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Added on 31-May-2011

Paul Rodgers says he “may” tour with Queen once again – even though each member of the band has been doing “different things” lately.

The legendary Bad Company and Free vocalist joined guitarist Brian May and drummer Roger Taylor to tour as Queen + Paul Rodgers from 2005 to 2009 – as well as record album The Cosmos Rocks in 2008 – and, while they’ve each been involved in many other projects since then, Paul has not ruled out working with the rock band again.

Paul says that, while the band was placed on hold “because we all wanted to do different things”, they “may” yet get back together again.

The 61-year-old said he “didn’t feel like there was a lot more we could do” after the band “toured the world twice” – releasing live albums Return of the Champions in 2005 and Live in Ukraine four years later – and recorded “the studio album”.

He added that “we didn’t want to do it forever”, although he gave the many millions of Queen fans some hope of a reunion when he said that he “enjoyed playing the role for a while, so we’ll see”.

But Paul, who picked up the outstanding contribution to British music prize at the recent 56th staging of the Ivor Novello songwriting awards at the Grosvenor House Hotel in London, admitted to feeling somewhat daunted when deciding to join the band following the death of original Queen vocalist Freddie Mercury.

Paul believes that he “had to fill a role as well as be myself” when replacing Freddie, who died due to complications related to AIDS back in 1991, but confessed that stepping into the well-established band “was quite daunting”.

The singer – who enjoyed great success with his other bands – added that “at first we were just jamming and having fun”, but he suddenly “realised the enormity of what” he’d got himself into when the band’s crew “put the full rig up” and he “was stood in the middle”.

Paul also says that he “grew to love Freddie” and “always had a great deal of admiration for Queen” and the band’s original singer, but gained even greater respect for the flamboyant star the more he “studied him and his life and death, too”.

He concluded by adding that he was impressed by the way in which the “very, very brave” Freddie gracefully removed himself from the public’s attention after becoming increasingly ill – adding that the singer never talked about “poor me”.

http://www.musicrooms.net/rock-and-pop/34356-paul-rodgers-to-tour-with-queen-again.html

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Posted by mickyparise user is on Queenzone.com
on 5/31/2011 8:36:00 PM
I cannot go into any details, but please trust me when I say this will never happen.  I cannot tell you why, or the source it came from, it just won't happen.  PR is a sore point for a certain Queen duo, please believe me on this.
Posted by Thistleboy 1980 user is on Queenzone.com
on 5/31/2011 8:50:00 PM
Hard to believe you when you can't even go into details...
Posted by inu-liger user is on Queenzone.com
on 5/31/2011 9:18:00 PM
I may be alone in this, but I really hate when people pull the "I have information, but can't share it, except to say [X]" card. What are we, in Jr. High? Spill the beans or don't even mention it.

I mean no disrespect specifically to Thistleboy, it's just a peeve of mine.

Posted by rhyeking user is on Queenzone.com
on 5/31/2011 9:35:00 PM
I really hope you are completely WRONG  and we can see again Q+PR on tour !!!!
Posted by CJVM user is on Queenzone.com
on 5/31/2011 9:43:00 PM
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]rhyeking wrote: [/QUOTENAME] I may be alone in this, but I really hate when people pull the "I have information, but can't share it, except to say [X]" card. What are we, in Jr. High? Spill the beans or don't even mention it.

I mean no disrespect specifically to Thistleboy, it's just a peeve of mine. [/QUOTE] You're not alone. I actually despise that practice myself, especially since anyone can use that tactic on the Internet. If you can't say anything, then DON'T say anything, otherwise that's how you'll aggravate people online and attract troll attention.

Posted by inu-liger user is on Queenzone.com
on 5/31/2011 9:54:00 PM
Thistleboy 1980 wrote: I cannot go into any details, but please trust me when I say this will never happen.  I cannot tell you why, or the source it came from, it just won't happen.  PR is a sore point for a certain Queen duo, please believe me on this.
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It's common knowledge that Brian & Paul had a falling out during the 2008 tour (Roger has said it publicly in one of his interviews) but over the last few interviews that Brian has done & when been asked about  the pairing, he has had positive comments about Paul.  So have they built bridges or is Brian just being professional about it?

Me!!!! I welcome it, if it gets them back on the road as Queen, but I can't see it happening!!!  maybe as a guest at the 40th anniversary gig (if it happens!!!!)

Posted by A Word In Your Ear user is on Queenzone.com
on 5/31/2011 11:35:00 PM
Well Brian has said maybe a show this year and Paul said he would love to do 1 off's with the band again, but a tour mmm, I loved the shows but I think its time to move on and if they are gonna tour, which I cant see it now as a band, then use Roger more on vocals with Rufus on the drums when he's singing, or use some lesser known singers.
Posted by jeffuk49 user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 1:56:00 AM
NOOOOOO!!!! WE WANT GEORGE MICHAEL!!!
Posted by TheKingOfRhye user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 4:11:00 AM
Well something is gonna happen, Chris Evans mentioned that something was happening that he couldnt mention and now Paul Rodgers pops up with he "may" tour with Queen again
Posted by freddiefan91 user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 5:06:00 AM
OK, well put it this way - a friend, who has worked with Brian lately (i.e at the Anthems tour) was told by an extremely high-up member of Brian's team NOT to mention Paul to Brian as it is a very, very sore point.   I think the view is that certain folk were better boosted by the collaboration. My mate was even wearing a Queen+PR shirt, and was asked to kindly cover it!  I can't tell you who the mate is, where this took place or even the name of the guy who gave the info, but I can guarantee that it is the truth.  That's all!
Posted by Thistleboy 1980 user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 5:27:00 AM
Btw, sorry about my first post on the thread, I just wanted to communicate that it can't and won't happen, but sometimes I just get a bit paranoid when I get snippets of info like that.  I know I shouldn't have said anything at all if I couldn't give reasons, but hopefully the last snippet is enough.
Posted by Thistleboy 1980 user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 5:33:00 AM
Thistleboy 1980 wrote: I cannot go into any details, but please trust me when I say this will never happen.  I cannot tell you why, or the source it came from, it just won't happen.  PR is a sore point for a certain Queen duo, please believe me on this.
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I agree with you.  I posted at the time of the Cosmos Rocks tour finishing that this was the case - a good friend of mine is personal friends with a major recording artist (whose band supported Queen before) who reported to him a major falling out between Brian and Paul.

I can also see the point made by others posters that Paul Rodgers clearly did very well out of the collaboration; Bri and Roger were seen by many as trading off the Queen name and sulling their reputation, but PR was seen to be brave and daring to try it.  He gained a lot of a following from it, and wasted no time at all in playing a lot of high profile, big venue gigs straight after, getting lots of music press coverage and sponsorship. which he wouldn't have been in a position to do without the Queen tie-in.  He did small tours and larger one offs before, but not the kind of thing he has done in the last 2-3 years.  I'm not saying he shouldn't have done, but that's just how it is - Brian should be long enough in the tooth to not let it get to him so much; at least all three of them have been civil and professional about it in public.

Posted by cmsdrums user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 7:11:00 AM
Good man Thistleboy 1980. :)
Posted by Djdownsy user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 7:18:00 AM
I HOPE SEE ONE LAST "REUNION TOUR"
WITH: BRIAN, ROGER AND JOHN!!! ROGER ON VOCALS AND RUFUS ON DRUMS
Posted by BootlegsOnYour user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 8:45:00 AM
Well, I never realised that Paul got a big boost from the collaboration.

Does anyone know who is wealthier...Brian or Paul?

Posted by PrimeJiveUSA user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 9:23:00 AM
Wait, what...?

Maybe I'm totally misunderstanding, but are you saying that Brian was not happy that Paul took advantage of some of the new-found audience to promote his own career? I'm well aware that Paul had a few solo tours and gigs during the period he worked with Queen, but so what? The collaboration was just that, *a collaboration.* Paul had a  lengthy career before working with Queen. It's not like he was a nobody whom Brian and Roger brought to stardom, who then ditched the very guys who carried him to the top. And it's not as if he's stealing Queen fans away.

So what exactly is the issue?

Does it come down to Brian and Roger wanted to do more touring as Q+PR, but Paul said, "No, mates, I'm touring on my own!"? Alright, maybe that could be taken as a bit undiplomatic, but it's not as if Queen had exclusive rights to Paul. And it's not as if they themselves didn't go through a bit of that in the '80s, where they all were getting a little tired of touring and recording together constantly, resulting in both breaks from Queen and solo releases.

These are three guys who currently have multi-faceted careers...

Brian: Queen, solo, WWRY, astronomy work, photography work, University Chancellor
Roger: Queen, solo, WWRY
Paul: Solo, Bad Company Re-union

In the end, I'm assessing this based on the rumours and innuendo surrounding the end of the Q+PR collaboration. If I'm 100% inaccurate, I'll be the first to admit it, but from what everyone is saying, I still don't understand what each of the individuals wanted or expected from each other and the collaboration, and how that led to the end of the collaboration.

Posted by rhyeking user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 9:32:00 AM
I was hoping some collaboration would happen this year, and I thought it was probable that they would play with Paul again in this process. I changed my mind when I saw the Days of Our Lives BBC Documentary (part 2). The mention to the QPR tours and to TCR was really fast and led me to think they consider it something from the past. These are all (somewhat) educated guesses, I know.

Cheers,

Ogre-

Posted by Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 9:50:00 AM
I think it will happen, if only for a few shows. I  dont believe BM  had a huge falling out with Paul,. Rodgers is his own man and obviously doesnt want to be known as just freds replacement. He has an even longer legacy going back to the early 70's with Free and later with Bad CO, The Firm, The Law and a plethora of solo stuff. id like another qpr album and tour would be great.
Posted by Russian Headlong user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 10:15:00 AM
Good one Thistleboy...Paul's putting the feelers out huh? His comments about Freddie come hot off the heels of the doc, which is spurring some nice sales for Queen. Hmmm...
Posted by jaq user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 11:27:00 AM
Well, as far as I remember, it was mentioned just after the split that Paul fell out with Brian which was the direct reason why the project came to an end. And frankly, I don't miss PR an awful lot. It was quite interesting for some time, because it was a slightly different take on Queen, but I certainly wouldn't like it to continue for too long and become too big a chapter in Queen's career.
Posted by k-m user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 11:46:00 AM
Doing the math, 1971 to 2011, it's currently 1/8th Queen's career (5 years).

2 Live albums, with 3 corresponding Live DVDs
1 Studio album
1 non-album Live single
Numerous Live Downloads 
2 Tours, 1 a world tour

Say what you will, that is not a small output for only 5 years.

Posted by rhyeking user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 1:00:00 PM
I think the relationship started coming apart pretty early on - after Brian fell on Paul's piano at the DC show.  When something like that happens, all trust is broken.
Posted by Donna13 user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 1:16:00 PM
jaq wrote: Good one Thistleboy...Paul's putting the feelers out huh? His comments about Freddie come hot off the heels of the doc, which is spurring some nice sales for Queen. Hmmm... =============================================================================================

Let's get this straight - as a vocalist, I think PR is top notch, and I really enjoyed seeing Queen+PR in Glasgow in 2008.  I bought all the albums, singles etc, and even got into Free/Bad Co et al.  However, as a person, I hear Paul is a real cunt, and thinks he's Chuck Norris.  From what I gather through my mate, the guys feel that PR didn't take things as seriously as they would have hoped, and his career has taken off again since being linked to the Queen name.  So, in a way, PR did use Queen, and now doesn't need them.  If that IS the case, fuck him.  I was one of the ones who actually stood up for PR a while back on QZ, but when you hear stuff like this....

Posted by Thistleboy 1980 user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 1:38:00 PM
Thats quiet amazing Thistleboy.

Someone more or less confirming what i have thought since the split.

I too was at the 2008 gig at the SECC. But for whatever reason , i got an overwhelming feeling that Paul was a bit of a cunt of a man to work with, and that there was ill feeling toward the end.

Posted by Zodiacal_light user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 3:16:00 PM
Zodiacal_light wrote: Thats quiet amazing Thistleboy.

Someone more or less confirming what i have thought since the split.

I too was at the 2008 gig at the SECC. But for whatever reason , i got an overwhelming feeling that Paul was a bit of a cunt of a man to work with, and that there was ill feeling toward the end.
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It was alarm bells for my mate as soon as we was instructed to cover the Queen+PR T-shirt lol.  I mean, that's just how acrimonious it actually is.  Guess the guys were just being professional in the doc!  Imagine that, Freddie's favourite singer doing the dirty on the band?  He'd be turning in his grave!  Bet he's up there somewhere penning a "Flick Of The Wrist" type ditty about PR now lol.  Now there is NOT a bad idea.....

Posted by Thistleboy 1980 user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 3:32:00 PM
I'd be more inclined to believe Brian May's giant ego was the cause of any friction. Wasn't there also some talk of Rodgers not wanting to rehearse as much as Brian?
Posted by Holly2003 user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 3:32:00 PM
Holly2003 wrote: I'd be more inclined to believe Brian May's giant ego was the cause of any friction. Wasn't there also some talk of Rodgers not wanting to rehearse as much as Brian?

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With all due respect, I don't agree with the first part of your post.  Now,  reading between the lines of the info I heard, Paul was not being as professional as hoped.  He thought he had no real reason to rehearse, because he's Chuck friggin Norris.  Now THAT'S an ego if ever I saw one.   And now he wants to boost it further by causing speculation about a possible "reunion".

Posted by Thistleboy 1980 user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 3:42:00 PM
Let's get this straight - as a vocalist, I think PR is top notch, and I
really enjoyed seeing Queen+PR in Glasgow in 2008.  I bought all the
albums, singles etc, and even got into Free/Bad Co et al.  However, as a
person, I hear Paul is a real cunt, and thinks he's Chuck Norris.  From
what I gather through my mate, the guys feel that PR didn't take things
as seriously as they would have hoped, and his career has taken off
again since being linked to the Queen name.  So, in a way, PR did use
Queen, and now doesn't need them.  If that IS the case, fuck him.  I was
one of the ones who actually stood up for PR a while back on QZ, but
when you hear stuff like this....
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DEAD @ Chuck Norris...lol
I agree Paul deserves all his props, and wish I had been a fan sooner to catch Q(+PR) at least. Reckon it's all about expectations: Bri/Rog gave him lots of leeway on TCR. They obviously tried to build something for long-term (1-offs are for boyband collab:P) But Paul's history...he's a band-hopper.
This just makes it harder to enjoy Q+PR...heck, backlash coming yer way, Chuck!

p.s. There were little signs. Brian used to jump at every chance praising PR to the skies. At the pre-doc BBC appearance it's Roger saving Brian from having to say anything. He's still diplomatic about it...a gent as always.
Maybe he's fuming after a visit from Fred's ghost ("You told them WUT? my idol?:PP")

Posted by jaq user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 3:45:00 PM
Band-hopper is the word, Jaq!
Posted by Thistleboy 1980 user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 3:49:00 PM
I think its too bad that people feel the need to assign blame and to make villains out of people when none of us know the dynamics that led to the collaboration ending. There's a bit of saint and a bit of sinner in everybody. But I have never heard that Paul Rodgers is a "cunt". He was no doubt well remunerated financially for his effort, but still, to take time out of your life, to step into another man's shoes, sing another man's songs, and do it with verve and energy and enthusiasm is no small feat - particularly when you're at the same time opening yourself up to a potential avalanche of criticism. That the Q+PR enterprise came together at all, that it worked as well as it did, and went on as long as it did is nothing short of a small miracle, even considering the cool reception TCR received. For those of us who came into the Queen fold post-Magic Tour, it was an incredible experience and opportunity but nothing lasts forever. That's the nature of things, regardless of who might or might not have been "a cunt".
Posted by Dr Zoidberg user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 4:11:00 PM
Dr Zoidberg wrote: I think its too bad that people feel the need to assign blame and to make villains out of people when none of us know the dynamics that led to the collaboration ending. There's a bit of saint and a bit of sinner in everybody. But I have never heard that Paul Rodgers is a "cunt". He was no doubt well remunerated financially for his effort, but still, to take time out of your life, to step into another man's shoes, sing another man's songs, and do it with verve and energy and enthusiasm is no small feat - particularly when you're at the same time opening yourself up to a potential avalanche of criticism. That the Q+PR enterprise came together at all, that it worked as well as it did, and went on as long as it did is nothing short of a small miracle, even considering the cool reception TCR received. For those of us who came into the Queen fold post-Magic Tour, it was an incredible experience and opportunity but nothing lasts forever. That's the nature of things, regardless of who might or might not have been "a cunt".
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Well, he did beat Mick Ralphs up....and is also a band-hopper.  Agreed RE the shows, in fact I couldn't agree more,  but I think the signs point towards PR being the problem and the reason for the break-up.  He is an ex-boxer and a 2nd degree blackbelt in oragami or whatever, so I reckon he does have some pent up anger issues lol

Posted by Thistleboy 1980 user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 4:28:00 PM
Thistleboy 1980 wrote: My mate was even wearing a Queen+PR shirt, and was asked to kindly cover it! 
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Please cover your offensive Paul Rogers gear lest Mr. May become upset.  Really? That's pretty extreme, and not entirely unrevealing.   It usually takes two to create tension and friction, but just one can be the major force in a falling out.  Brian is wonderful in a hundred ways, but he also has some pretty strange and rigid ways of sorting people into his personal piles of  villains and heroes. I can certainly see him being the key force in establishing and sustaining a feud far past where somebody with a more flexible and relaxed personality would take it.

Posted by GratefulFan user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 4:35:00 PM
GratefulFan wrote: Thistleboy 1980 wrote: My mate was even wearing a Queen+PR shirt, and was asked to kindly cover it! 
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Please cover your offensive Paul Rogers gear lest Mr. May become upset.  Really? That's pretty extreme, and not entirely unrevealing.   It usually takes two to create tension and friction, but just one can be the major force in a falling out.  Brian is wonderful in a hundred ways, but he also has some pretty strange and rigid ways of sorting people into his personal piles of  villains and heroes. I can certainly see him being the key force in establishing and sustaining a feud far past where somebody with a more flexible and relaxed personality would take it. =============================================================================================

It does look pretty childish (about the T-shirt, that is, because he should remain professional.  But maybe he wouldn't have reacted angrily, who knows?  Maybe it was just an over-zealous official being too cautious???).  However, if the situation is the way I am lead to believe it is, I cannot blame Brian for being pissed off.

Posted by Thistleboy 1980 user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 4:42:00 PM
It's also worth considering how each of us views the collaboration. For myself, I viewed it as three equals, all coming to the table with talents, songs and ideas, both on tour and on the album.

You might say, "Well, it was mostly Queen songs on the tours, with a few token Paul Rodgers songs sprinkled throughout." I think that's a little simplistic. Let's take a look...

Here are the songs, their original context and then who sung it live:

Reaching Out = PR + BM (PR)
Tie Your Mother Down = Q (PR)
I Want To Break Free = Q (PR)
Fat Bottomed Girls = Q (PR)
Wishing Well = PR (PR)
Another One Bites The Dust = Q (PR)
Crazy Little Thing Called Love = Q (PR)
Say It's Not True = Q (RT)
'39 = Q (BM)
I Was Born To Love You = FM (RT + BM)
Love Of My Life = Q (BM)
Hammer To Fall = Q (BM + PR)
Feel Like Makin' Love = PR (PR)
Let There Be Drums = Sandy Nelson cover (N/A)
Guitar Solo = Q (N/A)
Last Horizon = BM (N/A)
These Are The Days Of Our Lives = Q (RT)
Radio Ga Ga = Q (RT + PR)
Can't Get Enough = PR (PR)
Seagull = PR (PR)
A Kind Of Magic = Q (PR)
I Want It All = Q (PR)
Bohemian Rhapsody = Q (FM + PR)
The Show Must Go On = Q (PR)
All Right Now = PR (PR)
We Will Rock You = Q (PR)
We Are The Champions = Q (PR)
God Save The Queen = Trad. (N/A)

So, in the end, Paul sang 16 to 17 songs, 5 to 6 of them were his from other projects. That's about 30% 

8 to 9 songs he didn't sing on at all, either because Roger and/or Brian did, or they were instrumental. 1 was a recording (GSTQ). That's about 30% as well.

So, at the end of the day, Paul sung about 66 to 70% of the songs per concert on the first tour, half were his. The other 30% were Brian and Roger.

That's a pretty balanced representation.

Posted by rhyeking user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 4:45:00 PM
That's some pretty neat stats RK, but what point are you making?
Posted by Thistleboy 1980 user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 4:48:00 PM
That sounded cheeky.  I didn't mean it like that RK lol.
Posted by Thistleboy 1980 user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 4:52:00 PM
Thistleboy 1980 wrote:

It does look pretty childish (about the T-shirt, that is, because he should remain professional.  But maybe he wouldn't have reacted angrily, who knows?  Maybe it was just an over-zealous official being too cautious???).  However, if the situation is the way I am lead to believe it is, I cannot blame Brian for being pissed off.
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Thing is, Brian is perpetually pissed off.  Truthfully I'm about worn out of his pissedoffedness, though never worn out of him.  At some point I think you do have to start adjusting your filter for people who seem to be perpetually mad at everything and everyone that doesn't conform to whatever it is they think others ought to think/do/be. Like it or not, that does indicate a tendency to raging ego at least sometimes, or perhaps more accurately egocentrism.  That can't be easy to work with all the time.

I love, love, love Rodgers' work, but as a human being he's always struck me as kind of a shallow drip, entirely average in almost every way.  That might get kind of annoying too.  But one guy is talking reunion and one guy apparently has a 'very, very sore spot' and by coincidence that same guy also happens to be a bit of a festering pit of sore spots.  So I'd be inclined to think that Brian would be the bigger part of the problem, particularly if 'the problem' is not only the original reasons for the falling out but the path to ironing out any issues and moving forward.

Posted by GratefulFan user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 5:28:00 PM
No more Paul Rodgers, please! He sucks!
Posted by Bo Alex user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 8:01:00 PM
One thing is true. We don't know the truth on this. At least they are publicly being adults about it.  I got to see Queen live because Paul agreed to sing.
Posted by The Dude user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 8:11:00 PM
Bo Alex wrote:

No more Paul Rodgers, please! He sucks!

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According to what criteria?

According to my criteria, he is the only person to have been in three bands that sold over a million records each.  Whether or not I like his style, I'd say he's pretty good!

Posted by Sir GH user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 9:13:00 PM
Sir GH wrote: Bo Alex wrote:

No more Paul Rodgers, please! He sucks!

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According to what criteria?

According to my criteria, he is the only person to have been in three bands that sold over a million records each.  Whether or not I like his style, I'd say he's pretty good! 

According to my own point of view, of course.To me, it's just my subjectivity that counts. I don't like his style and I don't think it fit with Queen songs. To me, he just sucks.
Anyway, I have to admit that due to the whole Q+PR thing I could see them live in 2008.

Posted by Bo Alex user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 9:46:00 PM
Bo Alex wrote:

I don't like his style and I don't think it fit with Queen songs.

To me, he just sucks.

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The first statement is fair, but the second one isn't.  Just because you feel like he doesn't do Queen songs justice doesn't mean he sucks.  Paul is a blues singer, and blues is the predecessor to rock and roll... they are very interconnected.

What is it with closed-minded Queen fans who can't accept any interpretation of a Queen song by someone who doesn't sound like Freddie?

It's like those Beatles fans who scoffed at the Across The Universe soundtrack because the arrangements were different, or the classical snobs who think Glenn Gould's Bach Variations are sacrilege.  I think these marriages are refreshing and give the music new life.  Art is meant to grow with new interpretations ... not remain static forever.

Posted by Sir GH user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 10:34:00 PM
Sir GH wrote: Bo Alex wrote:

I don't like his style and I don't think it fit with Queen songs.

To me, he just sucks.

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The first statement is fair, but the second one isn't.  Just because you feel like he doesn't do Queen songs justice doesn't mean he sucks.  Paul is a blues singer, and blues is the predecessor to rock and roll... they are very interconnected.

What is it with closed-minded Queen fans who can't accept any interpretation of a Queen song by someone who doesn't sound like Freddie?

It's like those Beatles fans who scoffed at the Across The Universe soundtrack because the arrangements were different, or the classical snobs who think Glenn Gould's Bach Variations are sacrilege.  I think these marriages are refreshing and give the music new life.  Art is meant to grow with new interpretations ... not remain static forever.

Why you ripping on the guy?....calling him close-minded.  Just because he doesn't think pauls voice fits the Queen sound doesn't make him close-minded.    I agree with alex as far as that is concerned.  i don't agree with the "he sucks" comment.  His own material never sounded better with Queen behind him,  and is a legend in his own right.  I just don't like him in queen.   You don't have to like every note Brian plays Bob.

Posted by mike hunt user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 10:56:00 PM
The point with the earlier stats was that the Queen + Paul Rodgers collaboration was more or less equal between the three men. I've read thoughts here and elsewhere along the lines of "Paul filling Freddie's shoes" or "they needed a singer...", which are both only accurate to a point. And I acknowledge I'm taking those statements slightly out of context.

Yes, Paul was singing songs Freddie had perfected, but Paul was not a hired gun to fill the Freddie-less void in Queen. I'm not saying everyone here thought that he was, but I sense some folks (here and in the real world) did view him as something like that.

When it comes right down to it, Paul was an equally contributing member of the team, which was not *QUEEN!!!* + paul rodgers (or vice versa). As an equal partner, he's allowed his share of the resulting promotion, renewed interest and expanded fan base. Wasn't that part of the original intent, to pool resources, talents and their *names*?

As I said before, I don't know what caused the end of the partnership, if it had anything to do with anything discussed here, but I think for those 5 years, Paul appears to have pulled his own weight and if so, deserves to reap some of the rewards for the effort (as do Brian and Roger!).

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

Oh, and no offence taken by the question about the stats. 

:-)

Posted by rhyeking user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/1/2011 10:56:00 PM
"It's like those Beatles fans who scoffed at the Across The Universe soundtrack because the arrangements were different"

Nah... it wasn't just because of the arrangements.  It generally stank on ice.  Not unilaterally, not entirely ... but for the most part it was piss on the sidewalk of music.  It was kind of disappointing, as I'd liked the concept when it was described to me.

Posted by Zebonka12 user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/2/2011 12:36:00 AM
mike hunt wrote:

Just because he doesn't think pauls voice fits the Queen sound doesn't make him close-minded.

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Correct.  But he did say that Paul Rodgers sucks for the sole reason that he felt he doesn't fit the Queen sound.  That's a very different statement, and the very definition of closed-minded.

There's more to Paul than what he did with Queen, but some of these people are so obsessed with Queen to the point that they'll hate anyone who sings Queen songs in a new way.  Not liking his interpretations is one thing, but to hate the artist in his totality for this reason is another.

I bet most of these Queen fans who hate Paul probably can't even name a single song of his that wasn't in the QPR setlists.

I guess it just saddens me that so many people are full of hate when it comes to music.  Politics and religion are supposed to divide us, not music ... it should unite us.  To actually hate a person who makes a living off entertaining people and hasn't done harm to anyone ... I just can't understand the mentality.

Posted by Sir GH user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/2/2011 1:39:00 AM
Sir GH wrote: mike hunt wrote:

Just because he doesn't think pauls voice fits the Queen sound doesn't make him close-minded.

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Correct.  But he did say that Paul Rodgers sucks for the sole reason that he felt he doesn't fit the Queen sound.  That's a very different statement, and the very definition of closed-minded.

There's more to Paul than what he did with Queen, but some of these people are so obsessed with Queen to the point that they'll hate anyone who sings Queen songs in a new way.  Not liking his interpretations is one thing, but to hate the artist in his totality for this reason is another.

I bet most of these Queen fans who hate Paul probably can't even name a single song of his that wasn't in the QPR setlists.

I guess it just saddens me that so many people are full of hate when it comes to music.  Politics and religion are supposed to divide us, not music ... it should unite us.  To actually hate a person who makes a living off entertaining people and hasn't done harm to anyone ... I just can't understand the mentality.

Hates a strong word....how about dislike?....every group has these Obsessed fans.  Queen has these, but fans of other bands are even worse....Most grow out of that obessed stage, some never grow up.   On another note......  Nice comments by Paul Rodger's regarding Freddie in a recent interview.  the More people learn about freddie the more respect they have for him.  The more they dig inside the music and all the rare gems that wern't hits,  and towards the end of his life still rocking away and never saying "poor me."   just wanted to point that out......paul has nothing but good things to say about Queen.

Posted by mike hunt user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/2/2011 3:38:00 AM
I really hope they do it again.

I didn't go first time 'round, thinking "Oh this isn't Queen, I don't want to see some guy trying to replace Freddie", which of course was a stupid way of looking at it. I was sorry I didn't go, and I'd jump at the chance if they do it again. It's still half of the Original Queen at the end of the day.

Posted by OneTrackMind user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/2/2011 6:55:00 AM
The Vienna concert on their 2008 tour was my first "Queen" concert ever. I didn't know that it will be my last, too :-(

I want more, of course

Posted by pittrek user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/2/2011 7:01:00 AM
GratefulFan wrote: Thistleboy 1980 wrote:

It does look pretty childish (about the T-shirt, that is, because he should remain professional.  But maybe he wouldn't have reacted angrily, who knows?  Maybe it was just an over-zealous official being too cautious???).  However, if the situation is the way I am lead to believe it is, I cannot blame Brian for being pissed off.
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Thing is, Brian is perpetually pissed off.  Truthfully I'm about worn out of his pissedoffedness, though never worn out of him.  At some point I think you do have to start adjusting your filter for people who seem to be perpetually mad at everything and everyone that doesn't conform to whatever it is they think others ought to think/do/be. Like it or not, that does indicate a tendency to raging ego at least sometimes, or perhaps more accurately egocentrism.  That can't be easy to work with all the time.

I love, love, love Rodgers' work, but as a human being he's always struck me as kind of a shallow drip, entirely average in almost every way.  That might get kind of annoying too.  But one guy is talking reunion and one guy apparently has a 'very, very sore spot' and by coincidence that same guy also happens to be a bit of a festering pit of sore spots.  So I'd be inclined to think that Brian would be the bigger part of the problem, particularly if 'the problem' is not only the original reasons for the falling out but the path to ironing out any issues and moving forward.
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But is there a need for them to "move forward" with Paul?  Looks to me like PR is just trying to capitalise on Queen's recent resurgence....and you know the saying "once bitten twice shy".  I really can't blame Brian.

Posted by Thistleboy 1980 user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/2/2011 7:16:00 AM
I´d be happy to see them work together again. I think that some of you have a short memory a bit.... How I think that it really happened?

- in 2004/5 era, when QPR collaboration began, PR himself kindly said, that Queen songs were not played for long time live, so he wants to give fans the chance to hear basically this stuff. 20 from 25 songs were from Queen in setlist, Paul´s tracks were just basically "must be" tracks like All Right Now, Cant Get Enough, Feel Like Making Love or Wishing Well. That was compromise from him. Dont forget - before the tour, fans were almost "afraid" of 50:50 setlist and it was just a collaboration of 2 big artists (Queen / Paul Rodgers), so it would not be suprising.

- then they did their own new stuff, new album together. I believe that cause of friction was just because of setlist and that ballancing of old Queen songs (and almost all of them were done previously on 2005 Tour, so fans already had a chance to hear them before!), new stuff and Paul´s tracks. Go through the setlists of 2008 Tour and just think which tracks were dropped in favour of newly added QPR tracks.... Wishing Well and Feel Like Making Love were dropped for new tracks and NO Queen song was dropped beside of short version of One Vision.... After that came the problems with Surf´s Up Schools Out introduction which Paul and Roger liked, but Brian hated and then they made a biggest mistake of the tour with horrible opening Hammer To Fall.

Compare it - beginning of tour.... later tour:
Bad Company.................... A Kind Of Magic (sung by Roger)
Warboys...............................Bad Company
Feel Like Makin' Love........We Believe
Guitar Solo......................... Guitar Solo

Paul was doing to much compromises and I think that it was cause of problem between him and Brian.

Posted by ptr user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/2/2011 7:28:00 AM
Q+PR was a great experiment that I was hugely in favour of at the start, but it ran its full course pretty quickly.  Paul Rodgers does what he does, and that's okay.  It's pretty obvious that he can bring little (if anything) more to the table.  They played some great shows, made a lot of people happy, and recorded a fairly average album.  (People seem to take the word 'average' as some sort of insult - I'm speaking about the album generally though, as it has some great moments that I will hold up against anything).

Having said all that, I'd be glad if they never worked together again.  Onward and upward - I think Brian and Roger should seek some self esteem and just record together.  They really are good enough.

Posted by Zebonka12 user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/2/2011 9:52:00 AM
Zebonka12 wrote: Q+PR was a great experiment that I was hugely in favour of at the start, but it ran its full course pretty quickly.  Paul Rodgers does what he does, and that's okay.  It's pretty obvious that he can bring little (if anything) more to the table.  They played some great shows, made a lot of people happy, and recorded a fairly average album.  (People seem to take the word 'average' as some sort of insult - I'm speaking about the album generally though, as it has some great moments that I will hold up against anything).

Having said all that, I'd be glad if they never worked together again.  Onward and upward - I think Brian and Roger should seek some self esteem and just record together.  They really are good enough.
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Well put Zeb, so I'd second that!

Posted by Thistleboy 1980 user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/2/2011 10:24:00 AM
There was always friction inside Queen - as you could just hear in the new BBC documentary. So if there is or was some friction between Paul Rodgers and Brian May it should not be overrated. 

I always wonder, if all those people who complain about Paul Rodgers ever have been to a show. Watching videos does not give the real picture. I saw them in Dortmund where I used to see the original Queen.
And it was a night to remember ! There was more presence of Freddie in the building than in the days when he was really there. I have never witnessed something like that before. And Paul Rodgers did a great job finding the right balance. I have also seen the several videos and heard the recordings, but they do not give the full picture.

So if they decide to carry on - fine !
What goes on behind the scenes should not be our cup of tea. I don't know of any band without any friction from time to time....

Posted by Soundfreak user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/2/2011 10:42:00 AM
mike hunt wrote:

Nice comments by Paul Rodger's regarding Freddie in a recent interview.  the More people learn about freddie the more respect they have for him.  The more they dig inside the music and all the rare gems that wern't hits,  and towards the end of his life still rocking away and never saying "poor me."   just wanted to point that out......paul has nothing but good things to say about Queen.

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Exactly my point ... Paul is an exemplary class act.

Posted by Sir GH user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/2/2011 11:07:00 AM
Thistleboy 1980 wrote: =============================================================================================

Well, he did beat Mick Ralphs up....and is also a band-hopper.  Agreed RE the shows, in fact I couldn't agree more,  but I think the signs point towards PR being the problem and the reason for the break-up.  He is an ex-boxer and a 2nd degree blackbelt in oragami or whatever, so I reckon he does have some pent up anger issues lol

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That was, what, like 35 years ago? I don't think you can judge someone's present day behavior based on something they did decades ago. People grow up.

Like I said, I don't think anyone outside the trio and their immediate circles know what happened, and so I don't think it does any good to assign blame based on idle speculation and fannish biases. I mean, I love Brian May to bits but he does seem like a bit of a pill sometimes, so who knows.

Posted by Dr Zoidberg user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/2/2011 11:22:00 AM
Maybe they should get Gary Mullen in and have done with it  :)
Posted by OneTrackMind user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/2/2011 11:26:00 AM
Dr Zoidberg wrote:

I don't think anyone outside the trio and their immediate circles know what happened, and so I don't think it does any good to assign blame based on idle speculation and fannish biases. =============================================================================================

Could you please go back to page one and read where the story came from?

Posted by Thistleboy 1980 user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/2/2011 11:30:00 AM
Thistleboy 1980 wrote:

But is there a need for them to "move forward" with Paul?  Looks to me like PR is just trying to capitalise on Queen's recent resurgence....and you know the saying "once bitten twice shy".  I really can't blame Brian.
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Of course not.  But again it's not unrevealing that he seems willing to burn bridges with a fellow artist and one time collaborator to the point that his distaste for him has become publicly palpable, when everybody else in the mix seems willing to leave the door open for one offs etc. This is particularly true in an anniversary year, probably their last 'big' anniversary year, when it would be great to have all possibilities open.

And it leaves Roger kind of holding the bag for the public diplomacy and such.  Roger has disproportionately had to distance or differentiate himself from Brian's public statements and better known private sentiments over the years. The entire point of this is that there is an overwhelming indication that Brian is not always, and perhaps even not often, an easy guy.  These conversations usually come up when it's perceived that people are too soft on him, usually at the expense of somebody else, in this case Paul Rodgers.

Posted by GratefulFan user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/2/2011 11:35:00 AM
Thistleboy 1980 wrote:

Well, he did beat Mick Ralphs up.... He is an ex-boxer and a 2nd degree blackbelt in oragami or whatever, so I reckon he does have some pent up anger issues lol

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Freddie Mercury threw a brick through his manager's window ... because their manager left a restaurant after Mercury broke his "don't talk to the press" rule.

He also once smashed a mirror over his assistant's head and demanded he clean it up..

Consistency, people .. consistency.

Posted by Sir GH user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/2/2011 1:35:00 PM
Sir GH wrote: Thistleboy 1980 wrote:

Well, he did beat Mick Ralphs up.... He is an ex-boxer and a 2nd degree blackbelt in oragami or whatever, so I reckon he does have some pent up anger issues lol

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Freddie Mercury threw a brick through his manager's window ... because their manager left a restaurant after Mercury broke his "don't talk to the press" rule.

He also once smashed a mirror over his assistant's head and demanded he clean it up..

Consistency, people .. consistency.

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Yeah, but Freddie was allowed because he was on his period lol

Posted by Thistleboy 1980 user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/2/2011 2:09:00 PM
I like Paul as a talent and I think it was pretty nice of him to go on tour and sing so many songs he didn't write.  

We don't know what made it come to an end but we do know that Paul had intended it to be a short-term collaboration due to his solo work, as he stated in the interviews pretty early on.  

If Brian and Roger get another singer and go out on tour or just go out on their own, it would be great.

Posted by Donna13 user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/2/2011 3:19:00 PM
Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote: I was hoping some collaboration would happen this year, and I thought it was probable that they would play with Paul again in this process. I changed my mind when I saw the Days of Our Lives BBC Documentary (part 2). The mention to the QPR tours and to TCR was really fast and led me to think they consider it something from the past. These are all (somewhat) educated guesses, I know.

Cheers,

Ogre-

the albums wasn't mentioned. The 4 years with Paul were edited down to Roger saying "The Paul Rodgers tour was (SINGULAR!!) great. He's a great singer, completely different from Freddie"

Posted by e-man user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/2/2011 6:11:00 PM
Thanks to the Cosmos Tour my friends and I saw Brian & Roger live! It was in Murcia, Spain, in one of the five open air shows of the tour (Kharkiv,Murcia,Dubai, Argentina and Chile) This was my first concert in a stadium too.

It was the whole cloudy day and we were afraid because maybe they cancel the gig if rain, but thanks to God the night was fantastic, the band open with the Thunders/Surf's Up/YEAAAAH/Hammer To Fall and played the usual setlist. Of course Bijou and Rhapsody were the most emotive moments of the night. We saw the concert very near to Brian and the whole band was on fire, maybe they are impressed for the wild crowd (wild in the good way), we sang all the songs, Paul noticed that in Another One Bites the Dust and did a singalong with the audience (eoooo- eooooo!!) after the song end. At this point  i remember think that Paul was a nice guy. We are waiting for the I Want It All Solo and Dr. May did a great work as usual, fantastic!
Mr. Rodgers did a superb version of Seagull that night, one of my friends was very impressed and adopted ''Seagull'' as his favourite song from that day.
The Roger solo was another top moment of the night, we never saw something like this, in '39 the crowd didn't sang so much but in ''Love of my Life'' did it at top voice, Brian gave thanks to us for this, and said that this was his first visit in Murcia, but not his first visit in Spain.
The part of the Brian Solo/Bijou/Last Horizon was one of my favourites moments of that night, in the solo Brian played riffs from ''Keep Yourself Alive'' and ''Now I'm Here'' and was in top form 
With Radio Ga Ga the impressed was the band, all the stadium do the clap with the hands, and that was fantastic, but they LET US SING one complete verse of the song! I never noticed they did that in the past or in the future! Even Paul said something about this!
I enjoyed so much Cosmos Rockin', a great song live. And again all the stadium clap their hands and sing along with We Will Rock You.
It was a incredible night.

One of my friends told me that during God Save The Queen, Paul asked something to Brian, and this responsed with a negative.

We could live that night thanks to the reunion of Paul with Brian and Roger.

(again, sorry if my english is not the best)

Posted by flu user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/2/2011 8:12:00 PM
Sir GH wrote: mike hunt wrote:

Just because he doesn't think pauls voice fits the Queen sound doesn't make him close-minded.

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Correct.  But he did say that Paul Rodgers sucks for the sole reason that he felt he doesn't fit the Queen sound.  That's a very different statement, and the very definition of closed-minded.

There's more to Paul than what he did with Queen, but some of these people are so obsessed with Queen to the point that they'll hate anyone who sings Queen songs in a new way.  Not liking his interpretations is one thing, but to hate the artist in his totality for this reason is another.

I bet most of these Queen fans who hate Paul probably can't even name a single song of his that wasn't in the QPR setlists.

I guess it just saddens me that so many people are full of hate when it comes to music.  Politics and religion are supposed to divide us, not music ... it should unite us.  To actually hate a person who makes a living off entertaining people and hasn't done harm to anyone ... I just can't understand the mentality.
I didn't want to be rude or close-minded, but I just wanted to express my opinion. I respect guys like Sir GH and Pittrek a lot, without knowing nothing personal about them. We are just talking about music, mere musical tastes. It's not something objective. It's pure subjectivity. I don't think i'm close-minded at all. I just don't like Paul Rodgers. It's just what I'm think. To me, he sucks, in every way. Even the way he is dressed. That doesn't mean he universally sucks. It's just musical tastes, not Science. I can't even find the words to express my idea. My English sucks too.

I don't care if he is a blues singer or if he like to eat another human beings. In my point of view, in my subjective experience of the world, he simply sucks. That's all. I don't think I'm the only one who thinks that way.

Excuse for my English. Cheers.

Posted by Bo Alex user is on Queenzone.com
on 6/3/2011 8:14:00 PM