio, fits in less than 5 terabytes of storage. The text alone is less 500 MB compressed. With the new servers and the new media editing services, Vibber expects Wikipedia to be using 10 TB to 15 TB by the end of 2009.

Rafe Needleman writes about start-ups, new technologies, and Web 2.0 products, as editor of CNET's Webware. E-mail Rafe.
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by paul.saulnier November 19, 2008 10:38 PM PST
Sounds very exciting, and it's good to see that Wikipedia still has plans to do totally new things. I do like how Rafe calls them out on supporting only Firefox 3.1, however. I'm curious as to why this is even necessary, since video support will likely be provided through Flash or some other plugin that should be easy to run on any browser.
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by Eric Draven November 19, 2008 11:17 PM PST
The article actually says, "Vibber told me the new video support is being designed first to run in Firefox 3.1". I agree it was the right thing to call them out, but WikiMedia didn't say they'll support Firefox ONLY, but with Firefox as the primary design point due to Ogg Theora native support.
by Mr. Dee November 20, 2008 5:30 AM PST
I just can't visualize Wikipedia making certain topics into videos. The sexual topics come to mind first. Will we see a couple having sex on the 'Intercourse' page and other more taboo topics that children can easily encounter?
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by 3rdalbum November 21, 2008 2:59 AM PST
@Mr Dee: Were you thinking of something like the school scene in Monty Python's The Meaning Of Life?

It does sound exciting. I'd like to see Wikipedia ONLY use Ogg Theora for video, as it might provide a reason for Microsoft and Apple to support Theora as a video standard. It would be trivially easy for them and wouldn't cost them anything in licensing fees.
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by David Gerard November 21, 2008 12:51 PM PST
This article could have done with more research or the right questions being asked at the time rather than as asides in the article after the fact.

Wikimedia only has Ogg Vorbis sound and Ogg Theora video because every other codec is patented up the wazoo. But it's presently #8 site on Alexa and #4 on ComScore, so basically it's up to Apple, Nokia etc. to catch up with sites their users want to use.

Presently, *anyone* can play the Ogg files - the site has a Java applet which plays them in any browser supporting Java, which is all of them. Java's open source itself, by the way. It's just that Firefox 3.1 - and Opera - will play them natively in the browser itself.
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by faboumen November 23, 2008 6:11 AM PST
While I agree that addition of more photos is good, video is not. The third world is still having a terrible time coming up to speed with the internet, and video will kill it. Even if you have fast internet, wikipedia's servers are so slow now, they are about to get a whole lot slower. All this new hardware is going to require more cyberbegging, for what videos that 3/4 of the world can't access?
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