The Class 17 Claytons - BR's Standard Type 1?

From 1963 - The new Clayton Type 1 diesel-electric Bo-Bo has been officially proclaimed as the standard BR design in this power category. Nevertheless, it seems that changes of equipment within a diesel locomotive type, necessitating further crew training as fresh batches appear, are still licensed. The first batch of the new Type 1s has GEC electrical equipment; but it is now announced that the 29 to be built by Beyer Peacock for the E and NER will have Crompton Parkinson electrical equipment.


                                                                                                               (Photo courtesy Roys Rail Pages)

The Class 17 'Claytons' were unique amongst the early diesels, the only type having a centre cab with two engines in lower bonnets at either end. The design evolved after visibilty problems with other type one machines with only one cab and a single long bonnet, notably the Class 15s and 20s.


Doyen of the Class No. D8500 seen here at Polmadie, 27th December 1962. Photographs
of these machines make them look impressively large but at 50ft 7.5ins they were only
3ft longer than a Class 20.
(Photograph courtesy The David Hills Collection)

The majority of the class were fitted with two Davey Paxman 6-cyl horizontal engines, originally designed for railcars, although two examples, D8586 & D8587 received Rolls Royce 8-cyl D Type engines de-rated to 450hp and could be identified by a raised section in the bonnets to accommodate the units. Built in Hatton, near Derby, with the last batch (D8588 - D8616) being delivered from Beyer Peacock, the class were envisaged to be the standard Type 1 locomotive for British Rail, but in reality, were soon recognised as a complete failure, due to the troublesome Paxman engines, which were prone to camshaft failures and fractured crankcases.


D8587, one of the two machines powered by Rolls Royce Type D engines, identifiable by the raised centre sections
of the bonnets. For this official photograph, the axleboxes, springs, and brake
cylinders were picked out in grey and lime green! 
(Photo Clayton Equipment Company)

The problems became so acute that, in February 1963 all of the Claytons newly delivered to Polmadie were temporally withdrawn from service and placed in store, whilst at Derby 20 brand new machines were set aside pending rectifications. Indeed, the depot had to resort to loaning steam locomotives from the NER and even reinstating withdrawn examples from its own books. It seems the problems still hadn't been resolved by March of the same year, and several of the locomotives were additionally stored at Parkhead. The problems were never fully resolved so much so that the first locomotives began to be withdrawn only three years after the last machine had been built.
The class originally numbered 117 locomotives; the majority of the class on introduction were allocated to the Scottish Regions Polmadie and Haymarket depots although later built examples saw their first homes on the Eastern Region; D8588 - 91 to Thornaby, D8592 - D8603 to Gateshead, D8604 - D8615 to Tinsley and suprisingly D8616 to Barrow Hill. Polmadies initial deliveries saw them on crew-training trips to Ayr. In September 1963 two machines, D8501 and D8536 were temporarily loaned firstly to the Tyne Dock area and were tested in multiple on Consett iron ore trains. Results proved that the locomotives were far too underpowered for local requirements. A move later the same months saw the two based at Ardsley, and trails were carried out over a wide area on duties involving the machines both coupled in multiple and as single units hauling a variety of freight traffic. It seems however that the Eastern Region did not find favour with their new motive power and future years saw all of the ER based examples moved to the Scottish Region. 
The class' demise began in October 1968, with the last locomotive being withdrawn some three years later. In 1975 it was reported that nine of the withdrawn machines (two of which were 8525 & 8529) were to be refurbished and converted to battery-electric locomotives for use on the GN line electrification trains; a move that never came.


D8510 on the Scottish region in the early sixties. Note the recess in the cabside, intended for the
fitting of tablet catching equipment; few locomotives, if any, received this addition.
(Photograph courtesy The David Hills Collection)

Three examples, D8512, D8521 and D8598 enjoyed a reprieve and joined the odd fleet of abandoned locomotives used for testing trains at the research centre at Derby, although their use in hauling trains is little documented. D8521 was renumbered S18521 and later 18521 and was the subject of a project to produce a mobile generator, and was recognisable by various modifications to one bonnet. One machine, however, after being sold for industrial use, surprisingly went on into preservation, and D8568 remains the only example surviving today, and can now be seen at the Chinnor & Princes Risborough Railway. Initial livery for the class saw the standard brunswick green applied with the addition of a pleasing lime green added to the side window areas and fronts of the cabs. Several examples were noted with their numbers applied to the bufferbeams. Small yellow warning panels were added to the fronts at a later date. Selected locomotives received standard rail blue with yellow front ends towards the end of their lives.


To the grave in green. Selected members of the class met their end without receiving rail blue livery. Here D8563, and an unidentified stablemate, both in green but with full yellow front ends, await their fate at Glasgow Works, 17th May 1975.
(Photo courtesy Malcom Best)


One of the Class 17's destined to become one of the Derby Research
Centre locomotives, 8512, resplendent in rail blue livery with red buffer
beams, pictured unusually at Longsight depot in the late 1960's. The machine was withdrawn from regular BR traffic in October 1968.
(Photo Jeff Clements, courtesy of UK Wayfarer)


8512 again, this time in its final years of use on the Derby Research
Centres Mickleover line. The locomotive is flanked by the centres two
'aquired' Class 35 Hymek locomotives, 7096 (nearest the camera) and the now preserved D7076.
(Photo courtesy David Hills)

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Class History

No.

Works No.

Introduced

Withdrawn

Disposal Details

Date Cut

D8500 4365U1 09/62 03/71 BREL Glasgow 11/71
D8501 4365U2 10/62 10/68 BREL Glasgow 12/71
D8502 4365U3 10/62 10/71 BREL Glasgow 01/73
D8503 4365U4 10/62 10/71 BREL Glasgow 06/72
D8504 4365U5 10/62 11/71 J Cashmore, Great Bridge 10/75
D8505 4365U6 10/62 10/71 BREL Glasgow 05/74
D8506 4365U7 10/62 09/71 BREL Glasgow 12/71
D8507 4365U8 10/62 12/71 A.King, Norwich 09/75
D8508 4365U9 10/62 12/71 A.King, Norwich 10/75
D8509 4365U10 11/62 10/68 BREL Glasgow 01/72
D8510 4365U11 11/62 03/71 BREL Glasgow 11/71
D8511 4365U14 11/62 10/68 J.McWilliam, Shettleston 08/70
D8512 4365U16 12/62 12/68 To departmental stock - 8512 then BREL Glasgow 01/73
D8513 4365U13 12/62 09/71 BREL Glasgow 12/71
D8514 4365U12 07/63 10/68 BREL Glasgow 01/72
D8515 4365U20 08/63 10/71 BREL Glasgow 09/72
D8516 4365U19 04/63 10/71 A.King, Norwich 10/75
D8517 4365U18 06/63 10/68 J.McWilliam, Shettleston 09/70
D8518 4365U15 04/63 10/68 BREL Glasgow 02/72
D8519 4365U22 07/63 10/68 BREL Glasgow 05/72
D8520 4365U23 05/63 10/68 BREL Glasgow 05/72
D8521 4365U17 07/63 10/68 To departmental stock - S18521, 18521 then BREL Glasgow 04/79
D8522 4365U24 06/63 10/68 BREL Glasgow 05/72
D8523 4365U25 07/63 10/68 BREL Glasgow 06/72
D8524 4365U26 07/63 10/68 J.McWilliam, Shettleston 09/70
D8525 4365U27 08/63 10/71 A.King, Norwich 09/75
D8526 4365U28 08/63 10/68 BREL Glasgow 05/72
D8527 4365U29 08/63 12/68 BREL Glasgow 06/72
D8528 4365U30 07/63 10/71 BREL Glasgow 07/73
D8529 4365U31 05/63 12/71 A.King, Norwich 09/75
D8530 4365U32 04/63 03/71 BREL Glasgow 10/71
D8531 4365U33 05/63 09/71 A.King, Norwich 10/75
D8532 4365U34 07/63 12/68 BREL Glasgow 06/72
D8533 4365U35 08/63 10/68 BREL Glasgow 01/72
D8534 4365U36 06/63 10/68 BREL Glasgow 02/73
D8535 4365U21 07/63 03/71 BREL Glasgow 11/71
D8536 4365U37 08/63 12/71 A.King, Norwich 10/75
D8537 4365U40 06/63 07/68 J.McWilliam, Shettleston 10/68
D8538 4365U41 06/63 10/71 BREL Glasgow 12/72
D8539 4365U38 06/63 10/71 A.King, Norwich 12/75
D8540 4365U39 08/63 10/71 BREL Glasgow 12/72
D8541 4365U42 06/63 10/71 BREL Glasgow 02/73
D8542 4365U43 08/63 10/71 J.Cashmore, Great Bridge 09/75
D8543 4365U44 09/63 09/71 BREL Glasgow 06/72
D8544 4365U45 09/63 05/69 J.McWilliam, Shettleston 01/71
D8545 4365U46 09/63 10/71 BREL Glasgow 11/73
D8546 4365U47 09/63 10/71 J.Cashmore, Great Bridge 10/75
D8547 4365U48 09/63 02/69 Birds, Long Marston 05/69
D8548 4365U49 09/63 12/71 J.Cashmore, Great Bridge 10/75
D8549 4365U50 10/63 9/71 BREL Glasgow 06/72
D8550 4365U51 11/63 10/71 J.Cashmore, Great Bridge 09/75
D8551 4365U52 10/63 10/71 J.Cashmore, Great Bridge 09/75
D8552 4365U53 10/63 12/71 A.King, Norwich 10/75
D8553 4365U54 10/63 10/68 J.McWilliam, Shettleston 02/69
D8554 4365U55 10/63 06/69 J.McWilliam, Shettleston 03/71
D8555 4365U56 10/63 09/71 BREL Glasgow 05/72
D8556 4365U57 10/63 02/69 Birds, Long Marston 05/69
D8557 4365U58 11/63 09/71 J.McWilliam, Shettleston 08/75
D8558 4365U59 11/63 12/71 BREL Glasgow 02/73
D8559 4365U60 11/63 10/71 BREL Glasgow 04/74
D8560 4365U61 11/63 02/69 Birds, Long Marston 05/69
D8561 4365U62 11/63 02/71 BREL Glasgow 07/73
D8562 4365U63 11/63 10/71 BREL Glasgow 07/73
D8563 4365U64 12/63 12/71 J.Cashmore, Great Bridge 10/75
D8564 4365U65 12/63 02/69 Birds, Long Marston 05/69
D8565 4365U66 12/63 11/71 BREL Glasgow 05/73
D8566 4365U67 12/63 12/68 J.McWilliam, Shettleston 05/69
D8567 4365U68 01/64 10/71 BREL Glasgow 01/73
D8568 4365U69 01/64 10/71 Preserved  
D8569 4365U70 01/64 12/68 J.McWilliam, Shettleston 05/69
D8570 4365U71 01/64 11/68 Birds, Long Marston 05/69
D8571 4365U72 01/64 06/69 J.McWilliam, Shettleston 07/71
D8572 4365U73 01/64 06/69 J.Cashmore, Great Bridge 06/70
D8573 4365U74 01/64 10/71 J.McWilliam, Shettleston 08/75
D8574 4365U75 01/64 12/71 A.King, Norwich 08/75
D8575 4365U76 02/64 10/68 J.McWilliam, Shettleston 04/69
D8576 4365U77 02/64 02/69 Birds, Long Marston 06/69
D8577 4365U78 02/64 02/69 Birds, Long Marston 05/69
D8578 4365U79 03/64 06/69 J.McWilliam, Shettleston 03/71
D8579 4365U80 03/64 10/71 BREL Glasgow 11/73
D8580 4365U81 03/64 10/71 A.King, Norwich 09/75
D8581 4365U82 03/64 10/71 BREL Glasgow 05/74
D8582 4365U83 03/64 01/69 J.McWilliam, Shettleston 06/69
D8583 4365U84 04/64 09/71 BREL Glasgow 08/73
D8584 4365U85 04/64 10/68 J.McWilliam, Shettleston 05/69
D8585 4365U86 05/64 10/68 J.McWilliam, Shettleston 06/69
D8586 4365U87 12/64 09/71 BREL Glasgow 07/73
D8587 4365U88 02/65 10/71 BREL Glasgow 02/74
D8588 8005 03/64 10/71 BREL Glasgow 07/73
D8589 8006 05/64 07/70 BR Gateshead 04/71
D8590 8007 05/64 03/71 BREL Glasgow 05/72
D8591 8008 06/64 12/68 J.McWilliam 06/69
D8592 8009 05/64 09/71 BREL Glasgow 03/72
D8593 8010 05/64 10/71 BREL Glasgow 09/73
D8594 8011 06/64 09/71 BREL Glasgow 03/72
D8595 8012 06/64 12/68 J.McWilliam, Shettleston 05/69
D8596 8013 07/64 12/68 J.McWilliam, Shettleston 06/69
D8597 8014 06/64 10/71 BREL Glasgow 07/73
D8598 8015 08/64 12/71 To departmental stock - 18598 then BREL Glasgow 03/79
D8599 8016 08/64 10/71 BREL Glasgow 11/71
D8600 8017 08/64 10/71 BREL Glasgow 04/73
D8601 8018 09/64 10/71 BREL Glasgow 11/73
D8602 8019 09/64 10/71 BREL Glasgow 04/72
D8603 8020 09/64 10/71 BREL Glasgow 04/72
D8604 8021 09/64 10/71 BREL Glasgow 04/72
D8605 8022 10/64 11/68 A.Draper, Hull 06/70
D8606 8023 10/64 03/71 BREL Glasgow 04/72
D8607 8024 10/64 10/71 J.Cashmore, Great Bridge 08/75
D8608 8025 10/64 10/71 J.Cashmore, Great Bridge 08/75
D8609 8026 11/64 10/68 J.Cashmore, Great Bridge 05/69
D8610 8027 12/64 10/71 BREL Glasgow 08/73
D8611 8028 12/64 10/68 J.Cashmore, Great Bridge 06/69
D8612 8029 01/65 10/71 J.Cashmore, Great Bridge 08/75
D8613 8030 01/65 10/71 J.Cashmore, Great Bridge 08/75
D8614 8031 02/65 10/71 BREL Glasgow 12/72
D8615 8032 03/65 10/71 BREL Glasgow 12/73
D8616 8033 04/65 09/71 J.Cashmore, Great Bridge 08/75

Technical Specifications:

Class: BR Type 1, later Class 17
Builders: D8500 - D8587, Clayton Equipment Company, D8588 - D8616, Beyer Peacock
Purpose: Freight locomotives
Introduced: 1962
Numbers: D8500 - D8616
Weight: 68 tons
Engines: Two Paxman 6ZHXL, 6 cyl, four stroke. Max continuous rated output, 450hp at 1500rpm each. (D8586/7 Two Rolls Royce, 8 cyl Type D, 450hp)
Main Generators: Two General Electric Co. WT800
Traction Motors: Four General Electric WT421. Type of suspension, nose. Type of gear drive, single reduction. (D8568 - D8616, Crompton Parkinson)
Performance: Max. tractive effort, 40000lb at 26.2% adhesion at 1400 amp each generator. Rail hp at continuous rating, 602hp. Full engine output, available between 3 and 60mph
Braking: Air for loco, vacuum for train, giving a brake force of 86.7% of loco weight in working order
Speed: 60mph (maximum permitted service speed)
Curve: 3.5 chains radius curve without gauge widening, at dead slow speed
Train Heating Equipment: Not fitted
Tank Capacities: Engine fuel, 500 gal

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