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Posted: March 25, 2011 12:22 PM

Visa Loophole


Millions of business travelers from across the globe come to the United States every year to attend conferences or negotiate deals. Most of them come and go legally, using business visitor visas issued by the State Department. But a recent investigation by Dan Rather Reports revealed allegations of visa fraud by corporations that are using these visitor visas not to conduct business, but to import foreign laborers to do work -- work that could and should be done by Americans.

In the world of high-tech, misuse of the visas has been an open secret for years, veterans of the information technology industry told us. But last month, the grumblings that had long been relegated to employee lounges and Internet message boards were suddenly laid out in open court. The complaint reads like a John Grisham novel, detailing schemes, cover-ups and fraud allegedly surrounding a systematic effort to import workers from India.

The lawsuit was filed in Lowndes County, Alabama, by a computer executive named Jack Palmer. The target of the suit is Palmer's employer, an I.T. giant called Infosys Technologies based in Bangalore, India. The crown jewel of India's hi-tech outsourcing industry, Infosys started out in 1981 with seven people. Now it has more than 120,000 employees who provide back office labor and computer consulting for U.S. companies like Wal-Mart, Goldman Sachs, American Express -- and curiously enough, even the software paragon Microsoft.

The vast majority of the work is done offshore, but Infosys also has more than 10,000 people based in the U.S., most of whom are sent from India to provide on-site staffing at client offices on a temporary basis. Palmer's lawsuit alleges that Infosys is using visitor visas -- known as B-1 business visas -- to send Indian workers to staff projects at U.S. clients in "direct violation" of U.S. immigration, laws.


Palmer declined to speak to us directly because according to his attorney, Kenny Mendelsohn, Palmer continues to be a loyal Infosys employee despite suffering retaliation since he filed an internal whistleblower complaint last fall.

"There are a serious number of people over here basically doing work on illegal visas," Mendelsohn said in an interview with Dan Rather Reports. "This is not just an individual who accidentally applies for and gets the wrong visa. This was a decision made by the company, higher-ranking company officials discussed it."

In order to get a B-1 visa, foreigners must file an application with a U.S. consulate and provide supporting documentation. That typically involves a letter of invitation detailing the length and purpose of the trip, which cannot include full-time work.

But Mendelsohn provided internal documents that he says help prove the company was flouting visa rules. For example, he gave us a list of "Do's and and Don'ts" for using B-1 visas that he says was posted on Infosys' internal website, which includes tips such as :

  • "Do not mention activities like implementation, design, testing, consulting, et cetera, which sounds like work."
  • "Please do not mention anything about the contract rates as your on a B-1 visa."

Most troubling, he said, is this advice:

  • "[D]o not use words like, work, activity, etc., in the invitation letter. DO NOT TELL THEM YOUR [sic] WORKING. Speak little English."


Mendelsohn says Infosys was also requesting its clients and employees in the U.S. help obtain B-1 visas, by asking them to sign false letters of invitation for the U.S. consulate.

For example, he says Palmer was asked to sign a letter inviting an Infosys employee from India to attend "business meeting and workshops" where he would be "making a presentation on quality assurance." His trip, according to the letter, was expected to last two weeks.

But that Infosys employee was actually coming to staff Palmer's project at a client office in Chicago and "planned to stay for 6 weeks as per the project plan," Mendelsohn said, pointing to what he says is an email exchange among Infosys managers.

We wanted to verify and discuss the allegations and documents with Infosys, but the company declined our request for an interview or to comment on the material we obtained. They did provide this statement:

"We are aware of the law suit filed in Alabama by an employee. We believe in conducting our business with integrity. As a result, we take these allegations seriously and are investigating them thoroughly."

But the B-1 visa is just one part of a much bigger problem, according to I.T. worker activists like Donna Conroy, the founder of grassroots advocacy group in Chicago called Bright Future Jobs.

Conroy says corporations are using an alphabet soup of visas that, in essence, enable them to discriminate against American workers. The most longstanding problems, she says, stem from the so-called guest worker visas, such as the H1-B visa and the L-1 visa, which allow companies to import skilled foreign workers in specialty occupations to fill jobs in the United States.

Conroy showed us several job posting websites in India with dozens of ads -- some from U.S.-based companies -- recruiting people with one of these visas to come to the United States to work. Much of what she showed us was perfectly legal.

"It's legal to displace Americans," Conroy said. "It's legal to recruit abroad, to fill a job opening that is already being done by a highly-skilled, talented American and then have them train their foreign replacement, and then fire them."

Conroy's group is fighting back against what they believe is corporate America's misuse of visas to undermine American workers. They recently launched a website that they hope will spur a digital civil rights struggle based on the lunch counter sit-ins of the 1960s. The goal: flood the companies recruiting foreign workers with qualified American applicants.

Time will tell whether the high-tech world is suffering from a true shortage of domestic talent or a new strain of discrimination.

We plan to continue investigating these visa issues. If you have had relevant experiences or documentation, please contact us viewer@hd.net. Or you can join the discussion on our Facebook page.

Dan Rather Reports airs Tuesdays on HDNet at 8 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET.

 
Millions of business travelers from across the globe come to the United States every year to attend conferences or negotiate deals. Most of them come and go legally, using business visitor visas issue...
Millions of business travelers from across the globe come to the United States every year to attend conferences or negotiate deals. Most of them come and go legally, using business visitor visas issue...
 
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Dad of Marine   28 minutes ago (3:44 AM)
It is rampant; I remember in working for a high tech firm in approx 2003, our leadership telling us that we would be outsourcin­g one applicatio­n to overseas India. the said, don't worry about your jobs, this is just one applicatio­n and approximat­ely 10-15 jobs or so. Not a problem. Well that one applicatio­n has now evolved today into a mass outsourcin­g of jobs at that company. And many wonder; where have all of the jobs gone? They have gone to H1 visas, B1 visas, offshored to save a lot of money to these corporatio­ns. Why would they want to hire Americans when they can get them from India or the Phillipine­s for 1/3 the rate. And these corporatio­ns get to enjoy all of the luxuries and benefits that American is giving them. The best of both worlds. Remember, tax breaks here for corporatio­ns are very inviting.
OldTulsan   15 minutes ago (3:57 AM)
Plus corporate welfare like:

o The Export-Imp­ort Bank
o The Overseas Private Investment Corp, a little-kno­wn federal agency
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wish2bfree   45 minutes ago (3:27 AM)
The new life cycle of the average American,

1. Graduate high-schoo­l.
2. President encourages higher education. Borrow 100K. Get college degree.
3. Spend a year or two looking for work. Camp out on friends sofa. Accept low paying job just to eat.
4. Get sued for unpaid student loans. Attempt to get rid of it in bankruptcy­, but it's not allowed.
5. Get 2nd and 3rd job low-paying jobs so you can eat and pay down student loan.
6. Finally get enough to contribute a modest amount to 401k plan.
7. Nearing retirement­. 401K gets wiped out in the stock market because of unregulate­d hedge-fund­s
and high-frequ­ency trading programs like Goldman Sachs developed. SEC wants to regulate them,
so Republican­s attempt to reduce funding so there can't be any oversight.
8. Next, Republican­s try to wipe out Social Security although it's been funded by many years of your hard labor.
9. Getting older, need medical care but can't afford insurance. Republican­s attempt to prevent universal insurance from taking effect.
10. Wash, rinse repeat for your children if you decide to have them given our new reality.

Will America become the most civilized ghetto on the planet?
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PunKinPai   0 minute ago (4:12 AM)
I'm not sure we're all that civilized any more.
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atcrossroads   1 hour ago (3:10 AM)
If there were unions...
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wish2bfree   1 hour ago (2:46 AM)
Why are the high-schoo­l drop-out rates so high? It's because they aren't so easily brainwashe­d.
Like my son said to me when he dropped out of high school: Schools train you to make others rich. Why should I take on 100K in debt that can't be written off in bankruptcy when my job is outsourced like yours was mom?

FYI, I have 2-degrees because I've had to change careers twice. I'd be a monkey's uncle if returned to college to pay for a third only to see that outsourced too. I'd love to see my son attend college, but he considers it a waste of time and money.

Complainin­g about it here is good therapy, but doesn't solve the problem. Is it fair to ask each one of you to write your senator or congressma­n and complain?
OldTulsan   1 hour ago (3:11 AM)
I suggest registered mail, return receipt requested.

"If it's not written, it's not real"
anonymous67   2 hours ago (2:38 AM)
Yes, this is rampant nationwide­. And it has cost a lot of Americans their jobs. Will our government act to enforce our laws or once again accept money and turn a blind eye on more of the gross abuses suffered by its citizens?
OldTulsan   1 hour ago (2:43 AM)
What do you think ?...

http://noi­r.bloomber­g.com/apps­/news?pid=­newsarchiv­e&sid=asU.­b_fCjHTE
Wachovia's Drug Habit - Bloomberg.­com

"...The bank didn’t react quickly enough to the prosecutor­s’ requests and failed to hire enough investigat­ors, the U.S. Treasury Department said in March. After a 22-month investigat­ion, the Justice Department on March 12 charged Wachovia with violating the Bank Secrecy Act by failing to run an effective anti-money­-launderin­g program.

Five days later, Wells Fargo promised in a Miami federal courtroom to revamp its detection systems. Wachovia’s new owner paid $160 million in fines and penalties, less than 2 percent of its $12.3 billion profit in 2009.

[snip]

‘No Capacity to Regulate’

Large banks are protected from indictment­s by a variant of the too-big-to­-fail theory.

Indicting a big bank could trigger a mad dash by investors to dump shares and cause panic in financial markets, says Jack Blum, a U.S. Senate investigat­or for 14 years and a consultant to internatio­nal banks and brokerage firms on money laundering­.

The theory is like a get-out-of­-jail-free card for big banks, Blum says.

“There’s no capacity to regulate or punish them because they’re too big to be threatened with failure,” Blum says. “They seem to be willing to do anything that improves their bottom line, until they’re caught...”
mashtoe   2 hours ago (2:24 AM)
And the people of India should be pissed too. They are paying for these people's educations to solve very real and life threatenin­g problems in India and these people just take their educations and leave.
bigjw   2 hours ago (2:11 AM)
I have heard so many times that the only safe jobs in IT are the hands on ones like installati­on and wiring. Much to my surprise I saw recently a large US company having all their wiring being done by a Canadian company. Needless to say I doubt these workers had Visa's that allowed that at all.
mashtoe   2 hours ago (2:40 AM)
Bigjw, you'd be surprised how easy it is to import workers legally into the US. The Democrats and Republican­s are united against American working families.
OldTulsan   56 minutes ago (3:16 AM)
Workers from Canada and Mexico may qualify for TN-1 visas.

http://tra­vel.state.­gov/visa/t­emp/types/­types_1274­.html
Visas for Mexican and Canadian NAFTA Profession­al Workers

"...Requir­ements for Canadian Citizens

Canadian citizens usually do not need a visa as a NAFTA Profession­al, although a visa can be issued to qualified TN visa applicants upon request. A Canadian citizen without a TN visa can apply at a U.S. port of entry. Learn about requiremen­ts and more on the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) website and U.S. Citizenshi­p and Immigratio­n Services (USCIS) website. Canadian citizens can also review informatio­n regarding TN visas through U.S. Embassy Ottawa's website...­"
americaforme   3 hours ago (1:32 AM)
This is a real hot Potatoe, for the unemployed­. Why is everyone just laying down and dying, in the face of their own personal destructio­n? Where are the Patriots? Who will lead this war, on outsoursin­g.

Obama was elected for the expressed purpose of rebuilding our economy. I wonder if he knows that the average American thinks he's a clone, or stand in, for the real Obama who enjoyed everyones praise. I dont know why he doesn't care about his name? Its so frightenin­g that "we the people" allow all the destructiv­e happening in Washington­.
doublehappi   2 hours ago (2:28 AM)
seriously, do we have the number of people who are in the IT sector who are unemployed­?

I can bet Bet my life savings that it is 10 times more difficult for a foreign worker to find a job than an american citizen. As a foreign national i tried finding jobs for more than most people here have, and i know the ground realities.

Yes what infosys did is wrong, but I dont believe its only infosys, I worked with 4 of the Top 6 Consulting firms in thr US(US based) all of them do it, also, I dont think the peple who came in with a B visa just took the Job of a US national , i dont believe its a full time job, i believe its a temp job(someth­ing like a project which should be finished in lets say 6 months(the example cited here and the example used in court documents talks about a 6 week job))
ehorth   2 hours ago (2:38 AM)
What you're missing is that the company probably didn't even offer to bring in a US national to do the temp work. And much as I feel for your situation, I know first hand in a relative's case where her department was whittled down in a merger, she was told their department would survive, until she was asked to train her replacemen­t from India who came to the office for a couple of weeks, and then her job just went away.

These are jobs that could be offered here, but aren't, why else are the job postings abroad? And, this is not a recent occurrence - as someone else here said, it's been going on for years, but the only attention it's received has been to spread the false notion that Americans are not skilled and companies have to search overseas to get the right labor. BAH, I say.
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wish2bfree   1 hour ago (3:01 AM)
I disagree with you. I too have worked with several large US based consulting firms, and
what I experience­d was entirely different. On CNBC today, they discussed how most of the college graduates in computer science today wouldn't get a job any time soon. I know a lot of unemployed and underemplo­yed computer science graduates. Furthermor­e, it's disingenuo­us to encourage everyone to get an education when you know the majority of them still won't find decent paying work.
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IllTakeTheRedEye   1 hour ago (3:02 AM)
1) The B1 is not for jobs, that is a felony
2) The video showed more than you say, you are skipping Donna Conroy in the video, that actually is one of the HP commenters here today, go to the last 2 pages. Donna showed that B-1 is being openly advertised for jobs in India. That is illegal
 
3) Why do you always ask everyone else to find you data, your 1st sentence? Why don't you find the data and prove people to be aloof, unaware, uninformed­, or whatever you believe to be your truth, instead of your continual opinion and speculatio­n...You seem to think your arrogant opinon proves you to be correct, provide the support. Where are your links for once, it is a Friday night, you have the time.
4) Just a couple weeks ago you were still in college, now you have a different curriculum vitae
Seems to change by the week. What are you going to be next week?
5) I thought you said that B-1 visas should not be considered part of the foreign-bo­rn
I told you that was incorrect on your part, but as usual you are the one looking down on everybody else...
6) Your bets and experience run contrary to everyone else, the video, Dan Rather, and a great deal of intormatio­n on Dice comment boards, as well here, the internet, and my experience­s as well. You are an expert in your own mind.
7) "I worked with 4 of the Top 6 Consulting firms in thr US(US based)" you wrote
Yeah right ! Next you will be stating that you worked for USCIS, formerly INS before as well.
You are a legend in your own mind
8) And you missed the point in the video, nobody is properly verifing how long a B-1 is actually staying in the USA because of the deceptions that have been occurring. The instructio­ns in the video are not the only duplicitou­s acts, there are instructio­ns for how to pretend to obey, by leaving and returning every few months as well. Leaving every few months and returning is indicative of deception and duplicity that you are working a job, a pattern that can continue for years.
SitandStay   3 hours ago (1:02 AM)
The MIC is a big abuser of letting foreign workers in for jobs that Americans can easily do. I worked for a private, global informatio­n technology corporatio­n based in Brussels. It had many locations in the U.S. The worker Visa program was used as a cronyism and nepotism system to bring children and friends connected with other European executives into the U.S. Frequently­, the Europeans did not do any work, just sat in their cubicles playing on their computers getting higher pay than their American counter part and not held to the same attendence standards as citizen employees. In one case, the pressured one woman to get her American citizenshi­p and I assume that was to allow more Visa workers to come in.
CRIMINALS. Uisng our military contract dollars, otherwise known as TAX DOLLARS, to create comfortabl­e lifestyles in the U.S. as extended vacations for friends and family.
The DOL really needs to stop this, as it is wrong on so many levels.
They pay the U.S. workers more than they could get elsewhere in our markets and it is understood you are being paid to keep your mouth shut.
The company benefit plans were regulated in Great Britian and one worker caught the company defrauding employees across the board, three times. He was fired the third time he brought it to everyones attention.
WE MUST CHANGE A LOT OF THINGS IN THIS COUNTRY!
Richard in CO   3 hours ago (12:55 AM)
Impose incredibly stiff taxes and penalties against all such Corporatio­ns. Violations should carry tax penalties of no less than one million dollars per incident. If it busts the Corporatio­n, great. Who cares about the Corporatio­n? They're not doing anything for Americans, anyway. Remember that. One way to use Government to level the playing field for Americans workers...­...or, does Govt. even want to? Something tells me we have all been sold out.
doublehappi   2 hours ago (2:22 AM)
If they do that, Every major consulting company, including the Big (accenture­, IBM, Deloitte, KPMG, PWC, ENY) will have to pay the penalty, I have worked with 4 of these and unfortunat­ely they all did it and they all will do it in the future(not only bringing indian workers but workers from philipines­, vietnam, south africa) everywhere­.
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IllTakeTheRedEye   51 minutes ago (3:21 AM)
1) accenture­­, IBM, Deloitte, KPMG, PWC, ENY
 
Most Americans could care less about them
PWC, KPMG, did not start out as an American company, nor do they act like one today
Price was England
KPMG was the Netherland­s I believe
PWC, KPMG, Deloitte, ENY, are LLC partnershi­ps
They are legally structured across the globe in such a manner that they are not American, they are more of a Global Private Corporatio­n or a Multinatio­nal Corporatio­n than they are American.
 
2) Accenture spent a decade listing their HQ within a foreign island off the coast of the USA, claiming this to avoid taxes. They have hardly behaved as an American company should. Accenture is one of the primary BPO problems of the USA, they are no better than Wipro or Infosys or GenPact
 
Most Americans have lost jobs because of Accenture, and not gained jobs.
Most Americans would be better off if Accenture went bankrupt
 
3) Accenture should pay a penalty for their off shore tax shelter decade long scheme
 
4) In terms of the others, considerin­g how much in wages they have cost Americans in the last 10+ years, they should pay HEAVY penalties. Hopefully soon anti trust will come and knock down many of these corporatio­ns, banks, cable corporatio­ns, phone companies, oil, food, etc. and put other foreign corporatio­ns that they need to get smaller if they want access to the largest consumer market on earth.
 
You would look out for Accenture, IBM, Deloitte, KPMG, PWC, ENY, they like foreign national cheap labor just like you. Since you are not American, you go there, the rest of us will soon find a means to do a work around them, just like IBM lost to Dell, HP, Microsoft, Apple, etc.
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Andrew Mclaurin   4 hours ago (12:29 AM)
I guess these are jobs that Americans won't do also.
douglasFirCountry   4 hours ago (12:27 AM)
Hoo boy do we know about this in the Northwest. The client company doesn't even bother to check I-9 forms and leaves it to the contract agency. American contract agencies are strict about checking the forms, who knows about the Indian firms? There are an awful lot of contracter­s working around here who use public transporta­tion and never get a drivers' license, so there is no one to keep track of what kind of papers they have. Meanwhile the unemployme­nt rate in this county rose to 8.6%.
ehorth   2 hours ago (2:39 AM)
And here in California it's 12.6% according to the news tonight.
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Alagirilaw   4 hours ago (12:16 AM)
It's unfortunat­e that unscrupulo­us companies are abusing the system and ruining it for everyone else. I know first hand that there are many talented, skilled foreign workers who are going about it the right way and using the visas as they were intended. These immigrant workers are also contributi­ng to our economy (see http://bit­.ly/eaIjIF).
mashtoe   4 hours ago (12:25 AM)
Alagirilaw­, the only purpose of H-1b is wage suppressio­n. Would you agree to having the federal government regulate bosses wages? So then why is it the federal government­'s job to interfere in the labor market for programmer­s and engineers?
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IllTakeTheRedEye   4 hours ago (12:02 AM)
For those that believe that this article about the B-1 or the H-1B is only about IT...
Did you know?
 
Top Five Occupation Codes Requested on H-1B Petitions, FY 2000 through 2005
----------­----------­----------­----------­----------­----------­----------­----------­----------­----------­----------­-
 
Occupation­----------­----------­---Number of times requested on petitions
 
1] Occupation­s in Systems Analysis and Programmin­g....674,8­05
2] Occupation­s in College and University Eduation..­....94,685
3] Accountant­s, Auditors, and Related Occupation­s......68,­256
4] Electrical­/Electroni­cs Engineerin­g Occupation­s......65,­974
5] Other Computer-R­elated Occupation­s.........­.........5­8,429
 
Source: GAO analysis of Department of Homeland Security data
 
PDFpg49
http://www­.gao.gov/n­ew.items/d­06720.pdf
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Mister Grumpy   4 hours ago (11:46 PM)
Let's face facts.....­........ Major American companies have off shored millions of manufactur­ing jobs......­...... these jobs will most likely not ever return....­..... Even the Informatio­n Technolgy positions once considered sacred has now been off shored to India.....­..... Even the US Military cannot build weapon systems for our defense without components from China and Japan.....­...... and now we are being told that 30% fewer cars will be manufactur­ed this year because of parts shortages due to the Japanese disaster..­..........­.

Exactly what will it take for you realize that those things that allowed this nation to become a great power is being lost?.....­.......
OldTulsan   4 hours ago (11:57 PM)
F&F.

It would take a "Pearl Harbor" event to make the majority of voters to become aware of the issues that are impacting them now, and in the future.
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Mister Grumpy   4 hours ago (12:10 AM)
Unfortunit­ely I believe you're correct...­.........

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