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New York To Be First Organ Donor Opt-Out State?

MICHAEL GORMLEY | 04/27/10 05:05 PM | AP

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ALBANY, N.Y. — A New York assemblyman whose daughter is alive because of two kidney transplants wants his state to become the first in the nation to pass laws that would presume people want to donate their organs unless they specifically say otherwise.

Assemblyman Richard Brodsky believes the "presumed consent" measures would help combat a rising demand for healthy organs by patients forced to wait a year or more for transplants. Twenty-four European countries already have such laws in place, he said.

If he succeeds, distraught families would no longer be able to override their loved ones' decisions to donate upon their death. And eventually, hospitals would be able to assume the deceased consented to have his or her organs harvested, unless the person refused in writing.

Brodsky's interest in organ donation is personal; his 18-year-old daughter, Julianne "Willie" Brodsky, received a kidney four years ago from a donor who was struck by lightning and an earlier transplant from her mother.

"People's survival should not rest on acts of God alone," said the elder Brodsky, a Westchester County Democrat.

Advocates say the availability of healthy donor organs is low just about everywhere nationwide, where 106,000 people are on a waiting list that averages three to four years for each type of organ.

But serious emotional, medical and ethical concerns worry families, who currently can stop organ harvests even if their loved ones agree to donate. So New York will move slowly, Brodsky said.

The state Department of Motor Vehicles says that 95 percent of the 2 million donors on New York's donor registry come from driver's licenses. The shortage occurs because the need is constant and many donors sign up when they are young, meaning any organ harvest can be years away.

Presumed consent, opponents say, could force someone to become a donor against their will. It also might lead patients viewed as prospective donors to worry about how hard a medical team will work to save them if there is a greater benefit to harvesting the organs.

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Arthur Caplan, director of the Center for Bioethics at the University of Pennsylvania, knows those arguments.

"There is a keen interest in trying to do something about the shortage of organs," he said, noting a consent effort surfaced last year Delaware, but stalled. "Just redoubling efforts to get people using donor cards isn't working."

He said advances in medicine, a proliferation of transplant centers and longer life spans are driving demand, while supply is fairly static. Advocates say more than a dozen people on the national waiting list die each day.

"I think about it a lot," said Kathe LeBeau, 51, of Latham, N.Y. She's had kidney disease since she was 45, is on dialysis and has been waiting three years on the list for a kidney donation. "I can't hardly wait for the call."

Presumed consent, especially compared to another possible option of creating a legal organ market, can work in the United States as it has successfully in Europe, Caplan said.

"I have been arguing since 1983 for presumed consent ... Spain, Austria, and Belgium shows success and it works and people don't feel they aren't given a fair chance to say 'no,'" he said.

Still, he said a system that defaults to harvesting everyone's organs will be a hard sell, and prompt misconceptions.

A 2008 bill in Delaware would have created an opt-out organ donation program but never got out of committee. Opponents called it an intrusion into people's privacy that treated organs as commodities.

New York's presumed consent would come in stages. The primary bill, which has strong support, would end what Brodsky said is a common practice by upset relatives who override the checkoffs of driver's licenses and other documents executed by deceased donors.

This would enable hospitals to more quickly prepare a body for organ removal.

"We've lost literally thousands of organs in the confusion," Brodsky said.

The next step is far more controversial. In a separate bill, drivers would check a box saying they don't want to donate organs. If the box is not checked, it is presumed the driver wants to donate. Brodsky says he would revisit the opt-out bill if the primary bill is made law.

Some national organ donor organizations refuse to take positions on the opt-out proposal. So far, neither bill has a sponsor in the state Senate, also controlled by Democrats. The session ends June 21, but remains dominated by the late state budget that was due April 1.

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On the Net:

New York State Organ and Tissue Registry:

http://www.health.state.ny.us/professionals/patients/donation/organ/

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AP Writer Randall Chase contributed to this report from Wilmington, Del.

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NYCartist   6 minutes ago (12:35 PM)
Please see Not Dead Yet on organ donations and how some misuse has happened to disabled people, called "harvesting organs" ... www.notdeadyet.org
rt6913   2 hours ago (10:17 AM)
This is the most egregious bill I have every heard of. I cannot believe for one minute that ANYONE would believe this is appropriate. It is my body and/or my families body and I will decide what happens. Assembly Brodsky is a myopic jerk - who are you to authorize something like this.
While I too believe it would be nice to increase donations you do things like that through education and awareness programs - not by stealing organs from people as they die that didn't have the forsight to sign up to not to allow it to happen. What is wrong with this man?????

If you want to know what's wrong with the NYS government I think we just found the poster child. We never have a budget - we are bleeding red ink by the Billions of dollars - and his time is occupied with Frankenstein thoughts - VOTE THIS IDIOT OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
Xav7   3 hours ago (10:04 AM)
The fact that this man's child is an organ recipient is enough proof that he cannot be impartial.
thinkingwomanmillstone   4 hours ago (8:28 AM)
I have no problem with organ donation. You can use my body for food for all that I care. I think the provision that prevents relatives from overriding a persons expressed wishes is great. My initial response is that opt out is an invasion of privacy and personal rights but since this occurs after death I don't think this is true. Dead people have no rights. The article doesn't address the issue of people who don't have driver's licenses. Does this apply to children who aren't of legal age to give consent. We don't live in a perfect world and cannot legislate for every problem. I wish everyone would donate willingly, but am ambivalent about this kind of legislation.
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RefreshingTaste   13 hours ago (11:25 PM)
Boycott New York, I would not vacation there, if I die in an accident, New York will carve me up for parts!
renalNP   15 hours ago (10:07 PM)
That's pretty interesting. I knew someone who was struck by lightning and killed 4 years ago in NY. I wonder if her kidney went to this girl? That would be great.
I am 100% for organ donation. I hate to see organs buried in the ground that could have been used for transplant. Most people who die in the hospital are ruled out for organ donation due to cancer or sepsis, or some other reason. The big ticket holders are the accident victims. In the hospital in NY, it is law that the nurse must call the organ donation if death looks to be within an hour or so, or if someone is to be terminally extubated. In my experience in the ICU over a course of 2 years, only one or two patients had organs that could have been harvested.
I think this is a good law. I hope it passes. I would love to see more dialysis patients get transplanted and live normal lives once again.
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kynycmbp   18 hours ago (6:22 PM)
I'm not opposed to a opt-out policy per se, but I think that this is very misguided attempt to do a good thing, but the wrong way and at the worst possible time politically.

My sister died (suddenly) a few years ago and it has always been a great comfort to me to know that her organs are helping other people live. Jenn would have loved that because she loved helping other people. She didn't check the organ donor section of her card, but when they asked our family what she would have wanted done, we agreed immediately to harvest the organs. It's what she would have wanted. None of us had any doubts on that.

But now, too many people are freaked out about government making invasive decisions about their lives and livelyhoods for this to be pursued. Death is a touchy subject and from the other posts here, you can see that people are concerned about abuses and exploitation. We don't need to have protestors decrying organ donation death panels.

It would be nice if more people opted to donate their organs, but I think we should scrap the "opt out" idea and focus on more education to address the publlic's reservations about organ donation.
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childeharr   19 hours ago (5:26 PM)
Listen, I love the state of New York, but this is ridiculous! Death, blood donation, resuscitation methods, and organ donation are very private decisions and should never be determined by governments. A person's body is his or her own possession. If a person dies, and has not indicated that he/she wants to be an organ donor, he/she should be buried, hands down. I support volunteerism and progressivism, but this is an overreach. Our bodies are one of the few things that we have that is truly ours. We can't start pretending that people's bodies can automatically be farmed out for organ donation, if they have not opted into such a decision. Organ donation is important, but not in lieu of our personal rights over our own bodies.

This is a watershed moment for proautonomy/small government groups, like the Tea Party. Where are they when things like this happen? We have the government exacting ordinance over individual privacy with the Arizona immigration law (they are nowhere to be found). We have the government exacting ordinance over people's organs. Where are they? Nowhere to be found. These "small government" groups really prove who they are (anti-Obama racists) when they neglect real government overreach.
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childeharr   19 hours ago (5:24 PM)
Listen, I love the state of New York, but this is ridiculous! Death, blood donation, resuscitation methods, and organ donation are very private decisions and should never be determined by government. A person's body is his or her own possession. If a person dies, and has not indicated that he/she wants to be an organ donor, he/she should be buried, hands down. I support volunteerism and progressivism, but this is an overreach. Our bodies are one of the few things that we have that is truly ours. We can't start pretending that people's bodies can automatically be farmed out for organ donation, if they have not opted into such a decision. Organ donation is important, but not in lieu of our personal rights over our own bodies.

This is a watershed moment for proautonomy/small government groups, like the Tea Party. Where are they when things like this happen? We have the government exacting ordinance over individual privacy with the Arizona immigration law (they are nowhere to be found). We have the government exacting ordinance over people's organs. Where are they? Nowhere to be found. These "small government" groups really prove who they are (anti-Obama racists) when they neglect real government overreach.
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sheikwil4   20 hours ago (4:21 PM)
This is so stupid, you shouldn't have to opt out of something you never volunteered to do in the first place. Plus why should I opt out of being a organ donor when I can't be one in the first place because I have Lupus. duh.
InspiredByTruth   20 hours ago (4:16 PM)
If this every became law certain hospitals would become known spots where the rich could go to pay hospital staff to maybe not give the best care when a certain blood type came in, and no doubt the victims would primarily be the poor and minorities. No thanks.
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LuckyStella   21 hours ago (3:47 PM)
When my father died in a car crash six years ago, we consented to donate his organs. It was a comfort to the family--especially my mother and grandmother--to know that he was giving others the gift life even though his was taken.

I applaud Brodsky's efforts to bring this issue to the fore. Even if his legislation does not pass, he has raised awareness--something New York State can't afford to do during it's current fiscal crisis. I hope folks talk to their families and loved ones and decide to register.

Me? I have always been a registered organ donor--I won't need these parts after I'm gone. And, if I had my druthers, I'd get dumped at the Body Farm for research. I want to do good, whether it's in this life or the next...and with my track record, it'll be the next!
Damaven   21 hours ago (3:29 PM)
My reasoning against this is somewhat stated in the article. What about those doctors that might see an advantage to saving a "particular person's" life so they don't have much value for yours. There are too many ways to take from people already, dead or alive. Folks talk about police states and unfair immigration laws - HA - what's more unfair to kill me for a buddy of someone with tons of money. No Way. I don't live in NY, but they talk about other states and it could soon come to mine. No Way, No Way.
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Amishguy   21 hours ago (3:27 PM)
This may be the worst idea I've ever heard. There are TONS of other things we should be doing before we even consider this drastic measure.

How about spending a little money on promoting this cause? Like anything else, let's raise awareness and get people to VOLUNTEER if they so choose.

To literally take your body parts from you with out your consent is the most insane thing I can think of. You think they call us Liberals fascists, socialists and everything else now, wait till they bite on this! Honestly I may even agree with them on this bit!
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Misbah Ali   23 hours ago (2:09 PM)
umm.. i dont like this law.... i kno im probably sounding like an a-%&*( but im just not ready to have my organs donated after i die :(... am i the only one who feelys this way??

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quindy   16 hours ago (8:54 PM)
No, you are not.