Testimony about Silver Strand Locals upsets some in small community

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Tom, left, and Joan Follis, right, of Oxnard, look out at the beach while on a morning walk at Silver Strand beach.

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Tom, left, and Joan Follis, right, of Oxnard, look out at the beach while on a morning walk at Silver Strand beach.

When the term "Silver Strand Locals" gained traction decades ago in the small community near the edges of Oxnard and Port Hueneme, the mile-long strip of beach was largely blue collar and a haven for nonconformists such as surfers, skaters, punk rockers, some residents say.

A popular surfing spot where graffiti on a lifeguard tower once proclaimed "if you think you can just pull up and paddle out, you are wrong," Silver Strand was a tight-knit community where neighbors looked out for each other and sometimes resented arrivals of outsiders, residents say.

So when prosecutors in the Brandon McInerney murder trial argued he was a member of a criminal street gang called the Silver Strand Locals, or SSL — and was influenced by white supremacist members of the group — some residents were upset.

Like McInerney's attorneys, residents argue that SSL is simply a mark of local pride for a diverse community, not a gang with white supremacist leanings.

Ventura County Sheriff's Department officials, however, said there is a criminal SSL gang with at least a dozen youths, and deputies recently increased enforcement in the area in response to several assaults. The enforcement is unrelated to the high-profile trial, officials said.

Some residents said the community is being unfairly tarnished because of a small number of people, and that locals who are not gang members have been stopped by authorities just because they have tattoos.

Sheriff's officials said they are not aware of any complaints involving such allegations.

McInerney, who lived in Silver Strand, is charged with murder and a hate crime for the 2008 killing of Larry King, 15, in their classroom at an Oxnard middle school.

Prosecutors said McInerney, now 17, was a SSL gang member. They allege white supremacist ideas influenced his decision to kill King, who told classmates he was gay and wore effeminate clothing. The defense is arguing that SSL is not a gang, and that McInerney killed King because he was provoked and had an abusive childhood.

Dan Swanson, a Simi Valley police detective and white supremacist expert, testified that McInerney was a white supremacist and member of SSL, which he characterized as a criminal street gang.

On the witness stand, several Silver Strand residents disputed the claim about SSL, including David Wentworth, a longtime resident who said the community was "besmirched" by the accusation.

Wentworth spoke for many residents, said Bill Higgins, who has lived in Silver Strand with his wife since 1972. Higgins said the SSL label is a positive mark of community pride that has been around for decades. He acknowledged the community has its problems, but he attributed those to individuals and rejected the idea that SSL is a gang.

"We don't believe it's factual," said Higgins, 66. "My wife and I are in our 60s and we consider ourselves Silver Strand Locals."

Jared Bouchard, general manager of the Channel Islands Beach Community Services District, said he's received at least 10 calls from residents wanting his agency to do something to counter what they see as an unfair characterization of SSL.

Bouchard said it would not be appropriate for him or his agency to take a position on the issue, but he said many are particularly angry over the statements about white supremacist elements in SSL. He said they feel the community is diverse, and that some young people identified as SSL are black or Latino.

To assume anyone with an SSL tattoo or bumper sticker is a white supremacist is simply wrong, Higgins said. "It's just offensive," he said.

Higgins said his wife was once attacked by a man who went to prison for it and came back talking about white power to pump himself up to Silver Strand kids of McInerney's age. While some of the kids "played at" following white supremacist philosophies, there was no serious gang operation with structure or leadership, Higgins said.

Former resident Brandon Cruz said he sees Silver Strand as color blind. Cruz, 49, said that when Swanson interviewed him a few years ago and read him a list of supposed white power members of SSL, he laughed when he heard his nephews' names.

"They're half-black," Cruz said. "They (prosecutors) are grasping at straws and not looking at the real picture."

Senior Deputy District Attorney Maeve Fox, who is prosecuting the McInerney case, declined to comment on the SSL issue.

SSL may be the least active gang in the county, but it's still a criminal street gang, said Sgt. Bill Schierman of the sheriff's West County Gang Unit. He said a dozen or more teens and young adults are in the gang, which has assaulted outsiders to preserve its territory.

He said a gang is defined as a group whose members commit criminal acts for its benefit and have a common name, and SSL meets that criteria. Using violence to protect turf or increase prestige also is part of a gang's definition, he said.

"I'm not sure why they're saying SSL is not a gang," Schierman said.

Gang investigators are determining if SSL members were involved in a July 18 assault in which a man was attacked from behind, knocked unconscious and left on a Silver Strand beach, Schierman said. The attack appeared unprovoked.

The unit also is investigating a July 3 incident in which a Navy serviceman suffered a broken nose, Schierman said. Investigators believe SSL members were involved, but they're not sure if it was a crime or just a fight, he said.

On the witness stand, Wentworth said he was afraid of sheriff's retaliation for testifying and that authorities were asking to see people's tattoos in the community.

Cruz said he was pulled over in Silver Strand by police in July. He said he didn't do anything wrong and the officer wouldn't say why he was pulled over, but he was let go without a citation after the officer checked his license and registration.

Higgins said that when a carpenter friend who is a county employee came to his home recently, deputies asked the young man to take off his shirt to see his tattoos. The man refused, and deputies let him go after asking some additional questions, Higgins said.

He said the community supports the Sheriff's Department, but such incidents erode the community's confidence. "It's a little unnerving," Higgins said.

Schierman said asking to see tattoos of known gang members is standard procedure in gang investigations, and anyone who feels they've been mistreated by police should contact internal affairs. He said he's not aware of any complaints made to the department, and it's unfair for people to launch unfounded allegations.

Schierman said he's focused on people who commit crimes and he doesn't care if law-abiding citizens call themselves SSL, although he's puzzled over why they would do that.

"Maybe back when they were participating in SSL it wasn't a criminal street gang, but now it is," he said. "Their issue should be with the group of individuals who are claiming SSL and committing crimes."Len Newcomb, a private investigator who grew up in Silver Strand and patrolled the area during his career with the Oxnard Police Department, said residents began identifying themselves as Silver Strand Locals as early as the 1970s.

In the 1960s, Silver Strand was populated mostly by lower-income people and Navy families, and they resented it when wealthy Los Angeles folks started building there, moving in and surfing their area, he said. He believes SSL just refers to local residents.

He said outsiders' cars would get smashed if they came to surf there, and some people probably got beaten up, but SSL was not an organized gang.

"Their only hostilities were aimed at people who would come in and invade their neighborhood," said Newcomb, who retired from Oxnard police in 1995. "It's never been a gang."

Newcomb said he likes and respects Maeve Fox, but he thinks she's wrong about SSL. "I don't think it's anything like it's being portrayed," he said.

Cruz agreed. "Don't go blaming a group of people for one individual's action," he said. "We did not do this. We are not a gang. We do not condone what McInerney did."

Cruz said the term SSL is all about community, widely accepted surf etiquette involving respect and safety, and an element of Neighborhood Watch. People's attachment to the label also is due to the community's history as a welcoming place for those who didn't fit in elsewhere, like skaters, surfers and punk rockers, he said.

"It was like the island of misfit toys," Cruz said. "We had a wrench for every nut."

Staff writer Zeke Barlow contributed to this report.

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PleasantValley writes:

It is a joke that the prosecution is trying to paint Silver Strand Locals as a gang. Their case is flimsy and they are being beaten soundly in the trial by a very inexperienced but savvy defense attorney.

SpartanFan writes:

I would say not a gang. I used to hangout with the surfers from Silver Stand and Oxnard Shores some many years ago. They used the label SSL and OSL but they weren't a gang. They were the locals. Not what you would think of when you think of gangs.

EndlessSummer writes:

If guys from a "group of people" go around threatening or beating people up for surfing somewhere I would call that a gang. People aren't "invading their territory," they just happen to be where there are at that time. I've seen it all first hand and its pretty ridiculous.

lrgvanman#241659 writes:

I remember SSL in 1969 when my family and I arrived at Silver Strand Beach and it was a group of surfers and residents who cherished their neighborhood and not a terrorist street gang.

Starphish78 writes:

Wow, finally a story that we can comment on. I was very upset by the way the Star spun the story and with the prosecution for calling Silver Strand Locals gang members. I am a local, I am a teacher and I am not a gang member. The idea that there is a gang in my neighborhood is ridiculous. What is wrong with being proud of where you are from? What is wrong with vibing people that come to your neighborhood and leave trash,act like id&*ts and drive 40mph+ in a 25mph zone? People come to this beach for vacation (1 day or more) and treat the place as such; many have no respect for that fact people live here everyday.
So if being proud of my neighborhood and wanting to make sure people respect it makes me a gang member......

focalmatic writes:

The sheriff department couldn't recall any complaints about police searches in the silver strand area. Well, how convienent for them. It's easier to suddenly forget something than ignore the question. Check out Alberto Gonzales.
Also the US supreme court ruled that a police officer cannot stop someone just to check license and registration. Delaware v. Prouse. This is why they run "DUI" checkpoints.

conman22000#715653 writes:

ssl isnt a gang! its a club!

madman805 writes:

My grandparents wanted to retire at silverstrand beach area back in 1968 but a realitor told them "you dont want to live here this is a run down area" and told them about a new housing area at the Tierra Vista area.So they bought a house on Olds rd.Now where is the ghetto.

Rascal writes:

in response to Starphish78:

Wow, finally a story that we can comment on. I was very upset by the way the Star spun the story and with the prosecution for calling Silver Strand Locals gang members. I am a local, I am a teacher and I am not a gang member. The idea that there is a gang in my neighborhood is ridiculous. What is wrong with being proud of where you are from? What is wrong with vibing people that come to your neighborhood and leave trash,act like id&*ts and drive 40mph+ in a 25mph zone? People come to this beach for vacation (1 day or more) and treat the place as such; many have no respect for that fact people live here everyday.
So if being proud of my neighborhood and wanting to make sure people respect it makes me a gang member......

The line between being "proud" of your neighborhood and overreacting in a gang-like way is very thin, kind of like the thin line between an angry lynch mob (aka vigilantes) and true concerned citizens trying to do the right thing. Granted, local police may not always be there when you want/need them, but 9 out of 10 times you're better off letting them do their job regardless of how neighborhood proud you are.

weluvgai#248337 writes:

I've lived in VC all my life and Silver Strand has always had a reputation of being confrontational with non locals. My friends and I use to go surfing there and never really encountered any hostility. On the other hand I know people who have. There's always a "our turf" attitude at every good surf spot. Anyone who surf knows the perfect wave is rare so when the conditions are good and you have to compete for that wave with 20 other surfers the guys who go out everyday at that spot will resent those guys that don't. Silver Strand may have some young punks who like to pretend they're in a gang but what community doesn't. I haven't been to Silver Strand in over a year but if there is a small criminal element there the "true locals" need to step in and deal with this otherwise the door is wide open for media and law enforcement interpretation.

talasmom writes:

in response to weluvgai#248337:

I've lived in VC all my life and Silver Strand has always had a reputation of being confrontational with non locals. My friends and I use to go surfing there and never really encountered any hostility. On the other hand I know people who have. There's always a "our turf" attitude at every good surf spot. Anyone who surf knows the perfect wave is rare so when the conditions are good and you have to compete for that wave with 20 other surfers the guys who go out everyday at that spot will resent those guys that don't. Silver Strand may have some young punks who like to pretend they're in a gang but what community doesn't. I haven't been to Silver Strand in over a year but if there is a small criminal element there the "true locals" need to step in and deal with this otherwise the door is wide open for media and law enforcement interpretation.

I agree with your post....back in my day and probably even now it was "Rat Beach" in the South Bay. "Some" local surfers were territorial and it was ugly. To paint all of them with the same brush and bring in white supremacy is just ridiculous. Just treat each crime as what it is....a criminal act against another person.

doright writes:

in response to PleasantValley:

It is a joke that the prosecution is trying to paint Silver Strand Locals as a gang. Their case is flimsy and they are being beaten soundly in the trial by a very inexperienced but savvy defense attorney.

Yeah, its not like they ride motorcycles, SSL Angels.

doright writes:

in response to conman22000#715653:

ssl isnt a gang! its a club!

just like hells angels

doright writes:

in response to SpartanFan:

I would say not a gang. I used to hangout with the surfers from Silver Stand and Oxnard Shores some many years ago. They used the label SSL and OSL but they weren't a gang. They were the locals. Not what you would think of when you think of gangs.

Times and people change. What started out as a club can easily become a gang with the change of people involved and the situations they face. Examples are all around...KKK, Hells Angels, Democratic Party, Republican Party.....

Absolem writes:

Yawn.... This passes for news? I am amazing they are allowing comments on such an inane story.

doright writes:

in response to EndlessSummer:

If guys from a "group of people" go around threatening or beating people up for surfing somewhere I would call that a gang. People aren't "invading their territory," they just happen to be where there are at that time. I've seen it all first hand and its pretty ridiculous.

Yep, gangs are rediculous, but damaging to neighborhoods and anyone they happen upon.

doright writes:

in response to madman805:

My grandparents wanted to retire at silverstrand beach area back in 1968 but a realitor told them "you dont want to live here this is a run down area" and told them about a new housing area at the Tierra Vista area.So they bought a house on Olds rd.Now where is the ghetto.

Huummm, I'm gonna have to say...Pennsylvania Ave., DC

fogball114 writes:

This newspaper is so biased against the McInerney prosecution that anyone who believes this crap should have their head examined. Swanson didn't testify that the entire residential population of Silver Strand are gang members, he testified that over the last several decades, SSL has had a membership somewhere between 12 and 18 people. Further, its pretty rich that Mr. Higgins mentioned the man that beat his wife, went to prison and came out a white supremacist because that man is Matt Reaume, the very same man who Swanson believes may have influence Brandon McInerney!!!

Oceaneagle writes:

Anybody who is inhospitable to visitors is a disgrace. That is the teaching for thousands of years of civilization, starting with the Old Testament. Besides, they are advertising that they themselves musth have never been anywhere.

talasmom writes:

The person who had the biggest influence in Brandon's young life seems to be his father. No one will ever condone what he did, but to throw out all the "evil influences" in his community just makes light of it. That kid didn't have a chance in he!!. The disturbed child he became rests solely with his family and whatever inner demons he had as a result of his family situation.

stevense writes:

A gang injunction seems the only hope for this troubled beach community. I am sure if they put a lot of police in that small area, they could catch a lot of criminals. Hopefully they can police it as heavily as they do La Colonia, where the Chiquez gang, and Chiquez sur hang out. No known SSL gang member or their families should be able to wear any surf, skateboard or punk rock clothes. They shouldn't be able to wear their surf gang colors in public. If the police see anybody in that barrio wearing a pink Roxy tee shirt for example, or any other surf gang clothing,they should be stopped, interrogated, and put on the gang roster. They should put under cover cops in the line up, and impose a strict curfew, for even the grandparents of the gang members. That's how they roll in Oxnard,right?

EZgeezer writes:

Amusingly, confusingly, diversions... distractions!
Smoke and mirrors.
Hello??

talasmom writes:

in response to EZgeezer:

Amusingly, confusingly, diversions... distractions!
Smoke and mirrors.
Hello??

I was also going to use the smoke and mirrors analogy:)

doright writes:

in response to Absolem:

Yawn.... This passes for news? I am amazing they are allowing comments on such an inane story.

The Star is insane and yes, you are amazing.

doright writes:

in response to EZgeezer:

Amusingly, confusingly, diversions... distractions!
Smoke and mirrors.
Hello??

More like smoke on the water...we are talking about SSL after all.

chumash1962 writes:

SSL is not a gang enough already people.

EZgeezer writes:

in response to doright:

More like smoke on the water...we are talking about SSL after all.

I guess you're probably right. Turns out I'm the one distracted and confused!
I was thinking about Brandon. Silly me! I sit corrected.

say doright, are you by chance a lawyer or politician?

doright writes:

in response to EZgeezer:

I guess you're probably right. Turns out I'm the one distracted and confused!
I was thinking about Brandon. Silly me! I sit corrected.

say doright, are you by chance a lawyer or politician?

No, sir. I have never had a lobotomy.

doright writes:

in response to chumash1962:

SSL is not a gang enough already people.

George Christie has repeatedly said Hell Angels is just a motorcycle club too.

PleasantValley writes:

The "hate crime" charge has now been painted as the joke that it is. The prosecution is now beginning to falter on their "1st Degree" murder charge. The prosecution is jeopardizing their 1st Degree charge by coming across as fools in the "Hate crime" allegation. The jury could easily give Brandon a manslaughter sentence. Prosecution must be getting nervous. SSL is not a gang, as many here have stated.

doright writes:

in response to PleasantValley:

The "hate crime" charge has now been painted as the joke that it is. The prosecution is now beginning to falter on their "1st Degree" murder charge. The prosecution is jeopardizing their 1st Degree charge by coming across as fools in the "Hate crime" allegation. The jury could easily give Brandon a manslaughter sentence. Prosecution must be getting nervous. SSL is not a gang, as many here have stated.

SSL is no more a gang than motorcycles are dangerous. Oh, wait, that isn't what you say. That's right, motorcycles are dangerous and SSL IS a gang......glad we cleared that up. Thanks again for the insight UPV.

doodlesnicker86 writes:

I'll make it quick because goodness knows the STAR doesn't want us talking about the trial.

talasmom: I hate to see you absolve Brandon of his actions. A moments thought would prove that children all over the world experience far greater abuse (and I'm not even sure I believe a word from his family) and they don't commit crimes, much less first degree murder.

PleasantValley, while the jury may be stupid or lazy or hateful enough to let this punk slide, there is NO question that it was first degree. That you keep insisting it wasn't shows how little you understand the law and points to exactly why juries (often filled with folks like you) should be abolished.

Since he was in no danger himself, it doesn't matter why Brandon did it. He did it. Nothing you can say or do will change that....even though you spread your lies all a bunch of other websites (LA Times for example).

talasmom writes:

in response to doodlesnicker86:

I'll make it quick because goodness knows the STAR doesn't want us talking about the trial.

talasmom: I hate to see you absolve Brandon of his actions. A moments thought would prove that children all over the world experience far greater abuse (and I'm not even sure I believe a word from his family) and they don't commit crimes, much less first degree murder.

PleasantValley, while the jury may be stupid or lazy or hateful enough to let this punk slide, there is NO question that it was first degree. That you keep insisting it wasn't shows how little you understand the law and points to exactly why juries (often filled with folks like you) should be abolished.

Since he was in no danger himself, it doesn't matter why Brandon did it. He did it. Nothing you can say or do will change that....even though you spread your lies all a bunch of other websites (LA Times for example).

I certainly don't absolve Brandon of his crime.....but certainly his life experience played a role. You're a teacher, you see it everyday. Sometimes the greater abuse that children around the world experience....famine...starvation etc., affect the mind a little differently. That's different from the the abuse that kills your soul....just sayin".

fogball114 writes:

Oh yeah, and I forgot to mention that this tool of a newspaper also forgot to mention that Mr. Higgins' son is Charles Higgins--another member of SSL and another avowed white supremacist. His conviction for criminal threats (PC 422) was one of the predicate acts used by Swanson to establish that SSL fits the definition of a criminal street gang. This community deserves better than to be intentionally misled by this poor excuse for a newspaper.

reggae028 writes:

Some of you are really ignorant, I don't surf and know alot of people there, most are cool, there's ALWAYS some fool around but a gang? LMAO you people are clueless.

Adam_Monroe writes:

"Some residents said the community is being unfairly tarnished because of a small number of people, and that locals who are not gang members have been stopped by authorities just because they have tattoos."

The behalf of all the good, responsible citizens of the city of Oxnard, I have to laugh at the irony of this statement...

Welcome to the club SSL...

doodlesnicker86 writes:

Fine and dandy, this is a low rent newspaper comment section, but let's be clear; the courtroom is not the place to consider Brandon's soul or lack thereof, neither is the classroom for that matter.

reggae028 writes:

in response to doright:

Times and people change. What started out as a club can easily become a gang with the change of people involved and the situations they face. Examples are all around...KKK, Hells Angels, Democratic Party, Republican Party.....

This is absurd they are not a gang, lol since when do white supremist let blacks in there gang, and as for Brandon Cruz? Give me a break, the guy used to play little Eddie on the courtship of Eddies father with Bill Bixby ...
His family is involved with music.

You clowns are stupid.

reggae028 writes:

in response to stevense:

A gang injunction seems the only hope for this troubled beach community. I am sure if they put a lot of police in that small area, they could catch a lot of criminals. Hopefully they can police it as heavily as they do La Colonia, where the Chiquez gang, and Chiquez sur hang out. No known SSL gang member or their families should be able to wear any surf, skateboard or punk rock clothes. They shouldn't be able to wear their surf gang colors in public. If the police see anybody in that barrio wearing a pink Roxy tee shirt for example, or any other surf gang clothing,they should be stopped, interrogated, and put on the gang roster. They should put under cover cops in the line up, and impose a strict curfew, for even the grandparents of the gang members. That's how they roll in Oxnard,right?

LOL no beach cruisers either...

doodlesnicker86 writes:

reggae028, no one is claiming that everyone who lives there is in a gang. I'm not entirely convinced that SSL is a gang in any real sense, but I'm not an expert. What I do know, from growing up in Oxnard, is that the surest way to ruin a good party was to have drunk surfers there. A fight was going to break out and the cops were going to show. However, that being said, drunk and not entirely intelligent boys will often fight....not sure if that qualifies as a gang, just makes them not quite as cool as they'd like you to believe.

Rat_Fink writes:

Dear Swanson,

For sake of it, stop calling innocent locals "gang member"! What will you do? Prosecute every GSA club, bible club, photography club, surfing club, hot rodding club, Boys & Girls club, and all other club members for being in a "gang"?

Surfers attacking people for getting in their spot don't mean they're in gang. It's just them being arrogant, immature, and stupid. It doesn't happen there; it happens EVERYWHERE. Are you going to prosecute a surfer who yelled at a visitor, "get off my beach!"?

Don't you think 25+ longtime Silver Strand locals—who opposed and gave you cold and hard facts that SSL is a community, not a gang—are more than enough to change your mind?

Looks like Fox is starting to agree with the Silver Strand locals that you're wrong and wasting everyone's time by giving no comment.

Goodness me.

reggae028 writes:

in response to doodlesnicker86:

reggae028, no one is claiming that everyone who lives there is in a gang. I'm not entirely convinced that SSL is a gang in any real sense, but I'm not an expert. What I do know, from growing up in Oxnard, is that the surest way to ruin a good party was to have drunk surfers there. A fight was going to break out and the cops were going to show. However, that being said, drunk and not entirely intelligent boys will often fight....not sure if that qualifies as a gang, just makes them not quite as cool as they'd like you to believe.

At a young age I saw more unruly drunks in college than I ever did there.

Common_Sense writes:

Hmmmmm.....Mr. Newcomb worked for Oxnard PD, yet Silver Strand is the responsibility of the Sheriff's Department. Wonder why Mr. Newcomb spent so much time over there if that wasn't his area. Seems that whatever the situation was in the 1990's when he retired may very well have changed. The current information and opinions of current law enforcement people (based on current information not information from 15 years ago) holds alot more water in my opinion. Mr. Schierman seems to be in a pretty good position to give an opinion and says they area a gang. Whether the group beats people up to protect their drug business or to hog a patch of sand....this behavior supported and encouraged by a group makes them a gang. Period.

NavalAviator writes:

I'm thinking that this gang SSL bs that the prosecution is putting forward, is grasping for staws. Also with testimony coming in on the disgusting abuse that the McInerney took from his dad and the vic's obvious acting out directed at McInerney, I think like the OJ prosecution, this prosecution just might have gone in the wrong direction.

The prosecution could lose this one. If I were sitting on the jury I would be wondering why the prosecution did not bring in McInerney abuse by his dad, and the pretty obvious state of his mind at the time of this tragic event. I think that the prosecution is screwing up this prosecution.

When McInerney would not take the prosecution's plea deal, they loaded him up with charges - as is always the case - and Ms. Fox is having a tough time stinging them all together with sufficient arguement to get convictions.

But what I really don;t understand why McInerney did not simply beat the c--- out of the vic everytime he came on to him. It would be pretty hard to blow kisses if McInerney had simply knocked the vic's grill out.

Daigoro writes:

Walks like a gang, talks like one, beats people up to protect (fill in the blank)... hmm smells like a gang to me. By the way, they also have a moniker and write graffiti.

Gangs are everywhere, in the city, in the mountains, on the plains, and YES at the beach... live with it.

Or maybe people would shut up if you put the word SURF before the word gang (which is an insult). Or better yet (since SSL isnt a gang), lets call them a "Neighborhood Surf Protection Task Force"!

doodlesnicker86 writes:

in response to NavalAviator:

I'm thinking that this gang SSL bs that the prosecution is putting forward, is grasping for staws. Also with testimony coming in on the disgusting abuse that the McInerney took from his dad and the vic's obvious acting out directed at McInerney, I think like the OJ prosecution, this prosecution just might have gone in the wrong direction.

The prosecution could lose this one. If I were sitting on the jury I would be wondering why the prosecution did not bring in McInerney abuse by his dad, and the pretty obvious state of his mind at the time of this tragic event. I think that the prosecution is screwing up this prosecution.

When McInerney would not take the prosecution's plea deal, they loaded him up with charges - as is always the case - and Ms. Fox is having a tough time stinging them all together with sufficient arguement to get convictions.

But what I really don;t understand why McInerney did not simply beat the c--- out of the vic everytime he came on to him. It would be pretty hard to blow kisses if McInerney had simply knocked the vic's grill out.

Why would the prosecution bring up Brandon's supposed abuse by his father? And do we know his state-of-mind at the time of the cold-blooded execution? I don't think so.

Brandon's life was not threatened but he planned and carried out a murder. Full stop.

PleasantValley writes:

in response to NavalAviator:

I'm thinking that this gang SSL bs that the prosecution is putting forward, is grasping for staws. Also with testimony coming in on the disgusting abuse that the McInerney took from his dad and the vic's obvious acting out directed at McInerney, I think like the OJ prosecution, this prosecution just might have gone in the wrong direction.

The prosecution could lose this one. If I were sitting on the jury I would be wondering why the prosecution did not bring in McInerney abuse by his dad, and the pretty obvious state of his mind at the time of this tragic event. I think that the prosecution is screwing up this prosecution.

When McInerney would not take the prosecution's plea deal, they loaded him up with charges - as is always the case - and Ms. Fox is having a tough time stinging them all together with sufficient arguement to get convictions.

But what I really don;t understand why McInerney did not simply beat the c--- out of the vic everytime he came on to him. It would be pretty hard to blow kisses if McInerney had simply knocked the vic's grill out.

All good points. The prosecution is indeed grasping at straws. The jury knows it. SSL is not a gang and trying so hard to prove it and coming across so unprofessional is going to hurt the rest of the prosecutions case.

conman22000#715653 writes:

SSL CHIQUES .......... it has a ring to it, sounds like a real tough group!

reggae028 writes:

Again calling silver strand residents gang affiliated is hilarious, just cause a few young punks with surfboards or skateboards start trouble..my god! Run for life. LMAO at some of you.

bray19802003#362233 writes:

Silver Strand was a gang the only difference is they were white so nobody gave a dam. Besides they never came out of the strand to play with the black or hispanic gangs, so basically they were just undercover bitc....es

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