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State Pension Plans Face $1 TRILLION Shortfall: Pew Center

First Posted: 02-19-10 08:08 AM   |   Updated: 02-19-10 11:19 AM

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HARRISBURG, Pa. ( BY MARK SCOLFORO, AP) -- States may be forced to reduce benefits, raise taxes or slash government services to address a $1 trillion funding shortfall in public sector retirement benefits, according to a new study that warns of even more debilitating costs if immediate action isn't taken.

The Pew Center on the States released a survey Thursday of state-administered pension plans, retiree health care and other post-employment benefits in all 50 states that blamed a decade's worth of policy decisions for leaving them shortchanged.

The result for some states will be "high annual costs that come with significant unfunded liabilities, lower bond ratings, less money available for services, higher taxes and the specter of worsening problems in the future," the study said.

The cost of the trillion-dollar shortfall, which will be paid over the coming decades, is about $8,800 for each American household. The study did not include many city, county and municipal pension plans, which are thought to have similar underfunding.

"We have a significant problem now, but it's a problem that can be solved by taking relatively modest steps," said Susan K. Urahn, the center's managing director. "If they don't do anything, if they wait, eventually they will have an unmanageable crisis on their hands."

As of 2008, states had $2.4 trillion to meet $3.4 trillion in promised pension, health care and other post-retirement benefits, according to the report.

The true gap may even be wider, because the study did not account for the full impact of investment losses in late 2008, during the stock market downturn, and because many plans employ multiyear smoothing techniques to lessen the effect of a single year's losses. But more recent stock market returns could help - on Wednesday, for example, Pennsylvania's $47 billion public school pension plan reported it had earned about 12 percent on investments in the 2009 calendar year.

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Pew deemed 16 states solid performers in how they fund pensions, 15 needing improvement and 19 considered to be facing serious concerns.

"Meanwhile, more and more baby boomers in state and local government are nearing retirement, and many will live longer than earlier generations - meaning that if states do not get a handle on the costs of post-employment benefits now, the problem likely will get far worse, with states facing debilitating costs," the study said.

The exploding financial burden could be a bitter pill for taxpayers, many of whom will not be collecting similar pensions or other benefits when they retire, said David Kline with the California Taxpayers' Association. About one in five private sector workers have traditional defined benefit pensions, compared with about 90 percent of public-sector employees - including some that do not get Social Security.

"Taxpayers in the future will be paying for people who worked decades before they may have even lived in the area or begun paying taxes, because the obligation for these benefits is just snowballing," Kline said.

The study graded states on how well they have managed employees' retirement benefits. Florida, Idaho, New York, North Carolina and Wisconsin began the current recession with fully funded pension systems, while eight states have left more than one-third of their pension liability unfunded.

Illinois was rated the most troubled pension system during the study period, with a 54 percent funding level and a total liability of more than $54 billion.

In Pennsylvania, a series of decisions by the Legislature and governor have shielded taxpayers from much of the pain for the past decade, but costs of less than $1 billion a year now is projected to climb to about $6 billion annually in the coming three years.

The report said policy makers have exacerbated the problem by expanding benefits, relying on overly optimistic assumptions about investment returns and failing to sufficient fund the programs.

"Even though the actuaries tell the states what they should be doing, the states feel free to ignore that," said Olivia Mitchell, director of the Pension Research Council at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School. "So putting some teeth behind the requirements is really the problem."

Pew calculated a $587 billion national cost for current and future retiree health care and other nonpension retirement benefits, with only about 5 percent of that amount funded as of 2008. The cost of health care and the number of retirees are both on the rise, adding to the pressure on states.

The study found that 15 states made some legislative changes to their state-run systems last year, 12 did so in 2008 and 11 in 2007. About a third of states had formal efforts to study potential reforms under way last year.

"Pension plans work when they are allowed to work, and part of that dynamic is that sometimes adjustments have to be made," said Keith Brainard, research director with the National Association of State Retirement Administrators. "It's important not to take away decent retirement benefits for some of the few people that have them."

Pew said states should consider changes that have proven to be effective and politically viable. Among them: setting minimum contribution levels that are actuarially sound, sharing some of the investment risk with employees, cutting benefits, increasing the minimum retirement age, making employees pay more into the system and providing more robust oversight and investment rules.

Mitchell said many states have constitutional prohibitions against lowering employee pension benefits, but health care programs can more easily be altered.


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- New sonoffestus I'm a Fan of sonoffestus 54 fans permalink

As I read these many comments and comments from other threads it appears that Americans are just now starting to wake up and realize how bad things are, and how much worse it will get.

Health care costs are going to be the tipping point. Gutted home values, pensions and savings topped off with unaffordable health care makes for a very bad situation. It's not going to be pretty. It's not now, but i think it is going to get much worse.

Broke, living and dying on the streets............ it's starting to look alot like Calcutta, maybe Mumbai. Mumbai, has skyscrapers like Wall Street.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 2/22/2010

All these bloated pensions are way out of line. Bankrupt em!

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 2/20/2010
- MayorQuimby I'm a Fan of MayorQuimby 43 fans permalink

They need to be cut DRASTICALLY. And the unions are still thinking they can squeeze INCREASES out of the system. Expect protests, strikes, service cuts and lots of angst. It will be like the 1970's but much, much worse.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 2/20/2010
- Paul Peete - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of Paul Peete 429 fans permalink

Bloated pensions, are you kidding? Workers have paid into these plans and upon retirement DESERVE to get their pensions. BE Real!
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"Meanwhile, more and more baby boomers in state and local government are nearing retirement, and many will live longer than earlier generations - meaning that if states do not get a handle on the costs of post-employment benefits now, the problem likely will get far worse, with states facing debilitating costs," the study said.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 2/21/2010
- FreedomCorpse I'm a Fan of FreedomCorpse 29 fans permalink

the globalists and their big American banking entities did the same thing to Argentina in 2001. As twain put it, history may not repeat itself but it does rhyme.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 2/20/2010
- Carolab I'm a Fan of Carolab 513 fans permalink
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My, my, MY.

I see an awful lot of RED STATES that are underfunded on that map.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 05:44 AM on 2/20/2010
- PhilipTaylor I'm a Fan of PhilipTaylor 1244 fans permalink
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That is only 6.8 years of Wall Street Bonuses to cover the entire $Trillion!

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 AM on 2/20/2010
- Whitley2009 I'm a Fan of Whitley2009 166 fans permalink
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Yes, there is a huge deficit bon fire burning in the red states, and the Republicans are dancing around them pouring more and more fuel on their fires.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 AM on 2/20/2010

Rather sad isn't it; that the wall street pigs (we're talking about just a few thousand people) who ruined the economy of the entire world are getting bonuses that if equaled in the nest ten years would pay for the pension plans of millions of puplic sector workers in every state of the union. What's even sadder is that so many dimwits think that the puplic sector workers are somehow to blame for this instead of the wall street pigs.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 PM on 2/20/2010
- RJPasadena I'm a Fan of RJPasadena 8 fans permalink

Remember the stock market crash, Bernie Madoff scam, CD swaps, a lot of the pensions were based on these risky investments. These administrators were making big bucks for a long time.

Just think if the G-No-P is allowed to privatize social security. Your kids (if you have any) will be taking care of you if they can on their minimum wage jobsn and paying off their $500K B.A. degree in history.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 2/19/2010
- billw8017 I'm a Fan of billw8017 51 fans permalink

And, they were too smart for their (our) own good.

The Wisconsin pension plan enabled Michael Miliken. He could say they would come up with enough money that his take overs couldn't be resisted. The Wisconsin board said they lost millions when Miliken turned their good stock into junk bonds, but -- even while they were making his raids possible -- they said, they would lose more if they didn't ride with him.

What a bunch of sheep!

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 AM on 2/20/2010
- DeadPhish I'm a Fan of DeadPhish 18 fans permalink
    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 2/19/2010
- billw8017 I'm a Fan of billw8017 51 fans permalink

Damn straight!

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 AM on 2/20/2010
- Gin1234 I'm a Fan of Gin1234 44 fans permalink

For those blaming all your financial woes on unions and workers who get a little more than you do because they paid into their own funds while they worked, why don't you direct your h8tred toward the politicians who are giving all your money to wars that cost billions of dollars every month? Why don't you ask them about all the pork they send back to a few people in their districts? Why don't you look at what you get for your tax dollars. Do you drive or ride a bus? Do you go to parks for enjoyment on vacation? Do you have snow removal in the winter so that trucks can bring all those little chinese trinkets to you to buy? Do you have children in school? Do you call the police when you are in trouble? How about fire engines, do you need those? Do you register to vote? Who takes care of your registration and setting up your elections? Do you maintain your own sewer lines on the street where you live? Do you go to a state college?

If you don't want to pay taxes, stay in your freaking houses all day and don't use any services so they don't have to be maintained for your pleasure. Then you wouldn't have to pay for the pensions of the people who give you services that you are happy to suck up otherwise.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 2/19/2010
- ThinkingPatriot I'm a Fan of ThinkingPatriot 5 fans permalink

The total shortfall is only a fraction of what Dubya borrowed from China for Operation Iraqi Liberation, the total cost of which will be in the TRILLIONS!

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 2/19/2010
- Dangerous Dan I'm a Fan of Dangerous Dan 32 fans permalink
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You love France so much.
Here come French taxes for every family. 45% Fed, State, Local, home owners assoc.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 2/19/2010
- August369 I'm a Fan of August369 10 fans permalink

You get what you pay for. Nothing's free (just in case that little fact escaped your reasoning)

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 2/19/2010
- LastAngryWoman I'm a Fan of LastAngryWoman 53 fans permalink
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I'd take the French tax in a heartbeat if we got the same stuff.

Meaning...imagine going to the doctor, any doctor of your choice, any time, any city, any state, and getting treated. That's it. That's all. No money exchanges hands. And that would be for each member of your family. No matter the condition. No matter the pre-existing condition. No matter how many in your family.

Imagine sending all your kids to college. Period. No second or third mortgage. No high-falutin' so-called 'education insurance' plan...Just send 'em.

And before you send them to college...you are working, naturally, what with a family (hopefully) and so you need day-care. Well...so you get daycare. And you don't have to stress about it...you don't have to sell your car to pay for it. You don't have to choose between one kid going to college in the future or paying half your week's pay on daycare.

Seriously, dude, if I could make a life with my family in a situation where I work hard, pay my taxes, and have medical care, day care, dental care, and free college for my kids so that an educated country is the norm rather than a rich privilege...I would pay French taxes.

You are Dangeous, Dan, because you LIE when you make it sound like Americans are better off than the French.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 AM on 2/20/2010

That's not much more than the average American pays and the French get a hell of a lot more for their money.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 2/20/2010
- drbob601 I'm a Fan of drbob601 4 fans permalink
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Probably there should be a close inspection of the actual pension payouts to state workers...some of which are EXCESSIVE and far more than what an average person really needs to live comfortably. A simple two-minute google search came up with these examples of city pension systems that pay outrageously high pensions. Surely these folks (many of whom retire quite early...and sometimes even continue working while collecting the pension checks that they feel they've "earned")

http://www.capitolweekly.net/article.php?xid=y5qn8ger3ylp9c
http://articles.sfgate.com/2009-06-01/bay-area/17208495_1_pension-city-workers-police-chief
http://articles.sfgate.com/2009-07-19/bay-area/17219040_1_earl-sanders-pension-police-chief

Ironically, San Fran was considered a "model" when they adopted a system that required voter approval of pension pay increases...but greedy folks just ended up rigging the system and now it's a mess.

http://calpensions.com/2009/07/23/sf-pensions-once-a-model-now-cause-for-alarm/

Really there should be no surprise here, though...the way our economic system has evolved over the last few decades has resulted in a "winner-take-all" mentality which really encourages "I gotta get mine" kind of thinking.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 2/19/2010
- Gin1234 I'm a Fan of Gin1234 44 fans permalink

Just for your information, government workers pay into their own pensions. I am a state worker. The health of the pension fund is reviewed quarterly to determine how much the state pays into it. There were years when I can remember the state paying NOTHING into my pension. I was the only one contributing. So your comment regarding pension checks that people "think" they have "earned" shows ignorance of the situation. The reason that some pension funds are in poor health is because the employer didn't contribute to them or paid little in when they could have and should have. Now it is coming home to bite them. Your speculation regarding what it takes to live comfortably, and whether or not other people earned their pay when you have no idea about anyones individual situation, is in bad judgement and inappropriate. You can thank your politicians for ignoring their responsibilities for how things are now in some states, and not in others.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 2/19/2010

THANK YOU, Gin1234!!! Well stated!

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 PM on 2/19/2010
- Whitley2009 I'm a Fan of Whitley2009 166 fans permalink
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Right, it's usually lack of contributions combined with damn poor management of the funds.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 AM on 2/20/2010
- windsun33 I'm a Fan of windsun33 permalink

When their (so called) financial advisors were telling them that the expected rate of return was 8%, what did you expect. The unions bosses were in love with it also, since it showed much higher benefits than were realistically possible over the long term.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 04:52 PM on 2/19/2010
- pjaybazaar I'm a Fan of pjaybazaar 31 fans permalink
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Now they have the public and private sector attacking each other re: pensions. Doesn't anyone get the fact that the people responsible (i.e.; although those marvelously successful government representatives and CEO's/Titans of industry) have bankrupt (morally & financially) our country by their reckless and negligent ways.....but they want the "little" people to pay for their mistakes. And as they take from each and everyone of us, what little we have in possessions and or security, we find ourselves fighting between ourselves for the few crumbs thrown from the table. It is absolutely ridiculously insane that 2% owns 98% and no economic theory of "just deserts" can possibly justify such lunacy.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 2/19/2010
- August369 I'm a Fan of August369 10 fans permalink

but noooo, it's all the fault of big bad "union bosses"

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 05:51 PM on 2/19/2010
- Whitley2009 I'm a Fan of Whitley2009 166 fans permalink
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Yep, the incompetent fa.scist managers will always blame it on the "unions."

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 AM on 2/20/2010
- smearjay I'm a Fan of smearjay 26 fans permalink
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The city of Atlanta employees are short 5 Billion in thier pension plan and they don't pay Social Security taxes.. Where are they going to get that money from? I will tell you where... "you and I" . (they think).

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 2/19/2010

What makes you think city employees don't pay SS taxes? I'm a public employee in another state. Trust me, we pay the same taxes you do. My taxes pay into my own salary and my own pension. We also pay SS taxes.

We public employees ARE "you and me." We also tried till we were blue in the face to teach you how to spell and use correct grammar (i.e., it's t-h-e-i-r, and "you and me").

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 PM on 2/19/2010
- smearjay I'm a Fan of smearjay 26 fans permalink
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If no one has a job, how are we going to pay taxes to pay for Goverment Pensions? I guess we could all go to jail or prison just to have a roof over our head, three meals and a cot.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 2/19/2010
- pjaybazaar I'm a Fan of pjaybazaar 31 fans permalink
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Until they find a way to exploit their pound of flesh from you in prison....and they do that, but then again you can't get blood out of a turnip. Sometimes the best they can exploit from this situation is a scapegoat and political prop or campaign slogan, but hey we all have to have some value....right?

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 2/19/2010
- FutureUnperson I'm a Fan of FutureUnperson 35 fans permalink

Thanks unions! You bankrupted our businesses, and when that scam was over (7% of private sector employees now in unions), you started in on our governmetn at every level. If you didn't know why the republicans are blocking Becker's nomination to the NLRB, now you know.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 2/19/2010
- August369 I'm a Fan of August369 10 fans permalink

Stop drinking the cool-aid. The race to the bottom labor cost destroyed the middle class and the consumer economy. Republicans and their Democrat enablers are responsible for this downward spiral.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 PM on 2/19/2010
- Gin1234 I'm a Fan of Gin1234 44 fans permalink

Give me a break. It is only because of unions in the public sector and contracts between the states and their workers, that the government even pays into worker's pensions. The reason why the funds are in such a poor state now is because states paid a bare minimum into the funds and used smoke and mirrors to avoid paying what they needed to pay. Unions impact on the government is barely noticable. They just insure that their workers don't work for free.

    Reply     Favorite     Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 2/19/2010
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