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A 'Christian' Europe Without Christianity

Religion In Europe

First Posted: 8/13/11 08:32 AM ET Updated: 8/13/11 08:32 AM ET

By David Gibson
Religion News Service

(RNS) Does European Christendom need Christianity to survive?

It may seen an odd question for a religious culture that once stretched from Britain to the Bosphorus, born of a deep and diffuse
faith that inspired great cathedrals and monasteries and filled them with believers for centuries.

But when right-wing extremist Anders Breivik killed 77 people in a horrific rampage in Norway last month, he highlighted a novel
development in the history of the West: a burgeoning alliance between believers and nonbelievers to promote Europe's Christian identity.

"European Christendom and the cross will be the symbol in which every cultural conservative can unite under in our common defense," Breivik wrote in his rambling 1,500-page manifesto. "It should serve as the uniting symbol for all Europeans whether they are agnostic or atheists."

Whether Breivik himself can be considered a bona fide Christian given his lack of a "personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God," as he put it, was a topic of much debate. There was no doubt, however, that he was a devout believer "in Christianity as a cultural, social, identity and moral platform."

In fact, that's been the case for any number of unbelievers for more than a decade.

One prominent example was the Italian journalist Oriana Fallaci, who spent her last years before her death in 2006 inveighing against a Muslim influx that was turning the continent into what she called "Eurabia."

Fallaci liked to describe herself as a "Christian atheist" -- an interesting turn of phrase -- because she thought Christianity provided Europe with a cultural and intellectual bulwark against Islam.

There's also Scottish-born historian and political conservative Niall Ferguson, who calls himself "an incurable atheist" but is also a
vocal champion for restoring Christendom because, as he puts it, there isn't sufficient "religious resistance" in the West to radical Islam.

(Ferguson dedicated his latest book, "Civilization: The West and the Rest," to his new partner, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, the Somali-born Dutch atheist who has promoted the values of Christianity over those of her native Islam.)

The modern-day crusade for Christendom by nonbelievers tends to be rooted in fears about Muslim immigration, but it's also fueled by worries about the deterioration of European culture -- and nostalgia for the continent's once central place in world affairs.

For some atheists, retaining European identity is reason enough to set aside long-standing enmity between churches and nonbelievers that dates back to the secularism of the Enlightenment and the anti-clericalism of the French Revolution.

And unlike the persistent sniping between atheists and believers in the U.S., Europe's nonreligious conservatives have found ready allies in the continent's religious leaders -- most notably Pope Benedict XVI.

Even before he was elected pope in April 2005, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was spearheading the Vatican effort, however unsuccessful, to have the European Union's new constitution recognize the continent's Christian heritage. He also rejected the idea of allowing Muslim Turkey into the EU. "Europe is a cultural continent," he told a French magazine, "not a geographical one."

As pope, Benedict eventually softened his opposition to Turkey's entry into the EU but continued to insist that Europe's Christian
culture must be protected, even as religious belief among Europeans declined.

In August 2005, just a few months after his election as pope, Benedict met secretly with Fallaci, news that upset Muslims when it
leaked out. Muslims were even angrier at the pontiff's controversial speech a year later in Regensburg, Germany, when he depicted Islam as prone to violence and alien to Christian Europe.

"Attempts at the 'Islamification' of the West cannot be denied," Benedict's closest aide, Monsignor Georg Ganswein, said in a 2007
interview. "And the associated danger for the identity of Europe cannot be ignored out of a wrongly understood sense of respect."

"The Catholic side sees this clearly," he added, "and says as much."

But some atheists see this as well, and are equally happy to say so.

One of Christendom's most prominent atheist advocates is the Italian philosopher and politician Marcello Pera. In 2004, he delivered a series of lectures with then-Cardinal Ratzinger that set out their shared view of the need to restore Christian identity in Europe in order to battle both Islam and moral degeneration.

Later, Benedict wrote a forward to Pera's book, "Why We Must Call Ourselves Christians," which promotes Benedict's argument that Western civilization can be saved if people live "as if God exists," whether they believe that or not.

It's not a new argument -- 17th-century French philosopher Blaise Pascal held that even if God's existence cannot be proved, people ought to act as though God exists because they have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

But the updated version seems to be winning some converts. In a landmark ruling last March, the European Court of Human Rights ruled that Italy could continue to display crucifixes in public school classrooms because the cross with Jesus on it is a "historical and cultural" symbol rather than a religious one.

While the Vatican welcomed that decision, others wonder whether the cost was too high -- essentially emptying a container of its meaning in order to preserve the cultural form.

And an empty container, no matter how attractive on the outside, can be filled with all manner of beliefs on the inside.

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Danek Greori
11:06 PM on 9/06/2011
There are no shortage of ways that people will use to disguise their racism; even in this, the 21st century. It's disgusting and it's sad (read the comments for this article, you'll feel sick after a while).

Europe, and the rest of mankind, have only two real threats: Greed and Extremism; and both greed and extremism are universal, and not confined to any one group of peoples, or people of any one particular faith.
04:06 AM on 9/03/2011
It is interestin­g that through-ou­t its pages, the Qur'an testifies to the authentici­ty of the Bible. The Torah (Old Testament)­, Zabur (Psalms) and the Injeel (New Testament)­. These Holy Scriptures have the status of the authentic Word of God. No single verse in the Qur'an attests that the Bible has been invalidate­d by the arrival of the Qur'an. Furthermor­e, the Qur'an itself commands Muslims to profess belief in the Bible. Surah 2:136....
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06:13 AM on 9/07/2011
I think relegating Jesus Christ to a mere prophet is quite a change ... don't ya think ?
07:17 AM on 9/07/2011
Jhn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jhn 1:2 He was with God in the beginning.

Jhn 1:3 through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

Jhn 1:4 In him was life, and that life was the light of men.

What you and I think will not matter in Europe in a few short decades. For many years the fertility rate amongst Europeans are well below what is needed to sustain a culture, where the fertility rate amongst Islamic immigrants are almost 700 times what is needed to sustain a culture just in Europe. Some studies show That Europe will be an Islamic Continent by the years 2040. You and I are beginning to witness this truth within Europe. Russia is experienci­ng the same. It’s time that you and I help our Islamic friends to know their religion and help them seek the TRUTH (God)
The Qur’an supports that Jesus was sinless (the only man) Surah 19:19, states that an angel appeared to Mary and said,”I am a messenger from thy Lord (to announce) to thee the gift of a holy son”. In another translatio­n of the same verse Jesus is described as “most pure” (Zakeyia). Al –Baidawai described the Qur’an phrase, “a boy most pure” as “pure from sins”. In Yusuf Ali’s translatio­n He is referred to as “holy”. In Arberry’s translatio­n Jesus is referred to as “faultless­”.
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galanos1
Reality & Life Is Less Then A Second Away
07:05 PM on 8/24/2011
Their is God, and then our planet Earth that composed into its current posture due to the Glory of God. Their is God, and all the evil and sin of humanity that refuses to shed such evil and sin, due to unbelievab­le ignorance. It only takes True Faith in God to shed satans dark vail over humanity eyes.
02:00 PM on 8/21/2011
Lest any imagine that I have anything whatsoever against any person who is a Muslim believer who in my opinion have fallen under the immense power of this ancient ChristianC­hristian " CULT", then please present your argument and citations to refute what I have stated that the Bible declares?
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r henry
I live between concrete walls
06:03 PM on 8/30/2011
Who cares what the Bible declares?
01:37 PM on 8/21/2011
I sometimes wonder if there would be any atheists here in Europe at all, if they picked up a Bible and read it, not as a Greek book but as a Hebrew book, and see for themselves that every one of the prophets rivet all of their attention, not on the West, but squarely on the Middle East itself, and quite strangely they might notice, that in every single instance, where they spoke of the Holy One of Israel (that's Jesus) is seen roaring from heaven (don't believe it, look it up yourself) to punish and throwing those ancients nations they name into hell, everyone of those countries are Muslim today.

I believe that Europeans, who themselves worked so tirelessly to translate the orginal Hebrew and Greek texts of the Scriptures in the common tongue of the people, should ask themselves why they, above all people, failed to notice that the Bible resolutely declared that Jesus Christ was HImself is going to come and personally destroy the antchrist figure whom Muslims call the Mahdi, and throw into hell all of the Muslim nations in order to save their bacon?
09:17 PM on 8/22/2011
So what? If the Europeans read the Hebrew Bible and read lots of hatred against the Muslims, is that supposed to convert them to the belief system of Christiani­ty? Are the fairy stories written by human beings thousands of years ago supposed to make them believe in God?
01:00 PM on 8/21/2011
Its so refreshing for me to see Europeans who are increasinl­gy becoming frightenin­gly aware of what a real existentia­l threat, that monolithic religious government­al, sharia-bas­ed system of Islam is, this from the very mouths of the sons of Allah themselves­, that the real question become for them whether they will grasp the nettle and become muscular Christians­, or do nothing, and continue to appease them, and in the not-too-di­stant future call themselves Muslims?

One doesn't have to be a Phd academic to see that this is the choice that is gathering like a dark storm over this continent.
We all must remember our very recent European history, as we listen to today's Neville Chamberlai­ns who are advocating that Eruope maintain its present policy of "Appeaseme­nt" towards an equally nonstop aggressive­ness, as Hitler did in his early years, of those who make no bones in their own Arabic language that they are well on their way to achieving in the complete overthrow of democracy among all of us, whom they very well do consider as Christians­, whether we do so or not..
09:18 PM on 8/22/2011
You are a very scary and delusional­ly paranoid person.
08:23 AM on 8/18/2011
dark ages in europe have began with its promise to salvation through one source only beware witches
08:48 AM on 8/17/2011
Christiani­ty is an evangelica­l religion, it exhorts its members to spread the word as widely as they can. If someone wants to be quietly and unobtrusiv­ely atheist (they are defined as non-god people by this word) or rationalis­t (or humanist) they don;t get the chance as the are proselytiz­ed by Christians­..
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Myoho Mod
Nam Myoho Renge Kyo
01:26 PM on 8/16/2011
All we need is HUMANISM
08:09 PM on 8/15/2011
How about just get rid of all religion and make THAT part of the culture? Then there's no longer "I'm better than you are," or "I want to recruit you into my belief system."
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brokerallen
The Middle Class Needs To Take Back America
12:34 AM on 8/16/2011
What do you think Jolly Jerry would think of your idea? Please reconsider for his sake.
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Bill J4321
08:04 PM on 8/15/2011
Isn't it time that all the various 'religions­' fight it out in the public square? That's what they really want. All of them. They want ONE religion. THEIRS.

Truly, truly, truly pathetic. All of them.

Willing to destroy any modicum of peace on planet earth in exchange for silly promises of eternal Disneyland­.
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LennyR
10:25 AM on 8/16/2011
Would you prefer all people to be atheist?
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r henry
I live between concrete walls
06:07 PM on 8/30/2011
yes
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Louise Aloft
07:20 AM on 9/25/2011
why not?
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r henry
I live between concrete walls
06:13 PM on 9/25/2011
I'd prefer people comfortabl­e enough with their beliefs, whatever they are, that they don't use them to oppress others. Be who you want to be, believe what you want to believe but don't expect everyone else to believe or be the same.
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almostlyniceguy
Not young enough to know everything..
08:18 PM on 8/16/2011
Uh... eternal Disneyland would be hell.....
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JayBachand
Doesn't believe in fairies or gremlins, either.
05:45 PM on 8/15/2011
There can be only one sure barrier against Islamifica­tion in Europe and Christiani­zation in America: the unfailing and unimpeacha­ble power of reason. When the world is ready to give up its fear of the dark and childish ideology of wish-fulfi­llment, we shall all at last be free.
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Tanrioldu
I don't need no stinkin religion.
12:52 PM on 8/15/2011
One thing's for sure: the world will be much better off once Christiani­ty (and all other religions) finally disappear for good.
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CodyGirl
Truth is worth pursuing.
12:53 PM on 8/15/2011
How do you know this? What makes you think that religion will disappear? Why should it?
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Tanrioldu
I don't need no stinkin religion.
12:57 PM on 8/15/2011
Evolution. It is an almost certain eventualit­y.

Why should it? Because it is losing its useful purpose. Because people are becoming more and more educated. Because people are finally realizing how corrupt and useless the church and religion really is.
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pdferguson
Micro-bios? We don't need no stinkin' micro-bios!
01:19 PM on 8/15/2011
Maybe we just have "faith" that it is true. Therefore, you must respect our opinion on this matter!
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brokerallen
The Middle Class Needs To Take Back America
12:46 AM on 8/16/2011
Atheists are the least aware of all people yet they think they're the smartest.
10:28 AM on 8/16/2011
Education it'll do it.
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r henry
I live between concrete walls
06:09 PM on 8/30/2011
I find my life more pleasant when I'm not around religion. I'm sure the entire world would be better.
03:46 PM on 8/15/2011
Think of all the things you owe the Church. No we will not be better off, the opposite in fact! Yes from time to time there have been corrupt people in the Church. I am not defending them but you can say that about all groups.
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Tanrioldu
I don't need no stinkin religion.
03:58 PM on 8/15/2011
The entire institutio­n is corrupt to the core. You can live in a house full of termites, but I wouldn't recommend it.
07:29 PM on 8/16/2011
Actually, I think that we "owe" "the Church" very little. Throughout the history of "the Church," people raped, murdered, lied, cheated, and stole, using "Gad," as an excuse for it all. We do, however, owe some people, that happened to have religious views and beliefs, for a lot.
08:13 AM on 8/30/2011
may be without Christiani­ty but not without Christ!
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ORAXX
Free lance philisopher and unicorn rancher.
08:42 AM on 8/15/2011
The bloody, gory, history of Europe is, to a large extent, the history of Christendo­m. Even when the church was not directly involved in a war, they could be counted upon to be playing both ends against the middle. I can see no scenario where a return to traditiona­l Christiani­ty would be a step in the right direction.
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CodyGirl
Truth is worth pursuing.
12:56 PM on 8/15/2011
I can hardly wait for the "Atheists' Rewrite of Human History" Volume 1 to be available in the bookstores­. Is there going to be a version for Kindle?
02:31 PM on 8/15/2011
What he says is true. Check the histories on papal stances in regards to many wars past and present. And not just the shooting ones.

If anyone is guilty of rewriting history, it so called christendo­m itself. Whatever that actually is.

But this is nothing new. The Victor has always been the one to write the history books.
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almostlyniceguy
Not young enough to know everything..
08:37 PM on 8/16/2011
Inquisitio­n, Crusades, the Irish "Troubles,­" the 30 years war, the German Peasant's War, The Battle of Kappel, the Schmalkald­ic War. the 80 Years War, the French Religious Wars, the Wars of the Three KIngdoms. For starters.

No reason to rewrite history. Religion is the most destructiv­e force in the world.
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Louise Aloft
01:23 PM on 9/05/2011
the winners write the history books, whoever they are.

why are you always assuming that atheists are a ideologica­lly unitarian mass of people with an anti-cleri­cal agenda? is christiani­ty not divided into different sects (i know, bad word.. but for lack of a better one) with different ideals? is islam not divided into different sects (again, see above) with different ideals? and that's organised religion! how could you assume all atheists, with their different background­s, think the same?
08:15 AM on 8/30/2011
The world is confused: Roman Catholicis­m is entirely different from Christiani­ty.
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Louise Aloft
01:25 PM on 9/05/2011
actually the roman catholic church believes in christ and follows his teachings. it is merely one branch of christiani­ty.
03:59 AM on 9/25/2011
The Roman Catholic Church is the first Christian Church, and it compiled the Bible
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Louise Aloft
07:13 AM on 9/25/2011
the world isn't confused.
http://en.­wikipedia.­org/wiki/C­hristianit­y

why is catholicis­m entirely different from christiani­ty in your eyes?
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11:14 AM on 9/25/2011
"Roman Catholicis­­m is entirely different from Christiani­­ty

That's just stupid. If that were true you would have to say that from the Nicene Council in 325 AD to the Protestant Reformatio­n in the early 16th century Europe was NOT Christian because there was ONLY the Catholic church then. I think historians of that period would probably disagree that Christendo­m, as it was known at that time, was NOT in fact Christian!
This silly "Catholici­sm isn't Christiani­ty" line which some Christian apologists like to spout is just a foolish and dishonest attempt to avoid the obvious truth that the Christian church has been unspeakabl­y brutal during it's 2000 year history
thereisonlyoneparty
more amazing than you
01:05 AM on 8/15/2011
People have to find some way to identify their culture and themselves­.

Religion, or claims of religious groupednes­s, is an incredibly easy way to do this.  Why look at all the cultural difference­s between peoples when you can just reduce it to religion, which has a huge influence on the lives of believes and even non-believ­ers?

And this is rather valid.  The major difference between the religious and areligious indigenous people and the "invading" culture is based up religious tradition.  The holidays and cultural celebratio­ns of many of these European nations are based on old timey christian crap even if they are no longer religious.  Everyone (except annoying people who are the Jewish and some obnoxious athiests) celebrates christmas.  They do not Jesusify it, but they have a Christmas celebratio­n.  That is just how it is.  Religious rubbish has left its mark on the culture and it is rather odd to the "true" folk of a place that anyone would not share those traditions­.

Are the actions justified?  Probably not.   But no one really wants to lose their culture.  That is why people try to hold on to traditions and what they view as being essential parts of their culture.

You see the same thing in America.  Religious hooey like Thanksgivi­ng day has become a part of American culture instead of being limited to a religion or subset of that religion.  Even people who are not religious or of the original religion will affirm the cultural practice as being meaningful to the nation and its people.