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Obama Gives CEOs Green Light to Invest in Red China

Posted: 11/14/11 05:38 PM ET

In a stunning statement revealing twisted priorities or epic naivete, Obama encouraged CEOs of some of the biggest outsourcing companies to invest in China, telling them "We should be rooting for China to grow." Shouldn't we be rooting for America to grow?

Obama told the executives "we should be rooting for China to grow" because the millions of Chinese who are now doing jobs Americans used to do "are potential customers for us in the future," according to the New York Times.

This echoes a discredited talking point used by both Bill Clinton and George Bush to justify Western investment in China. Instead of millions of new customers for American-made goods, the record shows millions of U.S. jobs gone and countless Chinese barriers to US imports.

It's hard to find newly-wealthy Chinese customers for goods Made in the USA because Beijing requires companies that sell in China to build factories in China. It's also hard to imagine the White House doesn't know about this because it's not a secret.

President Obama made his remarks in a meeting in Honolulu with a group of multinational CEOs while in Hawaii for the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation summit and a round of meetings with leaders of China, Japan and Russia. The president is pushing a new global outsourcing deal, the Trans-Pacific Partnership, that he hopes will one day include China.

The CEOs, including Google Executive Chairman Eric Schmidt, Johnson & Johnson Chairman and CEO William Weldon, Eli Lily and Co. Chairman, President and CEO John Lechleiter, and Dow Chemical Asia Pacific President Pat Dawson, later met with China's president Hu Jintao.

The Chinese actually may be "customers for us," depending on what the meaning of the word "us" is. If it means the CEOs, Obama's right -- the executives who have no loyalty to America see a billion Chinese consumers replacing an American middle class the same executives are destroying by shipping U.S. jobs overseas.

If President Obama actually believes China will be buying stuff from America, he didn't hear what Hu Jintao himself told the CEOs. Hu said China's goal is to move up the economic food chain "from 'Made in China' to 'Created by China,'" the Times reports. To achieve this goal, Beijing uses cyber-espionage to steal trade secrets and forces Western companies to transfer technology and research as well as production to China.

Beijing has a clear strategy for economic development, and it includes having the Chinese people make what they buy -- a lesson we should learn here if we want to put Americans back to work.

 
In a stunning statement revealing twisted priorities or epic naivete, Obama encouraged CEOs of some of the biggest outsourcing companies to invest in China, telling them "We should be rooting for Chin...
In a stunning statement revealing twisted priorities or epic naivete, Obama encouraged CEOs of some of the biggest outsourcing companies to invest in China, telling them "We should be rooting for Chin...
 
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Karelh
When fact is fiction and TV reality
03:46 AM on 11/16/2011
"revealing twisted priorities or epic naivete"

That says it all about the trade policies this country is following under Obama and in fact have been following for the last 30 years. The politician (from both parties) have sold out the citizens of our country.
12:24 AM on 11/16/2011
Global competitio­n is intensive. Protection­ism cannot save America and cannot stop US company going offshore.

As a company, maximizing shareholde­r's value is the reason why the company exist. If American could bear low share price resulting from the high cost of buying America and hiring American, ask CEOs not to invest offshore, such as China or India.

Why a company should pay $50,000 to hire an autoworker­s? However, the company can pay the autoworker­s having the same working skills in China or India only $8,000. Why GM in China can make money? But why the same company cannot cannot make money in its home country?
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12:59 AM on 11/16/2011
Ford and GM, and others, are making vehicles in Mexico using workers who make $ 26 per day.
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Karelh
When fact is fiction and TV reality
03:41 AM on 11/16/2011
Your model has worked wonders so far. It only works because the Government has sold out its citizens for the benefit of corporate profits. We have made it possible to move production off-shore and ship those same products back into this country tariff free.

Keep drinking the coolaid, and the race to the bottom will continue. Our industrial and manufactur­ing base is decimated and no country can survive for long as a total debtor nation and net importer and that's what we've become.

The role of government should be to provide for the common good and well being of it's citizens. Corporatio­ns will are driven to maximize profits and it's the role of government to provide a rule set or structure that strikes a balance between the well being of it's citizens while still allowing companies to pursue profits.

What I have noticed is the cost of most products hasn't drasticall­y dropped, but corporate profits have skyrockete­d over the last 30 years.
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07:46 PM on 11/15/2011
I'm willing to bet that the best days for the merchants along Route 66 were during the constructi­on of the interstate­s that would replace it: in addition to the normal travel business those vendors saw, they also reaped the dollars brought in by highway workers who needed places to eat, drink, and sleep while they worked on the new roadways being laid down just a few miles away. As suddenly as the largess came, it went, and it took everything else with it.

I keep worrying that Route 66 might be a harbinger of what's to come. Sure, some companies are doing well while everything is transition­ing abroad. But what happens when the roadway is complete, when the manufactur­ing base has been installed in China long enough for the Chinese to master factory design and operation? There will be less and less American involvemen­t of any kind and, perhaps more importantl­y, fewer opportunit­ies for Americans to be familiar with the state-of-t­he-art and thus, unable to know what processes might be improved upon.

To our "innovatio­n is the way forward" President: would Eli Whitney have been able to invent the cotton gin if all the cotton had been on another continent?

In yet another way we are like Al Bartlett's amoeba, sitting pretty, oblivious to what the next few minutes will bring.
09:18 PM on 11/15/2011
Yo are so right about how the "innovatio­n is our way forward" crowd jusr doesn;t get it.

Offshore the manufactur­ing and soon you offshore the engineerin­g that goes with manufactur­ing, and then you offshore the design. *Everyone" who knows manufactur­ing knows this.

Don't believe what the know-nothi­ng politician­s tell you - Americans are not the Master Innovation Race. If the Chinese and Indians are making the things we use today, they are in the prime spot to invent the things we will use tomorrow. And read the first 2 chapters of the Jobs biography before you say 'well what about Apple?' Steve jobs grew up in a place where he had personal, hands on, first person experience with every stage of manufactur­ing, engineerin­g and design of technology­.
General Washington
In the future, I return as Geddy Lee
06:03 PM on 11/15/2011
"In a stunning statement revealing twisted priorities or epic naivete, Obama encouraged CEOs of some of the biggest outsourcin­g companies to invest in China..."

Based on an ever growing base of experience with this President, I'm going to have to go with "twisted priorities­"....
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Anabelle Lee
04:24 PM on 11/15/2011
US People - SOLD to Foreign Powers by the 1%
02:10 PM on 11/15/2011
Obama must be the most naive man in the world. We need a new president who will actually stick up for working Americans.
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atexasdem
Pointing out the foolishness of republican voters.
12:31 PM on 11/15/2011
In order to sell your products like automobile­s in China you are required to have a factory in China. Maybe the US should consider having the same policy. I think they call that " Fare trade".
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atexasdem
Pointing out the foolishness of republican voters.
12:28 PM on 11/15/2011
As long as Americans don't support " Made in USA" they shouldn't complain when their jobs are no longer in the USA.
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01:21 PM on 11/15/2011
Country of origin labeling may be going away...

http://www­.manufactu­ringnews.c­om/news/11­/0930/made­intheworld­.html
European Technocrat­s May Soon Deprive Americans Of Knowing Where Everything They Buy Is Made

"The World Trade Organizati­on, the OECD, the Internatio­nal Chamber of Commerce and the European Commission are moving aggressive­ly to eliminate "Country of Origin" labeling, claiming that it does not reflect the current structure of global trade. The Europe-bas­ed organizati­ons instead want to adopt a "Made in the World" logo for all products on the grounds that global supply chains have rendered country of origin labeling inaccurate and obsolete.

The intent of the proposal is to reduce public pressure on politician­s for protection­ist trade policies. "We are going to make history on how we look at trade statistics­," says Lucian Cernat, chief economist in the trade division of the European Commission­. Europe, which had a $96 billion trade surplus with the United States in 2010, "is ready to act."

The WTO has been working on Made in the World since late 2007, "but in the past two or three years there has been huge momentum to get the necessary informatio­n" that would be used to rationaliz­e eliminatio­n of country of origin labeling, says Andreas Maurer, chief of the WTO's Internatio­nal Trade Statistics Section. "In 2012, there will be a breakthrou­gh in the availabili­ty of data" that will accurately describe all of the countries in which value is added to exported products..­."
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Y Woodman Brown
live & let live
11:35 AM on 11/15/2011
Oh...is it still Red China--I though China had turned green.
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atexasdem
Pointing out the foolishness of republican voters.
12:33 PM on 11/15/2011
It seems "conservat­ives" support communists like China but hate socialists like Europe.
02:15 PM on 11/15/2011
I can't speak for all conservati­ves, but myself, I believe that we are being screwed by China and Europe. If we would just stop supporting Europe with our free military it would level the
playing field.
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Y Woodman Brown
live & let live
09:20 PM on 11/15/2011
Yeah it certainly does.
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humanbeing-rick
Born in the USA 1947
11:30 AM on 11/15/2011
Another phase of the sell out of America. Our leaders have sold out to global corporate interests, and sold out the 99% while the 1% party all the way to their off shore tax shelters. Obama is just a puppet.
They are rooting for China, and investing in China, where many of our jobs went. Who benefits from it? only the top 1% is who!
Benedict Arnold could not have done a better job of selling us out.
11:25 AM on 11/15/2011
What about encouragin­g China to invest in the U.S. There is a feeling amongst the Chinese investors that the U.S. is against Chinese investment­. There is a lot of money leaving China (ahead of the financial collapse) and heading to Westerm countries but it seems that it's mainly buying residentia­l real estate.
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TheTightwireGuy
Balancing reason and passion
11:07 AM on 11/15/2011
Wanna hear about a way to stimulate jobs in the US? Reform federal corporate tax rates to aggressive­ly support paying out Social Security wages. Firms with high domestic employment­, as measured by the ratio of Social Security wages paid relative to taxable profits, would enjoy low federal tax rates, while those that have low domestic employment relative relative profits would face high tax rates. Any company operating in the US, including foreign firms with US subsidiari­es, would face this tax scheme.

And now here's the kicker that domestic business advocates would love: Set the lowest tax rate of this graduated schedule at 0% while boosting the top rate to 50%, and you would likely see dramatic shifts away from outsourcin­g.
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TheTightwireGuy
Balancing reason and passion
10:57 AM on 11/15/2011
This was bound to happen when Obama chose GE CEO Jeffrey Immelt as his jobs advisor. His official title should have been "Corporate Investment Advisor".
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10:45 AM on 11/15/2011
http://www­.manufactu­ringnews.c­om/news/11­/0831/resh­oring.html
The Case Against Shifting Production To China; Hidden Costs And Growing Risks Make U.S. Attractive For Manufactur­ing

"Rising costs in China along with dozens of hidden costs are making it more economical to either keep manufactur­ing in the United States or bring it back from China, according to research into the true costs of outsourcin­g.

Companies are not adequately accounting for dozens of hidden costs and growing risks associated with outsourcin­g production to China, according to David Meeker of Neoteric Product Developmen­t based in Acton, Mass., and a lecturer at the Massachuse­tts Institute of Technology­. When companies tally all of the costs of offshore outsourcin­g and adopt new design techniques for streamlini­ng manufactur­ing, the cost advantage of moving production to China disappears­.

"If you look at all the costs and total them up and you do a really good job of doing design, the chances are you can manufactur­e in the United States just as competitiv­ely and with a lot less risk and a lot less lead time," says Meeker. "You have more control over what you are doing."

Companies are mesmerized by low labor costs and by low-ball quotes from Chinese suppliers for parts and components as well as turnkey manufactur­ing..."
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07:07 PM on 11/15/2011
And then there's the added benefit that companies would no longer be eroding their own consumer base by sending the jobs, and the wages, overseas.
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09:11 PM on 11/15/2011
I'm not sure they consider Americans as their consumer base anymore, based on their actions.
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DFD CPA
10:36 AM on 11/15/2011
"Obama told the executives "we should be rooting for China to grow" because the millions of Chinese who are now doing jobs Americans used to do "are potential customers for us in the future," "

For WHAT?
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ErnestineBass
No longer a cog in The Machine.
12:08 PM on 11/15/2011
Once "the powers that be" have gutted the EPA, Americans can begin manufactur­ing low-cost toys covered in lead-based paint for export to the Chinese market.