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Jerry Wrote:
Sep 14, 2010 4:25 AM
That imam, or what ever you want to call him, said that the koran was the word of god and the bible is not, and that the Mary and Jesus are explained in the koran - oh ya, it says that Mary squat against a palm tree and had Jesus, but Jesus was just a regular very good, but just a regular man.
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Jerry Wrote:
Sep 14, 2010 3:11 AM
You have to read the koran to understand what is going on. the Bible says to preach to all the world, but if someone don't want to hear, then dust off your shoes, and be on your way. The Koran tells you to lie or bully or what ever you have to to get your message through.
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OR Wrote:
Sep 14, 2010 2:21 AM
If our political pimps in DC don't grow a set and straighten up these lying terrorists, then I guess it just may be up to us. I, for one, will not be intimidated by a bunch of 3rd century barbarians who refuse to live and let live.
And, I'm just one ... think of all of us out here ... you want to threaten ... we do more than just threaten. NO MOSQUE AT GROUND ZERO OR ANYWHERE CLOSE TO IT! It's bad enough that there are already a couple of thousand in this country. The two (one civilized and one not) can NEVER live together in peace!
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poorgrandchildren.com Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 11:23 PM
Words have consequences, so stop calling Islam a religion. It is a terrorist organization just like the KKK.
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marc from Reagan Country Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 11:26 PM
I see it as a cult, some peissed off arab gets kicked out of Israel 1300 years ago and self proclaims himself a prophet.........
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marc from Reagan Country Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 10:51 PM
let Shariah's law take affect for a couple of weeks, there are a few California female liberal politicians I want to slap around........November 2nd......tick....tick....tick....tick....tick....tick.....
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Michael IL Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 9:03 PM
Islam: What the West Needs to Know
This must see documentary defines the Islamis agenda in a rational, historic perspective by individuals who are knowledgable and have pesonal experience with Islam and its teachins can be found at Town Hall Conservatives
http://thpatriots.blogspot.com/
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Michael IL Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 9:16 PM
Forgive the typo's, the mind is running faster than the fingers.
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Thomas Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 7:57 PM
We are not going to be intimidated by Obama or this so called Moderate Muslim. This is not about the Constitution or Religion. This is about understanding what this ground means to the majority of Americans. These men neither understand nor care what we feel. When they wanted to name it Cordoba that said it all. For those that are not familiar with the history in Spain check it out. It is an in your face move by these folks and that is the raw truth. I spent a year living in the middle east and there are many great folks but if they tie Koran and Sharia law in the same sentence you know they are bad news. I'm no expert on the Koran but it ties religion, social interface, goverance and laws together. When you throw Sharia law into the mix it spells anyone that opposes is the enemy and is to be eliminated.
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dabneytaggert Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 7:36 PM
And now the American public is being lectured to by this jerk. According to him Ground Zero is not hallowed ground because gambling (guess OTB's) joints & strip joints are in the neighborhood. I don't believe we were attacked by either on 9/11 in the name of allah.
What is lost on many is the inference that gambling joints & strip joints are BAD.
First he threatens us and now he lectures us on morality. Of course the msm is all breathless when this guy speaks.
Folks, I believe we are in serious, serious trouble.
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Shirley Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 11:32 PM
Exactly - Imams lecturing Americans, give me a break. They still practice slavery, they cut off people's heads, they have no right to lecture on personal rights.
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FromTheTop1 Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 7:16 PM
51 PORK PLACE
Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf will NOT be pleased when he will be forced to tell the Muslims about the history of Wall Street and how it got the name! Moreover, we know ALL Muslims believe that pork is unclean and they are forbidden to eat or touch pork!
How is the world of Islam going to react when they discover they would be praying to Allah in a Mosque erected on unclean and soiled ground by…PIGS? Would he get a fatwa from the Mullahs for his demise or be commanded to STOP the GMZ?
This is a perfectly great opportunity for Imam Rauf to take The Donald up on his offer and make a 25% profit on the building and the Governor Paterson’s offer to purchase property for a Mosque in New York City with tax-payer money! A WIN-WIN-WIN for ALL concerned!
Wall Street is just blocks from Park Place and the WALL, hence the name Wall Street, to prevent the pigs that were roaming, eating, defecating, and dying on land where Muslims want to build another Conquest Mosque.
Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf’s Ground Zero Mosque will be built on soil, ‘IF’ at all, that was owned by a Dutch Farmer where pigs and other unclean animals lived! It was also the place for slaughtering pigs and a graveyard for all of the unclean and diseased animals. I’m just saying.
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Lisa Wrote:
Sep 14, 2010 12:08 AM
HA!!!!!!
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TL Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 11:31 AM
The fastest way to investigate Obama's shady past and master the facts in order to figure out his next move:
http://tinyurl.com/obamascope
The fastest way to find the latest world news and op-articles on Islam:
http://tinyurl.com/islamwatch
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Larry W Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 10:32 AM
Until this month, I believed that President Obama was Jeremiah Wright's son, but now I am convinced that he is Muslim, because the Koran gives him the honor of lying to paint any opposition as wrong, deceitful and calculating. i.e. Tea Party, Independents. As for ttreating him like a dog, his selective dyslexia for his lame stream media he hoped for the phrase, "like a God", but didn't get it. The he can claim the Kerry defense in that he was for the mosque before he was against it.
As for Imam Rauf the Koran defense also applies as he told us months ago that Sharia Law compliance is his goal for the U.S. He just needs the cover of a freedom of speach and freedom of religion to set up a Sharia Law Institute inside this Mosque/community center, propoganda headquarters. Then Cordoba will mark another victory as they educate other imams and muslims and break our system of laws down with the help of the inept Pelosi, Reid and Obama. As for Al Qaeda, although most muslims oppose them, the koran is used to smoothe over any disagreement over methods and focus on the fact that we are pure evil. We just know that the true evil in America is in the people who run our politica system into the ground for their own wealth and prestige. There is not much that is humble in these public servants that act more like renegade unions wanting to card check 300 million of us. Where God has purged evil from the earth from time to time, he has given us the opportunity to purge those who hard the earth and its people with our voted! We must REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER or we can kiss opportunities for our children goodbye by approving another undrained swamp to beat us down more.
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zhanna Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 4:53 PM
Jeremiah Wright use to be a Muslim too.
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Bob A. Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 6:17 PM
Glenn Beck is a follower the John Birch Society and founder Robert Welch's Doctrine of what you cite as Koran Teachings.Does that mean that Glenn Beck is REALLY a closeted Muslim! Arrrrgh! OH! MY! GOD!
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Gary Wrote:
Sep 14, 2010 12:25 AM
Really, the John Birch Society? Glenn is even more intelligent than I thought, never heard that before.
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Brian Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 10:10 AM
OOPS- just look over to the right and click on the article. This too will bring the story up- now.
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Brian Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 10:07 AM
If you don't see the article- click on 'Columnists>>' above the shaded picture. Scroll down to Giles and click on the story. It will come up then.
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Jim Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 9:47 AM
where's the article?
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Gary Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 9:59 AM
Ditto. and I really wanted to read it as it should be the Headline issue of all "real" news sources. How safe do you feel America with President Obama and Ambassador Rauf in charge of your security?
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gahotdog Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 9:42 AM
Yo Townhall monitor.... 3 times I clicked on this article and it fails to appear. Each time the comments section comes up without the article.
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Gary Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 10:00 AM
Yep.
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Gary Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 10:04 AM
Yep, same here. Think it might have anything to do with Obama's next move of silencing the opposition? I'm sure that the progressives consider this article "hate speech" and I haven't even read the article. I suspose, "Silence, I kill you" says all that need to be said in that regard!
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Dave Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 9:26 AM
Now where did I put my sign? .... "THE ONLY GOOD RADICAL ISLAMIST IS A DEAD RADICAL ISLAMIST" I'm sure I'll be needing it very soon.
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Gary Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 10:06 AM
And with Imam Rauf as poster board for "moderate" Islam what does that say?
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HARVARD - MIT Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 1:54 PM
BEAR-HUG A MUSLIM.. (let em know you care)
Bear hug them real real tight (so they can't get to the rip-cord) until they turn progressive shades of RED, WHITE & BLUE.
Hug a muslim.. let them know you care
(real tight now).
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Ron Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 3:42 PM
Wait until we start playing "Cowboys and Muslims".
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doug Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 9:25 AM
Here is the article. For some reason it was incorrect in the email, but works fine if you go to the home page.
http://townhall.com/columnists/DougGiles/2010/09/12/imam_rauf_to_the_usa_“silence!_i_kill_you”
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Gary Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 10:08 AM
Tks. Doug
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poorgrandchildren.com Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 9:07 AM
A not-religious terrorist organization has no Constitutional right to build a command and control center near Ground Zero or anywhere else in this land of the formerly brave and free.
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HARVARD - MIT Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 9:25 AM
... You got that right !!!
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Eileen for Freedom/Liberty Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 8:58 AM
'LEAVE NO DEMOCRATZI 'LOON' STANDING IN NOVEMBER'!
America...what we have are two examples of the 'extreme radical' elements of two groups!
One a so called iman representing Islam who will not give in to not building a recruiting station at the hallowed ground of ground zero where over 3,000 innocent America lives were blown to oblivion in just a matter of hours by 'radical' Islamic terrorists. It was not a 'man made disaster' that the Islamic sympathizer in our White House wants to make us believe...it was an act of war by a group of 'radicals'!
By his not giving up on this site...he is negating the feelings of the millions and millions of Americans...let alone the 9/11 families that lost their family members on that day!
One a so called pastor representing Christian America. Burning a Koran puts us into the same category as the 'radical' Islamics that showed no concern for America and it's people! By his not giving up...he is negating the feelings of millions and millions of Muslims who hold this book in reverance!
Both are Constitutionally right in their stands...but both are wrong in not considering the implications of their acts on all those they are trampling on by their acts of defiance!
And we want to have Palestine and Israel sit down and hold peace talks when we can't even have a meeting of the minds and spirits of two major religions doing the right thing based on the good things of their faith?
Now...the Pastor has come forward to make concession in considering the feelings of Islamics. He has done the right thing according to Holy Scriptures!
That meant the ball of peace was in the court of Islam! But did the NY iman have make the same concession and consider the feelings of the families that lost loved ones on 9/11 and all Americans that agree with them? No...he has not!
That is yet another difference between the Judeo/Christian religion and the "radical' Islamic culture! He is showing the same arrogance and steadfastness against America and the American people just like the Islamic sympathizer in our White House!
He has claimed that if he backs down, as the Pastor did, he will be saying to the Islamic world...that we are against Islam!
Let me tell you...that if he does not...he is showing America and it's people...that Islam cannot be trusted to do the right thing and they are our enemy!
GOD BLESS AMERICA...THE LAND OF THE FREE AND THE HOME OF THE BRAVE...AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF JUDEO/CHRISTIAN AMERICANS PRAYING TO KEEP HER THAT WAY!
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Ron Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 3:39 PM
I realized why Bloomberg (NYC's mayor?) wants the Ground Zero mosque: he needs the travel money that millions of Muslims will spend to visis the Victory Mosque, in what will soon be the empty remnants of a city. Visual Hiroshima the day after The Bomb. That is Detroit today, and NYC tomorrow, after the Muslim tourists come.
BTW, Hiroshima now looks better than NYC did in its prime.
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Randall Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 8:53 AM
I just click on this article and all that is here is the debate portion. Does that mean that the article has been pulled?
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poorgrandchildren.com Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 9:09 AM
Maybe, someone flagged it as offensive. We certainly would not want anyone to offend those peaceful Muslims who only enslave, torture, and kill those who disagree with them.
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Martine Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 7:12 AM
DEBATING WILL NOT HELP
ACTION AND FIRM RESOLVE WILL
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Martine Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 7:02 AM
Will Islam Become the Religion of Europe?
« Muslims are already transforming European society in ways unimaginable only a few years ago.
In Britain, for example, the government recently acquiesced to adopting Islamic law, with Sharia courts given full powers to rule on Muslim civil cases.
In Holland, Mohamed, or other variations of the name, has become the most popular name for baby boys in the four biggest cities in the country.
In Switzerland, voters recently agreed to ban the construction of minarets, the tower-like structures on mosques, which are becoming an increasingly prominent feature of the European landscape.
Immigration, however, is only one reason for the steady rise in Spain’s Muslim population.
Muslim fertility rates are more than double those of an aging native Spanish population.
Spain currently has a birth rate of around 1.3, far below the replacement rate of 2.1 children per couple. At the current rate, the number of native Spaniards will be cut in half in two generations, while the Muslim population in Spain will quadruple. »]
Hudson New York
September 10, 2010
by Soeren Kern
During his recent two-day state visit to Italy, Libyan leader Colonel Muammar Gaddafi declared that « Islam should become the religion of the whole of Europe »
************** ******* He also said that Europe’s conversion would become a fait accompli « when Turkey becomes a member of the European Union. »
THIS IS WHY ERDOGAN JUST PASSED REFORMS IN THE TURKISH CONSTITUTION!
TO BE ADMITTED TO THE EU AND INVADE EUROPE !
80 MILLIONS OF TURKS !
Europeans mostly dismissed Gaddafi’s proselytizing as « Islamic propaganda, » and as a « non-solicited provocation lacking seriousness. »\
Meanwhile, however, Muslim immigration to Europe continues apace, with record numbers of new arrivals daily in Belgium, France, Germany, Italy and across Scandinavia.
In Britain, Holland and Spain, the rate of Muslim immigration is accelerating at an especially rapid clip, and in a shorter amount of time than in other European countries.
New report upends « homegrown terror » assumptions: Contrary to intelligence warnings, American-born jihadis have been among us ever since 9/11
« Over the past several months, intelligence officials and security experts have warned that homegrown terrorism — as distinguished from conspiracies hatched abroad and executed by foreigners — represents a growing threat.
Last May Dennis Blair, then the director of national intelligence, delivered precisely such a warning at a Senate hearing where he presented his agency’s Annual Threat Assessment.
Of special concern, said Blair, is the influence on young American Muslims of figures like Anwar al-Awlaqi, the American-born Islamist cleric located in Yemen, who has been targeted for assassination by U.S. special forces. »]
A new study of terrorist attacks and plots in the United States questions whether « homegrown jihadis » are indeed a new phenomenon — and suggests instead that they represent a very consistent element in most alleged terror conspiracies over the past nine years.
The authoritative « terrorist trial report card » – produced by New York University Law School’s Center on Law and Security — finds that in the top 50 plots prosecuted by the Justice Department following 9/11, more than 80 percent of the defendants can be defined as « homegrown. »
....AND OBAMA IS TONED DEAF AND HELPING ALL MUSLIMS !
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Melissa Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 9:16 AM
This also supports the statistical finding that 80% of the mosques in America are radical, led by radical Imams, who preach jihad. Wake up America. Europe is still asleep and going to pay a high price for it.
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Martine Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 6:54 AM
PLEASE UNDERSTAND ONCE AND FOR ALL WHAT ISLAM IS !
I WAS BORN IN AN ARAB COUNTRY AND THIS IS THE TRUTH.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE MOSQUE ONLY; THERE IS A MUCH BIGGER PICTURE
The subjugation of all non-Muslims to Islamic law
THE CONQUER OF EUROPE AND AMERICA
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Esther Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 7:50 AM
AMEN! And this is done through fear and violence.
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poorgrandchildren.com Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 9:11 AM
AMEN! They are not a religion; they are a terrorist group.
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Bob A. Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 6:20 PM
BE AFRAID! BE VERY AFRAID! THE MUSLIMS ARE COMING! THE MUSLIMS ARE COMING!
They will kill you all and eat your first born and enslave you all to do their will!
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Wayne from Indiana Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 7:16 PM
Now Bob, don't you feel better now?
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Bob A. Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 9:12 PM
NO! I'm afraid! I'm very afraid! Who will protect me and my children from those horrible hungry Muslims that eat children!
When they enslave me will they pay me less than minimum wage like the Republicans want to do?
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Alan Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 11:23 PM
Visit Iran and see if you can mock them.
I doubt that you have read the Qu'ran or spoken to anyone who has gotten away from the Shariah life.
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Martine Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 6:49 AM
Jihad is obligatory for all Muslims as it is the essence of their religion.
This is why Moderate muslims DO NOT EXIST (except the very few who actually oppose)
Jihad doesn't mean only violence.
Jihad means to struggle, in whatever way you can, to achieve Islam's single political goal: The subjugation of all non-Muslims to Islamic law.
That political goal is a Muslim's religious DUTY.
Mohammad didn't approve of meditation or navel-gazing. He said the way you can prove your devotion to Allah is by action.
So even mainstream "moderate" Muslims are active, constantly working toward the end-goal of worldwide Islamic dominance.
*******************They do it by paying their zakat, which goes to the mosque, which goes to supporting Muslim causes (which are almost entirely political causes).
And they do it by having lots of children, to give Muslims a demographic advantage in democratic countries.
***************************** They do it by making every non-Muslim they meet think that Muslims are harmless and well-meaning.
**************************************They do it by crying "racism" every time someone criticizes Islam, even though they know full well Islam is not a race (they say it because it gets the desired response: It shuts people up).
***********************************They do it by writing to every television or radio program that portrays Islam in an unflattering light. It is all jihad. Bamboozling the non-Muslims is jihad.
******************* As Mohammad said, "War is DECEIT." And as you can see, they have been winning the war.
You, like most other non-Muslims, know almost nothing about Islam and yet have a feeling that it must be all right.
We get that impression (that it is a small number of extremists) because almost none of the constant attacks by Jihadis are covered in the media.
Go to thereligionofpeace.com and you can see every verifiable attack in the world made in the name of Islam.
There are about five attacks a day. Some big, some small.
But it adds up to a constant war being waged against all non-Muslims everywhere in the world simultaneously.
More people are being killed in the name of Islam per year than were killed in the entire 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition.
****************************And each one of the Jihadis doing the killing is supported by a network of Muslims that, while they are not killers themselves, help to make it happen, help to finance it, help to hide them, feed them, encourage them, and protect them.
Moderate muslims do not exist (except very few)
And the ones committing violent jihad are only the tip of the iceberg.
In many other ways, many more Muslims are following Mohammad's example and waging jihad on many fronts and at many levels at once.
The Muslim Brotherhood is the largest Islamic organization of any kind in the world.
That makes it mainstream. Not fringe.
The Brotherhood's goal is to make the whole world submit to Islamic law.
And they are actively (and in many ways successfully) accomplishing their goal.
Most of them do not advocate random bombings, which are strategically ineffective in most places and counterproductive to the goal of world domination.
They have a long-range plan and they've been putting it into effect for over twenty years.
This is not guesswork. Their documents have been seized in FBI raids. One such raid recently led to the prosecution of members of the Holy Land Foundation.
The Muslim Brotherhood has established lots of "legitimate" organizations in the United States, which work toward the goal of destroying our government from within (this is their stated goal) — CAIR, MSA, ISNA, NAIT, etc.
They raise money to promote jihad (while fooling people as to the real purpose of the money),
they sue on behalf of Islam,
they recruit on campuses and turn non-Muslim students against America,
they influence how textbooks in American schools portray Islam,
they influence how the FBI deals with Muslims,
they fund and control madrassas and mosques all over America and make sure they teach hatred, intolerance, and non-integration.
And more.
And they do it all under our noses because our attention is focused out on the hot-headed Jihadis who are blowing things up.
Read more about the Muslim Brotherhood's goals
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algonquin Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 5:33 AM
I don't know where the article went, but responding to the articles title, "We Keel You." This Mosque is to me at least, the same as putting up a Shinto shrine in Pearl Harbor, DURING WWII. Regardless of what Ostumble says, we ARE at war with Islam. Radical , so called moderate, or anything in between. Or am I delusional? This Imam, is no different than a Shinto prieist would have been during the second world war years.
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poorgrandchildren.com Wrote:
Sep 13, 2010 9:12 AM
Haven't you heard. We are not at war with them. They are only at war with us.
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