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Belle & Sebastian – ANOTHER SUNNY DAY
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Glasgow, United Kingdom (1996 – present)
Based in Glasgow, Scotland, Belle and Sebastian released their first two albums in 1996 at the peak of the chamber pop movement.
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Rafael_Pirulito
Seriously? It needs to merged. I have the "two bands" in my charts by albums. There is no reason for this mess.
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CatalystDM
two completely different bands, if you ask me. I prefer Belle.
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exSpectacularrr
@sunheadbowed: Apologies, I committed the cardinal Last.FM sin of using words with more than 2 syllables and sentences with more than 10 words. Let me rephrase for your internet convenience: "Eat my hairy balls, you poop-smeared anus bead."
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neurotripsy
Please merge!
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doomhymns
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sunheadbowed
Do shut up.
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exSpectacularrr
Notice, for instance, how when they use the word "and" the name is usually given in all-caps Helvetica, which is a very modern, minimalist, austere look. Conversely, when they use the "&", the name is often written in script, which is overtly cutesy, precious, and "antique." In other words, whoever does their packaging and branding design has definitely had thoughts and conversations along these lines (further evidenced by the very recognizable hallmark visual style they've developed across all their album covers). All that said, "modern hipster minimalism" isn't their sound even if that's their target market, so I believe the "&" is a more honest signifier. /{End nerd time.}
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exSpectacularrr
I'm not saying the band themselves necessarily thinks or cares about any of this -- this is the case I would make as a text designer if we were designing an ad for them. If this is something that their branding agent has ever discussed with them, they may well have decided to move away from the "&" to seem *less* precious, and more minimalist in the contemporary hipster pose.
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exSpectacularrr
Another reason: Their style of music is rather baroque chamber pop, and an "&" in "Belle & Sebastian" is, visually, more suggestive of that tone, because typographically, an "&" is perceived as somewhat "fancier" and "more old fashioned," which is also what we mean these days by a "baroque" sound. (To take the converse, it would probably stand out as a little queer to see some bare-nuckled, earthy punk band or white-power redneck band using an "&" in their name, whereas something "precious," "fancy," "French," etc. is where an "&" would look right at home.)
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exSpectacularrr
In the same way that "@" can, since the internet, be read as "at," yet there are many uses for either where it would look exceedingly strange -- i.e., wrong -- to replace one with the other. In other words, although "&" is read aloud as "and," they are not automatically interchangeable; in practice we reserve a few subtly distinct uses for each. An "&" is preferable in this instance.
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exSpectacularrr
A view from the copyediting desk: "&" is more suggestive of a pair or union and thus is typically reserved for names and titles (e.g., you would essentially never see multiple "&" in one phrase, nor is the ampersand typically used in whole sentences), whereas "and" is more open to being interpreted merely as a list or succession. Therefore, given that "Belle & Sebastian" is a title that suggests a union (and moreover, is a reference to yet another such pair), the "&" is stylistically preferable. (And Last.FM's auto-corrections can suck it!)
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Hulelam
Bell end sebastian
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mikohp
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=274333182668042&set=a.274332809334746.48834.221575837943777&type=1&theater here's the album with signs to win
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Miko_Lolali
And the Lord said, merge '&' and 'And' into one central page, 'Belle & Sebastian'. [2]
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hiperfenomeno
Look at the motherfucking albums, most of them say "Belle AND Sebastian".
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NeighborTotoro
I've had the ampersand since day one (1)and so does Discogs.com; fuck it, I'm keeping it. Oh, and their music is great, more importantly.
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axdck
Sarah from the band she says she puts "&" because "it looks nicer on her ipod"... good enough for me :) [4]
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axdck
SWEET JESUS, MERGE THEM ALREADY
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Yonn1979
MERGE PLZ
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