EntropiaForum.comEntropiaForum.com
  EntropiaForum.com
Home Forum Register Gallery Dev Posts Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read EF Chat

Go Back   EntropiaForum.com > Entropia Universe Info > Ask MindArk

Ask MindArk Have a question for the MindArk development team? Post it here!

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack (4) Thread Tools
Old 05-13-2011, 00:53   #1
Alpha
mastermesh Greenmastermesh Green
 
  Activity Longevity
2/2020/20
 
Posts: 686
Images: 25
Reputation: Green
Fame: 0 Achievements: 0
Are planet partners allowed to participate? Who can/cannot participate and at what level?

This post is a response to the forum threads at http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/fo...ittering-idiot! and at http://www.neverdie.com/neverdie-stu...rohibited.html

I'll post my question after the quotes that I'm wondering about.

Quote:
I guess since ROCKtropia & Next Island are close to launching and because today was a Landmark day as NEVERDIE Studios moved to our New Studio on Hollywood Blvd it is finally time for me to become a twittering idiot....

For those of u interested in keeping Track of My Raving...

You can follow me at "Nevereverdie"
Quote:
It has been brought to my attention that the Planet Partner Agreement strictly Prohibits Planet Owners or planet Partner Employees from Playing Entropia universe with private Avatars...

IF Mindark Choose to make public the specifics of this agreement, then that is up to them.

In general though What that means as far as I understand it regarding ROCKtropia and NEVERDIE Studios is that all of our Private Avatars must cease to engage in all End User Game Play activities, excluding perhaps logging in to manage pre-exisiting assets, until such time that employment is terminated.

All Official (Non Private) NDS or ROCktropia Avatars will be subject to Severe restrictions. (Management, Demo, Guide, Test, Roleplay Avatars, etc)

Further Clarification will be provided here if appropriate or necessary.


1) It is Possible to Create an Official Avatar for NEVERDIE or other NDS Employees to be used to enter the World and Chat with the community
Quote:
Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 1913 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQl
1 Jan � nevereverdie nevereverdie
Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 74 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQl
1 Jan � nevereverdie nevereverdie
Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 112 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQl
1 Jan � nevereverdie nevereverdie
Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 77 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQl
1 Jan � nevereverdie nevereverdie
Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 71 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQl
1 Jan � nevereverdie nevereverdie
Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 137 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQl
1 Jan � nevereverdie nevereverdie
Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 83 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQl
1 Jan � nevereverdie nevereverdie
Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 81 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQl
1 Jan � nevereverdie nevereverdie
Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 67 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQl
1 Jan � nevereverdie nevereverdie
Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 78 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQl
1 Jan � nevereverdie nevereverdie
Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 138 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQl
1 Jan � nevereverdie nevereverdie
Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 72 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQl
1 Jan � nevereverdie nevereverdie
Constructed OreAmp OA-101 (L) with a value of 2597 PED at Rocktropia! http://bit.ly/aCgUQl
Does the Planet Partner Agreement really contain the prohibitions listed above?

Are planet partners, their shareholders, company owners (and/or investors), employees of planet partners, or those that are contracted with planet partners in some way, such as through the purchase of LAs before planets exist, allowed to 'participate' in Entropia Universe with personal avatars, and if so at what level of participation are each of those allowed to participate? Are the planet partners and employees of planet partners required to turn in to Mindark the name of their avatar(s) at the time they begin working for planet partners? Are they allowed to use the mine, craft, hunt, loot, use the auction, teleport in a way that provides profits to hanger owners, participate in any other way?

If they are allowed to participate, are there rules on what they can and cannot do and can that be made public? Also, if there is a list of 'known' planet partner avatars is it possible that you can provide them to the community so that when we see planet partner employees in game we know we are not dealing with a normal participant? If you cannot do that can you at least make all planet partner avatars show up with different color text, icons over their heads like the npcs around Port Atlantis, or something so that they are easily identifiable in game?

Does the rule about employees of planet partners apply to all employees, or just certain employees, i.e. only full time employees, or part time employees/interns too? Is there any rules on 'how long' the non-participation must be done? Can a person that had an avatar that worked for a planet partner start participating again on the day they quit or are fired, or must they wait a certain number of days/months/years before they can fully participate again?

Also, are Mindark shareholders and/or employees allowed to participate? Regarding some posts over at http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/fo...nterview/page2

It appears that there is some questions being raised. It appears that some 'owners' of Mindark shares may be actually participating with an avatar. This is an entirely seperate issue but is related to the question of if planet partners are allowed to participate...

So:
Officially, are planet partners allowed to participate as participants?

Officially, are planet partner employees allowed to participate as participants?

Officially, are Mindark Shareholders allowed to participate as participants?

Officially, are Mindark employees allowed to participate as participants?

Officially, are Planet Partners allowed to own shares of Mindark itself?

Officially, are those that are third party contractors in contracts with Planet Partners or Mindark (in LA ownership deals set out outside of the game itself, etc.) allowed to participate?

Are Planet Partners' employees required to provide information about any of their own personal avatars to Mindark that might be useful information in helping Mindark keep planet partners' employees from participating, if they indeed are not supposed to participate?

Mods feel free to delete the part in the above about particular avatars if you wish. I'm just not sure how to word the questions right without asking about particular 'known' examples of what I'm asking about. If someone else can ask in a better way in a reply here, feel free to shoot away.

If the prohibition listed on Rocktropia forums is true, what exactly does "manage pre-exisiting assets" mean? Wouldn't items looted through hunting, mining or crafting count as new assets instead of pre-existing assets?

Last edited by mastermesh; 06-08-2011 at 16:41.
mastermesh is offline  
Sponsored Links
Old 05-13-2011, 06:23   #2
Hatchling
Mikeemooo Inept
 
  Activity Longevity
0/2016/20
 
Posts: 2
Reputation: Inept
Fame: 0 Achievements: 0

Just adding my support of this question. I would like to see this answered too
Mikeemooo is offline  
Old 05-13-2011, 13:07   #3
Alpha
mastermesh Greenmastermesh Green
 
  Activity Longevity
2/2020/20
 
Posts: 686
Images: 25
Reputation: Green
Fame: 0 Achievements: 0

Another question related to this... If Neverdie's statement that planet partners cannot participate is true, and it turns out that he's been participating for over a year after Rocktropia went live, will other planet partners be allowed the same amount of time to sell out their assets and participate in game after their planets go live?

Also, will anything be retroactively done about any participation that planet partners and planet partner employees have done since the new planets went live? I believe the twitter feed indicates that Neverdie recently went to Calypso from Rocktropia in May, 2011. If he did, I'd assume that the tp fee was paid to do that, which affects more partipants then himself as the hanger owners get a payment off of that fee... which is definitely a payment for something that is does not seem to be related to pre-existing assets directly... and is something that I don't believe 'had to be paid' since support can and does seem to have the power to move in game assets from location to location on request. For example when the 'resettlement' occured at vu 10.0 the items of all avatars with estates were removed from the estates to the participant's strorage, and at various times my own avatar has had items stuck in walls in estates that I had to ask support to move to storage, which they promptly did without any hassles or transport fees of any sort, so I'd assume a similar type of thing could have been done across the planets to avoid the tp fee?

Last edited by mastermesh; 05-13-2011 at 13:35.
mastermesh is offline  
Old 05-13-2011, 13:59   #4
Young
Ubering Inept
 
  Activity Longevity
3/2016/20
 
Posts: 12
Reputation: Inept
Fame: 0 Achievements: 0

registered my acount here again

bump cuz this is the biggest question so far
Ubering is offline  
Old 05-13-2011, 22:07   #5
Young
Alwyn GreenAlwyn Green
 
Alwyn's Avatar
 
  Activity Longevity
0/2020/20
 
Location: England
Gender: Female Ingame: Female
Avatar Name:
Lady Alwyn Azalea
Soc: Natural Born Killers <3
Posts: 12
Reputation: Green
Fame: 0 Achievements: 0

And another bump. Many want to know the answer to these.
Alwyn is offline  
Old 05-14-2011, 12:10   #6
Alpha
mastermesh Greenmastermesh Green
 
  Activity Longevity
2/2020/20
 
Posts: 686
Images: 25
Reputation: Green
Fame: 0 Achievements: 0

I guess I'll bump this one up since there's been no answer here yet. Also, this issue has been submitted in the support ticket system through Planet Calyspo already and the response was
Quote:
Since we are working with technical support for the Planet Calypso, we suggest that you instead contact Mindark
so I'm guessing this is the right place to ask these questions?

Last edited by mastermesh; 05-14-2011 at 12:16.
mastermesh is offline  
Old 05-14-2011, 12:34   #7
Planet Calypso Official
Kim|Calypso GreenKim|Calypso Green
 
Kim|Calypso's Avatar
 
  Activity Longevity
0/2016/20
 
Location: Sweden
Gender: Male Ingame: Female
Avatar Name:
MindArk Official Supremacy
Posts: 318
Images: 8
Reputation: Green
Fame: 0 Achievements: 0

Hi there,

I understand your desire for a clarification in this matter but It's not something that im in a position to discuss. I have however told one of my superiors about this thread and hopefully Ill be able to post a response from him.

Cheers
Kim|Calypso is offline  
Old 05-14-2011, 15:05   #8
Mature
Mortar4you Inept
 
  Activity Longevity
0/2019/20
 
Gender: Male Ingame: Male
Avatar Name:
Getheniel Will Zorander
Soc: Rapture of Rebellion
Posts: 53
Reputation: Inept
Fame: 0 Achievements: 0

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim|MindArk View Post
Hi there,

I understand your desire for a clarification in this matter but It's not something that im in a position to discuss. I have however told one of my superiors about this thread and hopefully Ill be able to post a response from him.

Cheers
You're my new favorite person. Questions being answered... Those that can't be answered directly being forwarded and we're being told about it and not left to wonder...

This is a very good trend I hope to see it continue
Mortar4you is offline  
Old 05-15-2011, 09:05   #9
Provider
BlackHawk Weak
 
  Activity Longevity
0/2019/20
 
Posts: 136
Images: 1
Reputation: Weak
Fame: 0 Achievements: 0

Forums are a can of worms since some events occurred. A clarification on those matters will be needed sooner rather than later. And to be honest, an answer is not what I wait. But a solution.
BlackHawk is offline  
Old 05-19-2011, 05:35   #10
Young
Casay Inept
 
  Activity Longevity
0/2016/20
 
Posts: 20
Reputation: Inept
Fame: 0 Achievements: 0

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kim|MindArk View Post
Hi there,

I understand your desire for a clarification in this matter but It's not something that im in a position to discuss. I have however told one of my superiors about this thread and hopefully Ill be able to post a response from him.

Cheers
I hope so too............. waiting
Casay is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Thread Tools


LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://www.entropiaforum.com/forum/ask-mindark/199721-planet-partners-allowed-participate-who-can-cannot-participate-what-level.html
Posted By For Type Date
Was NEVERDIE'S statement just marketing? This thread Refback 06-07-2011 20:20
FYI: NDS Q&A Results! Post #0 Refback 05-30-2011 00:20
There is something wrong here. This thread Refback 05-22-2011 01:22
Why should I migrate to Arkadia? This thread Refback 05-17-2011 13:12

Sponsored Links

Unable to open RSS Feed http://188.114.159.235/api/ubersTotal.asp with error couldn't connect to host, exiting
All times are GMT. The time now is 07:09.


Copyright ©2005 - 2013, EntropiaForum.com.
Entropia Universe is a registered trademark of Mindark PE AB.
All other copyrights and trademarks are property of their respective owners.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

~ Entropia Universe | Entropia Radio | Entropia Wiki | EntropiaLife