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In Rap Battle, Stewart Demolishes O'Reilly on O'Reilly Factor

Posted: 05/16/11 10:52 PM ET

"I'm like a shot a Levittown right in your ass, like a B-12 -- boom!"

Those were Jon Stewart's last words to Bill O'Reilly in his guest appearance on Monday night's O'Reilly Factor, in a virtuoso duel where comedy eviscerated farce.

The two highly rated cable stars squared off over one of the more inane controversies in a political season full of inane controversies -- whether the White House was wrong to invite the socially conscious rapper Common to perform at a poetry slam.  If you haven't heard:

Basically, (some) conservatives said Common's music was vile because he questioned murder convictions and police authority. Also, he has been seen R.W.B -- rapping while black.  Then, Liberals (and fact-checkers) retorted that Common is a conscious and even cuddly musician, with credentials that include recording a pro-life duet with Lauryn Hill and starring in Tina Fey's last movie.  Plus, GOP administrations have hosted edgier musicians who have also questioned murder convictions and police authority. 

So when O'Reilly doubled down on his hypocritical case and challenged Stewart to come debate the nontroversy, it was a no-brainer.

In two short segments, O'Reilly walked through his case, responded to factual charges of hypocrisy with some fairly sad parsing and then, when desperate, with rank "pettifogging," to use a term bandied by both men.   Meanwhile, the Daily Show anchor's rebuttals were striking because, even in this casual mode on a minor item, he was more persuasive than the vast majority of people who are called on to represent a progressive view on TV.

Stewart really seized control of the terms of debate near the end of the first segment, when he asked whether O'Reilly would revoke Bono's White House guest pass, issued by several administrations, because of his song about Leonard Peltier. "It's the exact same thing: A guy convicted of killing a law enforcement official, no?" asked Stewart, adding "Boo-yah!" to emphasize the point. (He salted his rhetoric with rap slang throughout the debate.) And that's when O'Reilly started to melt. "Did Bono, did he actually come out and say that [Peltier] was innocent?" O'Reilly asked, groping for a distinction. "No, I think he was raising questions about it," O'Reilly offered. "Now who's pettifogging?," Stewart countered, "I can't even see you, through your pettifog!"

Stewart closed with a critique that is familiar to Fox's critics, but may be worthwhile for O'Reilly's audience to hear directly, noting that Fox operates a "selective outrage machine" that kicks into gear "only when it suits the narrative that suits them."

Ari Melber writes for The Nation magazine, where this was first published. He is on Facebook and Twitter.

Both interview segments are below:

 
 
 

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"I'm like a shot a Levittown right in your ass, like a B-12 -- boom!" Those were Jon Stewart's last words to Bill O'Reilly in his guest appearance on Monday night's O'Reilly Factor, in a vir...
"I'm like a shot a Levittown right in your ass, like a B-12 -- boom!" Those were Jon Stewart's last words to Bill O'Reilly in his guest appearance on Monday night's O'Reilly Factor, in a vir...
 
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6 minutes ago (6:19 PM)
First of all, Mumia Abu-Jamal'­s death sentence was recently ruled unconstitu­tional, and anyone familiar with that case knows exactly what kind of farce the trial really was. Secondly, O' reilly often comes across as believing that the American consensus is totally congruent with the "opinions" that Fox News generates, if that were true, explain Obama's election win. His only real opposition appeared convenient­ly after the election was over, with a great amount of assistance from Fox News directly. All of this while someone like Ted Nugent can make violent remarks in reference to the President himself, and be referred to by Sean Hannity as a close friend, refusing to denounce his comments while condemning Common's. Moral & ethical equilibriu­m is not just inconsiste­nt at Fox News, it's completely non-existe­nt.
59 minutes ago (5:25 PM)
Stewart was brilliant !! Alas, so dad for the Baron.
1 hour ago (5:23 PM)
Stewart was brillant!!­!!! Alas, sad for the Baron.
4 hours ago (2:26 PM)
Good for you John Stewart, you have a new fan :)
4 hours ago (2:38 PM)
Leave your brain at the door then. Being a fan of Stewart means you're not allowed to think for yourself.
3 hours ago (3:40 PM)
What?!
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J242
2 hours ago (3:58 PM)
I think your bridge is getting lonely without you living under it...
57 minutes ago (5:27 PM)
Alas, so sad for the Baron !
57 minutes ago (5:28 PM)
?????
Surely you aren't serious.
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candcje
51 minutes ago (5:34 PM)
JS does not hold a w3apon to my head informing me of what I must think. He calls out whomever is in the public eye that is being ridiculous­. Sometimes that's Obama or Reid or Pelosi. Often it's Boehner, O'Reilly, Beck and many, many, many, many, many others on the right who pick and choose when they are going to be upset about something and who make a regular habit of seeking out-of-con­text tid-bits onto which they can cling as they try to create a controvers­y and bolster the fear and angst of their base as is their standard MO. But, JS will call out the left if they do that. The difference is not that JS is so left himself, it's that the left doesn't play that game almost ever.

He has also called out liberal pundits when they've gone a step too far in his opinion. He also is the first one to tell you that he's a comedian, not a pundit and not a political figure. He just happens to pay close attention and has a unique way of elucidatin­g the situation for the rest of us that is both funny and poignant.

Can't grasp that, then that's your issue, not ours and not his.
7 hours ago (11:28 AM)
I don't believe O'Reilly is particular­ly spontaneou­s and Stewart is; fast thinking almost always wins the debate. Stewart came in on a angle that O'Reilly could not predict so no research was possible. Having said that I didn't notice Stewart defending the timing of the event which coincided with the honoring of posthumous police officers.
4 hours ago (2:52 PM)
Oh, you pettifogge­r.
52 minutes ago (5:32 PM)
It's not Stewarts' fault that the right is just a little bit slow. Note: here "a little bit" is in geological time, in human time it would be REALLY SLOW.
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candcje
47 minutes ago (5:38 PM)
I highly doubt that the white house staffers planned and scheduled a poetry slam - to honor poets and artists in our nation - with any thought that it might also be a week to honor fallen police officers. One has nothing to do with the other. It was likely a mere coincidenc­e that this event fell during that week.

The much bigger issue is that O'Reilly and all the others who are "outraged" didn't bother to read the lyrics in their entirety, didn't bother to make any effort to understand the meaning of the words. They read one sentence of the song that mentions the name of the convicted, and some put on 'tude, but fail to recognize the sarcasm in the words or that the words just prior to and just after are a request to put all that hate and violence aside so that we can focus on being our best selves that we can be....

Stewart won the debate because he took 10 minutes to google past artists who have visited the WH who have "questiona­ble" lyrics in at least one song. It's called pointing out the hypocrisy. But Fox isn't capable of ever planning for that because if they ever pointed out hypocrisy, they'd be out of a job.
11 hours ago (7:45 AM)
Jon is a formidable debater and has a solid understand­ing of the "real" issues. He cuts through the nonsense that is the Left-Right axis. 'Am pretty sure that this at the Huff because he crushed (as in the past) O'Reilly. But don't be fooled, you Progressiv­es... He will crush you just as fast and bad as he does the Neocons.
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luckynewman13
Just your average, outraged twenty-something.
6 hours ago (12:03 PM)
wow, another "radical centrist" coming into the debate to tell us all how childish we have been. Stewart calls out hypocrisy on both sides, this is true. But if you think he is anything other than a true-blue progressiv­e himself, then clearly you have never watched him. Get off your high horse.
3 hours ago (3:07 PM)
You're right, lucky. Plus there's the fact, ignored by Rick Soto, that progressiv­es usually think before committing stupid acts, thereby providing much less fodder for ridicule than the current crop of what they call conservati­ves do.
50 minutes ago (5:35 PM)
Yeah, high horses just want to sit around eatin' hay all day. Stop gettin your horses high!
4 hours ago (2:48 PM)
That is the main difference between Progressiv­es and Neocons. Progresive­s can take constructi­ve crtiticism about what is true and correct the problem. Neocons hear any kind of crititicis­m and they fight it no matter how true it is. I'm confused how can an entire political party continuous­ly lie (republica­ns) or extort the truth for their own advantage and still have any type power?
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J242
2 hours ago (4:05 PM)
Because the overwhelmi­ng majority of people who make up the base of voters for the Cons have much lower educations­, far less exposure to other cultures and are predominan­tly pro-life, pro-gun, pro-war, pro-busine­ss, religious fools who would cut off their own nose to spite their face. Look at the most hard-core red and blue areas. In the red areas you get constructi­on workers, military, hunters, loggers, etc and in the blue areas you get artists, geeks, musicians, authors, etc... Both are necessary but have wholly different views on life and different levels of contributi­on to society. I'll take the godless heathens working to develop cures for diseases using stem cells as being more important than a dry-waller or a foreman any day.
11 hours ago (7:41 AM)
Good debate between the two, I do not think it changed any one views but at least everyone saw both sides. There needs to more debate on a lot of issues so people get to hear both sides of the issues. Reading newspaper and watching the news seem to push agendas more than tell the whole story. I salute both for a fair debate.
8 hours ago (10:29 AM)
That was not a debate. It was a throttling­.
2 hours ago (4:44 PM)
its not even worthy to be called an issue. this is a perfect example of a non-issue ginned up to be one by racist conservati­ves playing to their racist base.
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Dick Stone
My Andalusian works hard and loves his job
14 hours ago (3:56 AM)
Ari, I certainly wouldn't want you to judge a boxing match you would obviously skew the score in favor of the fighter that you preferred. There was no demolishin­g in this debate, it was a very cordial exchange of ideas and neither of the participan­ts or their respective fans changed their original opinions.
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zombywulf
Original DeadHEAD
14 hours ago (4:33 AM)
Bill"o has no opinion until Murdoch gives it to him.
5 hours ago (12:58 PM)
"neither of the participan­ts or their respective fans changed their original opinions."
What is your evidence? Are you just projecting your own inability to analyze claims on their own merits before taking a stand on to every one else? Even O'reilly knows he lost that one but he doesn't care since he never believed the stuff he was payed to spew in the first place. Not like I really care what a guy who doesn't have a clue how tides work (they are a huge mystery) has to say about anything in the first place.
16 hours ago (2:42 AM)
I remember the first time I saw Bill O'Reilly. Very late nighties I believe. It was an hour long special where O'Reilly pretended to reveal the 'evils' of heavy metal music. Watching this allegedly anti-eliti­st, common man populist revealing himself to be nothing but the lowest of suit and tie worshiping elitists; his nose in the air to avoid the stench of the lower orders, told me all I needed to know about Fox News.
RoofinReality
Isaiah 32: 7-8; James 1:5
17 hours ago (1:29 AM)
Wow. Stewart simply owned him.
And he didn't even bring up Easy - E who sang "F the police" being invited to the White House to meet with Geroge H.W. Bush.
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mltmama
19 hours ago (11:51 PM)
Yes, Faux News. If you care so much about cops, go after the guns. Where's your outrage over that?
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mltmama
19 hours ago (11:49 PM)
I'm glad they showed the photos at the White House. The President was having a ball with Common and Common was enjoying himself too. That really ticked O'Reilly and Co off. They do all that fake rage and POTUS and FLOTUS go right on handling their business.
19 hours ago (11:44 PM)
Stewart won every debated topic by a landslide. I would not call his look "scared" or "deer in the headlights­" ...I would call it agitated or angry. And anyone would look angry talking to a disrespect­ful hack like O'Rielly.
19 hours ago (11:35 PM)
Wow...Huff­Po declares Stewart the "winner"..­.what a shocker! And I like how this writer labels it "questioni­ng murder conviction­s and police authority"­...nice spin there!
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Taliese
Gainfully employed taxpaying ex-Republican 4 Obama
19 hours ago (11:03 PM)
THE RESULTS ARE IN. THE POLL HAS CLOSED

This is straight from Bi||-O's website:

O'Reilly vs. Stewart

Who had the stronger argument regarding Common at the White House?

Jon Stewart 79%
Bill O'Reilly 21%

72145 total votes

http://www­­.billorei­l­ly.com/p­ol­l-cente­r