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Obama Kenyan Born June 27 2004 article in Kenya Sunday Standard newspaper, Internet scrubbing, AP article, Way back machine, Internet archives, Obama born in Kenya, Obama not natural born citizen

October 16, 2009 · 198 Comments

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From early in 2008 to the present, those following the Obama eligibility scandals were aware of numerous reports of Obama being born in Kenya and repeated internet scrubbing.

I received the following email from Charles Kerchner at 2:17 AM ET this morning, October 16, 2009. The download that I did this morning apparently did not function properly and YouTube took longer than  normal to process the upload to them. Was some force working against me. I do not know.

“Since you are all covering this newly released/discovered webpage for the June 27, 2004 article in your news sites and blogs, and that the Obots are immediately labeling it a fake, I thought I’d share with you a video recorded by a volunteer research on July 9th, 2009 showing the documentation of the existence of the article’s page being found on the net early this year, but contents scrubbed … but then in early July the volunteer researcher found two copies in TWO (2) Way Back Time Machine process archives servers at two locations in the world.  The second system has not been revealed as of this time before, as of yet that I know of, while the first one was found and revealed by someone yesterday. This video evidence we had been saving is hereby being shown to you for news release via an attached video piece done by the researcher that shows that the June 27th, 2004 article found is not fake and existed on the net for quite some time and copies of the article were inventoried and were still in the Way Back Time Machine at two separate sites in the world on 9 July 2009.  We had not released this piece of evidence until now as we were awaiting getting to the discovery phase of our lawsuit against Obama & Congress, et al, waiting to get past the motion to dismiss made by the defendants and for which the Judge in our case is still not making a decision although the calendar scheduled decision date on that motion was set at August 3rd, 2009 by the court. But at this time we feel we should release this video for all to see.

See attached video proof from the evidence research conducted early this summer by a volunteer researcher for the Kerchner v Obama & Congress lawsuit that proves that the Obama was Kenyan Born article found was as published in the Sunday Standard newspaper in Kenya on June 27th, 2004. The article is real and was inventoried and archived by the Way Back Time Machine systems in 2004 on two separate world servers in the Way Back Time Machine process. See the video attached.

Sincerely,

Charles F. Kerchner, Jr.
CDR USNR (Ret)
Lead Plaintiff
Kerchner v Obama & Congress
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/
http://www.protectourliberty.org/

The Post & Email has been doing a great job of covering Obama and posted an article revealing other news stories about Obama being born in Kenya.

“WIDESPREAD KNOWLEGE OF DIFFERENT BIRTH STORY”
“Even as the Hawaiian Advertiser scrubs their report of January 8, 2006, in which they identified Barack Hussein Obama as born overseas, 2 more African Newsites have come to light which report the former U.S. Senator as “Kenyan-born”.  The present report is a follow up to The Post & Email’s previous reports of

Oct. 14, 2009 — AP declares Obama “Kenyan-Born”!

Oct. 15, 2009 — Google’s archive shows Obama’s birth story has changed

To forestall any attempt at Internet revisionism, The Post & Email has cached and image captured the pages of each Nigerian paper, featured in this report.

The Nigerian Observer proclaims Obama “Kenyan-born” on Nov. 4, 2008″

 

“The Newspage Weekly of Nigeria proclaims Obama “Kenyan-born”
In a piece written after the national conventions of each party had chosen their candidates, that it, at about the  beginning of October, 2008: the Newspage Weekly published this article:”

Read more:

http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/2-more-african-news-agencies-declare-obama-kenyan-born/

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198 responses so far ↓

  • Gianni // October 16, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    Great slueth work. It takes a lot of effort to retrieve so many files and stories that are systematically being scrubbed by Obama and company. But the truth will ultimately prevail. Let’s hope it is sooner rather than later. Obama and his minions have already done grave damage to this country.

  • goodtimepolitics // October 16, 2009 at 5:30 pm

    There is so many strange things going on since Obama became president which to me say “where there is smoke there is fire”

    Check this out, yet another strange arrest!
    http://goodtimepolitics.com/2009/10/16/raj-rajaratnam-billionaire-among-6-nabbed-in-inside-trading-case/

  • jbjd // October 16, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    smrstrauss,

    I agree, this latest posting means absolutely nothing in relation to establishing where BO was born. Now, do yourself a favor.

    Read any one of the complaints of election fraud to state A’sG – TX, HI, GA, VA, and SC – on my blog and tell me, what evidence did NP use to ascertain BO is a NBC, before certifying he was, to state election officials so they would print his name on the general election ballot. (Also, use the links in those complaints to check out the supporting documentation for that complaint.)
    http://jbjd.wordpress.com

  • twe // October 16, 2009 at 6:27 pm

    Reposting this link that came from previous (it looks like the same sort of stuff):

    http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm

  • JJ // October 16, 2009 at 6:29 pm

    Another account…

    yes, it doesn’t prove squat, but it provides the element of doubt that this man is here in our best interest.
    ‘Nuff for me.

    http://www.africa-ata.org/ug_newsletter.htm
    More Hot News by Prof. Wolfgang Thomeolunteers

    SECURITY CONCERNS FOR TOURISM AS SENATOR OBAMA JETS INTO KENYA
    As Kenyan born US Senator Barack Obama jets into Kenya today as part of his African tour, concerns have once again been raised on the security preparations for other visitors and residents. While Senator Obama will of course be accorded security from the presidential protection details, just a few days ago the Russian Ambassador was hurt when his car was stopped outside Nairobi and he was robbed of valuables. Reports have also emerged of a top of the range luxury tented safari camp in the Masai Mara having been raided and British and American tourists robbed of their belongings but reportedly not hurt. The robbers made off across the border with Tanzania, reminding the tourism sector that security is an ongoing issue and complacency has no place when it comes to such crucial matters.

  • carmen // October 16, 2009 at 6:42 pm

    Hello all, I am about to OD on all the truths I am able to catch up on here. This is the most happening site that I’ve ever seen. Thanks CW and all the bloggers WOW! This is good stuff! God bless

  • Jack // October 16, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    And of course there is this much newer news account (AP, Ghana) citing Obama as Kenyan-born:

    http://www.modernghana.com/news2/189461/1/americans-decide-today-go-obama.html

  • twe // October 16, 2009 at 6:45 pm

    OT–now Gardasil for boys:

    http://www.blacklistednews.com/news-5978-0-6-6–.html

  • carmen // October 16, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    jbjd: I do not support anyone who does not honor God. Iwish you the best

  • Jack // October 16, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    and see this account:

    http://www.oilforimmigration.org/

  • twe // October 16, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    Humor:

    http://townhall.com/cartoons/

  • twe // October 16, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    Look at what the arrow is pointing to for this mask:

    http://www.sondrak.com/index.php/weblog/todaze_lympian_quote_o_the_ding_dong_day_halloween_economy/

  • Jack // October 16, 2009 at 6:54 pm

    jbjd:–

    It proves that there’s been on-going manipulation and cover-up of evidence on the internet and manipulation and cover-up of documentation at the same time the Government (via Dept. of Justice attorneys), no less, on behalf of Obama, is seeking stays of discovery and delays and dismissals (as in Keyes v. Obama in USDC, CA).

    It shows that Team Obama and the Government are using these delays to secrete evidence.

    Moreover, since Team Obama cites those Honolulu newspaper accounts of baby O’s birth, these newspaper accounts can be cited as well.

  • Jacqlyn Smith // October 16, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    You gotta love Charles K. On Fox News…..in answer to the Congress going to a 3 day work week….he said it would be much better if they went to a 1 hour work week….they would do a lot less damage to the country!!! YEAH….I agree and pay them accordingly ……. minimum wage for their one hour of work!! LOL:) :) :)

  • RichardL // October 16, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    Somewhat OT, but most important:

    Dr. Taitz has filed another brief this afternoon requesting “Judicial Notice”…..

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/

    RichardL

  • citizenwells // October 16, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    To jbjd, et al.

    I was just reviewing the comments from yesterday and had just written this.

    God is a word we humans use, inadequately to refer to the creator of the universe. We all have a different perception of this entity. Part of this comprehension of our place in the universe is understanding that we are not God and consequently we need a moral compass to guide our actions and interactions with other humans, life forms and the universe itself. So I am referring to a moral compass that is larger than our egos and personal desires. Without it we are savages.

    PS-Whether you believe as I or most people do, you are still welcome on this blog.

  • Kandis // October 16, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    I’m not sure if this quote has surfaced or not from this paragraph or “record.”

    Kenyan National Assembly -Nov. 5, 2008
    p. 3287- 2nd paragraph – said by Ms. Odhiambo (Member of Kenya Parlament)

    Quote: “One of the things that affected it (globalisation) is the migration that has seen a lot of people migrating from African countries to the West, and Barrack Obama is a product of that reality.”

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/9606845/Kenyan-National-Assembly-Wednesday-5th-November-2008-51108A

    Bill Richardson calls O an immigrant
    Now Ms. Odiambo says O is a “product” of migration to the West.

  • sandy // October 16, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    For almost a full year now I have rushed to my computer every morning hoping and praying for news that the election of this imposter would finally end with him in the shackles he deserves.

    I am tired. We all are tired. We have taken our daily spits in the face for long enough. How much more reasonable doubt needs to be produced for someone of sanity to halt this madness?

    Yes….the wheels of justice turn slowly, but never before has such a great injustice forced itself onto this country. Time to grease the wheels folks.

    I don’t know about you all, but at the year mark my patience will be about at the full line

  • Enough! // October 16, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    carmen & CW:

    Mega ditto’s. You guys are why I check this site every day – several times a day.

  • venice // October 16, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    sandy,

    While I understand your weariness, it’s important to realize that in the wilderness, it is precisely those who fatigue that the predator feasts on.

    This is a psychological battle….just read Alinsky’s rules (I’m sure you’re very familiar).
    Once that becomes clear, fatigue doesn’t set in so easily. Take a break, have a party, read a good novel, and then resume. Because if you don’t, who will? This is a question for everyone.

    Churchill in his sagacity proclaimed this loudly.

  • Linda from NY // October 16, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    OT: But something to consider…

    The Neverending Gravy Train

    http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/10/16/the-neverending-gravy-train/

  • sandy // October 16, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    Venice, I understand and appreciate your pep talk. I guess my question is just how long will it take for justice to be denied for us to be moved to seek alternative forms of restitution?

    How much more evidence needs to be produced for people to simply receive a darn birth certificate and college records? Why are “We the People” not seserving of a court ruling on the definition of NBC?

    I trust that God has a purpose in allowing these events to transpire in the manner that they are. maybe it is time that I remind myself that His will is being done here…..whether I like it or not.

    I may grow weary from time to time, but people like you Venice, hold the arms up of the weary to keep the battle ours.

    Thanks

  • zachjonesishome // October 16, 2009 at 8:19 pm

    Well said CitizenWells -

    God is a word we humans use, inadequately to refer to the creator of the universe. We all have a different perception of this entity. Part of this comprehension of our place in the universe is understanding that we are not God and consequently we need a moral compass to guide our actions and interactions with other humans, life forms and the universe itself. So I am referring to a moral compass that is larger than our egos and personal desires. Without it we are savages.

  • LM // October 16, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Rick Sanchez Apology For Smearing Rush Limbaugh

    Rick Sanchez Admits He, CNN Smeared Rush Limbaugh with Improperly Sourced Quote

  • venice // October 16, 2009 at 8:38 pm

    sandy,
    Alexander Fleming, a Scottish biologist, was alarmed with the speed with which soldiers on the field succumbed to death as a result of infected wounds, better known as septicemia. Antiseptics did little to improve their odds and sometimes aggravated them.

    So one August morning, as he prepared to leave for his holidays, and being somewhat untidy in his habits, he left all his cultures of staphyloccoci on a bench in the corner of his lab. When he returned he noticed that some of the cultures had diminished as a result of fungi invading this bacteria.

    Prior to then he’d spent his career analyzing blood and body fluids in search of substances that would kill bacteria. He did find lyzosome, but never did he expect that the invention of penicillin would be found in an abandoned bacterial culture left astray to collect dust.

    I think the point here is clear. The birth certificate may not be where Obama’s Achilles heel is, but who knows in its quest, what events are yet to unfold.

  • Margie // October 16, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    Sandy, I understand completely. A Major WTF?? How is it possible no body, or bodies stopped this yet. How is it, so many are ignorant to the requirement Natural Born. Foreign influence is exactly the reason why the requirement was put there. Why was he not taken down for Logan Law? We need someone to step up and prosecute. Did they ship the FBI, CIA over sea’s as well as the jobs?

  • RichardL // October 16, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    @ sandy // October 16, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    I had posted a similar thought last week regarding those “Wheels of Justice Grinding Slowly” etc. but as I see, you’re encountering the same lack of interest from any response…

    My point last week was in regard to the Judicial system dragging their collective feet by nit-picking, parsing, and analyzing what appears on the surface to be each and every technicality, obfuscation, and other “legal” delay. While they, the Judges , and Ovomit the usurper play this game of delay, more of our good troops die… since Dr. Taitz went to her hearing before Judge Carter on Oct 5th which was 10 days ago, no less than 25 soldiers have died in combat…. no one as yet has determined with any certainty that they died following legal, and more importantly Constitutional orders….. This is my concern… wrongful death under any circumstances is unacceptable…. wrongful death because people dragged their feet is just plain criminal and murder.

    RichardL

  • citizenwells // October 16, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    Thanks Zach.
    I by no means am trying to impose my beliefs on anyone. In fact, as I stated
    in the post of Oct15, we must put aside our minute differences to save this country.
    However, all one has to do is examine the lack of moral compass of this administration
    and some members of Congress to realize that we must be guided by principals that override
    our own personal desires and agendas.

  • Emudude // October 16, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    The Executive Branch, The Judicial Branch, The Legislative Branch have all been Bought out by George Soros and the Global Community. Most of Washington are singing the Praises of Communists (Present and Past). Obama has finally admitted that he is a Socialist with his remark about the Socialist Mop cleaning up the mess of the Past President. (Yeah, Right). Still around Half or More of America are saying “Give him a chance, he has over 3 more years left to keep his promises and Fix our Country.

  • Michelle // October 16, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    This was on the news tonight. Acorn tactics more Wall Street v/s Main Street. Balance of Power?
    Evening News Home Couric & Co. Assignment America Bios About Us Inside Scoop Podcast @KatieCouric
    Home CBS Evening News NEW YORK, Oct. 16, 2009
    Homeowner Hero’s War on Banks
    The American Spirit: One Man’s Crusade to Help Others Restructure Loans
    Font size Print E-mail Share 6 Comments By Anthony Mason
    Photo
    Bruce Marks leads a sit-in at JP Morgan Chase , trying to keep houses from being foreclosed. (CBS)
    In-Depth
    Q&A: Mortgage Help
    New plan to allow lenders to alter delinquent loans more quickly.
    Stories
    Foreclosures Up 5% from Summer to Fall
    Foreclosures Outpacing Mortgage Changes
    (CBS) He calls himself a “bank terrorist.”
    CBS News Business Correspondent Anthony Mason reports Bruce Marks has introduced guerrilla tactics to the mortgage crisis – from running a sit-in at JP Morgan Chase to dropping furniture on the front lawn of Fannie Mae.
    In his campaign to help struggling homeowners restructure their loans, through a non-profit agency he founded 20 years ago, Marks has declared war on American banks. And it’s personal:
    “It’s personal for the homeowners that are being victimized. We’re going to make it personal for the CEOs,” said Marks. “So we bring the mortgage crisis to their front door, and we are relentless.”
    National Assistance Corporation of America
    Hope Now, Support and Guidance for Homeowners
    This year, he led hundreds of protesters to the home of Morgan Stanley CEO John Mack. It paid off:
    “I get a call on my cell phone 20 minutes later that we want to work this thing out,” said Marks.
    He’s bullied the biggest banks into submission. They’ve struck deals with Marks’ company: the Neighborhood Assistance Corporation of America that, over the past two years, has helped 100,000 people restructure their loans and get lower payments.
    Mason said, “Some people say look, these people should not have been in homes in the first place. They can’t really afford them.”
    “The problem is not who we made the mortgages too. It’s the mortgage product,” replied Marks.
    Across the country, Marks organizes arena-sized mortgage counseling sessions which have drawn more than 300,000 people.
    Why does he do it? As CEO, Marks earns $150,000 a year. But the root of his almost religious fervor may be the severe stutter he had as a child. Marks said it made him sympathize with others who were held back – whether because of poverty or race.
    What some see as his fighting spirit, others say is a publicity grab.
    “I’ve been called all kinds of things,” said Marks. “So whether it’s Robin Hood or bank terrorist or whatever – one thing people don’t say is that we’re not effective.”
    America’s banks will testify Bruce Marks doesn’t stutter anymore. They hear him loud and clear.

  • Michelle // October 16, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    So why didn’t Obama run as a Socialist? They have a party here.
    from the SPUSA Statement of Principles….
    THE SOCIALIST PARTY strives to establish a radical democracy that places people’s lives under their own control – a non-racist, classless, feminist socialist society… where working people own and control the means of production and distribution through democratically-controlled public agencies; where full employment is realized for everyone who wants to work; where workers have the right to form unions freely, and to strike and engage in other forms of job actions; and where the production of society is used for the benefit of all humanity, not for the private profit of a few. We believe socialism and democracy are one and indivisible. The working class is in a key and central position to fight back against the ruling capitalist class and its power. The working class is the major force worldwide that can lead the way to a socialist future – to a real radical democracy from below. The Socialist Party fights for progressive changes compatible with a socialist future. We support militant working class struggles and electoral action, independent of the capitalist controlled two-party system, to present socialist alternatives. We strive for democratic revolutions – radical and fundamental changes in the structure and quality of economic, political, and personal relations – to abolish the power now exercised by the few who control great wealth and the government. The Socialist Party is a democratic, multi-tendency organization, with structure and practices visible and accessible to all members.

  • Michelle // October 16, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    http://www.tothepointnews.com/
    HALF-FULL REPORT 10/16/09
    Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler
    Friday, 16 October 2009
    Right about now with some fresh liberal lunacy inflicted upon our country every day by a president and party that hates it, you may be pulling your hair out by its roots or holding tight onto your head to keep it from exploding.
    You know you can’t hold out until the 2010 elections a year from now. But how about for 18 more days? You can make it that long, can’t you?
    As of today (10/16), November 3rd is 18 days away, and it may be a Day of Doom for Zero, the Pelosicrats, and even for RINOs.
    With few exceptions (like Tom Coburn or Jim DeMint), politicians care more about getting reelected than any principles or integrity they happen to have. Thus the tea leaves of November 3rd may tell dozens of Dems who barely won in 2008 to start running for the exits.
    Register to read more…

  • bob strauss // October 16, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    It looks more and more like Obama was born in Kenya, which means he is going to have a hard time coming up with a birth certificate that says he was born in Hawaii.
    I hope this fraud ends soon my “particularized injury” is wearing me out. Time for a little justice.

  • mrsmwp // October 16, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    PRWH said: BY THE WAY please anyone show me in the Constitution or USA LAWS where it is illegal to be a RACIST?

    This question is from a couple threads back but I thought I would share something about it.

    I don’t listen to Michael Savage much anymore (we now have Mark Levin on at same time) but he once said something that I’ve never forgotten. Regarding hating and crime and political correct BS, he said,

    “I can hate you, but I can’t hurt you.”

    I’ve always thought that was funny and astute.

  • Michelle // October 16, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_QaiXr10PY
    Washington, DC Over There

    WE THE PEOPLE
    down in the trenches, out in the streets, invisible, not heard, insulted- especially at town hall meetings, still paying taxes, diligently fighting in the defense of our Constitution.

  • SueK // October 16, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Hi JustMe,

    From the last post (just got back from the vet, so I’m behind).

    Yes, I’ve heard of Lab 257 and what they do there.

    I can tell you that there are other such facilities scattered across the country, working on the most dangerous bugs known to man. There are 5 Biosafety Level 4 labs in the U.S. All this means is that the safety precautions they must take in order to do their work is the strictest. There are many BSL 3 and 2 labs (Lab 257 is both a BSL3 and BSL 2 facility) in the U.S. and their standards are a bit lower, but still strict.

    What goes on at Lab 257 is subject to interpretation.

  • The South // October 16, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    This is not good.

  • JJ // October 16, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    sandy // October 16, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    Sandy, at church a few weeks ago the teacher told us church membership and attendance in this nation had increased over the last months.

  • SueK // October 16, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    The South // October 16, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    The South,

    If this is true, he’s gotta be taken out of office. Now!

  • Gianni // October 16, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    OT – Mark Fuhrman has released a new book on media handling or non-coverage of murder cases. I wonder if Larry Sinclair or anyone else has alerted Fuhrman to the death of Donald Young and the lack of information about the Chicago Police dept. investigation, or if anything has really been done. I think Fuhrman would be interested in this case. Larry, any contact?

  • John Charlton // October 16, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    Thanks, CW, for the compliment…

    But I am only following in the footsteps of my betters…

  • maddie // October 16, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Gianni—When I heard Fuhrman tonight I wondered if he would investigate Donald Young and any involvement with Obama. Yes, Mark would be a great detective to do this!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Val // October 16, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    Just wondering … how and why, do we all of a sudden have not just one, but two, three and who knows how many more news articles stating “The Kenyan Born Obama” . What’s going on? Are we being punkd? Is this another distraction? I’m just a little concerned that … bam! … news articles everywhere.

    I would think these articles would have surfaced before now with all the ‘investigating’ that so many have done. Why now?

    What’s the opinion here?

  • maddie // October 16, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    The South & SueK–
    WND had an article of Obama on the road to signing a Copenhagen Treaty and giving up our sovereignty. The article was detailed about Senate ratification and if that didn’t work…..
    go to WND, it’s all there
    and very horrifying!!!!!!!!!!
    He must be removed before this, please.

  • The South // October 16, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    SueK and Maddie.

    I think the best defense we have is plastering that video everywhere we can, and especially, send it to your Congressman and Senators.

    This treaty signing has to be stopped, or the United States of America will be no more.

  • SueK // October 16, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    maddie // October 16, 2009 at 10:20 pm

    Thanks, Maddie, I will look at WND.

    Just after the election last year, I had a dream. I realize now that it was more of a vision. I remember every detail, and it’s all coming to fruition. It scared me then, and it scares me now.

    We’re descending into a NWO at breakneck speed. What can we do to stop it?

  • maddie // October 16, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Val–I have the same concerns you do. The timing is odd in that all of them “unveiled” easily now all of a sudden.
    I do wonder (but it’s a long shot) maybe Soros and the Euros that are in the background running everything are not happy with Obama. They know he isn’t qualified and maybe don’t want to watch him go through another 3+ yrs. falling on his face. Maybe they’ve had enough, and they’ll come up with some way to send him away(exile without jail time). I have no inside info of course, just a gut feeling.

  • Linda from NY // October 16, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    One Place…Many Voices

    With each new day that passes,
    With each new story that breaks;
    We strive to make sense of it;
    Through the recompense of it;
    The truth through us awakes!

    We research to our hearts’ content;
    To uncover what is hidden;
    Through the batter and the banter;
    We hit our stride and then, canter;
    Till across the field we’ve ridden!

    Where can we go to find out why?
    Where can we go to get answers?
    For the give and take of you and I;
    Who never cease to wonder why;
    And stamp out Internet cancers!

    We get flustered and frazzled;
    And bedazzled and bemused;
    When we’re looking real hard;
    For that elusive trump card;
    To give up we have refused!

    And who would have thunk;
    We would be forced to debunk;
    Every falsehood we find;
    While keeping in mind;
    We could fall prey to the punk!

    So what does it matter;
    If we stop and chatter;
    To relieve some stress;
    And curb the duress;
    So brain cells won’t shatter!

    As we probe and plod along;
    Separating right from wrong;
    Let’s not get dismayed;
    Even when we’re betrayed;
    Cause it’s here where we belong!

    Linda

  • ramjet767 // October 16, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    What this 2004 article find PROVES is that the Obama being Kenyan Born was not something that was cooked up after he became the President or even after he first considered running for the Presidency. It was widely known in 2004 that Obama was Kenyan born, long before he even considered running for President. Obama had no problem with that back then as it was a non-issue for him. But when he decided to run for President he had to erase and scrub all that. But he and his millions of dollars and hundreds and thousands of ACORN volunteers and attorneys and willing helpers at Google in hiding the truth about Obama have missed some, as this video shows. ;-)

    http://www.thebirthers.org/misc/June2004.html

    So next time you get in a debate about this all being a recently cooked up conspiracy to get Obama, ask them why some Kenyan paper was printing in an African newspaper 5 years ago that Obama was Kenyan born when at that time Obama was not even considering running for the Presidency. Why, because it is the truth and was common knowledge back then in Kenya and in Africa in general.

    http://www.thebirthers.org/misc/June2004.html

    RJ

  • SueK // October 16, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    Linda from NY // October 16, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    Thanks, Linda…that helped settle the nerves a bit.

  • maddie // October 16, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    SueK—I just went to WND where I thought I read the article about the Copenhagen Treaty and what that means to American. I could not find it there now. Sorry, now I have no idea where I read it. If I find it again, I’ll post.

  • HonorFirst // October 16, 2009 at 10:46 pm

    Val
    I brought up the same thing on the last post.

    Remember the “whitey” tapes,all the African Press stories, Jeromie Corsi returning from Kenya with documents to discredit Obama. Jerome Corsi to reveal all on Hannity, etc, etc. None of these came to fruition. We were all diverted and spent days and sometimes weeks digging, discussing, waiting for something to give. But just another big let down.

    We know there’s a fraud in the White House. Proving it is the problem.

    I truely believe these are put out there for diversion. Seems like whenever somebody starts getting close to SOMETHING, wham, something mysterious pops up out of nowhere

    I do think (with these “kenyan born” articles), the point is not what they reveal, but that they are being systematically scrubbed.

    We have been noticing this disappearing act for well over a year. Thank God the techies knew enough to archive certain pages.

    I agree every little bit of ANYTHING will help to bring down lord Obama. But, after so many months and months and months of this stuff, you kinda recognize the smell of a rat

  • JustMe // October 16, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    Venice,

    I think the point here is clear. The birth certificate may not be where Obama’s Achilles heel is, but who knows in its quest, what events are yet to unfold.

    \\\\\\\\

    You take the red pill, you stay in wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.”
    
 –The Matrix

  • SueK // October 16, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    maddie // October 16, 2009 at 10:45 pm

    Thanks, Maddie-I did a WND search and couldn’t find it, either.

    Yes, please post if you dig it up. I have that problem where I know I read something, but have no idea where! A lot of info out there….

  • maddie // October 16, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    http://fightinwordsusa.wordpress.com/2009/10/15/obama-poised-to-cede-us-soverignty-claims-british-lord/

    SueK—found it—-text from the British lord
    and lots of comments afterwards.

  • Linda from NY // October 16, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    venice: This one’s for you!

    Hillary 57

    http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2009/10/hillary-57.html

  • ramjet767 // October 16, 2009 at 11:03 pm

    The point is that this Kenyan Born story has been out there on the net for over 5 years and Obama has virtually succeeded in completely scrubbing the evidence. And no one in the Main Stream Media cares. What is wrong with the 4th estate of our Republic? This is a national disgrace. If the media would have looked at this closely in 2007 what more would they have found. No they chose to look the other way and even help Obama cover up. That is evidenced by the fact that all the AP stories that mention that Obama was born in Kenya have been scrubbed from the AP’s publicly accessible search machine and/or they have re-written stories similar to what happened with that Duckworth story in Hawaii yesterday. The people at the Honolulu advertisers simply re-wrote the story and left it there at the original link but with the embarrassing to Obama admission gone. This is criminal destruction of evidence. This is a major conspiracy. I believe if I remember correctly that the Honolulu Advertiser ownership has connection to the Obama family. Something to do with Rep Abercrombie knowing Franklin Marshall David and Obama’s father, Obama Sr. And if I remember correctly the Abercrombie family has something to do with the that newspaper, the Honolulu Advertiser. This is a massive criminal conspiracy going on. We’re going to need a major RICO investigation of all involved to this treason to our Constitution when this all implodes. JMHO.

    http://www.thebirthers.org/misc/June2004.html

    RJ

  • Michelle // October 16, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    Linda from NY Lame Cherry got it exactly right.
    They must have forgotten we Democrats are Americans first, and Obama is NOT.
    ” Democrats as they have misread the entire American public. Obama can not win for winning and he will lose now in every situation.”

  • Linda from NY // October 16, 2009 at 11:14 pm

    Michelle: I agree…he will be hit from so many angles and places he will not know from where it is coming! He is burnt toast!

  • Linda from NY // October 16, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    Michelle: Did you notice he called Huckabee a socialist? What’s up with that? Huckabee reminds me of Humphrey; he’s not the brightest light bulb in the batch! IMHO, he should stay where he is, especially since he couldn’t even beat McCain for the nomination.

  • Michelle // October 16, 2009 at 11:24 pm

    ramjet767-Linda from NY-what I like best about RICO, the Federal Government gets to seize all the booty. One of my neighbors would hire ex-convicts, nobody dangerous just guys trying to get it together. One of the guys was a black guy, very nice who had been a drug dealer, before my time in the neighborhood. Jail didn’t bother him, but he was very upset that the Fed’s took the big houses, the fast cars, the fast boats and the fast but loose young ladies left soon after. The more in the conspiracy the merrier. Guess you could say if everyone did not do massive amounts of digging we would not have found out all of this beyond sickening corrupt information. Look what we can hand the Federal Government to start them on their journey of arrests and seizures. No one can complain-Bernie Madoff got the same treatment before them.

  • Michelle // October 16, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    Linda from NY-How’s this for an off the wall line up. Hillary and Sarah-really shake up the political establishment. Wonder how long it would take the ladies to clean up Washinton?

  • DAR mom // October 16, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    I have a request – I have a friend who I think exemplifies the mindset of 1. not understanding that the constitution states what the qualifications are for anyone who wishes to run for president
    2. this type of person beleives just because someone has lived here , many years , run for other political offices – opens the door to the CIC/ POTUS
    3. I need to be able to point to very simple reasons why the constitution barrs certain individuals – I know all of the rhetoric , I have the evidence – but I’d like to find a concise written piece from historical perspective to challlenge this type of individual – to cause him to pause that perhaps he is totally missing the reasoning behind disallowing someone who is only a citizen and not a natural born
    4. this is disturbing because I know many very well educated people think all you have to do is call this land yours and you can run for president
    5. Hide the facts and look what happens – slick willy waltzes into our lives and completely unravels our very way of life – these minds believe you should give someone a chance , even though right before their very eyes the reality is
    you see black and they are saying no its white
    I am disturbed because the well educated think they cannot be fooled ….. and they are with simple smoke and mirrors – or twisting facts while denying the whole truth – the skill of cunning lawyers who know how to spin and make the truth unrecognizable .My friend is a nuclear engineer / graduated from UVA in 1985 – fairly young yet thinks he s wise – unfortunately he is not and needs conversion or awakening- and I know it needs to come from somewhere other than me – there are so many like him – “give the man a chance ” is how they think – I think how could we jeopardize our future stability with such a transparent sack of – -it .

  • maddie // October 16, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    from http://www.france24.com
    After the US general election results were in…

    Au Kenya, patrie du père de Barack Obama, la victoire de celui que certains nomment “l’enfant du pays” est aussi fêtée. Quelques minutes seulement après l’annonce de l’élection du premier chef d’Etat noir à la Maison Blanche, le président kenyan Mwai Kibaki, a décrété fériée la journée de jeudi 6 novembre. Il s’agit, précise-t-il dans un communiqué, “de permettre aux Kenyans de célébrer l’exploit historique du sénateur Obama et de notre pays”. Et d’ajouter : “La victoire du sénateur Obama est la victoire de notre pays, en raison de ses racines, ici au Kenya”.
    ++++++++++
    points of interest: in the opening they speak of Obama Sr. as being a Kenyan, but also say there are those that refer to BHO as a
    “l’infant du pays” –literally “child of the country” referring to Kenya above (not America)

    And, last sentence, “A victory for Sen. Obama is a victory for OUR country,because of his roots
    here in Kenya.

    ++++++++++
    The Kenyans stated that the new president would build houses, hopitals, and roads for them.
    The people of Kogelo said the Senator Obama is OUR new President. Obama is going to put Kenya & Africa on the world map now.
    Nov. 6th was declared a day of celebration in Kenya as per their president.

    ==========
    Of course, we now know, too, how the “new President” didn’t even bother to visit his homeland when he went on his African Presidential trip. I wonder what the Kenyans are feeling now????

  • Michelle // October 16, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    DAR mom-how about trust but verify. I hate to use this example again but that is how Bernie Madoff stung his clients, who were educated sophisticated people including the world of investment. Not only did Bernie sting them he got Pension plans, sophisticated investors of every ilk. Worse he even conned the SEC, worse than that he was able to do it for years. Why, because people trusted him, the “gave the man a chance”, the believed him. He literally threw it all back in their faces. All are now broke, wiser and suing Madoff and the SEC, but court cases like this take time. I can tell you that the 2 men involved with tracking Madoff’s assets are very good, they will find the assets, but that also will take time. Meanwhile they’re still broke.

  • Michelle // October 16, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    maddie-unhappy and betrayed Kenyans sort of just like us -hmmm, could be sources for more valuable information.

  • Michelle // October 16, 2009 at 11:45 pm

    maddie-I wonder where they got this idea from pay off for keeping mouths shut?
    “The Kenyans stated that the new president would build houses, hopitals, and roads for them.”

  • maddie // October 16, 2009 at 11:50 pm

    Lame Cherry had an interesting comment–
    time will tell.

  • maddie // October 16, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    Michelle,
    Good thinking…. betrayed Kenyans may want to “help,” I’m sure they haven’t gotten their houses, roads, and hospitals. Last time I heard they were still carrying water from remote areas. And, isn’t his 1/2 brother still in the “hut?”

  • maddie // October 16, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    Michelle,
    Could be promise of “pay offs” for mouths shut. Didn’t they also keep grandma O. from “further” talk after her tidy little “I was there at the birth of my grandson….Berry/Barrick/Barack/Barrack

  • Michelle // October 16, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    maddie-that is cruelty to his half brother it really is. They spend ridiculous amounts on showy but stupid “dates” and can’t dig some money out of his pocket for a starving brother. Sort of like the Lazarus story.

  • GBAmerica // October 16, 2009 at 11:56 pm

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091016/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_community_service
    Bush Sr and Obama in Texas

  • maddie // October 16, 2009 at 11:58 pm

    Well, signing off, night all. ’til tomorrow and
    another day closer to a “new” president (I hope).

  • Michelle // October 17, 2009 at 12:05 am

    Obama is so stupid—did he ever hear of the
    Peace Corps, Salvation Army, Red Cross, every charitable organization that you can imagine, every religious denomination. People have been volunteering for these organizations and more since the country was founded.
    “where active, engaged citizens come in.” many of which and I am one defending our Constitution which means Obama must step down, get out, go to jail, whatever. I think when he was in the cesspool of corruption Chicago’s South side he lost his mind, presuming he had one in the first place. What an idiot.
    COLLEGE STATION, Texas – Calling public service “the essence of our liberty,” President Barack Obama on Friday urged Americans to step up and volunteer in their communities.
    Speaking at a community service forum in Texas, Obama said there’s only so much government can do in tackling the nation’s problems. He said government can build the best schools, but it can’t run the PTA. It can buy the armed forces the best equipment, he said, but it can’t give a home-cooked meal to a military family stretched thin.
    “The need for action always exceeds the limits of government,” Obama said. “While there’s plenty that government can and must do … there’s a lot that government can’t and shouldn’t do and that’s where active, engaged citizens come in.”
    I think the Messiah is having trouble walking on water.

  • DAR mom // October 17, 2009 at 12:06 am

    Thanks Michelle , I am just not only saddened but angry that so many are willing to take a chance on behalf of the greater good – in the midst of Obamas disturbing existence – equally guilty of purpitrating
    high crimes against the American people are not only those in line with the socialist agenda but those willing to chance our lives into slavery – those who believe everybody deserves a chance to redeme themselves / have opportunity to do the right thing – this applies if you know the difference – not on my dime should we ever think its okay to monkey around with the freedoms of our brothers and sisters ….. this is precisely what false pride does when it cannot admit – I made a freak mistake and voted for a social /communist – selectively turning a blind eye – I walk around shaking my head everyday – when is this crazy farce going to end . And I want to shake up those close to me still willing to say we have to give him time – even though they see the sky is falling .

  • Michelle // October 17, 2009 at 12:16 am

    DAR mom-are you trying to say that you voted for Obama and now you are sorry. If you did that’s ok. He tricked a lot of Democrats that way. I know we argued about that at work. Half the Dem’s were going to be good Democrats and vote for him while gagging. I said I’m not going to vote for him I wrote in Hillary considered a protest vote in Florida, and the remainder voted for McCain. The government does not get it. One they lied, that wasn’t bad enough, worse they tried to cover it up. This makes the hair on the America people stand up. Just you wait when the ones who don’t know yet due to media interference find out they will be more livid than we are-they will be shocked to there very core.

  • DAR mom // October 17, 2009 at 12:28 am

    Oh no – I absolutely did not vote for this man – I recognized him way back in June before the election. I am angry and disturbed by those still willing to give him a chance event though it is so apparent those that voted for him made a mistake yet it is ok to monkey around with allowing such an unqualified individual to learn on the job – to have access to our most valued secrets / security secrets / and on down the line
    The hair stands up on my neck everytime I hear or see that cold calculating inhuman say my this my that and what he plans to change – I am over it – I am having a hard time dealing with friends who are filled with white guilt and change for the sake of change no matter how bad bad is – they cannot admit …um ….big mistake .
    I guess I’m tired – I love my country and I want to be proud of the men / women who we choose to represent us ( key represent – not lead ) and they ALL collectively need to go and be replaced with you me , teachers , docs, nurses , coaches , moms dads – the ones who know how to make it work with very little and do what is best for our country – it starts at home (and many are realizing this ) but not enough – Ihope we aren’t sacrificed -but if I have to be for my children then so be it !

  • Kim // October 17, 2009 at 12:32 am

    This gives me hope even if Obama signs the Copenhagen Treaty
    A comment from Fightinwords by R. Choleton:

    “Elected officials, while acting as agents for the principals, who are the American people, do not have agency status to transfer sovereignty of their principals to another government, regardless of the language in the Constitution. Remember, the U.S. Constitution was to bind the government, not the American people.

    The sovereign American people are higher than the U.S. Constitution. Only government officials who provide an oath or affirmation to support and defend the Constitution come under the criteria of such a document.

    So when “Lord” Obama thinks he may transfer the sovereignty of the United States to some foreign government, such an act being a treasonous offense, he does not give away the sovereignty of the American people at large, one whit.

    If Obama does sign the treaty, the American people need to call for his impeachment for high crimes and misdemeanors. Treason defined is waging war against the several states, i.e. “them” (Constitution, Article III, Sect. 3, Clause 1).

    The American people constitute “the state in fact” (case cite omitted), so when an act inimical to their best interests, as will be by the signing of a treaty which purportedly subjugates the jurisdiction of the United States under some foreign body, the signer is waging war against the sovereigns. The sovereign Americans need to act to remove the usurper by the means constituted, since such an act of treason cannot be tolerated.”

  • Kim // October 17, 2009 at 12:40 am

    Sorry, didn’t add the link to my last post, here it is again
    http://fightinwordsusa.wordpress.com/2009/10/15/obama-poised-to-cede-us-soverignty-claims-british-lord/

  • DAR mom // October 17, 2009 at 12:40 am

    herea herea !Obama is racking up the high crimes and misdemeanors !

  • Kim // October 17, 2009 at 12:49 am

    Obama has already committed high crimes and misdemeanors, and treason against the American people as many of his orders and actions have been “act(s) inimical to our best interests…”
    We, as sovereigns must recognize our power and use it. We are not only higher up than the office of the presidency and the rest of government, we are also above the Constitution itself.

  • DAR mom // October 17, 2009 at 12:54 am

    To earlier comment – God’s will is not what we are witnessing with Obamas radical desires and hatred of this nation – it is how we handle the deceiver and it requires wisdom and discernment of Gods will – the test is what path we choose to handle this difficult assault on our Nation.
    In other words it is not Gods will that we are faced with such a challenge as Obama /how to stop his destruction – this was mans doings – not we have to deal .

  • DAR mom // October 17, 2009 at 12:55 am

    “not ” now instead – sorry – late going to bed .

  • Kim // October 17, 2009 at 12:58 am

  • Val // October 17, 2009 at 1:14 am

    Don’t know if this was posted … but here’s another Kenyan Born article …

    http://thepmnews.com/2008/11/25/two-nigerians-tipped-as-potential-%E2%80%98british-obama%E2%80%99

  • Aristotle the Hun // October 17, 2009 at 2:28 am

    CW
    “God is a word we humans use, inadequately to refer to the creator of the universe.”

    Take a look at this for a more detailed description. MSWord copies available upon request.

    Ordinary and Marvelous
    AND
    The Secrets of the Universe

    http://wowchurch.blogspot.com/2009/10/ordinary-and-marvelous-and-secrets-of_06.html

    Get a drink and a snack. It is 20 pages when printed.

  • JeffM // October 17, 2009 at 2:28 am

    Just looking at photos of this Kenyan joker makes my stomach queasy. Can we edit the pics and paste a smiley face over his obnoxious mug or something?

  • Aristotle the Hun // October 17, 2009 at 2:38 am

    Kenya: http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm

    Published In Uganda: http://allafrica.com/stories/200802180051.html

    Published In Nigeria: http://www.nigerianobservernews.com/4112008/4112008/news/news1.html

    The National Public Radio article is here — http://frontpage.americandaughter.com/?p=2607

  • jbjd // October 17, 2009 at 6:03 am

    Michelle,

    One of the guys was a black guy, very nice who had been a drug dealer, before my time in the neighborhood.

    What is it with people on this blog identifying the color of a black person, when his or her color has no obvious bearing on the story? This is right out of Racism 101.

    The newspapers used to do this all the time; that is, identifying race only when the race was black, and usually when the black person was being accused of wrongdoing.

  • sandy // October 17, 2009 at 6:54 am

    Thank you all for the uplifting comments last night. Venice, my battle wounds are healing….lol

    I ran into neighbor Rick Sanchez and his wife (who is a wonderful person…..go figure) the other day at a school function.
    I had my bulldog with me and out of the blue he asked me if I had taken her to any tea parties. He was obvioulsy fishing for my political views. Poor guy is so desperate to find one lib in our neighborhood….lol
    He lives in one of the biggest conservative cities in the state…..lol That, alone, is a little justice for what he did to Rush……and may be part of why he apologized……ha

  • William // October 17, 2009 at 7:42 am

    JBJD,

    What is it with people on this blog identifying the color of a black person, when his or her color has no obvious bearing on the story? This is right out of Racism 101.
    *******************************************

    I disagree, it is still reported in this manner, positive or negative. In fact, I just reviewed a report by Dr. Walter Williams, and he uses these as identifiers all the time. You may not be saying the same thing or I may be misunderstanding your use of such terms altogether. Let’s see how many times Walter uses such terms in a single article:

    “Former president Jimmy Carter said, “I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man.” That’s from a man who earlier referred to Obama as “This black boy” on the Jim Lehrer “News Hour.” New York Times social critic Maureen Dowd said, in reference to Rep. Joe Wilson’s shouting “Liar” during Obama’s address on health care before the joint session of Congress, “Some people just can’t believe a black man is president and will never accept it.” Washington Post’s Howard Kurtz said he “began to suspect that race was a factor for at least some critics when I heard them shouting about ‘the Constitution’ and ‘taking our country back.’” Kurtz asked whether the massive tea parties and other public protests reflect a “distinct discomfort with the country’s first black president.” House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charlie Rangel, Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson, New York Gov. David Paterson, MSNBC’s Chris Matthews, and other leftists claim that racism is behind criticism of President Obama.

    For these people, it is inconceivable that many Americans are outraged by the president’s spending policies, budget deficits, industry takeovers, not to mention the appointment of Czars, a term that ought to be alien and offensive to American values whether used by a Republican or Democratic president.

    Obama’s presidency is truly a remarkable commentary on the goodness of Americans and how far we’ve come in resolving matters of race. Obama convincingly won votes in states with insignificant black populations, such as the New England states, Iowa and Minnesota. For the nation as a whole, he managed 53 percent of the popular vote and 365 of the Electoral College votes when he only needed 270 to win. So now Jimmy Carter, Dowd, Rangel and other race-carders want us to believe that the massive discontent with Obama is racism. I say nonsense!

    Speaking for the president, Robert Gibbs, White House spokesman, in no uncertain terms said that the president did not think the criticism directed at him and his policies was based on the color of his skin. President Obama refused to answer a reporter who queried him about Carter’s comments. When Obama did respond, and much to his credit, he insisted that the “biggest driver” of the vitriol was distrust of government. His response was not only correct but the nation is better off as a result of it. We don’t need the kind of divisiveness that would surely arise if Obama himself played the race card.

    Race is no longer the problem that it once was. That doesn’t mean there are not white and black bigots and that every vestige of racial discrimination has been eliminated. What little racial discrimination remains is nowhere near the insurmountable barrier it once was. For the most part, white bigots are no longer respected among whites and I look forward to the day when black bigots are no longer respected among blacks.

    When one says that race is no longer the problem it once was, it is not the same as saying that there are not major problems that confront a large segment of the black population. Grossly fraudulent education is a major problem but it has nothing to do with racial discrimination as evidenced by the fact that the worse education received is in the very cities where blacks dominate the political structure.

    Crime is a major problem but it has nothing to do with racial discrimination, particularly in light of the fact that blacks commit most of the violent crime in America and well over 90 percent of their victims are black. The fact of a 70 percent illegitimacy rate and only 35 percent of black children raised in two-parent homes is a major problem but it has nothing to do with racial discrimination.

    Americans should disavow and not fall prey to the racial rope-a-dope being played on us by the nation’s race hustlers.”

    Walter E. Williams

  • Jack // October 17, 2009 at 8:18 am

    An incredibile but true piece:

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/

  • ARMY D.A.V // October 17, 2009 at 8:30 am

    HonorFirst

    We know there’s a fraud in the White House. Proving it is the problem.

    ******************************

    Already proved beyond any reason of a doubt.

    The problem is indicting and sending the Indonesian to prison .

  • ARMY D.A.V // October 17, 2009 at 8:40 am

    William // October 17, 2009 at 7:42 am

    JBJD,

    *********************************

    Only used by the left as propaganda to convince you he was duly elected , a Christian, Black and President of the United States.

  • maddie // October 17, 2009 at 9:31 am

    ARMYDAV—I agree, but why doesn’t HE
    have to prove it for himself? He’s the one hiding all his history and records?
    Sorry, I’ve just had enough of this idiot!

  • maddie // October 17, 2009 at 9:32 am

    Jack // October 17, 2009 at 8:18 am

    An incredibile but true piece:

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com
    +++++++++++
    Super excellent article. We should all copy this before it gets scrubbed.
    KGB agent—I could easily buy that.

  • maddie // October 17, 2009 at 9:41 am

    think about this comment from bho in San Francisco recently….
    I’m not going to QUIT—-

    Unconsciously is he “hoping” to quit —this job is just not the fun I thought it would be–too much real work, not enough playing around for me

    or doublespeak— I am going to quit–I need out of here.
    +++++++++++
    Awhile ago referring to Kenya—bho talked about “retiring” to Kenya one day, he and Michelle

    doublespeak—we’re going to Kenya in EXILE
    when my gig is up, and they discover I’m not eligible….
    I’d still be ok there (not sure, but this would be the first place to try).

  • LM // October 17, 2009 at 9:52 am

    Plan Killed to Make “Naturalized” Citizens Eligible

    Failed 2004 proposal would have given immigrants entry to Oval Office

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=113183

  • LM // October 17, 2009 at 9:53 am

    The full transcript of the October 5 district court hearing in Alan Keyes et al v. Barack Obama et al.

    http://www.scribd.com/full/21189922?access_key=key-h7ylxmldbo3bs6cpk3m

  • Michelle // October 17, 2009 at 9:59 am

    jbjd-The person I spoke of was proud that he was a black person, and always teased me about being white, he was informing me of the happy life of an ex-drug dealer brought back down to earth by our criminal justice system.

  • ARMY D.A.V // October 17, 2009 at 10:05 am

    maddie

    why doesn’t HE
    have to prove it for himself?
    **************************

    Because we don’t have a legitimate Congress….

  • Michelle // October 17, 2009 at 10:09 am

    Friday, October 16, 2009 Email to a Friend ShareThis.Advertisement
    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows that 29% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-nine percent (39%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -10 (see trends).

  • JJ // October 17, 2009 at 10:13 am

    SECURITY CONCERNS FOR TOURISM AS SENATOR OBAMA JETS INTO KENYA

    As Kenyan born US Senator Barack Obama jets into Kenya today as part of his African tour, concerns have once again been raised on the security preparations for other visitors and residents. While Senator Obama will of course be accorded security from the presidential protection details, just a few days ago the Russian Ambassador was hurt when his car was stopped outside Nairobi and he was robbed of valuables. Reports have also emerged of a top of the range luxury tented safari camp in the Masai Mara having been raided and British and American tourists robbed of their belongings but reportedly not hurt. The robbers made off across the border with Tanzania, reminding the tourism sector that security is an ongoing issue and complacency has no place when it comes to such crucial matters.

    http://www.africa-ata.org/ug_newsletter.htm

  • Linda from NY // October 17, 2009 at 10:23 am

    LM: @9:52 That certainly is good news! Barney showed his true colors for sure as did many of the other “ill-informed” Congress-Critters!

    What an encouraging couple of days we have had!

    Thanks so much for sharing!

  • John Charlton // October 17, 2009 at 10:35 am

    Judge Carter shows his ethics

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/17/carter-shows-his-ethics-hires-obama-lawyer-as-clerk-oct-1st/

    1 Thing is certain about Obama

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/17/1-thing-is-certain-about-obama/

    SSN Fraud tied to Obama’s SSN

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/ssn-fraud-tied-to-obamas-ssn/

    And let’s not forget, Obama conceded that he was not a NBC…

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/15/obama-concedes-hes-not-a-nbc-in-obama-vs-keyes-2004-debate/

  • JJ // October 17, 2009 at 10:53 am

    jbjd // October 17, 2009 at 6:03 am

    I worked at a K-Mart in Nashville with 80% blacks and that was a descriptive adjective used by them when they didn’t understand who I was referring to……”you mean the black Lisa or the white Lisa?”
    Get over yourself…….to me it’s just like saying “you mean the tall Lisa or the short Lisa?” just as the employees I worked with meant it as a defining word.

  • Jacqlyn Smith // October 17, 2009 at 10:54 am

    #

    Jack // October 17, 2009 at 8:18 am

    An incredibile but true piece:

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/
    *******************************************

    This is an outrage….what and when are “we the people” going to rise up…..I am sick of these SOB’S~~~~

  • Portuguese Revolutionary War Hero - Peter Francisco // October 17, 2009 at 11:21 am

    TO:
    mrsmwp // October 16, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    PRWH said: BY THE WAY please anyone show me in the Constitution or USA LAWS where it is illegal to be a RACIST?

    “I can hate you , but I can’t hurt you”.

    ==========================

    Astute indeed.

    Not only that but THOUGHTS can only hurt the self. If never turned into action how would a “victim” know UNLESS their thoughts are actually the things HURTING them, not what others are thinking or saying.

    Example:
    A black person calls a black, white or anyone else nigger, or any spelling variation of the word, and not even an eye is blinked. Now if a white calls a black a nigger (or variation) even if not uttered as hate speech but only emulating what they hear in music, etc. all hell may break loose. Now who is to blame the person saying the word or the thought of the one hearing it?

    A Simple Complication or not so.

  • RichardL // October 17, 2009 at 11:24 am

    All………… If you missed this in Mr. Charlton’s earlier post…read it!!! Read it!!!

    I copy / pasted the link from his earlier post:

    John Charlton // October 17, 2009 at 10:35 am

    Judge Carter shows his ethics

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/17/carter-shows-his-ethics-hires-obama-lawyer-as-clerk-oct-1st/

  • Jack // October 17, 2009 at 11:29 am

    We are at war (like never before seen) for the survival of the American Constitutional Republic:

    John Charlton // October 17, 2009 at 10:35 am:

    Judge Carter shows his ethics

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/17/carter-shows-his-ethics-hires-obama-lawyer-as-clerk-oct-1st/

    1 Thing is certain about Obama

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/17/1-thing-is-certain-about-obama/

    SSN Fraud tied to Obama’s SSN

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/ssn-fraud-tied-to-obamas-ssn/

  • Nancy // October 17, 2009 at 11:39 am

    Just received the following email:

    Thought you might be interested in this information from the White House.

    This isn’t a rumor; this is a fact.

    We have a friend at church who is a very talented artist. For several years
    she, among many others, has painted ornaments to be hung on the various
    White House Christmas trees. The WH sends out an invitation to send an
    ornament and informs the artists of the theme for the year.

    She got her letter from the WH recently. It said that they would not be
    called Christmas trees this year. They will be called Holiday trees.
    And, to please not send any ornaments painted with a religious theme.
    She was very upset at this development and sent back a reply telling them
    that she painted the ornaments for Christmas trees and would not be
    sending any for display that left Christ out of Christmas.

    Just thought you should know what the new residents in the WH plan
    for the future of America ..

    If you missed his statement that “we do not consider ourselves a Christian
    Nation”, this should confirm that he plans to take us away from our religious
    foundation as quickly as possible.
    Vicky Giorgetti
    ReMax Premier Properties
    Lifetime Achievement, GRI, CRS

  • Val // October 17, 2009 at 11:40 am

    As far as the “black” comments …. I’m sick of some in the news trying to be “politically correct”

    Listening to the news … they report ..
    “The Attacker was a male in his 20’s, dark hair and eyes, wearing blah, blah, blah …..?”

    Gee, sure seems to me that if they identified his race that might help.

    Don’t cha think?

  • d2i // October 17, 2009 at 11:51 am

    JS – watch carefully the groundwork being laid by both sides of the aisle right now. Check out WND’s recent post about hearing’s held b4 the Senate Judiciary Committee on October 5, 2004, only months after Obama gave his speech at the DNC Convention.

    Ask yourself, why would Frank along w/Hatch, two heavy lifters from both sides of the aisle, agree that Article II should be changed? hhhmmm. Could they have been attempting a run around the Constitution five years ago? Yes. Hatch was looking out for his buddy, McCain AND Frank was looking out for his buddy, Obama.

    To believe for one moment that members of Congress, all of them, were unaware these two men were ineligible to serve as President, is preposturous!

    However, one of them was going to win. Both Party’s were colluding. This explains why their was utter silence on the ineligibility issue from the MSM b/c they kowtow to the Party structure elite. Therefore, they are as guilty if not more in the collusion than the two Party’s.

    It also explains the stupid responses constitutents received when challenging their representatives about 0’s eligibility issues. Instead of providing a sound response, these jackasses, R’s and D’s alike, wrote the same nonsensical responses basically telling you, the informed voter, that you were misinformed b/c of the “phantom” birth announcement and crappy “COLB” which clearly shows, as Miss Tickly has written, “Filed” NOT “Accepted”. These losers thought you’d buy it, and when we didn’t they were at a loss. How dare we not trust our own eyes and mind? Who do we think we are? The height of chutzpah!

    Since McCain didn’t make it into the WH, the R’s were put in a corner. They colluded and are as guilty as the D’s. This is a fact. However, since McCain didn’t win, his eligibility issue is of no consequence anymore. He can serve as a US Senator without being a NBC.

    Stay with me on this, I’m thinking out loud as I write it.

    Now, the election is over and 0 is installed as President. The R’s, early on, choose to remain quiet and support the meme built by the D’s to defend 0 regarding his ineligibility status.

    What they didn’t count on, or maybe they did and believed they could stall him, was his radical marxist policies. So the R’s have put themselves in a proverbial box – if they challenge 0’s ineligibility then the D’s will fire back w/McCain’s ineligibility. Thereby outing the collusion.

    The question now is, how in the hell do R’s get out of it? These folks aren’t stupid, however, we all know they are lousy liars, but they can see that his policies will destroy this country and may even destroy our two-party system resulting in the death of the Republican Party. Someone finally frickin realizes they’ve been played, and must do something to correct the course.

    Never should they have colluded with the D’s. Never! But they did and they will answer for it at the polls. McCain needs to resign from the Senate for one reason and one reason only, he is the only reason the R’s put their necks on the line. Shame on him! Shame on the rest of the caucus!

    Now that they are coming to their senses, one can hope they have the stones to do what’s right for our republic. If they come clean with the public about their collusion, and if they take the right action to remove the usurper, then they will restore faith to their base and save our country from marxism, socialism and fascism. But they must come clean or else they will suffer mighty consequences and only delay the inevitable.

    So, what do they do?

  • carmen // October 17, 2009 at 11:53 am

    Good morning all, We have had a week of encouragment. Maddie the remark that O made about “I’m not goin to quit” let us know he has thought about it. There was an anti Obama group out side and the little boy was most likely a plant. The statement also reminded me of his I’m not going to raise taxes so he always lies this is just another lie. I can just see them in exile in Kenya O in a pair of old sweats and MO with no hairdresser and an afro. Now then in 2005-06 I did a local television program in Ft. Ogle.,Ga. The lady that owns the station her son went into the Marine Corps with my son on the buddy plan, I have known her for a lot of years. I am talking to her about a live call in program with questions about O’s eligibility. I’m looking at an hour program the scheduling has got to be worked so that it will be a time when lots of families can tune in. It would certainly be nice if he is put out before this takes place. The libs must be terrified to send one of their own lawyers to Judge Carter. Every day I say Lord what can I do today to help my country? GOD bless you all!!

  • Michelle // October 17, 2009 at 11:55 am

    From President Lincoln to: The One with the problems with anything that remotely resembles the truth. Good try tho Obama.
    You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
    Abraham Lincoln, (attributed)
    16th president of US (1809 – 1865)

  • Jacqlyn Smith // October 17, 2009 at 12:05 pm

    d2i // October 17, 2009 at 11:51 am

    JS – watch carefully the groundwork being laid by both sides of the aisle right now. Check out WND’s recent post about hearing’s held b4 the Senate Judiciary Committee on October 5, 2004, only months after Obama gave his speech at the DNC Convention.

    Ask yourself, why would Frank along w/Hatch, two heavy lifters from both sides of the aisle, agree that Article II should be changed? hhhmmm. Could they have been attempting a run around the Constitution five years ago? Yes. Hatch was looking out for his buddy, McCain AND Frank was looking out for his buddy, Obama.

    To believe for one moment that members of Congress, all of them, were unaware these two men were ineligible to serve as President, is preposturous!

    However, one of them was going to win. Both Party’s were colluding. This explains why their was utter silence on the ineligibility issue from the MSM b/c they kowtow to the Party structure elite. Therefore, they are as guilty if not more in the collusion than the two Party’s.

    It also explains the stupid responses constitutents received when challenging their representatives about 0’s eligibility issues. Instead of providing a sound response, these jackasses, R’s and D’s alike, wrote the same nonsensical responses basically telling you, the informed voter, that you were misinformed b/c of the “phantom” birth announcement and crappy “COLB” which clearly shows, as Miss Tickly has written, “Filed” NOT “Accepted”. These losers thought you’d buy it, and when we didn’t they were at a loss. How dare we not trust our own eyes and mind? Who do we think we are? The height of chutzpah!

    Since McCain didn’t make it into the WH, the R’s were put in a corner. They colluded and are as guilty as the D’s. This is a fact. However, since McCain didn’t win, his eligibility issue is of no consequence anymore. He can serve as a US Senator without being a NBC.

    Stay with me on this, I’m thinking out loud as I write it.

    Now, the election is over and 0 is installed as President. The R’s, early on, choose to remain quiet and support the meme built by the D’s to defend 0 regarding his ineligibility status.

    What they didn’t count on, or maybe they did and believed they could stall him, was his radical marxist policies. So the R’s have put themselves in a proverbial box – if they challenge 0’s ineligibility then the D’s will fire back w/McCain’s ineligibility. Thereby outing the collusion.

    The question now is, how in the hell do R’s get out of it? These folks aren’t stupid, however, we all know they are lousy liars, but they can see that his policies will destroy this country and may even destroy our two-party system resulting in the death of the Republican Party. Someone finally frickin realizes they’ve been played, and must do something to correct the course.

    Never should they have colluded with the D’s. Never! But they did and they will answer for it at the polls. McCain needs to resign from the Senate for one reason and one reason only, he is the only reason the R’s put their necks on the line. Shame on him! Shame on the rest of the caucus!

    Now that they are coming to their senses, one can hope they have the stones to do what’s right for our republic. If they come clean with the public about their collusion, and if they take the right action to remove the usurper, then they will restore faith to their base and save our country from marxism, socialism and fascism. But they must come clean or else they will suffer mighty consequences and only delay the inevitable.

    So, what do they do

    *******************************************
    d2i….
    I agree with a lot of this…..however….don’t forget the resolution passed to make McCain eligible…..the FRAUD, HRC and McCaskill all had a hand in this….they made Congress believe McCain was legit…..therefore I believe many of these MORONS….and I say MORONS for a reason…..they are not as informed on what “natural born” means as “we the people” are….also….don’t forget that they recently passed another resolution saying that the FRAUD was born in Hawaii….. “we the people” don’t agree with that BS either…..these resolutions are a sm0kescreen to misdirect and fool citizens into believing we have a qualified person leading our nation when in reality this could not be further from the truth…..Lincoln said it best……….

    Abraham Lincoln: You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.

  • live oak // October 17, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    Okay Legal Eagles here at CW. This is very upsetting and I need your feedback. I don’t know what to do anymore. I wrote to Orly but I know how busy she is. Is it going to take a revolution??? I think so! READ THIS! I just found it posted at the Post&Email.

    Carter shows his ethics: hires lawyer from Obama firm, as clerk Oct. 1st

    October 17, 2009 by John Charlton
    UNIMAGINABLE, UNBELIEVABLE, OUTRAGEOUS MOVE

    by John Charlton

    (Oct. 17, 2009) — In a stunning blow to the impartiality of the American Judicial system, Federal Judge David O. Carter, who is hearing the case Barnett vs. Obama, has just hired a lawyer who works for a law firm where Robert F. Bauer, one of Obama’s top lawyers is a partner. And that, just days before the Oct. 5, 2009 hearing on the Motion to Dismiss, in which his demeanor radically changed, according to Dr. Orly Taitz, esq., lead counsel for the Plaintiffs.

    Siddharth Velamoor is the lawyer chosen by Carter to serve as one of his two official clerks, from Oct. 1, 2009, till Sept. 30, 2010, according to Wikipedia. Velamoor is listed as an associate with Perkins Coie, LLP’s office in Seattle, Washington.

    Robert F. Bauer, is a partner of Perkins Coie, LLP’s office in Washington, D.C.. His bio at the company identifies him as holding the Chair of the Political Law group at the firm; general counsel to Obama’s Campaign for America and general counsel to the Democratic National Committee.

    Since Siddharth Velamoor could ostensibly loose his job or be blacklisted by Perkins Coie, if the case did not go Obama’s way; his presence in Judge Carter’s chambers clearly impugns the integrity of the court, and will be the cause of dismay among the general public.

  • carmen // October 17, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    I always wondered why McCain wouldn’t “bring it” during the election.

  • Paulajal // October 17, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    So the White House has its man in Carter’s office overseeing him. You do realize that Judge’s clerks do all the research, so can completely determine the Judge’s opinion (depending on the judge.) I’m going to be sick.

  • oldsalt77 // October 17, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    John Charlton……………………………….

    Regarding Sortoro’s alleged SS #. I t seems to me that if the number was originally issued to a man who was born in 1890 that person would have been eligible to draw benefits in 1955. It would also seem that today if he/she is still alive that person would be 119 years of age. I have read that if a person is dead there is no legal problen generated in releasing the name oj the person receiving SS benefits under that number from 1955 on.This would prove that the number was not issued to Soetoro.

  • Michelle // October 17, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    d21-I think if they took they point of view of just thinking about our soldiers at war risking their lives and limbs everyday and their families they would know what to do, which is the right thing. They have the solution and it is right in their hands– The Constitution-how many already since the birth of our nation have lived by it and died by it , obey the law and let the chips fall where they may. They need to remind themselves they took an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. This is not about parties or careers little selfish whims or wants this is about our country. I have no idea who all the players R or D-some of this is supposition at this point, but I also don’t know how long WE THE PEOPLE will put up with this nonsense. This is the legal, peaceful group-hoping for an honorable outcome, since I grew up in Chicago I remember the DNC convention of 68, there are those who don’t wait. Let us hope the cooler heads prevail.
    “Now that they are coming to their senses, one can hope they have the stones to do what’s right for our republic. If they come clean with the public about their collusion, and if they take the right action to remove the usurper, then they will restore faith to their base and save our country from marxism, socialism and fascism. But they must come clean or else they will suffer mighty consequences and only delay the inevitable.”

  • d2i // October 17, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    Now, the way I see it, you Republican’s have the Party by the kahoonas. You, the voter, have the power now. You, the voter, can correct this course now.

    I’m an unaffiliated voter now. Was a lifelong D until the May 31, 2008 DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee. Therefore, my only stake in the game is wanting my country back, and removing the ineligible candidate from the WH.

    That said, you the Republican voter holds the power. The RNC isn’t going to tell you that nor are they going to track you down and ask.

    Nope. You the Republican must begin a letter writing campaign telling your leaders that you are more than aware of the collusion b/w the D and R party and that you demand they take corrective action. Use your power and right the course of the RNC. If they know their base stands behind them, even after they confess all of their dirty dealings to you and the rest of the nation, then you’ve won. We’ve won!

    You the Republican will have led us out of the woods, but they must hear from you and they must be told that you know what they did and why. You must tell them your truth and you must tell them they will be forgiven only IF they cleanse themselves of this dastardly deed. And the only way they can do that is by owning up to it publicly. Taking responsibility for their actions and asking you the Republican voter to forgive them.

    This can happen if their are hundreds, thousands of you writing to them. Similar to the recent “Pink Slip” campaign. Do a form letter of some sort that you can download so as to add your own thoughts to it. Call it a “forgiveness” campaign.

    The sooner the leaders hear from you, their base, the greater risks these leaders will take.

    Btw, it helps them get out of the corner they are boxed into right now. Help them. Make them responsible to you.

  • DAR mom // October 17, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13MQFCfCYdQ&feature=fvw

    passion is what we feel for our country – just listen to this ……..

  • Jacqlyn Smith // October 17, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    Here’s the latest at Orly’s site……

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Important

    Posted on | October 17, 2009 | No Comments

    I called Lord Mockton at spp institute. His aid Bob Ferguson said that they deal only with global warming and will not be involved. These aids are often placed in key positions to sway the leaders. Can someone reach Lord Mockton bypassing this sold out aid.

    In re to the clerk, who worked for Bob Bauer, Obama’s lawyer and now someone got this person position with judge Carter, I was asked if he started after I filed with Carter. I don’t know the answer to this one yet, all i know is that this atty is from Seattle WA, hot bed of Socialists and Communists,I wouldn’t put anything pass that crowd.

    I am currently looking for plaintiffs with standing in DC, Eastern District of VA, ID, Eastern District of TX, OK

  • live oak // October 17, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    @JS,
    I just posted the article from the Post &Email about the clerk at 12:10. PLEASE EVERYBODY READ IT!!!! I need feedback from the lawyers here at this site. My thanks to all of you!

  • Jacqlyn Smith // October 17, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    #

    d2i // October 17, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    Now, the way I see it, you Republican’s have the Party by the kahoonas. You, the voter, have the power now. You, the voter, can correct this course now.

    I’m an unaffiliated voter now. Was a lifelong D until the May 31, 2008 DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee. Therefore, my only stake in the game is wanting my country back, and removing the ineligible candidate from the WH.

    That said, you the Republican voter holds the power. The RNC isn’t going to tell you that nor are they going to track you down and ask.

    Nope. You the Republican must begin a letter writing campaign telling your leaders that you are more than aware of the collusion b/w the D and R party and that you demand they take corrective action. Use your power and right the course of the RNC. If they know their base stands behind them, even after they confess all of their dirty dealings to you and the rest of the nation, then you’ve won. We’ve won!

    You the Republican will have led us out of the woods, but they must hear from you and they must be told that you know what they did and why. You must tell them your truth and you must tell them they will be forgiven only IF they cleanse themselves of this dastardly deed. And the only way they can do that is by owning up to it publicly. Taking responsibility for their actions and asking you the Republican voter to forgive them.

    This can happen if their are hundreds, thousands of you writing to them. Similar to the recent “Pink Slip” campaign. Do a form letter of some sort that you can download so as to add your own thoughts to it. Call it a “forgiveness” campaign.

    The sooner the leaders hear from you, their base, the greater risks these leaders will take.

    Btw, it helps them get out of the corner they are boxed into right now. Help them. Make them responsible to you.
    ******************************************

    Alot of them will understand this when they are voted out in 2010 if they are up for re-election….also….no one should be elected unless they vow to make the eligibility thing their first priority!!!!

  • d2i // October 17, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    JS – couldn’t agree with you more. All of them are morons. These people believed they were smarter than “We the People” and thought they could bamboozle us. Good grief. If that isn’t a definition for moron I don’t know what is.

    But wait, the worst of it is this, they actually believe we’ll put up with this farcical nonsense for four years! I don’t know about you but this issue isn’t going to go away. It will only continue to grow exponentially.

  • Jacqlyn Smith // October 17, 2009 at 12:23 pm

    #

    live oak // October 17, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    @JS,
    I just posted the article from the Post &Email about the clerk at 12:10. PLEASE EVERYBODY READ IT!!!! I need feedback from the lawyers here at this site. My thanks to all of you!
    ________________________________

    live oak….several posted it before you…and now I posted what Orly is saying….she doesn’t know yet when this guy was hired…..still and outrage no matter what!!

  • carmen // October 17, 2009 at 12:23 pm

    Did the WH think this clerk in Carter’s court would go unnoticed? I am so weary of having the intelligence of the people being insulted. They think we are as stupid as they are. The Ca. courthouse needs an anti O protest. NOW

  • Jacqlyn Smith // October 17, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    #

    d2i // October 17, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    JS – couldn’t agree with you more. All of them are morons. These people believed they were smarter than “We the People” and thought they could bamboozle us. Good grief. If that isn’t a definition for moron I don’t know what is.

    But wait, the worst of it is this, they actually believe we’ll put up with this farcical nonsense for four years! I don’t know about you but this issue isn’t going to go away. It will only continue to grow exponentially.
    ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

    It will never go away if you love this country…..it is slowly and surely being taken away from the Christians and conservatives who are in the majority at 75%!!!

  • d2i // October 17, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    Yes, JS, but can we afford to wait until 2010? The answer is no.

    The more time passes, the more unscrupulous and under handed laws will be passed. The more money will be spent. This needs to be stopped now.

    Undoing nine months of Executive Orders is a helluva lot easier to undo than two years, three or four years worth.

  • live oak // October 17, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    @JS,
    Thank you. I didn’t know.

  • JJ // October 17, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    NORTH AMERICAN UNION GROUP CAN BE SUED
    Judicial Watch has standing to bring a lawsuit against the Commerce Department with regard to the North American Competitiveness Council (NACC), a group that advises SPP, says the D.C. Court of Appeals.

    Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton stated today, “Now we’ll finally get our day in court and this is the essence of the argument we will make: The NACC must make its meetings open to the public and must release records relating to those meetings because it is subject to an open meetings law known as the Federal Advisory Committee Act (FACA).”

    Previously a lower court had ruled that Judicial Watch lacked standing to bring the litigation because it’s “injuries” were not redressable by the court. The appellate court rejected this argument stating:

    http://www.oilforimmigration.org/

  • ARMY D.A.V // October 17, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    carmen

    I can just see them in exile in Kenya O in a pair of old sweats and MO with no hairdresser and an afro.

    *****************************

    Why Kenya, no longer a citizen of Kenya . The only place he should be exiled to is Guantanamo with his budies.

  • Jacqlyn Smith // October 17, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    #

    d2i // October 17, 2009 at 12:27 pm

    Yes, JS, but can we afford to wait until 2010? The answer is no.

    The more time passes, the more unscrupulous and under handed laws will be passed. The more money will be spent. This needs to be stopped now.

    Undoing nine months of Executive Orders is a helluva lot easier to undo than two years, three or four years worth.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    d2i…..I don’t think we are left with a choice as the judicial system and the law officials play patty cake with our Constitutional rights and our work at civil justice…..I hope it doesn’t come down to a civil war in the streets but when push comes to shove that may be all that we Patriots are left with….

    “LIVE FREE OR DIE”

  • Paulajal // October 17, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    A lawyer in CA has to make sure that none of their partners in a law firm have EVER had dealings with anyone who is in opposition to a prospective client. Otherwise they cannot take the client. The is the ethics rule for lawyers.

  • venice // October 17, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    http://www.nypostonline.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/blank_screen_VRgK9QYpvI7vsOWaEyUxnM

    I think the title here suffices.

  • d2i // October 17, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    “It will never go away if you love this country…..it is slowly and surely being taken away from the Christians and conservatives who are in the majority at 75%!!!

    Yes it is, saddly enough. Which is why I’m advocating action to the Republican voter to take meaningful action and demand your leadership right this course. They can.

    The Republican leaders are not stupid people. Sure they screwed up, BIG TIME, regarding McCain, thereby protecting 0. It was a stupid move and they should pay for it. No question.

    Demanding the Republican leadership to lead is the responsibility of the voter. Therefore, I’m asking R’s to consider a campaign to a) force their leadership to right the course, b) hold them accountable, c) forgive their actions so as to move on quickly, and d) expose the usurper.

    btw, JS, you live in Nevada. Have you thought about running for Congress in 2010? Voices like yours, and so many other great patriots on this board, are certainly needed to run. Have you considered it?

  • Michelle // October 17, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    oldsalt77-I googled Social Security a couple of weeks ago. SS# is one to a customer they are never reissued. I haven’t got time to look it up again, running off shortly but I posted it.

  • DAR mom // October 17, 2009 at 12:38 pm

    this was on this site yesterday – it connects the dots very clearly what is the attempt to transform our country through the ground up !!!!!!!!!!!!!no trickle down – start with the babies —- they are evil and sick . please pass this around- thank you CW for your site.!!!!
    ———————————————————
    Clearly, Michelle is describing a formal linkage between the organizing effort in the school and the home, which is a great thing if we’re talking reading, writing, and arithmetic, but that’s not what the Obama’s history tells us she has in mind.

    Much work lies ahead, and it won’t be easy. But I am confident that with a new generation of outstanding leaders in our classrooms, we can make a lasting difference in the lives of our young people and a lasting impact on the life of this nation.

    There’s that “leaders” thing again, and in the classroom — and now that we know the Obamas a little, do you really believe that Michelle Obama is referring to reading comprehension when her goal is to make a “lasting impact on the life of this nation.”

    So what’s really going on here? Community organizing, that’s what — it’s what these people do. It’s like a virus — and the Obamas are carriers.

    The means to Michelle’s ends lies in her statement, “…expand effective alternative routes to certify teachers” — and just guess who just happens to have an “alternative route to certify teachers” — yup, the Obamas.

    Did you know that Barack and Michelle Obama have been operating 15 fully-staffed Alinsky training centers since 1993?

    The Obamas are operating a non-profit called Public Allies, an organization modeled upon Alinsky’s “people’s organizations.” It is operating under the watchful eye of Michelle Obama and it has a ton of money — more than $75 million per year — and an impressive list of donors. Naturally, it also receives grants from federal, state and municipal sources. Its mission has been, and is, to produce “community organizers” — baby Obamas — and its process is replicable and repeatable — continually producing more apparatchiks — they are referred to as “leaders.”

    During the campaign, Obama also ran, at the state level, a “national program for social change,” called “Camp Obama” — here is their sign-up page. The Obama Campaign’s website promised that “you’ll get the kind of experience that Barack got as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago,” and “Camp Obama is your chance to step up and become a ‘leader’ in this ‘movement’.”

    There it is again, the word, “leader.” It has a very specific meaning to these people.

    These “leaders” answer to only one person — Obama — and they provide a ready pool of “leaders” to train, new “teachers.” It’s in place. It’s a professional development entity. Is it the “effective alternative route” of which Michelle speaks? It is if Obama says it is.

    Remember the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and the “Small Schools” movement? The program focused on individual schools built around specific political themes to push students to “confront issues of inequity, war, and violence.” The teacher education programs served as “sites of resistance” to an oppressive system.

    The point of the program, said Bill Ayers in his “Teaching Toward Freedom,” is to “teach against oppression,” against America’s history of evil and racism, thereby forcing social transformation.

    Small Schools is the Obama model. It’s what they know. It’s what they believe. It’s what they’ve practiced. It’s what the have in mind for the schools.

    This is what Michelle is talking about when she says her goal is to prepare “students to succeed in this new century.”

    This bunch has been organizing since the 1960s — they’ve taken over the colleges and universities — Michelle’s essay outlines their plan to take over the primary and secondary schools — you can bet there are bills and riders to bills for the funding already working their way through the House.

    After high school is when Rahm Emanuel’s plan kicks in. In his book, “The Plan: Big Ideas for America,” Rhambo writes: “We propose universal civilian service for every young American. Under this plan, all Americans between the ages of 18 and 25 will be asked to serve their country by going through three months of basic training, civil defense preparation and community service.”

    On July 2nd, 2008, Obama spoke in Colorado Springs and hit themes of national service, foreign policy, and national security. In that vein, Obama proposed a rather extraordinary idea — that the US should spend as much money on a civilian national security force as it does on the military. (video)

    “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”

    It’s all connected. Don’t you let them get away with it. Learn to organize. The Tea Parties and 912 activities are probably a good place to start.

    If conservatives don’t organize, they win. It’s as simple as that.

  • JustMe // October 17, 2009 at 12:41 pm

    WAY O/T

    Couldn’t pass this one up for a Sat morn laugh.

  • Michelle // October 17, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    Paulajal-thank you for info re: partners in law firm easy out for the Judge-if he was coerced.

  • Jacqlyn Smith // October 17, 2009 at 12:42 pm

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    d2i // October 17, 2009 at 12:37 pm

    “It will never go away if you love this country…..it is slowly and surely being taken away from the Christians and conservatives who are in the majority at 75%!!!

    Yes it is, saddly enough. Which is why I’m advocating action to the Republican voter to take meaningful action and demand your leadership right this course. They can.

    The Republican leaders are not stupid people. Sure they screwed up, BIG TIME, regarding McCain, thereby protecting 0. It was a stupid move and they should pay for it. No question.

    Demanding the Republican leadership to lead is the responsibility of the voter. Therefore, I’m asking R’s to consider a campaign to a) force their leadership to right the course, b) hold them accountable, c) forgive their actions so as to move on quickly, and d) expose the usurper.

    btw, JS, you live in Nevada. Have you thought about running for Congress in 2010? Voices like yours, and so many other great patriots on this board, are certainly needed to run. Have you considered it?
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    d2i…..I was a public school educator for 35 years and know about the Union theft and all of the wasted spending by the feds….I would love to be in a position to run for any office where I can make a difference and am now considering running for the school board…..you must start at the bottom if we are to clean out the progressives….I don’t have the money to campaign for a Congressional seat unfortunately but thanks for the vote of confidence!

  • carmen // October 17, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    ARMY D.A.V. Yes,I can picture them both in orange jumpsuits with afros.

  • d2i // October 17, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    DAR mom – after posting that article yesterday, I went to GuideStar, a nonprofit rating type of system for the consumer. There was no rating and the information they had on Public Allies was minimal to say the least. I found the post over at Obamafile.com

    I also went to the Hyde Park Herald and did a search on Public Allies and sure enough there was an article about MO taking on the ED position through, I believe it was, U of C or Northwestern. I’d have to go back and take a look. I cached the articles.

  • Michelle // October 17, 2009 at 12:46 pm

    Our Founding Fathers on Religious Freedom
    About this Blog
    Britannica Blog is a place for smart, lively conversations about a broad range of topics. Art, science, history, current events – it’s all grist for the mill. We’ve given our writers encouragement and a lot of freedom, so the opinions here are theirs, not the company’s.
    The U.S. Founding Fathers: Their Religious Beliefs Joseph Ellis – February 23rd, 2007 – (Founders & Faith Forum)
    Although the Declaration of Independence mentioned “Nature’s God” and the “Creator,” the Constitution made no reference to a divine being, Christian or otherwise, and the First Amendment explicitly forbid the establishment of any official church or creed. There is also a story, probably apocryphal, that Benjamin Franklin’s proposal to call in a chaplain to offer a prayer when a particularly controversial issue was being debated in the Constitutional Convention prompted Hamilton to observe that he saw no reason to call in foreign aid. If there is a clear legacy bequeathed by the founders, it is the insistence that religion was a private matter in which the state should not interfere.
    In recent decades Christian advocacy groups, prompted by motives that have been questioned by some, have felt a powerful urge to enlist the Founding Fathers in their respective congregations. But recovering the spiritual convictions of the Founders, in all their messy integrity, is not an easy task. Once again, diversity is the dominant pattern. Franklin and Jefferson were deists, Washington harbored a pantheistic sense of providential destiny, John Adams began a Congregationalist and ended a Unitarian, Hamilton was a lukewarm Anglican for most of his life but embraced a more actively Christian posture after his son died in a duel.
    One quasi-religious conviction they all shared, however, was a discernible obsession with living on in the memory of posterity. One reason the modern editions of their papers are so monstrously large is that most of the Founders were compulsively fastidious about preserving every scrap of paper they wrote or received, all as part of a desire to leave a written record that would assure their secular immortality in the history books. (When John Adams and Jefferson discussed the possibility of a more conventional immortality, they tended to describe heaven as a place where they could resume their ongoing argument on earth.) Adams, irreverent to the end, declared that, if it could ever be demonstrated conclusively that no future state existed, his advice to every man, woman, and child was to “take opium.” The only afterlife which they considered certain was in the memory of subsequent generations, which is to say us. In that sense, these very blog posts are a testimonial to their everlasting life.

  • DAR mom // October 17, 2009 at 12:48 pm

    I keep saying – as far as voting is concerned – the precinct level is where the eyes need to be as well as civic leagues , school boards – etc….. you are right Jacqlyn – read the above post about the Obama connections in education and Bill Ayers was just an ” aquaintence ” …..right!

  • d2i // October 17, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    JS – I admire your humility and tenacity. If I were you I’d run for Congress to build name recognition in your district. Lots of newcomers do just this. It’s a way to introduce yourself to the voters. And you never know, they might be ready for a retired school teacher who has integrity and speaks well. Just a thought.

  • ARMY D.A.V // October 17, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    d2i // October 17, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    Now, the way I see it, you Republican’s have the Party by the kahoonas. You, the voter, have the power now. You, the voter, can correct this course now

    ***************************

    Your just kidding , right………

    Where are there any Republicans with kahoonas?,

    All I see on the hill are bunch of NWO, globalists. Marxists, Socialists and communists.

  • Jacqlyn Smith // October 17, 2009 at 12:53 pm

    Founding Father’s Quotes on Christian Heritage

    Disclaimer: Someone recently pointed out that some of these quotes are unconfirmed. Check out this page to see the full story on these quotes. I have put (UC) next to a quote if it is unconfirmed. That’s not to say the others are confirmed either as I have not personally researched them myself.

    (UC) “The highest glory of the American Revolution was this – that it connected, in one indissoluble bond, the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity.” – John Quincy Adams
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    “The Bible is the cornerstone of liberty. A student’s perusal of the sacred volume will make him a better citizen, a better father, a better husband.” – Thomas Jefferson
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    “The Bible is the rock on which our Republic rests.” – Andrew Jackson
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    “In my view, the Christian religion is the most important and one of the first things in which all children, under a free government, ought to be instructed.” – Noah Webster
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    (UC) “We have staked the future of American civilization upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.” – James Madison
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    (UC) “He who shall introduce into public affairs the principles of primitive Christianity will change the face of the world.” – Benjamin Franklin
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    (UC) “It can not be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians, not on religions but on the gospel of Jesus Christ.” – Patrick Henry
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    “The religion which has introduced civil liberty is the religion of Christ and His apostles…to this we owe our free constitutions of government.” – Noah Webster
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    “Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed the conviction that these liberties are the gift of God?” – Thomas Jefferson
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    “Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almight God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly implore His protection and favor.” – George Washington
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    “Suppose a nation in some distant Region should take the Bible for their only law book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited…. What a utopia, what a paradise would this region be.” – John Adams
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    “Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” – John Adams

  • Jacqlyn Smith // October 17, 2009 at 12:56 pm

    Sorry the page to look at the full story of the quotes is not accessible….I’m not sure what happened to the link but it was there several months ago!

  • oldsalt77 // October 17, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    Paulajal………………………………………

    Do you know if personal Social Security information can be accessed after a person is dead? I am intensley interested in determining if anybody was drawing benefits using the account number that Soetoro says is his. Susan Danials is on record of saying that the SS number listed for Obama was issued to a person who was born in 1890. So I am asking how a SS number which was probably issued in 1936, be issued to Obama? He wasn’t born yet.

  • SueK // October 17, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    JustMe // October 17, 2009 at 12:41 pm

    JustMe,

    My mascara’s now on my knees….

    That was the funniest thing I’ve seen in a long time.

    Let’s just hope the dude didn’t get into a car and try to drive!

    Thanks for the laugh! :)

  • carmen // October 17, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    JS : These quotes and many more like them are what has made this country what it is or was. I believe we may be headed for revolution again! God bless America we need the favor of God as much as we ever have.

  • joyceaz // October 17, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    Jacqlyn Smith // October 17, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    Here’s the latest at Orly’s site……

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    Important

    Posted on | October 17, 2009 | No Comments

    I called Lord Mockton at spp institute. His aid Bob Ferguson said that they deal only with global warming and will not be involved. These aids are often placed in key positions to sway the leaders. Can someone reach Lord Mockton bypassing this sold out aid.

    In re to the clerk, who worked for Bob Bauer, Obama’s lawyer and now someone got this person position with judge Carter…………
    *****ATTENTION*****

    ISN’T BOB BAUER,…. anita dunns husband?

  • d2i // October 17, 2009 at 1:05 pm

    Army D.A.V. said

    “Your just kidding , right………

    Where are there any Republicans with kahoonas?,

    All I see on the hill are bunch of NWO, globalists. Marxists, Socialists and communists”

    —-
    You read my statement wrong. I’m saying the Republican VOTER has the leadership on the hill by the kahoonas. And no, I’m not kidding.

    No Party is anything w/o the voter. The R voter knows their leadership colluded. However, they remain in a box and the voter is one vehicle that can get them out of the box.

  • Jacqlyn Smith // October 17, 2009 at 1:06 pm

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    joyceaz // October 17, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    Jacqlyn Smith // October 17, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    Here’s the latest at Orly’s site……

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Important

    Posted on | October 17, 2009 | No Comments

    I called Lord Mockton at spp institute. His aid Bob Ferguson said that they deal only with global warming and will not be involved. These aids are often placed in key positions to sway the leaders. Can someone reach Lord Mockton bypassing this sold out aid.

    In re to the clerk, who worked for Bob Bauer, Obama’s lawyer and now someone got this person position with judge Carter…………
    *****ATTENTION*****

    ISN’T BOB BAUER,…. anita dunns husband?
    *****************************************

    Joyceaz…you’ve got it right….THUGS to say the least!!

  • d2i // October 17, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    joyceas – yep. Bauer is Dunn’s husband.

  • d2i // October 17, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    my apologies – meant joyceaz

  • live oak // October 17, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    @joyceaz at 1:04pm,
    Yes Bauer is Dunn’s husband.

  • Paulajal // October 17, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    d2i, you have got to get over the idea that voting is going to change things. First of all, they have everyone programed to vote for their party’s incombant. Secondly, they control the vote with fraudulent schemes including easily changed voting machines, and dead voters. Many in Congress do not believe that they have anything to be worried about, and they are probably right. When push comes to shove people for for their party.

  • Jacqlyn Smith // October 17, 2009 at 1:10 pm

    d2i……………….I think many voters have dropped out of both parties now and want nothing to do with either…..I have always been an Independent….I don’t believe in party voting….always voted for the man!! Alan Keyes was my selection in 2008….only true conservative and someone who believes in the Constitution and our rights as a free society…..also my hero when it comes to fighting abortion and all of its evil!!!

  • oldsalt77 // October 17, 2009 at 1:11 pm

    It would seem that if we could get a name other than Obama to put after the number we would have something which in itself is a GLARING possibility of wrongdoing by Soetoro.

  • Paulajal // October 17, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    OldSalt, I don’t know, sorry. That would be useful info.

  • JustMe // October 17, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    Sue K,

    Did you look like Tammy Faye?

    I usually don’t post things like that, but I couldn’t resist. I actually found it on a legal blog site.

    After that last fall, I would hope someone would have called a taxi for him. I would have.

  • carmen // October 17, 2009 at 1:16 pm

    The libs are very afraid. They should be, there are more of us than there are of them. If Dr. Orly’s case was insignificant they would not have gone to this much trouble. You can bet on it ..

  • SueK // October 17, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    JustMe // October 17, 2009 at 1:12 pm

    Hi JustMe,

    Tammy Faye looked better than me…trying to fix it now.

    Rather than a taxi, I think someone may have called an ambulance. Funny how he somehow got the idea that he needed more beer in his completely inebriated state.

    The mind works in strange ways. Or not :)

  • DAR mom // October 17, 2009 at 1:20 pm

    Alan Keyes is an incredible man – his ability to think on his feet ( no teleprompter ) is stellar
    his intellect is so far superior to Obama / he makes the fraud look like a buffoon and super clown !
    If he were our President ( Keyes ) how proud I would be ….. what color do you see – none , you see the man and his greatness .

  • oldsalt77 // October 17, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    d21………………………………
    If a person once worked for Obama’s lawyer,and is now working for Judge Carter I am thinking of “conflict of interest” which should be brought to Judge Carter’s attention forthwith.

  • d2i // October 17, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    Paulajal – fixing elections has been going on for 230 years. No question the voter gets played again and again.

    BUT, the leadership does listen to their constitutents. I lobbied for years and still do from time to time, and I can assure you that I got much more done by bringing one othe members constituents to a meeting than if I were alone.

    I’ll never forget a Senate Finance meeting where a bill came up for discussion related to farmers. When the Chairman of the Finance Committee asked to see the hands of those in the room who favored the bill, few went up. When he asked to see the hands of those who opposed the bill, nearly the whole room got up. They were all farmers. Did it have the impact. You betcha. The bill was defeated in committee, and word spread to the House and it was defeated there as well.

    Good or bad bill? I don’t recall. But my point is members do listen to their contitutents.

  • DAR mom // October 17, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    Conflict of interest has been forgotten – our system is wrought with conflict of interest and individuals hell bent on seeking power at all costs – above honesty , without principle . If we could only un-cuff our tied hands ……I thin this may be happening , there is just so much to fight …we have to pick a target and finish then move to the next .

  • venice // October 17, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    JustMe,

    Thanks for that Sat. laugh. Poor guy’s brains are pickled before he even has a chance at life.

  • Pete // October 17, 2009 at 1:39 pm

    CW,

    http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/ssn-fraud-tied-to-obamas-ssn/

    “This is what Susan Daniels found:
    I located the social security number for Barrack Hussein Obama and found that it was issued between 1977-79 in the State of Connecticut.
    The social security number was used by Barrack Obama for numerous addresses in Chicago and it was the only social security number he used.
    I investigated further and verified that the number was issued in Connecticut by running the numbers before and after Barrack Obama’s and found them also to have been issued in Connecticut between 1977-79.
    Further, the number assigned to Barrack Obama may have been assigned previously, as it appears to also be associated with someone born in the year 1890.”

    Social security number and laws:
    http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/ssnchron.html

    First, no one gets re-assigned a SSN. Interestingly, in 1977/1978 the laws changed so that everyone in a household that got foodstamps/support needed a SSN, and in 1978 you had to prove you were a citizen, with age and identity.

    “Obama’s mother returned to Hawaii in 1972 and remained there until 1977, when she relocated to Indonesia to work as an anthropological field worker.”

    This can’t just be a coincidence! Madelyn Dunham then becomes the parent, and she must have needed to get an SSN then for the dependent.

  • oldsalt77 // October 17, 2009 at 1:44 pm

    Michelle…………………………..
    If there is some way of putting a name for the SS number. It is important to determine if someone was drewing benefits from 1955 on,and the name of that person. How can we get the name? He/she would be 119 years of age and very likely already dead.

  • JJ // October 17, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    oldsalt77 // October 17, 2009 at 1:22 pm

    d21………………………………
    If a person once worked for Obama’s lawyer,and is now working for Judge Carter I am thinking of “conflict of interest” which should be brought to Judge Carter’s attention forthwith.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Yes, but it’s being reported as a ‘courageous’ move by Carter??
    ‘Splain please.

  • Jacqlyn Smith // October 17, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    “Obama’s mother returned to Hawaii in 1972 and remained there until 1977, when she relocated to Indonesia to work as an anthropological field worker.”

    This can’t just be a coincidence! Madelyn Dunham then becomes the parent, and she must have needed to get an SSN then for the dependent.

    *****************************************
    Pete…also….if he were born in Hawaii as he claims he would have been assigned a SS# then and getting one in 1977 would show he didn’t get it in 1961 when he should have…..my daughter was born in 1993 and that is when she got here number!!! Can someone research to see if he got a different number in 1961 when he was born???

  • Linda from NY // October 17, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    As far as Carter’s new protege is concerned, I think Dr. Taitz is pursuing the question the only way she can at this point. She must find out if this appointment was made before or after the trial began. In either case, IMHO, it does not matter.

    The question might be: Has the court been compromised by this appointment or not?

    Let’s say, Yes. What does this appointment say for the “going forward” argument? Can we still proceed if the good Judge Carter’s research is provided by someone bias against our side? Does this mean Judge Carter has biased the court to relieve himself of this burden, and he thinks this is one sure way to get himself “off the hook?”

    Let’s say, No. Do we think Judge Carter is an intelligent man who is keeping his friends close and his enemies closer? Can he effectively adjudicate in spite of this appointment? Has he already appeared to be biased toward one party or the other or did he treat both parties equally? Do we think he wants his decision kicked back to his court upon appeal?

    While we cannot pretend to know Judge Carter’s mind, we can have an opinion.

    What say you?

  • twe // October 17, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    **NEW POST**

  • carmen // October 17, 2009 at 1:51 pm

    Pete, Government welfare and food stamps are a matter of public record. There is coming a shaking in this country, everything that can be shaken will be, only that which cannot be shaken will remain. In Ga. there has been much welfare fraud, young mothers using different SS numbers and addresses to collect multiple checks. Hawaii is to the best of my understanding the largest recipient of welfare in the US……The truth will remain it cannot be shaken

  • oldsalt77 // October 17, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    Pete………………….

    I have something in mind that I want to pursue, but I first need to get a name associated with the number being used by Obama. If the original person to have that number was born in 1890 he would have began drawing benefits in 1955,or later.I need to find the name of anyone who was drawing benefite in 1955 using that specific number. Once we have a name we can extrapolate forward. At the same time we can hang another noose over Soetoro’s head. We need to know if benefits were actually paid to someone using that number

  • Paulajal // October 17, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    JS, in those days you didn’t automatically get an SSN for your child at birth. The IRS required it years later. I know my children were all various ages when we were forced to get them SSNs to put on our tax returns.

  • Jacqlyn Smith // October 17, 2009 at 2:07 pm

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    oldsalt77 // October 17, 2009 at 2:02 pm

    Pete………………….

    I have something in mind that I want to pursue, but I first need to get a name associated with the number being used by Obama. If the original person to have that number was born in 1890 he would have began drawing benefits in 1955,or later.I need to find the name of anyone who was drawing benefite in 1955 using that specific number. Once we have a name we can extrapolate forward. At the same time we can hang another noose over Soetoro’s head. We need to know if benefits were actually paid to someone using that number
    ********************************************

    Oldsalt…..You may need someone who works in Social Security to find this out……I’m not sure you could get this information through FOIA???

  • JJ // October 17, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    Jacqlyn Smith // October 17, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    JS, I am 59 years old..didn’t get my SS until graduating from HS…husband is 61, got his right before graduation…newborn babies weren’t give SS until about the early 70’s??

  • Jacqlyn Smith // October 17, 2009 at 2:08 pm

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    Paulajal // October 17, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    JS, in those days you didn’t automatically get an SSN for your child at birth. The IRS required it years later. I know my children were all various ages when we were forced to get them SSNs to put on our tax returns.
    ******************************************

    Do you know how far back it went that one got a number at birth??? I know in 1993 it was true cause that is when my daughter was born!

  • Jacqlyn Smith // October 17, 2009 at 2:09 pm

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    JJ // October 17, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    Jacqlyn Smith // October 17, 2009 at 1:49 pm

    JS, I am 59 years old..didn’t get my SS until graduating from HS…husband is 61, got his right before graduation…newborn babies weren’t give SS until about the early 70’s??
    ******************************************

    Okay….thanks JJ….I guess that idea didn’t help!

  • JJ // October 17, 2009 at 2:17 pm

    Linda from NY // October 17, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    She must find out if this appointment was made before or after the trial began.

    October 17, 2009 by John Charlton

    UNIMAGINABLE, UNBELIEVABLE, OUTRAGEOUS MOVE
    by John Charlton

    (Oct. 17, 2009) — In a stunning blow to the impartiality of the American Judicial system, Federal Judge David O. Carter, who is hearing the case Barnett vs. Obama, has just hired a lawyer who works for a law firm where Robert F. Bauer, one of Obama’s top lawyers is a partner. And that, just days before the Oct. 5, 2009 hearing on the Motion to Dismiss, in which his demeanor radically changed, according to Dr. Orly Taitz, esq., lead counsel for the Plaintiffs

    And that, just days before the Oct. 5, 2009 hearing on the Motion to Dismiss,

  • d2i // October 17, 2009 at 2:28 pm

    JJ // October 17, 2009 at 1:47 pm

    Old Salt – “If a person once worked for Obama’s lawyer,and is now working for Judge Carter I am thinking of “conflict of interest” which should be brought to Judge Carter’s attention forthwith.”
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Yes, but it’s being reported as a ‘courageous’ move by Carter??
    ‘Splain please.
    —————-

    Old Salt – I concur with your observation regarding the recent temporary hiring of the the Bauer attorney to clerk for Judge Clark. This would rise to a serious question of conflict of interest. Very serious, which, IMHO, does not bode well for the suit.

    Now, if I read the article correctly, this attorney will clerk through 9/10 – a year. One could read into this a bit, that the Judge is seriously considering allowing the judicial process to move forward and that a compromise of some sort may have been struck which gives the green light to hiring this attorney temporarily. Don’t read this in a manner in which I know this to be certain. I don’t. This may just be one way to read the tea leaves. Just a guess.

    But it is a serious conflict of interest and I’m confident Judge Clarke is more than aware of this.

  • d2i // October 17, 2009 at 2:31 pm

    ooops! Judge Carter not Clark or Clarke.

    Honestly haven’t been keeping up with all of the twists and turns of this suit. Am not as familiar with the players as I am the suit.

    And I can’t imagine why this would be a courageous move by Carter. Why is someone characterizing it this way? Do tell.

  • carmen // October 17, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    It is most likely that the phony SS numbers that were used for O were from people that were already deceased. So as not to show up with another person who already had the number. Like on the SS death index retrievale.

  • JJ // October 17, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    carmen // October 17, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    I always wondered why McCain wouldn’t “bring it” during the election.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Ever heard of ‘designated driver’??
    Mccain was the ‘designated candidate’!

  • Patriot Dreamer // October 17, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    venice // October 17, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    “O’s ‘blank screen:
    ‘Why he’s losing credibility”
    http://www.nypostonline.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/blank_screen_VRgK9QYpvI7vsOWaEyUxnM
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    venice, did you notice the name of the author of that article? Lynn Forester de Rothschild.

  • Jacqlyn Smith // October 17, 2009 at 2:47 pm

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    Patriot Dreamer // October 17, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    venice // October 17, 2009 at 12:34 pm

    “O’s ‘blank screen:
    ‘Why he’s losing credibility”
    http://www.nypostonline.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/blank_screen_VRgK9QYpvI7vsOWaEyUxnM
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    venice, did you notice the name of the author of that article? Lynn Forester de Rothschild.
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    PD and Venice….I met Lynn when she came to Vegas to rally for Palin…..she once was a big DemoCRAP but jumped off the wagon when the FRAUD won the primaries….I believe she used to support HRC as well but jumped off that wagon as well when Palin came along…..she is one smart woman….now see’s the DemoCRAP party for what it is…..Socialist—-Marxist—-bordering on Communism…..GO LYNN!!!

  • Linda from NY // October 17, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    Jacqlyn: My daughter was born in 1986. One of the forms I was given in the hospital was from the IRS to be used to apply for an SS#.

    My intuition tells me pp’s grandmother got him an SS# later in life because he needed it to apply for a job. She had access to them so where else would she get one for an illegal alien? So she took one from a deceased person. She never thought anyone would question it or even look into it.

    JJ: I missed that…thanks for pointing that out to me. I had read Dr. Taitz was questioning it, that’s all.

  • Margie // October 17, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    That was a funny clip with the drunk. If someone came into a place I work in that state of mind, I would not just send him back onto the streets. Doing the common good for society must be out dated, we are screwed as a nation.

  • Michelle // October 17, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    oldsalt77-I have no idea how you could go about getting that information, possibly call SS itself to verify a SS#-some companies do that as part of a verification process.

  • tom // October 18, 2009 at 7:05 pm

    Illegal alien, that’s why he loves them so much!!!!!!!!!!! O yea, he got his Nobel Peace Prize in a Cracker Jacks box, just like algor and the peanut farmer carter!

  • Duncan // January 26, 2010 at 2:29 pm

    As they will say…..

    “With the Devil U may be….BUT~There will
    come a time HE WILL SELL U !”

    It’s only TIME….& WE WILL SEE THE NAKED
    TRUTH OF ALL THESE !!!
    TIME…..

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