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Ed Brill

To be fair, some of the tests of the Application Analyzer were completed on beta code of the new version, not the old 2003 version. The old 2003 version is still posted on Microsoft's website, while the beta 2006 release has been removed.

Peter de Haas

Michael,
Somehow I expected you to comment on this press release :-)

A few remarks :

***“Lotus Notes and Domino shops to migrate to Exchange and SharePoint”***

I am glad the comparison is no longer Lotus Notes Domino vs MS Exchange. I don’t think it is fully right to compare Lotus Notes Domino to MS Exchange and SharePoint either.
Lotus Notes Domino is an integrated set of functionality (or products) in essence a platform. This requires (and justifies) that you should compare platforms.
In the migration context, you should take into account additional elements of the Microsoft platform as well such as InfoPath (electronic forms) and looking at the more complex applications alo SQL Server and Visual Studio for the development of application(components).

It is however right to assume that a large portion of the Lotus Notes Domino databases/applications have (Windows) Sharepoint (Services) as the target platform, expecially now that Microsoft provides a lot of standard functionality and applications that replace the most common Lotus Notes Domino apps.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sppt/wssapps/default.mspx

***“The application development capabilities of Notes and Domino have made it a very sticky platform, due to the high cost involved in revamping a Notes/Domino application suite for a Microsoft environment. “***

Sticky is the right word for it :-). In many cases an organsiation with lets say 20.000 users has over 30.000 Notes databases, including replica’s.

As with any large base of application goes that application rationalization is the right approach, regardsless whether you are running Lotus Notes Domino, .NET or have thousands of Excel “apps”.
No organization should depend on thousands and thousands of applications for its business. I did an attempt over a year ago to address that : http://www.peterdehaas.com/2004/12/application_rat.html

***“There are three situations where a migration is valid and defensible:
(a) The business likes Microsoft's strategy and approach to messaging and collaboration better than it likes where Lotus is going.
(b) There has been a leadership decision to embrace Microsoft and shift away from Lotus. This is often called a "political" decision by those on the wrong side of it, that is, that the decision has not been made on solely on the results of a technical evaluation.
(c) The suite of custom Notes applications have become long in the tooth and are high cost items to maintain and upgrade and so an alternative is sought.”***

I would say your advise makes sence. I do think however that (a) and (b) are related. I would argue that every decision in an organization has political / emotional and whatever elements to it. The discussion is never solely about the functions and features of a product or solution.
You have to give Microsoft credit for the recognition they get from the industry on their vision and execution around the collaboration platform. This vision and recognition is paying in a great way

http://www.peterdehaas.com/2005/06/whats_microsoft.html

***” In these cases, what is to be done about custom applications? First of all, you have to know what you are talking about. An application audit is required, with applications being grouped into logical baskets. Second, the currency of each application needs to be ascertained. There will be some applications that are heavily used, others that are infrequently used, and some that can be archived.”***

The above is exactly what the Application Analyzer toolset is set out to do; collect the design / usage criteria, # replica’s, date last accessed, etc. of each individual database and process this for a first analysis.
Ofcourse the tool only collects the information; an additional tool (the dataprocessor, available to Microsoft partners) provides a more detailed analysis and reporting. Ofcourse this is a tool and expertise is needed, as well as knowledge from the developer(s) (if they are still with the company) to fully understand the more complex applications.

***“A one-to-one migration from a Notes application to a SharePoint site may be a really dumb idea, because the current and projected needs of the organization and its teams are not being taken into consideration”***

Spot on Michael. I haven’t seen this remark in many of the press / competitive coverage yet (and I am not cynical). No one migrates their applications over to another platform to get the same functionality.
Many applications may have been developed years ago and although they still provide the required functionality there may be dozens out-of-the-box applications / tools that provide exactly that functionality and more today.

Also don’t forget that many organizations that have migrated from Lotus Notes Domino to the Microsoft platform choose to have a number of applications to remain on the Domino platform where Domino becomes just another applications server. There are plenty of technologies that allow organization to intergrate / access these applications in a variety of ways (portals, browser, etc)

Michael Sampson

Thanks for your feedback and comments Peter. You raise some good points ... migration, custom applications, migration rational.

The one additional thought I would add ... is ... be careful about saying "no organization should depend on thousands and thousands of applications". In the Notes/Domino world, these are most likely to be a standard or customized template that enables a team to work together. In the SharePoint world, these are called "sites". Microsoft has something like 50,000 of these ... and HP said the other day at its "success with SharePoint" webinar that 3-4000 of these are created *per month*. So ... an organization isn't necessarily going to be any better / worse with SharePoint vs. Notes/Domino for an "application" count.

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