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This thread is about Reddit actively trading irrefutable child porn. Do not come in here to defend r/jailbait. This isn't about the legal grey area subreddits. Reddit is blatantly posting child pornography. ------------------------------------------------------------  News Mentions: http://gawker.com/5884619/reddit-re...bans-child-porn http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/0...ornography.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57...es-of-children/ http://www.observer.com/2012/02/red...ans-child-porn/ ------------------------------------------------------------ It's only been 3 months since Something Awful (and Anderson Cooper) took on reddit and their r/jailbait section. Since then they have expanded into dozens of child pornography subreddits, exchanging illegal material out in the open. This time, a single news anchor probably isn't enough, so the reddit thread in Debate & Discussion has created The Redditbomb: ------------------------- reddit [http://www.reddit.com/] is a social website that allows its users to share links to content on the internet and post comments about the links. This enables not only the sharing of content (photographs, videos, websites, and so on) but also the discussion of said content. reddit is massively popular http://blog.reddit.com/2012/01/2-billion-beyond.html, especially with young people http://en.reddit.com/r/misc/comment..._survey_in_pie/. reddit is split into subcommunities known as "subreddits", meaning that while reddit exists as a website, it consists as the sum of its subcommunities that people can subscribe to and participate in by means of sharing and commenting as aforementioned. Unfortunately, the reddit community as a whole also harbors pedophiles and distributors of child pornography, including a man who goes by the name Tessorro http://www.reddit.com/user/tessorro and runs a subreddit called "preteen_girls"http://www.reddit.com/r/preteen_gir...ase_can/c3pxuv8 The main purveyor of child porn on reddit is Violentacrez, who was the former leader of the "jailbait" subreddit, before Anderson Cooper's report http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuMd...feature=related got it shut down: http://www.reddit.com/user/violentacrez A list of Jailbait (underage porn) forums which have sprung up to replace it that are currently on reddit: preteen_girls jailbaitarchives truejailbait gaolbait GirlsinSchoolUniforms LegalTeens niggerjailbait Thenewjailbait RealGirls trapbait /r/jailbait is shut down now, but the traffic statistics http://i.imgur.com/jvNpg.png posted by Violentacrez http://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfRed..._for_rjailbait/ from its heydays are interesting. The dip in mid August is when admins temporarily closed the subreddit, and the spike on September 30th is when Anderson Cooper talked about it. The numbers after the temporary shut down are abnormally low, as would be expected. But prior to that, they were getting about 30,000 unique visitors each day. When r/jailbait was open, it had a message on the sidebar asking young girls to submit pics to their jailbait gone wild subreddit, which still exists, and even wants these 'jailbait' girls to get verified before submitting photos. You're also told to "Be respectful. Don't insult the ones brave enough to submit photos / videos". The owners of reddit know there is active trading of child porn on their forums, and refuse to do anything about it. Further, Reddit's cofounder simply dismisses the issue and blames the exploited children whose pictures are being traded: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXZYvrue1BE The inaction of reddit's administrators has been a frequent topic, part of that being Violentacrez's shockingly close relationship with them. Violentacrez's Twitter account https://twitter.com/#!/violentacrez seems like a good example of this. Krispykrackers http://twitter.com/#!/krispykrackers (head of advertising and the community helpline at reddit) Hueypriest https://twitter.com/#!/hueypriest (reddit's general manager) and Chromakode https://twitter.com/#!/chromakode (developer) all follow violentacrez. So does Jedberg https://twitter.com/#!/jedberg (former administrator), KeyserSosa https://twitter.com/#!/KeyserSosa (former lead developer) and MikeSchiraldi https://twitter.com/#!/MikeSchiraldiraldi (another former developer type). If you view their past tweets, you'll see that Violentacrez has regularly been in direct, public contact with them. In 2008, r/jailbait received the most votes in reddit's "Best Community" contest http://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comm...comment_here_w/, with SuicideWatch taking a distant second, receiving about half as many votes. Another interesting fact is that Violentacrez has the third highest amount of karma http://www.karmawhores.net/violentacrez on all of reddit for submitted links. Reddit can't get enough of the guy. Are you sick to your stomach yet? The list of child pornography subreddits continues: (all subreddits listed below are not safe for viewing) "Preteen Girls" "Male Jailbait" "Jailbait Junkies" "Asian Jailbait" "Young Porn" Other awful Reddit things: A Pedophile's Confession A subreddit called "Raping Women" "Beating Women" A subreddit called "Lolicon" (cartoon drawings of naked children)[/url] A subreddit called "Pics of Dead Kids" --------------------------------------------------- What do we do with this? The biggest, most important thing I can think of that you can do with the "Redditbomb": Reddit is hugely popular with people under 18, right? And Anderson Cooper may not revisit the story, the FBI may do nothing, gloom and doom, right? Act Local. If you're in America, I bet there's 20 churches near your home. Each church could have around 100 CONCERNED PARENTS that go to PTA meetings and talk to other parents. Send the "Redditbomb" to local politicians and churches. Let them see that their children are using a website that exploits and sexualizes children. You can send tips to the FBI all day (god knows I do), but I think a grassroots campaign could do wonders. I think the smaller we start, the bigger it gets. Barely anyone remembers the Anderson Cooper story. But if a bunch of smalltown moms went on a crusade against a website that wants their precious angel to strip for their gross pleasure? Do you know how BORING local news is? Can you imagine if your local news could run a "IS YOUR CHILD POSTING IN A PEDOPHILE WEBSITE? STATISTICALLY THERE'S AN 80% CHANCE!" story? They'd moisten their undies when they open the Redditbomb in their email. Welcome, goons, to PEDOGEDDON 2: The PEDOPOCALYPSE --------------------------------------------------- Redditbomb distribution list Churches, PTAs, Schools -Act Local send it to nearby high schools and churches. If you're in America, there's easily 20 churches near your home. Each church will have 30 to several thousand parents that go to PTA meetings and talk to other parents. Send the "Redditbomb" to local politicians schools and churches. Let them see that their children are using a website that exploits and sexualizes children, requesting that children submit their own nude photos. Most importantly, Local News - Local News Stations -Your local paper TV News -ABC -CBS -NBC -CNN -FOX -MSNBC -Al Jazeera -BBC Newspapers -NY Times, NY Post (love salacious/scandalous poo poo) -WSJ -LA Times -SF Chronicle, Bee -Washington Post -Indianapolis Star -Atlanta Journal Constitution -Chicago Sun Times -everything at http://www.newslink.org/toptypes.html - everything here: http://www.theopedproject.org/index...id=47&Itemid=65 Government Officials -Your Senator -Your Representative -State Legislators -Governor Bloggers and Political Websites -Political bloggers of all stripes (dKos, Digby, Freep, etc) -Mommybloggers -Matt Drudge will love this poo poo -Huffington Post -Stephen Colbert -The Daily Show -Rachel Maddow Cops -FBI -Your local and state police departments - https://report.cybertip.org/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------  ------------------------------------------------------------ Just a few hours after the RedditBomb they're back to trying to skirt the law with a new subreddit: r/youngbeauty r/japanese_idols r/CuteTeens ------------------------------------------------------------ In last week's episode, YouTube superstar and Supposedly-Christian blogger "The Amazing Atheist" put a banana in his butt, had a meltdown, and said all women who have been raped deserved it and he would gladly surprise sex them again for disagreeing with him! ------------------------------------------------------------- You don't need to cite this post in order to redistribute. SA probably doesn't need the traffic from non-users. Just copy paste the Redditbomb below vvvvvvv ------------------------------------------------------------ Tony Danza Claus fucked around with this message at Feb 13, 2012 around 18:57 |
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The redditbomb, copy-paste:code:Tony Danza Claus fucked around with this message at Feb 12, 2012 around 17:31 |
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I support this message.
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American authorities aggressively pursue children who infringe on copyrights, but a massive website is allowed to knowingly host mountains of child pornography with no real consequences. Goddamn America.
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I support the effort, but I must say that "Pedocalypse" sounds better than "Pedopocalypse"
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Welp I clicked one of these links to see if it was really as terrible as you made it out to be and yep, it is. Time to go smash this hard drive with a sledgehammer.
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Is this the illegal type of child pornography or not? I'm not clicking these
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If there's grass on the pitch then let's play!
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OMG JC a Bomb! posted:American authorities aggressively pursue children who infringe on copyrights, but a massive website is allowed to knowingly host mountains of child pornography with no real consequences. Goddamn America. And people defend it. They really defend it.
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Starno posted:Is this the illegal type of child pornography or not? I'm not clicking these I think i know what you mean, but that still made me go "what".
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Starno posted:Is this the illegal type of child pornography or not? I'm not clicking these I'm going to take a guess based on the 1 thumbnail I saw and say it's extremely borderline.
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Sarah Palin posted:Welp I clicked one of these links to see if it was really as terrible as you made it out to be and yep, it is. Time to go smash this hard drive with a sledgehammer. The fact that there's one that is literal child porn is just hosed up. It's like it got worse after Jailbait got shut down. The fact that all these fucks would probably surprise sex a teenager if they got the chance is harrowing. gently caress reddit.
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Starno posted:Is this the illegal type of child pornography or not? I'm not clicking these i guess you'll find out when the FBI blows your door in.
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 Edit: For those who want a bit of a re-cap of Round 1, see this. The Dissonant fucked around with this message at Feb 12, 2012 around 16:47 |
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Starno posted:Is this the illegal type of child pornography or not? I'm not clicking these It's the kind you use a bullet to get out of your head.
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One of the most disturbing aspects of this is how quickly the majority of redditors will defend the use of reddit's servers to facilitate the spread of unambiguously morally reprehensible material. Just look here. Nearly every positively rated comment is in defense of reddit providing safe havens for people who openly encourage the sexual abuse of children, under some misguided notion that denying them that would be violating their right to "free speech." Reddit's user base is hosed up, and is not a thing I would like to be associated with in a positive way.
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I support your effort, but I don't even want to be tangentially linked to anything having to do with this kind of garbage. As screwed up as the American justice system is, I'm not sure the authorities would bother trying to differentiate between someone trying to help stop it and someone actively peddling this poo poo.
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Sarah Palin posted:I'm going to take a guess based on the 1 thumbnail I saw and say it's extremely borderline. Our counterpart in r/shitredditsays is managing documenting actual instances of undebatable child porn, which will not be linked to here. Secondly, this disproves completely the "it's only kiddie porn if Ron Paul says so" bullshit reddit defense: THIS IS THE CHILD PORN IS ILLEGAL COPYPASTA. CLICK SOURCE BELOW THIS COMMENT AND COPY AND PASTE THE WHOLE THING INTO WORD OR NOTEPAD. COPY AND PASTE IT AS MUCH AS YOU NEED TO, SPREAD THIS EVERYWHERE YOU CAN. In [New York v. Ferber](http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/cas/co...ech/ferber.html) (1982), the SCOTUS ruled that CP is unprotected, and importantly, and does not have to meet any of the requirements for the [Miller Test](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_test), meaning it is instantly qualified as illegal and obscene, and does not have to be demonstrated as such*. It is its own classification and is categorically illegal. **In 2008, the SCOTUS defended the PROTECT act, which illegalized** -- and this is the big one -- **knowingly advertising or distributing "an obscene visual depiction of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; or a visual depiction of an actual minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct."** That is, *YOU CAN'T POST A SEXUALIZED PICTURE OF A MINOR. IT'S A CRIMINAL OFFENSE PUNISHABLE UNDER A FEDERAL LAW THAT WAS CONSTITUTIONALLY UPHELD.* I think the point has been driven home about clothed CP still being CP, but the courts also upheld that aspect in 1994. To complete the point: this is not an issue of censorship, an issue of Reddit being a private entity, or an issue of morality: **any and all forms of CP on Reddit are illegal, and any user posting such pictures can and should be prosecuted under US federal statutes. It is not protected speech, and it is not a form of free speech.** [18 U.S.C. § 2256(2)(A)](http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/2256.html#2_A): > (A) Except as provided in subparagraph (B), “sexually explicit conduct” means actual or simulated— >> (i) sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex; >>> (ii) bestiality; >>> (iii) masturbation; >>> (iv) sadistic or masochistic abuse; or >>>(v) lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person; > (B) For purposes of subsection 8(B) [1] of this section, “sexually explicit conduct” means— >> (i) graphic sexual intercourse, including genital-genital, oral-genital, anal-genital, or oral-anal, whether between persons of the same or opposite sex, or lascivious simulated sexual intercourse where the genitals, breast, or pubic area of any person is exhibited; >> (ii) graphic or lascivious simulated; >>> (I) bestiality; >>> (II) masturbation; or >>>(III) sadistic or masochistic abuse; or >> (iii) graphic or simulated lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area of any person; > (3) “producing” means producing, directing, manufacturing, issuing, publishing, or advertising; > (4) “organization” means a person other than an individual; >(5) “visual depiction” includes undeveloped film and videotape, data stored on computer disk or by electronic means which is capable of conversion into a visual image, and data which is capable of conversion into a visual image that has been transmitted by any means, whether or not stored in a permanent format; > (6) “computer” has the meaning given that term in section 1030 of this title; > (7) “custody or control” includes temporary supervision over or responsibility for a minor whether legally or illegally obtained; > (8) “child pornography” means any visual depiction, including any photograph, film, video, picture, or computer or computer-generated image or picture, whether made or produced by electronic, mechanical, or other means, of sexually explicit conduct, where— >> (A) the production of such visual depiction involves the use of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; >> (B) such visual depiction is a digital image, computer image, or computer-generated image that is, or is indistinguishable from, that of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; or >> (C) such visual depiction has been created, adapted, or modified to appear that an identifiable minor is engaging in sexually explicit conduct. > (9) “identifiable minor”— >>(A) means a person— >>> (i) >>>> (I) who was a minor at the time the visual depiction was created, adapted, or modified; or >>>> (II) whose image as a minor was used in creating, adapting, or modifying the visual depiction; and >>>> (ii) who is recognizable as an actual person by the person’s face, likeness, or other distinguishing characteristic, such as a unique birthmark or other recognizable feature; and >> (B) shall not be construed to require proof of the actual identity of the identifiable minor. > (10) “graphic”, when used with respect to a depiction of sexually explicit conduct, means that a viewer can observe any part of the genitals or pubic area of any depicted person or animal during any part of the time that the sexually explicit conduct is being depicted; and > (11) the term “indistinguishable” used with respect to a depiction, means virtually indistinguishable, in that the depiction is such that an ordinary person viewing the depiction would conclude that the depiction is of an actual minor engaged in sexually explicit conduct. This definition does not apply to depictions that are drawings, cartoons, sculptures, or paintings depicting minors or adults. and [here is the case where the Dost criteria were drawn from, and here is the full text of the Dost criteria](http://scholar.google.com/scholar_c...000002&as_vis=1): > Instead this Court feels that, in determining whether a visual depiction of a minor constitutes a "lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area" under § 2255(2)(E), the trier of fact should look to the following factors, among any others that may be relevant in the particular case: >> 1) whether the focal point of the visual depiction is on the child's genitalia or pubic area; >> 2) whether the setting of the visual depiction is sexually suggestive, i.e., in a place or pose generally associated with sexual activity; >> 3) whether the child is depicted in an unnatural pose, or in inappropriate attire, considering the age of the child; >> 4) whether the child is fully or partially clothed, or nude; >> 5) whether the visual depiction suggests sexual coyness or a willingness to engage in sexual activity; >> 6) whether the visual depiction is intended or designed to elicit a sexual response in the viewer. > Of course, a visual depiction need not involve all of these factors to be a "lascivious exhibition of the genitals or pubic area." The determination will have to be made based on the overall content of the visual depiction, taking into account the age of the minor. > For example, consider a photograph depicting a young girl reclining or sitting on a bed, with a portion of her genitals exposed. Whether this visual depiction contains a "lascivious exhibition of the genitals" will depend on other aspects of the photograph. If, for example, she is dressed in a sexually seductive manner, with her open legs in the foreground, the photograph would most likely constitute a lascivious exhibition of the genitals. The combined effect of the setting, attire, pose, and emphasis on the genitals is designed to elicit a sexual response in the viewer, albeit perhaps not the "average viewer", but perhaps in the pedophile viewer. On the other hand, if the girl is wearing clothing appropriate for her age and is sitting in an ordinary way for her age, the visual depiction may not constitute a "lascivious exhibition" of the genitals, despite the fact that the genitals are visible.
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Is it necessary to link to the subreddits instead of just listing them? I feel like it's only unintentionally helping them if we give them more traffic and unintentionally letting others know where to get cp. Also, thanks for the thread, OP. I'll gladly do what I can to get the word out at least. This kind of thing is exactly why I deleted my reddit account last week and following the reddit thread in D&D; it's easy to go from thinking redditors are hilariously dumb to incredibly infuriating. e: Emails to my state's governor and Senators sent. Hope we can get something to happen out of this. Doctor Chef fucked around with this message at Feb 12, 2012 around 16:28 |
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Tony Danza Claus posted:The main purveyor of child porn on reddit is Violentacrez, who was the former leader of the "jailbait" subreddit, before Anderson Cooper's report [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuMd...feature=related] got it shut down: [http://www.reddit.com/user/violentacrez] It wasn't shut down because of AC's report on it, it was shut down because a guy posted a picture of his 14-year-old ex, said he had nudes, and then distributed them (according to the admins).
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I whole heartedly support this. I also see a lot of talk about reddit on Facebook, might be a good idea to inform people exactly what they're accessing. Maybe they already know, but everyone else on their face nook might not!
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Whats the issue with /r/trapbait? It just looks like tg girls and crossdressing guys.
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OMG JC a Bomb! posted:American authorities aggressively pursue children who infringe on copyrights, but a massive website is allowed to knowingly host mountains of child pornography with no real consequences. Goddamn America. Yes, and I fear they will turn this effort to enact the next version of SOPA. Still gently caress child porn and anyone who has anything to do with it.
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Wow. I am blown away. Links to this thread will be going up on Facebook. Are there any outside website that have information so nicely compiled in case people can view the forums? There really needs to be a super user-friendly website for this that concerned parents and the like can go to for reference. Also, how closely is reddit connected to 4chan? I notice both use the /letter/ categorization. MustelaFuro fucked around with this message at Feb 12, 2012 around 16:19 |
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KrautHedge posted:Whats the issue with /r/trapbait? It just looks like tg girls and crossdressing guys. Mostly borderline/questionable, sometimes blatant underage. also: if you want to link reddit users without a copy-paste: http://www.reddit.com/r/SRSBusiness...itbomb_welcome/
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MustelaFuro posted:Wow. I am blown away. Links to this thread will be going up on Facebook. Are there any outside website that have information so nicely compiled in case people can view the forums? Also, it REALLy doesn't help reddits case when they have sub forums specifically for gigs and stories of both physical child abuse and beating women. Good fuckign God.
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ChuckHead posted:Yes, and I fear they will turn this effort to enact the next version of SOPA. gently caress this child porn, not for the children being abused, but for the inevitable legislative response? This is something that needs to get shoved down anyone's throat who can do something with it, Reddit has been doing this for a while and their heads have proudly gone 'nah man it's not illegal by the letter of the law so really the girls are to blame here by having pictures' about it, it's pretty much total trash all around.
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Tony Danza Claus posted:CP B...but Ron Paul judicial activism SOPA! Checkmate, lieberals. 
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KrautHedge posted:Whats the issue with /r/trapbait? It just looks like tg girls and crossdressing guys. Its also pretty transphobic to refer to people as traps.
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KrautHedge posted:Whats the issue with /r/trapbait? It just looks like tg girls and crossdressing guys. It's run by a 20 year old British self loathing male-to-female transsexual who despises other transsexuals who don't pass (hence the self loathing) and has been thoroughly ostracised from the rest of the trans community on reddit. But yeah its just pictures of young transgirls/crossdressers. Slave fucked around with this message at Feb 12, 2012 around 21:08 |
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Toriori posted:Hmm, what if there was like a Facebook page that was up, so people could "share" it with their friends list? That would be good, but only provided it was unabashedly obviously anti-child porn. I wouldn't want to be connected to something that could in any way be mistaken as an interest in child porn.
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Just look at these amazing subreddits: http://www.reddit.com/r/PicsOfDeadJailbait http://www.reddit.com/r/PicsOfDeadkids What a wonderful section of the community.
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Maybe someone should remind the admins of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dost_test
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I just sent a copy of the Redditbomb to a blogger who writes for Skepchicks so it should be posted there soon.
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My understanding was that this was basically just reposted facebook/myspace/whatever pictures of underage kids last time around. As creepy and disgusting as that is, it's good to see the Reddit community stepping up their game with completely unambiguous child porn this time around. I love the internet.
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The Dissonant posted:
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The Dissonant posted:Violentacrez is seriously the creepiest individual I've ever encountered on the internet. Whenever you see something horrifically rapey and/or incesty and/or pedophillic...it was probably Violentacrez. The fact that he hasn't been banned yet is pretty much enough for me to deem reddit's admins as being disgusting human beings.
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Paradoxish posted:My understanding was that this was basically just reposted facebook/myspace/whatever pictures of underage kids last time around. As creepy and disgusting as that is, it's good to see the Reddit community stepping up their game with completely unambiguous child porn this time around. I love the internet. Well you see, Ayn Rand and Ron Paul said we have absolute unlimited freedoms, so the government can't tell us what we can and can't view. 
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Tony Danza Claus posted:Mostly borderline/questionable, sometimes blatant underage. I wouldn't even call it borderline, it's all very obvious underage girls and guys. They wouldn't be posting it and jerking off to it if it didn't involve teenagers.
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Fully supporting this. Reddit esse delendam.
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