Good morning Warren and Friends
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Warren, have you heard of any changes planned by BMW to "quiet" its stop-start system? I confess I have not experienced similar systems in other make cars, but the shuddering from the 328i test car I drove recently made me cross this car off my list.
Lou Ann Hammond :
Good morning,
Now I am going to have to drive the 328 again! All of the companies using start-stop are concerned about noise and lag. Chevy just installed what they are calling "change of mind" so that there is no lag in between the time you are about to stop and the time you change your mind and keep going.
http://www.drivingthenation.com/?p=8941
– November 15, 2013 11:03 AM
USA Today on Monday, Nov. 11, 2013 page 5B rated COMPACT cars costing about $20,000 in the following order. 1 Kia Forte LX, 2. Hyundai Elantra GLS 3. Honda Civic LX, 4. Nissan Sentra, SV, 5.Toyota Corolla LE ECO 6. Subaru Impreza 2.01 and 7. Ford Focus S. I'm in the market. Any suggestions of your own based on the following criteria: safety; reliability; comfort? Styling is not important to me.
Lou Ann Hammond :
Since you put safety first I would go with the Honda. 96% of all Honda have a backup camera as standard. If you have children, live in a neighborhood full of children you know it only takes a few seconds for them to run in back of you. Backup cameras and sensors should have been made standard by now by NHTSA is dragging their feet.
All of these vehicles are good on reliability.
If it were comfort I might add the Nissan Altima with their zero gravity seats. They are so comfortable, especially on a long trip.
– November 15, 2013 11:06 AM
I am a fan of relatively-high-performance hatchbacks, GTI, etc. There are several available now, do you think that these will continue to be popular in the the future (5-10 years)?
Thanks
Lou Ann Hammond :
I think they will become more popular. The older generation spent their life being hauled in a station wagon. To this day it is difficult to get a car company to call a station wagon a station wagon because people don't want to buy what their parents bought. I don't know why station wagons got such a bum rap, but many cars that could be called station wagons are being called hatchbacks. They are on their way back.
– November 15, 2013 11:09 AM
Just curious why there aren't more options for more fuel efficient people haulers. Looking at our car's trip computer I see that we average around 26 mph because we basically just do circles in the city transporting kids to and from school/activities. Would love to see someone make a large vehicle w/ a hybrid powertrain that delivers above 30 mpgs in city driving as that's what we do 95% of the time.
Warren Brown :
There are manyoptions for reasonably fuel efficient people haulers. Just check kbb.com, edmunds.com, cars.com. The real question: Why aren't there more affordable, fuel-efficient people haulers. That's because fuel efficiency--gas electric, diesel-electric, diesel, plug-in electric--all costs money.
Lou Ann here:
you can also look at fueleconomy.gov to see what other people are getting for their fuel.
– November 15, 2013 11:14 AM
My father, an avid hunter, is spending his retirement criss-crossing the middle of the country from Texas to South Dakota, so he is looking for a smallish, fuel efficient SUV . While there are obviously a lot to choose from, the hard part is that he needs one that actually can drive across open fields and muddy terrain, not just a dressed up station wagon. Any suggestions for the most fuel efficient, offroad-capable SUV? Thanks.
Lou Ann Hammond :
There are some great little SUVs these days. I don't have ground clearance memorized,but that is what I would look at as one of the main criteria for you.
Here's a list of some of my favorites;(not in any order)
Subaru Forester (they have a crosstek that I haven't driven)
Mazda CX5
Volkswagen Tiguan
Buick Encore
Hyundai Tucson (Santa Fe if you want a little bigger)
Kia Sportage
Toyota RAV4
Ford escape
Landrover Evoque
Chevy Equinox
Nissan Rogue
Try driving those and tell me what you think.
– November 15, 2013 11:16 AM
Are cars safe when jostled on tractor-trailers for 3,000 in a cross-country move? Does the car suffer wear and tear, or worse, in such a configuration? Is it better to just drive the car? {Should the gas tank be full, BTW, if transported?}
Warren Brown :
Most of the cars sold in this country are jostled somewhere in some manor in transport from factory to dealere. Yes, they are safe.
– November 15, 2013 11:17 AM
In last week's chat, I believe it was Warren who referred to some diesel-electric hybrid vehicles are are coming down the line. Do you know anything you can share about manufacturers and timelines?
Warren Brown :
Were looking at 2015/2016. Probably from the Germans. That is all I can say at the moment.
– November 15, 2013 11:19 AM
We missed you last week!
Lou Ann Hammond :
Thank you. We buried my husband's Mother last week. Jeanne was a WAC in WWII and now rests with her husband, Cal, at Arlington Cemetery. Cal was at Omaha beach during WWII. She was interred 3 days before Veterans day.
Thank you.
– November 15, 2013 11:19 AM
My TV at home has a DVR which lets me pause live TV and even rewind the program. There are times when I am waiting for the traffic report and then get distracted to the point I miss hearing if they said something about my commute. I would love to be able to rewind the radio 30 seconds to replay the traffic report instead of having to wait 10 minutes for it to come on again. Any chance they will add such a feature to car radios in the near future (assuming it isn't already available).
Warren Brown :
It all depends on the onboard navigation system you get. I can always get the latest traffic situation on Honda, Nissan, and some GM systems.
– November 15, 2013 11:20 AM
Our family of 3 is looking to purchase a new car within the next 12 months. Interested in a small SUV for our urban lifestyle and trips visit family/vacations. I really like the CX-5 design. What else should we consider? Thanks!
Lou Ann Hammond :
I just posted on that above, but I will list them again. If anyone else has one they like please feel free to let me know.
I like Mazda, I like the CX-5. I would put that high on the list of a vehicle to buy. Here are some more
Subaru Forester (they have a crosstek that I haven't driven)
Mazda CX5
Chevy Equinox
Nissan Rogue
Volkswagen Tiguan
Buick Encore
Hyundai Tucson (Santa Fe if you want a little bigger)
Kia Sportage
Toyota RAV4
Ford escape
Landrover Evoque
– November 15, 2013 11:21 AM
Hi,
I test drove the Hybrid and I do like it but it only has a one disc CD and I am always listening to books on CD in the car. Also the inventory of the Hybrid is limited in my area and no financing is available from Honda for the hybrid, So my question is what else should I look at? And someone suggested not going with a hybrid Accord but go with a regular Accord because the resale value of the hybrids is low and the cost difference between a regular Accord and a hybrid Accord will make up for the difference in mpg. Your thought please. Thanks
Warren Brown :
Resale values change with circumstances. What has a low resale value today could have a high one tomorrow. I'm betting that the excellent Honda Accord Hybrid will retain its value over the years, Consult the aftermarket for another onboard disc player.
– November 15, 2013 11:23 AM
I call them estate or tourings but they have morphed in CUVs and mini vans. Someone needs to reimagine the Olds Vistacruiser for 2017. They are very few real Suvs and station wagons left. Mercedes, Audi, VW and BMW all have station wagons but dont import all their models to North America. BMW has or used to have a M5 touring. Mercedes does go AMG with their tourings Clifton, VA
Warren Brown :
They are all station wagon masquerading under different marketing names, Clifton.
– November 15, 2013 11:24 AM
I have a 328i with the Start/Stop system. A lot of time I don't even notice when it "stops" and I actually like that I can feel it start up again. It takes a little getting used to, but now if it doesn't stop I find myself wondering why (usually it's because the car hasn't warmed up enough or I have too many things running like the heated seats, heated steering wheel & the heat blasting)
Lou Ann Hammond :
And you still get decent fuel economy with all those things running because start-stop saves fuel. My understanding is the EPA is going to start counting start-stop in their fuel savings which is why you will see this technology become more available on all cars.
– November 15, 2013 11:24 AM
Most folks use 7 seaters for trips and their hobbies and purchase them for this reason rather than short urban commutes. Audi I believe has hybrid Q5. Diesel is another option. You could get a 2013 Tahoe as a hybrid? Also remember that most 7 seaters have those last seats in vehicle crush zone in the rear. Do you want your kids seating there?
Warren Brown :
No, I don't want anyone sitting back there. But you have more of a rear crush zone in things GM. Diesel Tahoe? I have to check.
– November 15, 2013 11:26 AM
Lou Ann How many of the SUVS you mentioned can go across a muddy field and not get stuck??? Everything you listed is a dressed up station wagon. OP father has three options: Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk edition turbo 4 or V6 Range Rover Evoque and slightly larger and more expensive but fuel efficient Jeep Grand Cherokee diesel. OP dad needs to get skidplates as option for either Jeep. He needs tow hooks for what he needs a SUVS for. Only SUV you listed that might be able to get across the muddy field at the end of a tow rope is the Forester. Clifton, VA
Lou Ann Hammond :
Those are a different group of SUVs, not small suvs.
– November 15, 2013 11:28 AM
We're finally planning to put our beloved 2001 Toyota Solara out to pasture. Family of 4, mostly urban driving with a couple of long haul trips each year. I've been impressed by the Ford Fusion Hybrid and definitely want to test it. What would you suggest for a good direct comparison? I'm curious about the C-Max, but we have a RAV-4, so I was thinking more along the lines of a sedan. to complement it.
Warren Brown :
Certainly, the Honda Accord Hybrid, which I've fallen in love with. What a solid, easy-to-drive, reasonably fuel-efficient car!
– November 15, 2013 11:31 AM
Hi, Lou Ann and Warren: I took two BMW driver training classes before my 325i arrived in 2002. The thing that has always stuck with me: drive for the conditions. It doesn't matter what the speed limit is. If it's prudent to drive only 30 mph in a 50 zone, don't drive faster. I never had winter tires before this car, but I'd never go without winter tires today. Couple other points: please clean off all windows and light, turn full headlights on when necessary, and leave much more room when driving in poor weather. (Sorry for your loss, Lou Ann.) Garey, Ottawa
Warren Brown :
No argument here. I heartily agree.
Thanks Garey. and thanks for the tips.
– November 15, 2013 11:36 AM
Was designed to compete with CRV, RAV4 and the Escape Lou Ann. They are about the same size.
I drive across fields muddy, semi muddy, snow covered and dry on a weekly basis and sorry none of the vehicles you listed can do what the OP dad needs to do. There AWD systems cant handle mud.
Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk edition also has tires ie All terrains which will help.
Clifton, VA
Lou Ann Hammond :
okay, I'll put them up there and OP can decide.
– November 15, 2013 11:37 AM
I drove a Camaro as a rental car last week in San Francisco. Who buys the non-convertible version of these things? Terrible sight lines combined with mediocre mirrors make driving in the city a "fun" experience. Handling was decent; not great. Only straight-line performance was amusing.
On the plus side, I loved the heads-up display and wished my current car had it.
Lou Ann Hammond :
Welcome to my side of the world! (I live in CA) San Francisco is probably one of the hardest cities to drive in because of all the hills and one-way streets.
I find most of the muscle cars that way, great for straight-line but not fun going into the apex.
heads-up display (HUD) is becoming more available and I agree with you, love it.
– November 15, 2013 11:41 AM
GM does have a habit of outfitting its vehicles with fat A and B pillars. But they've never created a driving problem for me. But other people, including my wife, have complained about them, as she is doing now about the A pillars in the Buick LaCrosse.
I agree with Clifton. Most of those small CUV's listed would probably get stuck in a muddy field. It seems the father is looking for an SUV with a low-range/locking 4x4 transfer case. Does any of those listed have that?
Warren Brown :
Try the RangeRover/Lan Rover Evoque, or a Jeep.
– November 15, 2013 11:42 AM
I also love the idea of a "radio dvr"-does Honda's system store the traffic situation so it can be retrieved?
Warren Brown :
Nissan, Honda, GM, Mercedes-Benz, to my knowledge, all have onboard navigation systems that note current traffic situations.
– November 15, 2013 11:44 AM
One other SUV for OP dad might be a Toyota 4runner.
Here is a video of the 2014 toyota 4runner in mild-offroading
http://www.drivingthenation.com/?p=8827
My Tomtom GPS gets traffic information via radio signal. It can calculate delays and show where traffic is moving slow. But, it doesn't have the actual report where they can say that the right lane is closed at mile marker 83 or that a truck tipped over which will take longer to clear.
Warren Brown :
yes, ToTom is a good system. Best to check Consumer Reports for best onboard navigation systems, features and prices.
– November 15, 2013 11:57 AM
Thank you Warren and Matt for another great chat. Join us next Friday.
And remember
Never drive faster than your Angel can fly.
much love