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Buchanan complains that with Kagan, Supreme Court will have too many Jews

May 14, 2010 1:40 pm ET by Media Matters staff

From Pat Buchanan's May 14 syndicated column (emphasis added):

Indeed, of the last seven justices nominated by Democrats JFK, LBJ, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, one was black, Marshall; one was Puerto Rican, Sonia Sotomayor. The other five were Jews: Arthur Goldberg, Abe Fortas, Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Stephen Breyer and Elena Kagan.

If Kagan is confirmed, Jews, who represent less than 2 percent of the U.S. population, will have 33 percent of the Supreme Court seats.

Is this the Democrats' idea of diversity?

But while leaders in the black community may be upset, the folks who look more like the real targets of liberal bias are white Protestants and Catholics, who still constitute well over half of the U.S. population.

Not in living memory has a Democratic president nominated an Irish, Italian or Polish Catholic, though these ethnic communities once gave the party its greatest victories in the cities and states of the North.

What happened to the party of the Daleys, Rizzos and Rostenkowskis?

And not in nearly half a century has a Democratic president nominated a white Protestant or white Catholic man or woman.

[...]

If Kagan is confirmed, the Court will consist of three Jews and six Catholics (who represent not quite a fourth of the country), but not a single Protestant, though Protestants remain half the nation and our founding faith.

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    • Author by soze169880 (May 14, 2010 1:42 pm ET)
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      But remember, support for Israel absolves all conservatives ever of anti-Semitism!
      I really, really hope the right runs with this one.
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      • Author by mari2jj2970 (May 14, 2010 9:45 pm ET)
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        It is obvious that Buchanan, and I do not mean the Babe, is a quota counter of the first order. This surely smacks of pure anti-Jewish venom. Who would have thought it, but alas, Pat has let the cat right out of the bag. Yep, a died-in-the- wool anti-Semite. Poor. poor prejudiced guy! I am beginning to realize that prejudice is prpbably the root of his anti-Obama rants also.
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        • Author by captain_mike (May 14, 2010 10:37 pm ET)
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          Prejudice is the root of most of them. I'd like to believe it was not so, but Jimmy Carter (who lives in the South and has been exposed to southern conservative hate politics all his life) was absolutely right. The bulk of the venom, hatred and vehement opposition to all things Obama boils down to simple bigotry.

          And I do mean "simple".

          Buchanan is just a neanderthal. He hasn't a clue that counting the color (and shape) of noses and toeses is just not the way to assess how fair the court is going to be to Americans in general.
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      • Author by Lakrosse (May 14, 2010 10:14 pm ET)
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        you are aware that Buchanan, a paleo-con, HATES Israel, and calls the White House and Capitol "Israeli-occupied territory," right?
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      • Author by Lakrosse (May 14, 2010 11:21 pm ET)
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        did you miss the Buchanan hates Israel, and calls DC and the Capitol "Israeli-occupied territory?"
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    • Author by Major Tom (May 14, 2010 1:45 pm ET)
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      Does anyone like Buchanan speaking for them? Just wondering.
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    • Author by thaneb (May 14, 2010 1:47 pm ET)
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      Marvelous example of ginning up jealousy to turn people against one another.
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      • Author by tuersm3856 (May 16, 2010 7:34 am ET)
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        We all love our nation being Balkanized by race-consciousness, though Buchanan is a bit too overt for my tastes. Can't he just say something like, "I love the diversity of the Supreme Court and I think a Jewish female, appointed by our first 6% black president, is an excellent addition."? That would keep racial, gender and religious differences in the backs of everyone's minds in a polite, acceptable way.
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    • Author by nerzog (May 14, 2010 1:59 pm ET)
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      I would argue that the Court has too many White Christian Males on it now.
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      • Author by political_left-religious_right (May 14, 2010 2:29 pm ET)
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        I agree, nerzog, and I'm one of them.

        I would also guess that complete and utter fools make up a significant portion of our country--roughly 25-30% (the ones who still approved of Bush, the ones who get their news from Fox, the ones who deny global warming, use any demographic you like). By Buchanan's logic, we should have two or three fools on the Supreme Court to represent them.

        Not me, thanks. I'm fairly bright, but I want people on the Supreme Court who are much smarter than I am!
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        • Author by spooky3 (May 14, 2010 2:40 pm ET)
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          Does anyone else find it, er, questionable, that the very people who are now concerned about "diversity" and the extent to which the demographics of the court are fair or reflective of the population, didn't have those concerns when there were fewer than two women on the court, no Latinos, etc.? I'd like to say they were silent then, but many of them weren't -- in fact, they argued loudly against concerns raised about the gross under-representation of these groups.

          More Republican hypocrisy.
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          • Author by spooky3 (May 14, 2010 2:41 pm ET)
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            And may I add, that, given that women are more than 50% of the population and of college graduates, they are still underrepresented on the court, yet I don't think I've heard a single Republican pointing this out today.
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          • Author by magnolialover (May 14, 2010 2:42 pm ET)
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            Also, weren't a lot of the folks trying to make this argument now talking about how Sotomayor was an affirmative action hire just to have a Latina on the court?
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            • Author by congero6189599 (May 14, 2010 3:02 pm ET)
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              Yes I seem to remember that and Pat Buchannan pushing that same line.
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              • Author by spooky3 (May 14, 2010 3:42 pm ET)
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                Pat also didn't seem bothered by the appointment of the first five Catholic justices, either.
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                • Author by Conchobhar (May 14, 2010 6:28 pm ET)
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                  Right.

                  And those particular Catholics have made me rethink the joy I felt when, as a senior in a Washington DC Catholic high school, I watched the first Catholic president inaugurated.
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                • Author by congero6189599 (May 14, 2010 6:28 pm ET)
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                  Perhaps you'll remember this from Pat Buchanan during the Sonia Sotomyor hearings:
                  "...The whole thing is worth watching, but I was especially struck, not just by Rachel's composure in the face of ignorance and bigotry, but by Bachanan's transparency. Rachel asked, for example, for his thoughts on 108 out of 110 Supreme Court justices being white. Buchanan replied, "White men were 100% of the people that wrote the Constitution, 100% of the people that signed the Declaration of Independence, 100% of the people who died at Gettysburg and Vicksburg, probably close to 100% of the people who died at Normandy. This has been a country built basically by white folks..."

                  Here is the link if you want to watch the whole 16min. interview ,i suggest everyone to do so,it is quite revealing.

                  http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_07/019115.php

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                  • Author by skatscan5624 (May 15, 2010 9:34 am ET)
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                    Holey crap, Of course he conveniently who built a huge portion of the railroads in the country and never mind the unpaid slave labor that did so much to make this country grow.
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                  • Author by congero6189599 (May 15, 2010 12:18 pm ET)
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                    What heck is happenening I changed my picture days ago and have not changed it back and when I go to change it again it still post my old picture. WTF!?!
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        • Author by USNA Ancient (May 15, 2010 3:31 am ET)
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          Me, too, but at least " ... smarter than I ..." rules out buchanan and I had such respect for the Jesuits at Gonzaga ... oh, well, one failure does not a catastrophe make !
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        • Author by skatscan5624 (May 15, 2010 9:32 am ET)
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          I think the Supreme Court "fool quota" is well represented by Thomas, Scalia, and Olito, Thank you very much.
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      • Author by New Frontier (May 14, 2010 2:52 pm ET)
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        If I was Buchanan, I'd worry more about finding some Black Republicans for the House and Senate. Right now, I believe their percentage of zero does not reflect the general population.
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        • Author by onementalgiant (May 15, 2010 9:32 am ET)
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          Thought I had better correct you before you go to far NF:

          Number of Black Republicans Running for Office Skyrockets

          http://www.newpatriotjournal.com/Articles/Number_of_Black_Republicans_Running_for_Office_Skyrockets
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          • Author by fantagor (May 15, 2010 5:20 pm ET)
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            RUNNING for office is a far cry from ELECTED TO office.

            Learn the different lest you look the buffoon once again.

            Randy
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          • Author by ScienceBuff (May 15, 2010 10:54 pm ET)
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            Only 32 nationwide? Almost all of whom have yet to be chosen by their party to be the official candidate for the general election? I'm underwhelmed. Let's see how many reach the general election ballot before we go patting anyone on the back.

            The Democrats have 39 African Americans sitting in the House RIGHT NOW. I'm just guessing, but I'll bet it's not unreasonable to believe that there were at least a couple of hundred who were running at the same level as the republican 32 your article is crowing about. If one or two of the AA republicans are actually elected it'll be mentioned over and over on the news. The Democrats will elect dozens of AAs and it'll simply be taken for granted.

            Clearly, New Frontier has a long way to go before you can reasonably say he went too far
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            • Author by Tbone Slickens (May 16, 2010 7:57 am ET)
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              Swing and a miss. Of course you missed the ball because you can't see the stitches!

              It's a start for the Republicans whom I'll agree have an image problem with certain minorities. What you're missing is that the AA community is starting to break out of the "mold" the democrats have poured them into for fifty years. As their middle class numbers expand and more in the AA community start to own and run businesses you'll see more and more defecting to the Republican party.

              If there is one good thing about Barry it is that he will/has inspired more AA's to get involved politically and break out of the mold.

              What makes democrats wet their britches? The thought of huge numbers of AA's taking charge of their future and moving to the Republican party! You keep holding on the "old" dream. We're starting anew and it begins in November.
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              • Author by ScienceBuff (May 16, 2010 11:02 am ET)
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                Oh, come on. The large majority of African Americans have been middle class or better for decades. That societal position isn't some recent development creating your mythical political awakening. What's more, that group has been the most politically active segment of AAs all along. They've been voting for Democrats they can recognize which party has been supportive of issues that have been of particular interest to them and which party has actually worked against those issues.

                The idea you try to create, that AAs are moving toward republicans because of some intellectual awakening, is very condescending. It suggests that AAs haven't known what they were doing for the last several decades. It's insulting, and very transparently so.

                Face it. That number of 32 candidates for nomination really is pathetic. You know perfectly well that it will be remarkable if more than a couple of them actually get on the ballot for the general election. It'll be more surprising if any are elected. That article, and especially its title, is a joke.
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                • Author by congero6189599 (May 16, 2010 2:52 pm ET)
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                  T-bone slickens condescending post and arrogance is the perfect example of why Afro-Americans are not flocking to the republican party.
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              • Author by spooky3 (May 16, 2010 6:03 pm ET)
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                "Image problem"? You mean the fact that it's crystal clear to most of us, "certain minorities" included, that the Republican party is by and large opposed to policies promoting fairness and meritocracy, in favor of the status quo? That "image problem"?

                An image problem exists when the reality is quite different from the shared perception. That is not the case here.

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    • Author by bintx (May 14, 2010 2:04 pm ET)
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      Pat Buchanan, bigot extraordinaire, still keeping it classy.

      [I'm wondering what Pat thinks of his little sis, Bay, converting to Mormonism back in the 70s. It's got to rankle.]
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      • Author by nerzog (May 14, 2010 2:16 pm ET)
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        Bay's a Mormon? I never knew. I've always wondered what leads a person to adopt a wacky religion like Mormonism or Scientology as an adult. It's one thing to be born into it, but to willingly accept such nonsense once you've acquired the power of rational thought? I just don't get it.
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        • Author by bintx (May 14, 2010 2:40 pm ET)
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          I didn't know, either, until I looked her up the other day. I was SHOCKED. I always assumed that she was Catholic like Pat.

          It's a wonder her bigoted Big Bubba continues to have anything to do with her.
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          • Author by USNA Ancient (May 15, 2010 3:33 am ET)
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            buchanan must be so proud to have a fellow nazi, pedophile-protecting, prada-loving poop in the Vatican !
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        • Author by Lubideaux_Trit (May 14, 2010 3:34 pm ET)
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          Sir,

          Please define "wacky".

          As far as religious myths go, you have Athena springing from Zeus's head, fully grown and armed, you have the sun god Ra being born out of a giant lotus flower, and later masturbating to create the air and moisture, you have Smith reading gold plates through a tophat and giving birth to a religion, you have the christian god causing a virgin to give birth to (basically what amounted to) himself, and then later causing himself to be tortured and executed, and you have the thetans, and their whole untimely death by volcano thing. Degrees of "wacky" maybe?

          L
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          • Author by christopher howard (May 14, 2010 4:53 pm ET)
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            I tend to agree. All religions are equally unproven in their assertions about gods and the afterlife. Some may be less objectionable in their teachings, or have followers who are more rational in how their religion leads them to interact with the world, but Mormonism is no less crazy in its supernatural assertions than any other religion.
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          • Author by skatscan5624 (May 15, 2010 9:39 am ET)
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            I think South Park did a great job revealing the wackiness of the Mormon religion.
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_About_the_Mormons%3F
            And to compare it to wackier religions that have been dead for over a thousand years doesn't make a solid case that Mormonism isn't wacky.
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    • Author by magnolialover (May 14, 2010 2:07 pm ET)
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      Is he kidding me? In order to make this pertinent, he'd have to go back, and take into consideration ALL of the former and current justices to see what their religious make up was (and, it doesn't matter anyway, since we are not a theocracy), and THEN tell us what the real percentage of Jews are on the SCOTUS.

      Charles E. Hughes Baptist
      Howell E. Jackson Baptist
      Hugo L. Black Baptist
      Anthony M. Kennedy Catholic
      Antonin Scalia Catholic
      Clarence Thomas Catholic
      John Roberts Catholic
      Edward D. White Catholic
      Frank Murphy Catholic
      Joseph McKenna Catholic
      Pierce Butler Catholic
      Roger B. Taney Catholic
      William J. Brennan Catholic
      Sherman Minton Catholic (convert after retired)
      Oliver Ellsworth Congregationalist
      Nathan Clifford Congregationalist; later Unitarian
      Joseph R. Lamar Disciples of Christ
      James C. McReynolds Disciples of Christ
      Alfred Moore Episcopal
      Bushrod Washington Episcopal
      Byron R. White Episcopal
      David H. Souter Episcopal
      Edward T. Sanford Episcopal
      George Sutherland Episcopal
      Harlan F. Stone Episcopal
      Horace H. Lurton Episcopal
      James F. Byrnes Episcopal
      James Iredell Episcopal
      James Wilson Episcopal
      John A. Campbell Episcopal
      John Jay Episcopal
      John Marshall Episcopal
      John Rutledge Episcopal
      Melville W. Fuller Episcopal
      Morrison R. Waite Episcopal
      Owen J. Roberts Episcopal
      Peter V. Daniel Episcopal
      Philip P. Barbour Episcopal
      Potter Stewart Episcopal
      Robert H. Jackson Episcopal
      Rufus W. Peckham Episcopal
      Salmon P. Chase Episcopal
      Samuel Chase Episcopal
      Sandra Day O'Connor Episcopal
      Stephen J. Field Episcopal
      Thomas Johnson Episcopal
      Thurgood Marshall Episcopal
      Ward Hunt Episcopal
      William H. Moody Episcopal
      Willis Van Devanter Episcopal
      Henry Baldwin Episcopal
      Gabriel Duval Huguenot
      Abe Fortas Jewish
      Arthur J. Goldberg Jewish
      Benjamin N. Cardozo Jewish
      Felix Frankfurter Jewish
      Louis D. Brandeis Jewish
      Ruth Bader Ginsburg Jewish
      Stephen G. Breyer Jewish
      William H. Rehnquist Lutheran (ELCA)
      Charles E. Whittaker Methodist
      Frederick M. Vinson Methodist
      Harry A. Blackmun Methodist
      Lucius Q. C. Lamar Methodist
      John McLean Methodist-Episcopal
      David Davis Not a member of any church.
      Brockholst Livingston Presbyterian
      George Shiras, Jr. Presbyterian
      John Catron Presbyterian
      John M. Harlan Presbyterian
      Joseph P. Bradley Presbyterian
      Lewis F. Powell, Jr. Presbyterian
      Mahlon Pitney Presbyterian
      Robert C. Grier Presbyterian
      Samuel Blatchford Presbyterian
      Smith Thompson Presbyterian
      Stanley Matthews Presbyterian
      Thomas Todd Presbyterian
      Tom C. Clark Presbyterian
      Warren E. Burger Presbyterian
      William Johnson Presbyterian
      William O. Douglas Presbyterian
      William Strong Presbyterian
      William Paterson Presbyterian
      John Blair Presbyterian; Episcopal
      Noah H. Swayne Quaker
      Benjamin R. Curtis Unitarian; then Episcopal
      Harold H. Burton Unitarian
      Horace Gray Unitarian
      Joseph Story Unitarian
      Oliver W. Holmes Unitarian
      Samuel F. Miller Unitarian
      Wiley B. Rutledge Unitarian
      William Cushing Unitarian
      William H. Taft Unitarian
      David J. Brewer Protestant
      Earl Warren Protestant
      Henry B. Brown Protestant
      James M. Wayne Protestant
      John H. Clarke Protestant
      John McKinley Protestant
      John Paul Stevens Protestant
      Levi Woodbury Protestant
      Robert Trimble Protestant
      Samuel Nelson Protestant
      Stanley F. Reed Protestant
      William B. Woods Protestant
      William R. Day Protestant

      List of justices and their religions (again, as if it matters).

      Overall, Jews represent 6.4% of ALL SCOTUS justices over the years (7 Jews have sat on the bench, total). By contrast, over 32% of justices have been Episcopalians, when only 1.7% of the country is within that religion.

      Numbers can be found here on this website if anyone cares to check it out. Only 10% of justices have been Catholic, compared to 24% of the US population, so why don't we have more Catholics on the bench?

      Of course, again, this is all ridiculous, because religion shouldn't, and doesn't play into the laws of our country.
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      • Author by hugacat7374 (May 14, 2010 2:24 pm ET)
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        You understand that the right is trying to turn the country into a theocracy, don't you?
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        • Author by magnolialover (May 14, 2010 2:33 pm ET)
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          I do understand that, which is funny, because then, we'd be just like the countries that they don't like, mainly, Iran.
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          • Author by spooky3 (May 14, 2010 2:43 pm ET)
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            He's strangely silent on the fact that studies have shown that perhaps 10% of the population is agnostic, atheist, etc. -- and these studies likely underestimate the %, since there is so much social disapproval of "outing" oneself on this position -- but how many USSC justices have been openly agnostic, atheist, etc.?
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            • Author by magnolialover (May 14, 2010 2:45 pm ET)
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              I'm an atheist, and am hardly represented anywhere within politics in the United States.
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              • Author by nerzog (May 14, 2010 3:20 pm ET)
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                It may very well be the most under-represented minority.
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              • Author by Refresh (May 14, 2010 5:26 pm ET)
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                I think there are people within politics who are atheists, many probably, but like spooky3 said, "there is so much social disapproval of 'outing' oneself on this position." You may have closet atheists like you have closet gays. To bad there are no atheist night clubs to spot a Republican coming out of or RentAtheistBoy.com websites to catch a conservative soliciting.
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                • Author by pilotx (May 14, 2010 6:59 pm ET)
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                  I'm betting the prez is an agnostic. I'll bet you a fat man he reveals this after he gets out of office.
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                  • Author by christopher howard (May 14, 2010 7:33 pm ET)
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                    "It [atheism] may very well be the most under-represented minority."

                    Polls show it is the most mistrusted. I'll add my voice to the list of proudly atheist progressives on this site.
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                  • Author by Refresh (May 15, 2010 4:32 pm ET)
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                    Probably either an empirical agnostic or an agnostic theist. I can see the President saying I believe God exists, but do not know God exists. I could also see the President saying, We do not have enough evidence to know whether God exists or not. He could be a combination of both empirical agnostic and agnostic theist. Either way, I think there is much greater chance of him being one than ever revealing he is one, he even if it is to reveal it only to himself. I think many people are some type of agnostic (empirical, theist, pragmatic, agnostic atheis), but either do not know it or will not admit it. For example, many people who believe that God exists, know the difference between believing and knowing, yet on that one particular subject, they will not admit to not knowing because of stigma, fear, etc. Like wise, many people who believe that God does not exist, will not admit they do not know for sure whether God exists or not because it weakens their argument in a debate. Some simply don't know there is a type of agnostic for which they fit, such as "believing, but knowing" or "not knowing for a fact one way or the other."
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                  • Author by AC (May 16, 2010 2:01 am ET)
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                    Frankly, I don't care what an elected official's religion is. I had somebody ask me during Obama's campaign if I thought he was Muslim. I told them I don't care, because this isn't a theocracy. Anytime I hear a politician going on and on about their religion i just start ignoring that politician altogether.
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            • Author by overmars jr. (May 16, 2010 6:07 am ET)
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              Actually, it's closer to 16%.
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        • Author by bilbo_dies (May 14, 2010 4:56 pm ET)
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          You understand that the right is trying to turn the country into a theocracy, don't you?

          Only if it allows them to remain in power forever.

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      • Author by Rasta Farian (May 14, 2010 4:22 pm ET)
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        Thanks for the enlightening post. It makes Buchanan look that much more foolish...
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      • Author by brighthopa7588 (May 14, 2010 8:45 pm ET)
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        well done
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      • Author by USNA Ancient (May 15, 2010 3:38 am ET)
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        shouldn't ... yes ! dosen't ... ? ... the current SCOTUS majority seems bent on warping that !
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    • Author by mickeba (May 14, 2010 2:09 pm ET)
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      This guy is so repulsive! It bothers me that he still regularly appears on MSNBC, despites saying these disgusting things. MSNBC treats him like he's some eccentric, harmless Uncle, when he's a totally racist, anti-semitic creep.

      mickeba
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      • Author by soze169880 (May 14, 2010 2:12 pm ET)
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        Every time some rightie responds to my criticism of Fox with "BU' WHA'BOUT MSNBC AN' CNN?!!!" and I can only respond that I don't like either of those channels either, and they always seem kind of stunned. For CNN it's because they hired Urk Urkson, and for MSNBC it's because they hired this Hitler-fellating d!ckwart.
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      • Author by coldteablues19577325 (May 14, 2010 2:49 pm ET)
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        "This guy is so repulsive! It bothers me that he still regularly appears on MSNBC, despites saying these disgusting things. MSNBC treats him like he's some eccentric, harmless Uncle, when he's a totally racist, anti-semitic creep."

        mickeba - I'm pretty sure it's simply for all the shi*ts and giggles he provides. Ever really sit and listen to him? I love it when his voice goes up an octave or two when he gets wound up! LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!
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      • Author by bilbo_dies (May 14, 2010 4:59 pm ET)
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        It is human nature that everyone has to watch a train wreck.

        That can be the only reason to have him on, people watch just to see the next crazy thing he is going to say.

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      • Author by papa bear3 (May 14, 2010 9:22 pm ET)
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        . . .sort of a political Ed McMahon Yaooooooooo
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    • Author by spacemoth (May 14, 2010 2:12 pm ET)
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      wtf?! why does anyone give this unrelenting bigot a platform to spew his hateful, unapologetic venom? it amazes me that msnbc allows him be a contributor. if they want to seem not so "librul" surely they can find another rightie. for god's sake i'd rather have a full hour of ron christie than one utterance from this cretan.
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      • Author by coldteablues19577325 (May 14, 2010 2:50 pm ET)
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        "wtf?! why does anyone give this unrelenting bigot a platform to spew his hateful, unapologetic venom? it amazes me that msnbc allows him be a contributor. if they want to seem not so "librul" surely they can find another rightie. for god's sake i'd rather have a full hour of ron christie than one utterance from this cretan." --spacemoth

        But he's so much fun ... especially when he gets himself all wound up and his voice goes up a couple of octaves. Tee hee!!
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        • Author by spacemoth (May 14, 2010 3:55 pm ET)
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          i do have to agree with that. and his face get even more squished up ha!
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    • Author by rtejon (May 14, 2010 2:15 pm ET)
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      Maybe it's because white Protestants, the de facto ruling class during most of the nation's history, have had much less incentive among their ranks to pursue greater justice as a life goal?
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    • Author by David2010 (May 14, 2010 2:17 pm ET)
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      I'll say this for Buchanan: He doesn't try to hide his bigotry or use code words or dog whistles. He's a forthright bigot,
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      • Author by christopher howard (May 14, 2010 7:34 pm ET)
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        True that. I almost respect Buchanan for being more forthright and less crypto in his prejudices.
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      • Author by lede39571545 (May 15, 2010 8:50 am ET)
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        Perhaps Pat Buchanan may not realize he is a bigot. He was raised to feel entitled as a white person, especially a male. He is simply expressing the views he was taught growing up in the middle years of the previous century, prior to and during the civil rights movement. He is ignorant as to the progress made in the US or chooses to turn a blind eye to the realities of today. He makes his own unhappiness. So be it.
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    • Author by congero6189599 (May 14, 2010 2:31 pm ET)
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      Why doesn't this surprise me from someone who admired Hitler and thought we fought on the wrong side during WWII. What surprises me is he still is presented by MSNBC as mainstream with a POV we should listen too.
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    • Author by cst (May 14, 2010 2:34 pm ET)
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      He thinks there's too many Jews on the court... but I'd bet he's one of those guys who has a "good Jewish lawyer" on retainer.
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      • Author by skatscan5624 (May 15, 2010 9:47 am ET)
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        I dunno, A good Irish Catholic lawyer can be quite a barracuda in court too.
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    • Author by political_left-religious_right (May 14, 2010 2:38 pm ET)
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      If Kagan is confirmed, the Court will consist of three Jews and six Catholics (who represent not quite a fourth of the country), but not a single Protestant, though Protestants remain half the nation and our founding faith.

      Well, Pat, me boy, if you're displeased about there being no Protestants on the Supreme Court, then why didn't you take the matter up with Reagan/Bush/Bush, who put Catholics Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts on it? Something tells me you weren't objecting at the time, which makes your complaining about now seem just a little hollow.
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      • Author by spooky3 (May 14, 2010 10:42 pm ET)
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        Don't forget A. Kennedy, also Catholic and appointed by Reagan.
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    • Author by shaggles (May 14, 2010 2:40 pm ET)
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      How many Catholics?
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    • Author by shaggles (May 14, 2010 2:41 pm ET)
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      Our founding faith? We have no founding faith.
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      • Author by magnolialover (May 14, 2010 2:44 pm ET)
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        Exactly. And these jokers keep forgetting that a lot of our Founding Fathers were deists. Just finished reading Franklin's autobiography a short while ago, and he addresses this directly. As in, he thought religion foolish, and stopped going to services early on in life because the preachers were just charlatans.
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        • Author by skatscan5624 (May 15, 2010 9:48 am ET)
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          that's why I don't go to church. I hate being in a room full of hypocrites.
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      • Author by wookie (May 14, 2010 3:06 pm ET)
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        Sometimes I am tempted to start a movement declaring Sasquatch our official belief but I think it might catch on too well.
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        • Author by nerzog (May 14, 2010 3:24 pm ET)
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          There's probably as much evidence for the existence of Yeti as there is for Yahweh. I'm just sayin'...
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      • Author by bintx (May 14, 2010 4:04 pm ET)
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        Exactly . . . and I'm a Christian. The founders SPECIFICALLY determined that there would be no state religion.

        Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination.

        -Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, in reference to the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom
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    • Author by New Frontier (May 14, 2010 2:43 pm ET)
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      Pat: take solace in that it won't have too many atheists or agnostics.
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    • Author by voltaire (May 14, 2010 2:52 pm ET)
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      His anti-semitism, which is well known, boggles the mind. What is more mind boggling, that this horrible excuse for a person gets air time and is considered a legitimate journalist.
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    • Author by dss (May 14, 2010 2:55 pm ET)
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      YEAH!!! What really bothers me is neither the republicans nor the democrats ever...I say EVER...put a Croatian-American on the Court!! That proves the bi-partisan bias, which is outrageous.
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      • Author by Rasta Farian (May 14, 2010 4:20 pm ET)
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        YEAH!!! And when will we ever see a Bisexual Mexican-Japanese-Irish-Czech-American quadriplegic dwarf hermaphrodite on The Court?!

        Too much partisan politics!

        ;-)
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    • Author by wonderdog15 (May 14, 2010 3:23 pm ET)
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      Obama chose a Jew. I thought that he was a Jew hating radical Islamist? Oh, right, I forgot to read the Glenn Beck bulletin to all Beckerheads: This week Rush and the Right is going with Jew Baiting, not Radical Islamist Baiting. Good to keep our Memes in the proper context.
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    • Author by Lizinbklyn (May 14, 2010 3:32 pm ET)
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      Don't forget that Buchanan worked in the Nixon White House . .

      Nixon had a pathological hatred for Jewish people (google it)!
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    • Author by Space-Pedestrian (May 14, 2010 3:46 pm ET)
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      I have very mixed feelings about Pat Buchanan. Sometimes he is infuriating and other times he is very congenial and has some nice perspective and background. But god knows that anyone on the right cannot use the word Jew in any context without being raked over the coals by the PC police. Oddly enough, one gets the feeling that it is Obama who has had it with our affiliation with Israel. Jewish voters have buyers remorse with him.
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      • Author by congero6189599 (May 14, 2010 4:22 pm ET)
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        Spoken like a true space pedestrian. WTF does the PC police have to do with this other than you wanting to take a snipe at the POTUS. Was Buchannan giving us some nice perspective and background or was he just being the anti-semite Hitler admiring bigot that he is?
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        • Author by bilbo_dies (May 14, 2010 5:06 pm ET)
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          Space-Pedestrian crossed over from an alternate reality.

          A reality where Obama is muslim and Buchanan actually makes sense.

          He obviously isn't part of this reality.

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      • Author by benjr (May 14, 2010 6:16 pm ET)
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        As a Jewish voter I can tell you that I have no buyer's remorse concerning his Israel policy. There are plenty of valid criticisms concerning President Obama, but his treatment of Israel is not one of them.
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        • Author by srichardson (May 14, 2010 9:26 pm ET)
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          Referring to spacemans input, isn't it really strange that the right wing nutjobs hear something from one person and take it as fact. Spaceman probably knows one Jew who mentioned that he was unhappy with Obama and his administration and that somehow became all Jews are having buyers remorse. I wish I could live in a fantasy land where if I didn't like the way things were going I could just make up lame a$$ stories that made me feel more in control.
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      • Author by nativeofsf (May 15, 2010 1:23 am ET)
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        How is it after reading your words, SpacedPee, one can note a transparently-hovering PB above your words? You're merely baiting others, as PatsyBee does, with more of that covert antiSemitism.
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    • Author by Rasta Farian (May 14, 2010 4:16 pm ET)
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      This is one of those times where a Nazi/Hitler reference just might be appropriate.

      ...nope: can't do it. I can't sink myself to the level of Glenn Beck dickishness...
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    • Author by Martha (May 14, 2010 4:22 pm ET)
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      I would like to see a First Nations nominee.

      Not ONCE has there been one even nominated to SCOTUS and since the country was theirs in the first place, you would think that this representation would be critical!
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    • Author by zamfir273114 (May 14, 2010 4:26 pm ET)
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      He's right. Jews make up 2% of the population; however, seem to be over-represented in the Supreme Court.
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      • Author by congero6189599 (May 14, 2010 4:30 pm ET)
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        Yea leave it up to that radical muslim america hating POTUS to appoint a jew. You cons shickle the tit out of me. lol.
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      • Author by papa bear3 (May 14, 2010 9:35 pm ET)
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        . . .and in teaching, in science, in the arts, in journalism, in research and design, in medicine, in literature, in fashion etc...
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    • Author by j238 (May 14, 2010 4:50 pm ET)
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      So, Pat Buchanan's objection to Elena Kagan is that she is Jewish.

      Obviously that's a disgrace. Surprising he'd be so up front about that.
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      • Author by congero6189599 (May 14, 2010 5:58 pm ET)
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        Yea, what is America coming to when you can't even get your hate-on without MMFA or the PC police(as space pedestrian called it)calling you on it.
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        • Author by christopher howard (May 14, 2010 7:38 pm ET)
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          "Surprising he'd be so up front about that."

          Pat Buchanan? No. He's always been a somewhat upfront anti-semite and even, to an extent, a Nazi defender.
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    • Author by progressive zeppelin 13 (May 14, 2010 4:52 pm ET)
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      Well, this this is the same guy who said World War 2 wasn't Hitler's fault.
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      • Author by skatscan5624 (May 15, 2010 9:52 am ET)
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        That's right Churchill was the aggressor in Patland.
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    • Author by Don Quixote (May 14, 2010 4:57 pm ET)
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      Buchanan is the MLK of uber-rich, super-reactionary, aging white males. They're so oppressed after centuries of favored status in a system of uneven power relations that was basically an affirmative action program for guys like Buchanan and their heirs!

      Cry me a river Pat!
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    • Author by Romario (May 14, 2010 7:11 pm ET)
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      Grandpa Buchanan fails to tell us why any SC nominee's religion is relevant to their ability to perform the duties of a SC justice. Is there some sort of religious requirement that I missed?
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    • Author by Sharpe (May 14, 2010 8:14 pm ET)
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      Typical BS from buchanan but now, he will be lucky enough to have some of the dumb@$$ liberals who read fake books like the israel lobby support these antisemitic ramblings - the same people on the left who would have crucified buchanan for his arguments a decade ago are the ones who will defend these very same comments now - pitiful. It shows that the left can be just as stupid and bigoted as the right at times.
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      • Author by wootton_752714 (May 15, 2010 4:08 pm ET)
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        Hold on, who on the left is claiming that there are too many Jews on the Supreme court?

        I feel you may be getting confused between anti-semitism and criticism of Israeli policy.
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    • Author by srichardson (May 14, 2010 8:43 pm ET)
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      I honestly do not see how religion has any role in picking the Supreme Court Justice. I doubt that the democrats nominated these people for the bench bc of their religious affiliation. I'm sure the democrats are nominating people based on their experience and intellect. But I know, all the right wing nuts are going to b!tch and moan bc there isn't the right kind of religious person nominated. They will say Obama is prejudiced against the white protestant. The right wing has a big problem with the seperation of church and state if we are dealing with their religion. But if another religion gets a little too powerful in their view they throw a hissy fit. Once again I see this as the far right wants America to look just like them, rich and white. The rest of us can go to hades.
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    • Author by goonhee9633 (May 14, 2010 9:55 pm ET)
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      This guy has gone off the deep end. MSNBC needs to cut him loose. Who even knows what mysterious point he is trying to make.
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    • Author by little poncho (May 14, 2010 10:08 pm ET)
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      When patty is on the air, I just hit the remote, case closed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    • Author by TheSarge (May 15, 2010 12:42 am ET)
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      I suppose he wants more Nazis on the supreme court.
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    • Author by 4teepee (May 15, 2010 12:55 am ET)
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      Buchanan doesn't understand. You can only have too many white Christians--not anybody else. The hypocrisy is breathtaking!
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    • Author by doggeddem (May 15, 2010 1:35 am ET)
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      And what exactly is the percentage of women in the US population compared to representation on the court? He's back to his anti-semitic bigoted self. Why is he still on MSNBC? He is a pathetic racist, bigot. Enough already.
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    • Author by shag11 (May 15, 2010 3:00 am ET)
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      When will an asian be nominated? I am black and love diversity.
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    • Author by shag11 (May 15, 2010 3:14 am ET)
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      That MSNBC tolerates this clown is shameful. I love Rachael Maddow, but stopped watching her cause she would regularly have on "Uncle Pat," a rabid and unabashed racist.
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      • Author by 612chris (May 15, 2010 4:04 am ET)
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        His time has come and gone. Why anyone in the media would cover him is
        lazy journalism.
        He got his start in 1968 in the Nixon White House.
        Time for the media to ignore his ideas, as they haven't changed since 1968. He offers nothing new to any issue.
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      • Author by 612chris (May 15, 2010 4:40 am ET)
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        Why anyone in the media is still giving this relic time is beyond me.
        He started over 40 years ago in the Nixon administration, and his
        ideas haven’t changed since then.
        There are so many new voices in the media, that why people even care what this relic thinks is a waste of any air time or print.
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      • Author by skatscan5624 (May 15, 2010 9:53 am ET)
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        I think that Pat Buchannan makes for a great "strawman" for Rachel's show.
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    • Author by 612chris (May 15, 2010 3:59 am ET)
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      Why does anyone in the media care about what this man says?
      He got his start too many years ago with the Nixon Whitehouse.
      Nothing he ever says offers anything new. We can expect his ideas to be the same as they were in 1968.
      It is past time for him to be regarded as a relic.
      612 Chris
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    • Author by dav1dr (May 15, 2010 9:28 am ET)
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      Based on his past comments you might think Buchanan would be happy that a white person has been nominated for the court. As he has clearly shown time after time: in the mind of Pat there are white people and there are Jews.
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    • Author by skatscan5624 (May 15, 2010 9:29 am ET)
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      What's the matter, Six Catholics aren't enough for you? That's a much bigger percentage of the population. Gotta give Obama credit though, He's trying to catch up with the female population. More than 50% of the population but only 33% of the court.
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    • Author by Mrwilson1 (May 15, 2010 10:07 am ET)
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      I think it would be best if only people with no religion were put on the Supreme Court.

      Be that as it may, what does her religion have to do with anything, and does Buchanan, like the nuts from Fox TV think that one person alone runs the Supreme Court?
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    • Author by HeeNow (May 15, 2010 10:30 am ET)
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      I'm more concerned about geographic makeup of the court once Kagan is confirmed:

      6 from New York/New Jersey
      2 from California
      1 from Georgia

      I guess the rest is, as George Clooney likes to say, truly "Flyover America".
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    • Author by jmh (May 15, 2010 8:19 pm ET)
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      could an atheist ever be confirmed?
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      • Author by ScienceBuff (May 15, 2010 10:22 pm ET)
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        Probably not for another thirty to fifty years. The ignorant preconceptions about atheists are mind-numbing.
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      • Author by mescal (May 16, 2010 2:39 am ET)
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        You can't get confirmed if you're never nominated.
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    • Author by mcnairbo6573 (May 15, 2010 9:58 pm ET)
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      Pat Buchanan is MSNBC's friendly Nazi. Y'know, we've sure had enough Irish presidents.
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    • Author by onementalgiant (May 15, 2010 10:57 pm ET)
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      Why are so many against Clarence Thomas? If you don't know, he is a black man.

      Just wondering.
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      • Author by mescal (May 16, 2010 2:41 am ET)
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        Mostly because he's a right wing ideologue and am intellectual mediocrity.
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    • Author by onementalgiant (May 15, 2010 11:22 pm ET)
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      Buchanan is completely wrong on this but why all the piling on against religion? In particular against the LDS (Mormans). Do you folks know it was the Mormans who bailed out the people of Katrina? Don't you realize people of Faith are the ones who help the unfortunate most? I always thought Liberals were caring. Am I wrong?
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      • Author by AC (May 16, 2010 2:17 am ET)
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        As to your comments about Clarence Thomas: It's not his race that we care about, it's his actions on the bench. The point that most people are trying to make on this thread is that we shouldn't be looking at somebody's race/religion/gender to determine whether or not they're right for the bench. As to your thing about the Mormons "bailing out Katrina": People from all across America, of all religions and races helped the people affected by Katrina. I think the reason why so many on here are bitter about religion is because it is shoved down everyone's throat by pundits/talking heads/politicians all day every day. We wouldn't be so bitter toward religion if it would stay the hell away from our government.
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        • Author by onementalgiant (May 16, 2010 7:58 am ET)
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          Thanks for your considered reply AC. It is refreshing to read a reply that isn't littered with name-calling.

          And you are right about all religions going to the aid of the Katrina victims; although I don't remeber if the Muslims did or not. Do you?

          What the Mormans brought was not only money and supplies but very efficient logistics - something very lacking under the mayor(s), governer, congressmen/women, and those in the Bush administrarion.
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    • Author by FNC Liberal (May 16, 2010 2:16 am ET)
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      I believe the right will distance themselves from him. It's election year and they can't afford to be seen with him. If I were MSNBC executives, I would release him from his contract.

      Too much bigotry coming from rightwing conservatives. They have insulted African Americans, Latinos, Gays, Jews, etc. Hopefully, they will lose in November. America doesn't need these bigots representing us.
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    • Author by PastyJournalist (May 16, 2010 9:26 am ET)
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      Well, I'm sure if you dig in Buchanan's past quotes, you'll find he expressed similar outrage of so many white men occupying the court.

      ...right?
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    • Author by CatsRBigLuv (May 16, 2010 11:13 am ET)
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      The McGluaglin Group is about to air. Patsy Buch is a regular panelist on that show. i wonder if John McGlauglin is going to discuss this matter? As much as I like John, it really seems like he plays soft-ball with his conservative guests, and tends to jump on his left-leaning guests.

      And on that note (and this is removed from the conversation, so i do apologize), why do conservastives insist that PBS has a "liberal bias"? PBS journalists are just good at what they do. I have NEVER seen a "liberal bias" on ANY of their news features, not even on "To The Contrary."

      Since PBS news shows give pride-of-place to conservative blow-hards like the Buchannans (both Bay and Pat), Monica Crowley or the heartless David Brooks (shame on his arrogant, irresponsible and bigoted reading of the Haiti tragedy!!!), can PBS really be accused of having a "liberal bias"?

      Or are repubs just frightened of well-researched news stories from qualified, seasoned and balanced reporters?
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    • Author by CatsRBigLuv (May 16, 2010 11:24 am ET)
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      One more thing... if Patsy Buch REALLY believes that the Supreme Court ought to be representative of the actual demographics of the country, then there should be a LOT more women, Hispanics, African Americans, working-class Americans, Jewish People, Asians, gay-people and first-generation citizens in that line-up.

      Personally, i do think our governemnt SHOULD be more representative... i think we need MORE WOMEN in the governemnt (no, not Palin... she might be "empowered", but she's empowered by lies, deception, double-standards, money-grubbing, war-mongering, communalistic hatred, bigotry, a complete lack of scruples, and an open disdain for hard-work and intelligence... NOT a feminist role-model by ANY stretch.)

      After all, our sisters do statistically out-number our brothers in the world. If the government were truly representative of actual demographics, then men must form a slight minority in that forum.

      Bit of course, I doubt Pat has really thought his argument through.
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    • Author by vonbargen9388 (May 16, 2010 12:34 pm ET)
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      I suppose Pat meant to be sarcastic when he picked three representative "ethnics" whose reputations were all sullied by corruption.
      If he really meant to ask why there haven't been any Rizzos, Daleys and Rostenkowskis named to the court, he's answered his own question.
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    • Author by chavez_frank9414 (May 16, 2010 7:16 pm ET)
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      According to a 2007 survey 16% of Americans are atheists or agnostics, so by Buchanan's logic we need to more atheists on the Supreme Court.
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