UFC 104 fighter bonuses: Struve, Barry and Hardonk earn $60k awards; Johnson snubbed

LOS ANGELES – Preliminary-card fighters swept the "fight night" bonuses at Saturday's "UFC 104: Machida vs. Shogun." Stefan Struve took home "Submission of the Night" honors; Patrick Barry and Antoni Hardonk won "Fight of the Night." Barry took home a double award, also winning "Knockout of the Night."

Each competitor earned a $60,000 bonus check per award with the UFC's traditional post-show bonus program, with Barry taking home a total of $120,000 in bonus pay.

Announcing the awards, Dana White also mentioned that Anthony "Rumble" Johnson "should have won 'Knockout of the Night,'" but that the fighter wasn't eligible due to failing to make weight for his bout.

UFC 104 took place Saturday night at Staples Center in Los Angeles. Portions of the card aired on both Spike TV and pay-per-view.

MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) was on scene for the event and the night's post-fight press conference, where the awards were announced.

Barry's double awards resulted from an energetic fight finished via second-round TKO, which the 29-year-old secured in the second round of a preliminary card bout that aired on Spike TV. The crowd-pleasing matchup ultimately ended when Barry found his range and landed multiple one-two combinations, eventually knocking Hardonk to the floor with a jab and finishing with a quick dose of ground and pound.

Stuve, meanwhile, picked up the Submission of the Night bonus for his preliminary-card victory over UFC newcomer Chase Gormley. After opening the fight utilizing his kickboxing skills, Struve deftly worked in a triangle choke from top position and rolled to his back to finish the hold. Gormley held on briefly, but Struve forced the tap with 56 seconds remaining in the first frame to win the award.

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mmaelite177 on Oct 25, 2009 at 1:52 am ET
I like Rumble, and think he is a dynamic striker...but I am glad he isn't getting rewarded for a fight that he wasn't able to make weight for. 
 

JBHoTep on Oct 25, 2009 at 1:54 am ET
Agreed on all accounts. By the same token, Yoshida didn't have to accept the fight, but he did.
 

ManUpWear on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:46 am ET
I bet Yoshida would have wanted Rumble to get the KO of the night, wouldn't he make 10% of that?
 

Trick on Oct 25, 2009 at 11:31 am ET
lol...yep.

That was a bad match up by Joe Silva. 

Thanks UFC for showing Okami vs Sonnen on PPV.  I am finally glad I won't be coming to Okamis defense anymore.
He got owned.  Yes he deserves the undercard from now on until he deliverse action pack fights.

 

Jimbo-Slice on Oct 25, 2009 at 11:48 am ET
When I saw the Sonnan/ Okami fight come I was glad to see it so all the people that were crying on here about it could see it.  Just because it's on a prelim doesn't mean you won't see the fight later.
 

mrtommy74 on Oct 25, 2009 at 11:51 am ET
I was an Okami defender, but dang, I was really impressed w/ Sonnen.  I think he'll get some more big fights now.
 

Jimbo-Slice on Oct 25, 2009 at 11:58 am ET
Sonnan is no joke.  Okami has not really impressed me.  IMO
 

Trick on Oct 25, 2009 at 12:48 pm ET
Sonnen didn't really impress me.  Against top tier guys..i say he would have gotten owned.  Like Nate, Vitor, or Silva.
But agianst Okami...Okami made him look good.  Maybe a little ring rust for Okami?   Still he got owned.  Wonder why Okami didn't just take Sonnen down to the mat?  I know Sonnen is a wrestler but c'mon he's has no BJJ to sub you.
 

Trick on Oct 25, 2009 at 12:48 pm ET
Sonnen didn't really impress me.  Against top tier guys..i say he would have gotten owned.  Like Nate, Vitor, or Silva.
But agianst Okami...Okami made him look good.  Maybe a little ring rust for Okami?   Still he got owned.  Wonder why Okami didn't just take Sonnen down to the mat?  I know Sonnen is a wrestler but c'mon he's has no BJJ to sub you.
 

bandido on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:57 am ET
RUA was robbed, feel bad for him. He was destined to become th UFC champ. Imagine if this happened to you............. pretty sh**ty if you ask me.
 

Musa622 on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:27 pm ET
He most certainly was robbed. That was way worse than the Bisping decision. I thought he won every round, except the third. And that was a really close round, too.
 

erogers72 on Oct 25, 2009 at 5:07 pm ET
There is no such thing as a Robbery in a fight that was that close....anyone who says otherwise is just a fan boy who cant get over the fact that the nuts he suckles lost this fight.  Everyone knows you have to BEAT the champ to take his/her belt.  No argument can be made to support that happening.  I personally think that Shogun won the fight, and was a little disappointed that he wasn't given the decision, but ROBBED?......not even close to robbed.  He just lost and we have to get over it.  If he wants the belt he should actually TRY and FINISH Lyoto in their rematch, otherwise, i see the same thing happening, and it wont be a robbery the next time either. 
 

slappy411 on Oct 26, 2009 at 12:18 pm ET
Whats your explaination on the Forrest Rampage fight? 
 

erogers72 on Oct 26, 2009 at 1:53 pm ET
I'm not really sure what Rampage/Forrest has to do with this fight, but my explanation is that the judges are the ones who get to decide who wins and loses, and they decided that Forrest won that fight.  the point i was trying to make in the previous post was that there's no such thing as a robbery in a fight that was as close as Machida/Shogun was.  i think the same applies in the case of UFC 86.  go back and do some searching of the articles immediately after that fight.  they read pretty much the same as the ones that have followed this UFC.  Everyone has their own opinion about what did or should happen, but none of us are Judges so it doesnt really matter what any of us think.  I just get sick of people using terms like ROBBED!!!!!!!!!!! or talking about how they scored the fight.  and lets not forget that there's hardly a legit media outlet that covers this sport, so the vast majority of our info comes from blogs and keyboard warriors who never seem to run out of stupid things to say about fights or the direction of the sport.  Judging in this sport sucks because they use the boxing system which made sense initially because the UFC wanted the sport regulated so they could expand.  Everyone knows that in boxing, you must beat the champ to become the champ.  that's the way it's always been.  since MMA has taken the boxing scoring system, how can anyone expect anything different than the boxing style of judging?  the sport has increased so much in its complexity that a new system is required.  one that takes into account all of the unique aspects of the awesomeness that is MMA.  that task may be impossible, but some kind of effort needs to be made to modify the existing system, otherwise, we'll just keep repeating this cycle of ridiculousness where everyone who watched the fight runs to their favorite blog to post their scorecard and quote fightmetric's etc.  i guess it serves to make them feel better, but it accomplishes nothing in real terms.  my advice, become a judge or be prepared to accept decisions that you dont agree with.

P.S. there is one alternative to becoming a judge or accepting questionable decisions.....ACTUALLY ENGAGE ENOUGH TO FINISH THE FIGHT
 

fonduktoe on Oct 25, 2009 at 1:54 am ET
did machida win the bullsh*t bonus?  Oh, apparently there isn't a bonus for winning a fight by losing a fight.  they should have a bonus for that.
 

1stab on Oct 25, 2009 at 1:57 am ET
a fine point sir. since he got robbed once, they must have just figured f**k it, rob him twice.
 

ManUpWear on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:49 am ET
Dana was more impressed with Shogun than Machida. I'm sure he will be rewarded somehow, maybe now, maybe the next fight.

I was already screaming Shogun UFC champ until I heard the BS call. I like Shogun as champion more than I like Machida as champion.
 

DeadWreckoning on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:07 am ET
this^^^
 

Musa622 on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:29 pm ET
+1. Obviously, it's not Machida's fault the judges are idiots. But jesus! Shogun obviously won that fight!
 

martintp3 on Oct 25, 2009 at 1:55 am ET
damn 6lbs cause u 60k damn  that gotta hurt him...bet he makes weight nxt time lol
 

rocklobster on Oct 25, 2009 at 1:56 am ET
+ 20% of his purse!
 

rocklobster on Oct 25, 2009 at 1:56 am ET
Machida should have got KO of the night!
 

1stab on Oct 25, 2009 at 1:57 am ET
uh, what ?
 

ManUpWear on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:50 am ET
I think he said Machida should have got KO of the night
 

irunthis on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:04 am ET
Those judges should get judge of the night awards.

What kind of f**kin garbage was that.
 

HHT on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:11 am ET
$10,000 a lb for Johnson + 20% of his purse.

That was an expensive injury.
 

funtzfighter8 on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:12 am ET
I think the judges cost Machida and Shogun 60 thou each.

5 Round strategic title fight....if it was scored right....it should have been fight of the night.

but how can you award that fight an award with that decision?
 

seeg on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:19 am ET
If Johnson can prove he can stay closer to WW weight and prove he can come in at 170 (not 171+) I would LOVE to see him fight GSP.  I know he hasn't earned that fight yet but it would be an exciting fight.
 

crazylondon on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:22 am ET
On topic,
 
I would like to see Alves and Johnson go at it.  They are probably the best two striker in the division when it comes to power and there's a good chance they might stand there and exchange.  Also they may be the two biggest guys in the division would make it even more fair as both have missed making weight "due to injury".

I think it would be a very entertaining fight.
 

seeg on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:41 am ET
Great observation about Alves.  I think if Johnson could get another fight or two maybe he could be ready for GSP by the end of 2010.  Personally, I think he would roll through Koscheck right now! 
 

mrtommy74 on Oct 25, 2009 at 11:52 am ET
Really?  Beat Kos?  no way
 

BigWolve on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:33 am ET
CLOSER to WW?

He needs to stay the f**k at weight to stay at WW.

The people I watched this fight with (non or casual fans) couldn't belive what a farce this fight was regarding the weight diffeerence and well, I couldn't defend it either as it was a farce.

I want to see him fight someone his own size rather than beat up on little guys.
 

tekrebel on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:37 am ET
didnt a little guy beat him up in rich clementi.. whos a 155er?
 

seeg on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:48 am ET
Wow!  Didn't know that!  Looked it up though and Johnson even came in at 177.5 at that fight!  Hmmm.... maybe he needs to go ahead and move up but his size advantage wouldn't be so great against a Marquardt would it?
 

erogers72 on Oct 25, 2009 at 5:21 pm ET
the Johnson v Clementi  fight was a late replacement for Wilson Gouveia v Jason Lambert.  they took the fight on 8 days notice, as evidenced by clementi fighting at 177(which was the catchweight for this fight).  considering that johnson walks around well above 200lbs, i think him making 177.5 in 8 days is pretty remarkable, and shows that when he's healthy, he can cut serious weight very quickly.  spend a little time learning about the fighters you make comments on and you might come away with a better understanding of how the sport works. 
 

TeamBeekerMMA on Oct 25, 2009 at 11:44 am ET
Rich Clementi shows no love
 

seeg on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:43 am ET
I think (hope) he learned his lesson.  He seemed truly apologetic (although missing weight by that much is pretty much inexcusable) and he did mention his injury (although that's not a reason to eat twinkies and pizza all the time).
 

girdaj on Oct 25, 2009 at 5:40 am ET
Well, if Johnson was fightin someone at 185, he would be fighting a smaller opponent...

If he can make it that night, thats all that counts....

people dont question GSP or Gray Maynard because of their discipline and work ETHIC...

They are respectively larger than anyone else in their weight classes...
 

Rizen914 on Oct 25, 2009 at 11:26 am ET
 GSP walks around at about 185 and was much smaller than Alves.....
 Johnson is way to big for ww..
 

mrtommy74 on Oct 25, 2009 at 11:54 am ET
Ummm, the judges made THE FIGHT less exciting?  How is that possible.  We did not know their scores until after the fight...how did their scores influence whether the fight was good or not?
 

crazylondon on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:18 am ET
This is a little off topic, but this is the most recent story so I figured I would get an answer quickest:

If I made a straight bet on machida to win, I should win should I not?  The fight going to a decision should not affect the outcome of my bet should it?
 

taters on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:21 am ET
correct
 

BigWolve on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:21 am ET
Anthony Johnson shouldnt have been awarded anything except "cheater of the night".

How about weigh-ins the morning of the fight? This kind of unfairness is a slap in the face of sportsmanship and will cripple the sport.
 

seeg on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:45 am ET
I like your idea of same day weigh-ins.  That would change what division about half the fighters currently fight at!
 

girdaj on Oct 25, 2009 at 5:42 am ET
Its obviously not healthy for fighters...

They will pass out during their fights...

They will cut regardless...

GSP will be crying on the treadmill trying to make 170 so that he doesnt have to fight Anderson...

Bigwolve...You obviously never competed at anything, did you ?
 

big_daddy_patty on Oct 25, 2009 at 9:24 am ET
I don't think GSP is as big as you are thinking he is. During his last fight, I believe that Rogan said he walks around at 185 these days, which is not that big I don't think for a 170 lb fighter. As for him being the biggest in the class, definitely not. Thiago Alves walks around 190 - 200 lbs apparently, and I would think there are others who are larger than 185 in WW (besides Alves & Johnson of course).
 

Jimbo-Slice on Oct 25, 2009 at 11:57 am ET
GSP stated after his fight with Alves that he does walk around at 180-185.
 

TappinOnHeavensDoor on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:26 am ET
If someone has the names of the judges for the Machida-Rua fight, can you please post them here?  Thanks.
 

MikeStyll on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:30 am ET
Well one of them was Cecil Peoples and that's why the judging was retarded...
 

TappinOnHeavensDoor on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:33 am ET
Yeah, that makes sense for one of them - there's usually one retard in every group - but all 3?  Whatever he has must be contagious.
 

tekrebel on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:36 am ET
im sure judging is influential.. I can imaging each of them whispering to each other "what did you score it as?" and cecil peoples saying.. "uh i dunno i like machida so im gonna put numbers to make him win"
 

RTBuster on Oct 25, 2009 at 3:30 am ET
I will give you the judges and their scores...

Cecil Peoples gave R 1-3 to Machida, 4 & 5 Shogun. Same for Marcos Rosales. 'Doc' Hamilton had R1 & 5 Shogun, 2-4 Machida.

As far as judges influencing one another, judges sit in three different places around the cage, they do not sit at the same table. In addition, someone from the commission picks up their score card for each round before the next round starts. This helps to make sure they are judging each round individually and not looking back at their notes from previous rounds.
 

TappinOnHeavensDoor on Oct 25, 2009 at 3:37 am ET
Gracias.
 

erogers72 on Oct 25, 2009 at 5:24 pm ET
It's called Google.....give it a try
 

crazylondon on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:27 am ET
They should change their protocol.  If a fighter misses weight then his opponent should be paid either his wage, or the winning bonus.  The fact that lots of fighters have to take the fight just to make money against an opponent who cant make weight shouldn't be their problem, and they shouldn't more or less be forced into having to take the fight for financial reasons.

PS I should note that I did no investigating, and do not know what the current protocol is for this situation other than the guy losing 20% of his purse, but if already has something stipulated along this lines I apologize in advance.
 

edosama1983 on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:29 am ET
yeah, I think Yoshida should get AJ's winning bonus, it's totally BS
 

girdaj on Oct 25, 2009 at 5:48 am ET
Well, A J was going to win by KO either way...

KoS KOED Zenko the same way...

AJ vs KOS...

good matchup...

Dont think AJ deserves someone on KOS level yet, but what the hell...
 

AgoniesCreep on Oct 25, 2009 at 9:50 am ET
A.J. would destroy Koscheck, if he can make weight.
 

seeg on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:51 am ET
I think it's something that has to be negotiated between camps.  With that said, if you're only fighting 2 or 3 times a year it's kind of hard to turn down the fight (and the money) even if the guy outweighs you by 20 lbs.  I'm sure Johnson has already had a pretty stern talking to from Dana and hopefully he'll get the message!
 

paulpnut on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:30 am ET
machida forever 
 

paulpnut on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:30 am ET
16-0 baby yeeeaaaahhhhhh!!!!
 

MeatPunch on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:38 am ET
Wow.. this UFC had "Strikefarce" type of antics all over it...  From the early stoppage from Mazzagotti to the pathetic judging... Dana White needs to address this garbage QUICK.  People will start saying UFC fights are fixed... this is a sad day in the MMA world.
 

seeg on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:54 am ET
You are right....Terrible stoppage from Mazzagati (again).  I think he's more nervous than the fighters when he steps into the cage. 

And although Cain definitely was dominating the fight, Rothwell was in the process of standing up..... bad, bad call, imo.
 

girdaj on Oct 25, 2009 at 5:46 am ET
It was definitely a stoppage at the WRONG time...

He could have stopped the fight earlier in the match...

Even though Big Ben is tough...and they werent threatening POWERFUL punches, after all, they were coming from Velasquez!

The point is, BAD POSTURE by Ben...

Even though his one arm was free, he was using it to prop himself up...which cost him the EARLY stoppage...

He made NO attempt to block, Mazagatti made the CORRECT Call!!!

even though i dont care for the stache...
 

Jimbo-Slice on Oct 25, 2009 at 12:04 pm ET
Mazzagati warned "Fat boy Roy" before the 2nd round that he needs to watch the amount of strikes.  Where are all the Cain haters now?  Rothwell got saved from another take down.  On a side note, Rothwell will be playing two face in the next Batman movie.  The right side was messed up.
 

Appalachian on Oct 25, 2009 at 3:14 am ET
The UFC has nothing to do with the refs or the judges, its all controlled by the state athletic commison for the state the event is held in, or in other words, the government.
 

BigWolve on Oct 25, 2009 at 2:49 am ET
MORNING WEIGH-INS

This is a farce.

It will be better for the sport and level the playing field.
 

EdoKaz818 on Oct 25, 2009 at 3:12 am ET
Paid to go watch it live. Loved BARRY TKFO of Hardonk. Personally Barry is probably one of top 5 fav fighters

Got to watch pathetic Rumble beat a man he outweighs by 30+ pounds

Got to watch Rua win. YES WIN!!!!!!.  I dont believe he lost it was all BS!
 

big_daddy_patty on Oct 25, 2009 at 9:31 am ET
So if AJ had made weight, you think he would have been 30lbs lighter? I don't know Yoshida's body type, but if he's fighting at WW, I would be inclined to think that he too is cutting weight also, or he'd be @ LW.

The only amount of weight difference people can complain about in this fight, is the 5-6 lbs that AJ was over by.
 

Frank on Oct 25, 2009 at 3:16 am ET
Johnson was absolutely impressive. You know, it says something when all of the 'bonus' fighters were on the undercard - what's up with _that_ matchmaker?
 

BigWolve on Oct 25, 2009 at 3:24 am ET
impressive if you like seeing guys pound out other guys 30plus pounds lighter

it was pathetic. I was embarassed for AJ, a fighter I truly have been impressed with until tonight
 

RedRing on Oct 25, 2009 at 3:56 am ET
You must be REALLY terrible at math.


So now because Rumble missed weight by 5 pounds... he somehow has a 30 pound advantage?

Where did your math come in because none of that makes sense.


Rumble is just as big as he always was + 3 pounds or so.... it really didn't make that much of a difference (and I say 3 pounds because by the time the fight starts he was probably roughly the same weight he usually is for a fight.
 

mrtommy74 on Oct 25, 2009 at 11:59 am ET
are you serious?  Going into camp, Johnson weighed 220.  Cut to 176, probably re-hydrated to 190-200.  You think Yoshida weighs that much?  Really?  You saw the 2 fighters in front of one another and you think there's a 3 pound difference in weight?  I hope this is sarcasm
 

RedRing on Oct 25, 2009 at 3:08 pm ET
Yoshida is a small welterweight, Rumble would have had that size advantage...  Minus 3-5 pounds even if he made weight!

A 5-pound weight advantage doesn't turn into a 30 pound one.  Rumble is a Big Heavyweight and Yoshida is a small one, and that's that.
 

IDONTBLUFF28 on Oct 25, 2009 at 3:48 am ET
You guys sure that was "Rumble"?  I'm almost positive it was Bob Sapp fighting Shinya Aoki.
 

sirgerbil on Oct 25, 2009 at 8:57 am ET
would have been alot more fair.
 

Percius on Oct 25, 2009 at 3:17 am ET
IMO the UFC needs to come up with an entirely new scoring method and finally get rid of this sh*tty boxing based system, they should also sit down and have a long talk with the athletic commision about the quality of referee's that they are allowing inside that cage, I am tired of seeing extremely poor ref'ing ruining a good night of fights that I am looking forward to. Its almost like the atheletic commision is keeping these sh*tty refs around just to throw speed bumps at MMA so they can get more viewers back to boxing.
I am sure there are going to be a lot of people pissed at what im saying but its how I feel.
I love MMA and im tired of seeing these morons ruining it.
 

fonduktoe on Oct 25, 2009 at 3:24 am ET
i give the paper champion award to machida
 

Dutchmeister on Oct 25, 2009 at 4:22 am ET
I was happy to see Pat Barry bounce back with a win against a very tough Antoni Hardonk.  Kudos to "HD" for picking up TWO bonuses (and an extra $120,000 in cheese - cha-CHING!) last night in a good fight.  I feel kinda bad for Anthony Johnson, as I knew he was a lock for "KO of the Night." Although I understand the need to ding him for failing to make weight, I'm not gonna be too hard on the kid, as he explained after his fight that he wasn't able to make weight because he hurt his knee preparing to fight Matt Brown (and I really, really hope those two do end up fighting - talk about a slugfest in the making!).  That said, "Rumble" was still devastating last night.  He'll learn from this and come back even better, which is kind of scary given how good he currently is.
 

grim_reaper on Oct 25, 2009 at 11:04 am ET
I really like the fact the UFC has no issues what so ever with awarding bonuses to the under card.
 

fonduktoe on Oct 25, 2009 at 4:50 am ET
yada yada
the only topic that means anything is machida's status as a fake champ
 

wayneraltman on Oct 25, 2009 at 5:24 am ET
Since it is very well known that the talent pool for referees is SLIM pickings this should surprise no one at all about the Mazzagati deal tonight. Steve saw what I saw however, and "fatboy" was getting a grade A buttwhoopin. It saved him further damage, and for that he should be grateful. I was not impressed by Cain's win because Ben should never have been in there in the first place. As for Rua and Machida, I had it scored for Rua as well but it hardly was the worst decision ever (even in UFC). Judges feel you have to damn near stop the fight if you want the belt, and I am glad about that. The 30 lbs that Johnson had was considering the weight gain he had after the weigh ins. He looked HUGE compared to Yoshida, but the outcome would have been the same I think.  That is NOT to excuse the failure to make weight though. He needs to get that crap under control. You know where you are in the weeks before a fight dude, get your stuff together. I loved that Chael Sonnen won tonight he looked great, and so did Tibau..    
 

girdaj on Oct 25, 2009 at 5:50 am ET
Tibau is not very good, especially considering that he has so much weight on everyone...

He did absolutely nothing after the takedowns...

Not even controlling NEER after the takedowns...
 

grim_reaper on Oct 25, 2009 at 11:02 am ET
I have to agree. Tibau would have been finished by anyone with any decent striking as he was just gassed out.  Neer just did not have the striking capability to finish him and Tibau essentially just backpeddled for half the fight to avoid taking any strikes.  A poor win at best.
 

TriangleChoke81 on Oct 25, 2009 at 5:31 am ET
Next time use the Bowflex and get in shape before the fight, FATTIE! No excuses for Rumble.
 

newERA on Oct 25, 2009 at 10:11 am ET
Didn't Thiago Alves get the "KO of the night" bonus when he beat Matt Hughes even though he missed weight by about as much?
 

Rumble on Oct 25, 2009 at 11:17 am ET
You are right, and that was on a night Wiman ktfo Tavares along with Ko of Lambert by Cane.
 

cj00 on Oct 25, 2009 at 11:55 am ET
I was so happy, swinging arms in the air with biggest smile on my face when that last second of round 5 came. i was just texting my buddy to tell him i won the $50 ....... then ...

that was one of THE WORST decisions i have EVER seen in my life ... im gonna watch the fight again today without commentary to see if maybe it wasnt just the Rogan Goldberg talk that put the thoughts in my head, but come on .... that was PURE BS!!! whether he admits it or not .... machida knows he lost that fight bad, look at the guys legs and body!!! look at his reactions and his corners reactions between each round!!

machida ear???? when??

sorry for the guys that love him, but he was supposed to DOMINATE shogun.... it didnt happen by any means

machida says he wants to or would fight brock in 5 or so fights .. ahhahahahahaha ..... he is jokin right??
 

Jimbo-Slice on Oct 25, 2009 at 12:13 pm ET
Machida may have lost by popular vote but you act like Rua destroyed him.  Rua may have done more damage and landed more strikes but when was Machida in trouble?  I'm not trying to take anything away from Rua but neither one of them looked great.
 

nntallah on Oct 25, 2009 at 12:43 pm ET
Welcome to the Machida era... ha! ha! ha! .....very funny . The karate kid got beat
 

syadnom on Oct 25, 2009 at 12:07 pm ET
Fight of the night to me was clearly Machida vs Rua.  The sports bar I went to agreed.  The energy level skyrocketed during that fight and everyone had that nervous anticipation. $0$0 $0 $0Johnson not making weight is pretty dumb on his part.  When you are a UFC level fighter you better be experienced and skilled enough to make weight for a fight.  I think the 20% penalty is to little.  I also dont think the matchup was very good.  Johnson is a guy that isnt terribly skilled at the moment but is seriously athletic.  Hopefully he can improve his skills because he will have to fight someone that can weather an early storm by a tough kid like this and then Johnson may be in trouble.$0
 

joe_southpaw on Oct 25, 2009 at 12:14 pm ET
Johnson didn't have enough time in training camp to drop the weight.  UFC fined him, that's his punishment. I don't see why Dan Hardy is a top contender and not Johnson, let's put Johnson up against Kos. Winner goes into top contender status for GSP. Johnson is the ww who has a chance of beating GSP by matching him in strength to defend the takedowns. I also think his striking is close to GSP, not as good but close.

Johnson will be a future UFC champion.
 

erogers72 on Oct 25, 2009 at 5:32 pm ET
Does anyone really want to see KOS get DOMINATED by GSP again? 
 

dedlift on Oct 25, 2009 at 12:39 pm ET
Rua's corner blew it. And Machinda was crippled the last two rounds and could not come back.

You don't tell your fighter repeatedley that he's winning...even though he was...Shogun faught too cautiously in the last two rounds.

Machida had no legs in rounds four and five...and his kicks set up his strikes. Rua's kicks were the equalizer, not the Dragons. Machida could not counter the last two rounds and win.

Rematch...Lyota comes out more agressive without waiting to counter and wins again, only legit next time.
 

nntallah on Oct 25, 2009 at 12:45 pm ET
No need .Shogun already won
 

Silent1900 on Oct 25, 2009 at 5:08 pm ET

Oh yeah?  Tell that to his bank account and the belt-shaped empty spot on his mantle.
 

Uncontested on Oct 25, 2009 at 11:14 pm ET
boring title fight was boring. the only excitment came when machida wailed on rua for a little bit..  could care less who has the title since the fight was so boring (like most of the main card minus johnsons KO)
 

Pedrag on Oct 26, 2009 at 6:33 am ET
Wtf?  Johnsons KO was the most by far the most boring thing in UFC 104.
That loser is a lightheavyweight but he fought a small welterweight dude, thats so unfair... 
Everyone knew what would happen in that match, utterly boooooooooring
Shame on UFC that they even made this match.
 

erogers72 on Oct 26, 2009 at 2:41 pm ET
Pedrag....dude you need to take a few minutes and research weight cutting.  Most UFC fighters cut weight for their fights.  some cut way more than others, but most cut weight.  Yoshida knew what he was getting into when he took that fight initially, and he definitely knew what he was in for when he accepted the fight after AJ blew the weigh in. 
 

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