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Gays given equal adoption rights

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Couples in registered partnerships now have equal rights with married couples on the issue of adoption

Danish parliament passed a vote giving equal adoption rights to couples in registered partnerships yesterday, but without the support of the government.

The opposition, together with breakaway members of the government’s Liberal Party, voted in favour of the legislation which will allow all same sex couples in registered partnerships the same adoption rights as married couples from 1 July.

Danish homosexuals could previously adopt as individuals or adopt the children of their partner under the step-child adoption laws. Figures from Statistics Denmark show that of the 712 step-child adoptions in 2007, 103 were from couples in a registered partnership.

The Liberal-Conservative government was left in a difficult position, being forced to introduce a legislative bill without backing it.

Justice minister Lars Barfoed said last week that the government would remain firm in its commitment to vote against the bill.

‘I think children as a rule need a mother and a father,’ Barfoed said.

The minister also felt the new rights would be mainly symbolic, especially in the area of foreign adoptions, as not many countries will allow their children to be adopted by homosexuals.

‘That’s just the way it is and I think it will create some expectations that we won’t be able to meet,’ he said.

Denmark now follows the lead of other Nordic countries such as Iceland, Norway and Sweden in allowing equal adoption rights for all couples.

The new legislation was welcomed by the Danish National Association of Gays & Lesbians (LGBT Denmark), who called it a ‘big step’ for gay rights in Denmark.

‘The most important thing is that in the future it won’t be rigid legislation but a qualified adoption authority that will make the decision about who would make a suitable adopter,’ said LGBT Denmark’s Hans Christian Seidelin.
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kagemedchutzpah  - It pleases me greatly   |2010-05-05 09:58:37
That this has come to pass. Congratulations to the opposition for bringing Denmark one step closer to providing everyone equal rights, regardless of their background.
Zaparooni  - Draw The Line Somewhere   |2010-05-05 13:13:19
I totally believe in equal rights. I am a Male who was adopted at birth. Sadly as a young boy my adoptive Father died... I missed my Father greatly, and part of that, I understand now that I am older (and a Father) was the lack of Male role model in my life. I, oh so passionately believe, that a growing child needs the input from Both a Male & Female guardian - who of course are inputting both sides of the whole. As I said I believe in Equal Rights (& am a supporter of this especially iro Gay Rights) , but the line must be drawn somewhere, a ruling such as this could be seen simply as a victory for the movement whilst little real empathy is given to the children involved. I don't doubt that a same sex partnership won't give a child all the love and support that he/she requires, and in many cases a great deal more than the traditional partnership, BUT adoptive children can be delicate individuals who in many cases require above all the input from a Male & a Female and the differing perspectives afforded by such. From a Societal point of view, same sex parents would not be currently viewed as 'normal', in time it will become more so, but it's so a little sad that the first 'batch' brought up in such a manner won't be. And that's just not fair... So the Gay Rights movement win, but seemingly rather selfishly, you know, with little regard for these young people who've already suffered a blow, a blow that this ruling seems to care or understand little about..... It was rare, but I was teased in the school yard about having parents who cared so little about me that they abandoned me.... I shiver at the thought that adoptees may face cruel homophobes who may pick on the sexuality of their same sex parents too. All this would be very hard to bare.
Davide  - Imagine yourself   |2010-05-05 17:47:04
I don't understand how anyone can even remotely think that a boy who gets raised by a couple of homosexual men will have the same probabilities as any other boy of growing homosexual himself or of developing mental disorders. He will have many more probabilities to have this happening.

This is often solved by either saying that there is nothing bad if he becomes homosexual, because homosexuality is as natural a condition as heterosexuality, or by saying that being raised by a couple of homosexual men is better than being raised in an orphanage. Personally I find these answers totally lame and plain wrong.

To me it's so obvious that this law is aimed at the adults only, to provide them with these supposed "equal rights" and to make the society look more "advanced", blatantly ignoring that there is another subject involved whose rights might as well be taken into account, or dismissing the point in a brisk manner by saying that it's good for the boy too.

Just try to imagine being a young boy and seeing your father and your male mother kissing each other and stuff, imagine seeing your male mother behaving like a woman, and tell me that this stuff isn't likely to screw up your mental growth. But I mean it, don't just "reason" about this, try to actually picture *you* in that situation, only then you might understand what I mean, because we are talking about deeply rooted natural instincts here, which easily lead to mental insanity if messed with.

We are really straining the meaning of equal rights here, and these things will just make more moderate people move towards backwards positions than towards liberal positions.
Constantin  - zaparooni   |2010-05-05 18:03:18
So kids raised in orphanages don't get to have role models?
George   |2010-05-06 01:12:50
Zaparooni, what about all the children without parents waiting to be adopted or put in foster homes? Shouldn't we have empathy for them, too? Why deny a child a right to a loving home led by a same-sex couple?

In California where I'm from I know many people who were raised by same-sex couples, and they're the same as anyone else.
dianecarole  - Difficuot subject   |2010-05-06 08:49:17
I agree with Zaparooni that children need to grow up in a 'normal' household, and that there are so few children to adopt, that straight couple should take first place.
I do not agree that adopted children need to feel a stigma. You have been chosen, fought over, your parents jumped through hoops to have you, so you are the privaliged ones. Your birth mother choose to give you a better life, by giving you away, rather than 'drag' you up when you were not really wanted. I think this is a very noble and selfless act, which I applaud.
I grew up with a step father who hated, bullied and molested me, so I would rather have been adopted. 'I never wanted you, just your mother' ' you are a mistake of your mothers past' 'I wasted 6 years on you, now its my turn to have some fun now' 'I never wanted another child, but you just f**king well came'....they may have been said in the heat of the moment, but I still remember them, and they still hurt me, 35 years later...I would rather have been adopted to someone who was prepared to give me love.
Zaparooni   |2010-05-06 15:26:03
Constantin:- Kids in Orphanages; sure they have role models, The Carers who work there (& beyond that the likes of Orlando Bloom, Mother Theresa, etc, etc). I had Role Models, what I tried (& seemingly failed) to articulate was the close bonded 'one on one' role model that a parent provides. Have you been to an orphanage..? What I noticed having been to such myself was just how diluted and 'non-constant' the role-models were.
George:- Of course we have empathy for children in Foster Homes, but do realise that there are more Adoptee Parents awaiting their chance to adopt - than available children, what holds everything back is the bureaucracy.
dianecarole:- You are spot-on with your comments iro the massive efforts that Adoptive Parents make. However iro "I do not agree that adopted children need to feel a stigma".... and so they shouldn't, but remember we're talking about very young children here who don't have the experience to rationalise or understand in a way that us adults are able to.
foreigner  - dianecarole   |2010-05-07 07:05:55
I shed a tear for you. Really sad that you had to endure that. There are really few kids who have a good rewarding relationship with a step-parent. I think any responsible mum or dad with kids ought to put their kids first. Once the kids are adults and able to take care of themselves, one can then focus on oneself. I am in the processing of divorcing my wife after I heard her on tape calling my daughter a 'stupid little whore'. I made her apologize, and then asked my 8 year-old daughter if we could kick out her stepmother. My little princess was so happy when I informed the distraught woman she had 5 minutes to clear out. There is absolutely no reason why my daughter should suffer any more after losing her mother to a tragic road accident when she was only 2 months old. I am gonna give her the best possible upbringing a dad can. I have given up on the twisted idea of finding a mother figure for my daughter. My ex was so amazing with my daughter in my presence. But in my absence, the hidden in-house surveillance cameras revealed a different tale.
Heidi aka MissFuzzy  - Newsflash   |2010-05-07 10:06:57
Um, newsflash, Davide: Not every homosexual couple is comprised of a butch male figure and a femmey La Cage Au Folles stereotype.

I cannot imagine how this law could be detrimental to anyone, and am very pleased to read about its passing.
dianecarole  - foreigner   |2010-05-07 15:42:40
Thanks for understanding, I'm sorry to hear of your wifes passing, and I hope that you and your daughter find someone wonderful to share your life with. I know it is hard when you have children, but you also want the best of adult life.
I can't have children, so adoption is a sensitive subject for me...and there are not enough children to go around.
If it is the choice of a childrens home or a loving home the choice is easy. The staff no matter how hard they try can never replace a loving home (no matter what sexuality).
I don't think children raised in homosexual homes are going to be anything other than normal, perhaps a little more tolerant than the rest of us....
But with so few children up for adoption, I still vote for the 'normal' family if possible.
Davide  - Great point   |2010-05-08 20:55:30
Well Heidi, as you apparently are much into sarcasm, I have to say that if not all homosexual couples have a male and a female role, then this changes everything, I'll have to change my mind about whether a boy's mental growth could be affected by having both parents males, no matter how much they are butch or femmey whatever.

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