A few days ago, video surfaced of Pun’s wife making claims that she lives in a homeless shelter & her family struggling. Of course, Fat Joe was painted as the evil villain in the case. Knowing there would be two sides, I didn’t want to really shine light on it until Joe spoke up. Now, he’s released a statement.
“Immediately after Puns death I gave Liza Rios the whole advance of the Endangered Species album, NO ONE but Liza made a dollar off that album. I also gave her the total advance from the publishing company that was due to Big Pun.
I’ve never made a dollar off Big Pun since his passing. This was hundreds of thousands of dollars of frivolous spending, after the second payoff I washed my hands. Since then we have been through 6 lawyers, harassment on various radio stations and online mediums every time she needs more money. I also have legal documents stating that NO ONE is making money off of Big Pun.
I sympathize with Liza, but I have done already done enough for her. In these economic times we as parents need to be resilient and do what it takes to provide for our own families.” [Life Files]
As far as her “fighting” Pun’s memory, I’m thinking she’s having the opposite effect by continuing to detail the domestic abuse while Pun’s not available to share his side of the story. Going in-detail about how he chose to punish the kids & such portrays Pun as evil.
With the money & Joe, my Spidey senses say that Joe’s most likely speaking the truth (aside from the “NO ONE is making money off Pun” statement because someone surely is). There’s been several instances of former Terror Squad members expressing their displeasure with Joe & we all know the music business is full of shady dealings. But saying that he hasn’t given her the money Pun’s estate is entitled to seems strange. In fact, it seems especially odd to consider that he would publicly & financially mistreat the family of his star protege, knowing that fans would be watching with wary eyes. Living artists? Sure, I believe that Joe sits in meetings humming the chorus The ‘Nuts “Do You Believe?” But not with Pun.
At the end of the day, it’s all about getting your affairs in order in black & white.
Props to Ms. Drama
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I wouldn’t tatto a dudes name on my hand, then leave his kids in a
homeless shelter.
But then again, what’s love got to do with it.
This is sorrowful, just goes to show that true friends and alliances are hard to come by, in this age of material greed and madness.
its fucked up…
*goes back to wormin*
Always two sides to every story..but this can’t be a good look for crack.
Gortex with the lot/five sixty-four bills a pop/I’m hot/who wanna get burned?/I fire one in your knot and watch your whole fuckin head turn/You best learn to parlay/ I’ve had a hard day/Fuck around with the Don and get John Blazed…
Whattayagonnado?
I never really was a fan of Big Pun truth be told, but it must be said that somebody has made some cash money at his expense.
Maybe, the publishing rights and royalty paperwork wasn’t in correct order and so the payments to his estate eventually dried up?
I feel sorry for his widow, however, I don’t think this will resolve anything.
There are people who go through shit like this, but I wish her much power and hope things work out alright in the long run.
Man listen, give me a couple hundred thou & I’ll get a job to take care of everything. A few life adjustments & shit, boom. Back in order. A hundred thousand may not be a lot in rapper money, but a regular mofo should be able to stay above a homeless shelter w/that shit.
Sure, Joe may get a few pennies off whatever but that’s shoe money lol. The finger probably should be pointed @ Pun’s own mismanagement & the label as the ones cashing checks.
She reminds me of Wee-Bey’s wife/Naymond’s mom. Brianna I think her name was.
@Gotty, so would that be Messrs Rifkind, Schott Free and Matt Life?
She said a fair proportion of the monies went towards clearing mortgage arrears.
I don’t soil the dead, however, this hints towards living beyond your means.
Also final thought, I doubt the publishing rights for Big Pun’s catalogue is hardly Michael Jackson money. However, at the end of the day I suppose every penny counts.
@ Guy Fawkes- Brianna was Avons sister…cant remember Namonds moms name tho.
@ Gotty-Cosign.
Liza speaks the truth.
Regardless of whether Joe fucked them over or not, has homegirl ever heard of getting a job? Ever heard of handling your B.I.? She really sat back for the last 10 years waiting on music money?
There’s plenty of single mothers out there that make it happen for they kids, mine included. Don’t give me no muhfuckin excuses.
After Pun died this bird spent the next five years blowing six figures trying to stay in the mansion he was leasing and front. Did she have a record deal and show money coming in? Hell no. She thought Pun was her meal ticket to eat off Fat Joe forever. Welcome to reality. Get off your ass doing interviews about the past and get your seeds out that dirty f*cking shelter.
Loser-ass bitch…GET A FUCKING JOB!!! Like Gotty said: Give me six figures and I’m straight as 6 o’clock; there is no excuse except profligate spending for being broke after receiving such large financial remuneration. Fuckouttahere!!!
The irony in this whole situation is that Liza should have never been so upfront about Pun abusing her…..she may have gotten a quick little check for that one bum juice DVD of Pun pistol whipping her, but keeping positive memories of him and having people believe the best about him would have been her best bet in the long run……in addition, people need to quit believing everything they hear in songs, people don’t have money like that, Joe doesn’t have stacks upon stacks to support this girthy broad, clearly she hasn’t missed a meal, so she can’t be that bad off
Namond’smom = De’Londa Brice
Never really been impressed by Ms. Rios, I don’t doubt that Joey is still getting paid off Pun (I mean Puff is still “getting paid” off of B.I.G. even if he’s not directly – although poor example as he is getting paid directly, I’m sure there’s a better example). That said I’m not as comfortable with Joey leaving his “twin’s” offspring in the shelter. It just sorta hurts.
I mean being the child of the first Latin rapper to baffle your skull should get you something. “Dream Shatterer” is a thing of beauty.
It does look like mismanaging of money; but I feel bad that the kids have to suffer for her mistakes.
She came to St. John’s at a showing of the documentary. And after the movie, she started talking about how Joe ain’t gave her a dime since the funeral and such.
Then a chick in the audience asked just what Gotty brought up…Only it was in a more subtle fashion. I only feel bad for the kids. She is an adult, I am not saying that she should be living in a mansion, but she definitely could have gotten an above average crib with proper money management.
yo seriously, I am reading these comments and some of yall are way off… What world do you live in that $116K can last you 9 years? Think about it, that works out to $12888 per year, $1074 a month, $268.50 a week… With 3 kids and a mortgage? And you know Pun had some Credit Card Debt, you guys have to be real ignorant to say that you can live off of that. Granted she should have gotten a job to help supplement that money, but you don’t know the situation, childcare costs money as does everything else, to sit here and say, it’s her 100% her fault, it just stupid. Fat Joe said he gave her all of the advance off the Endangered Species album, but where is the rest of the album sales after the label recouped, who owned the merchandising rights? Fat Joe didnt profit off the album my a$$, he is still profitting from it imo.
Endangered spesies bricked…160K was a pretty decent kickback.
And No, that is not enough to live on for ten years…but the lady should’ve at least put the money to WORK if not get to working herself.
No Doubt Joey Crack isn’t clean in this whole shit, but she’s as culpable for her current state…. SMH @ her expecting to live comfortably off of her dead husband’s legacy… the real world doesn’t work like that. And you know Pun’s management team wasn’t the most prudent when it came to finances.
Sad shit
It’s obvious that none of you realize that Joe has been holding off of other Royalties that Liza never received. Besides the fact the ever since Pun died Joe has released tracks that sound so much like they belonged to Pun.
Yes, I believe he stole Pun’s rhyme book, incorporated his style into his own and shitted on his self proclaimed “Twin’s” Family by not giving them the support they needed. You people talk about her getting a job and doing this and doing that but obviously none of you have had the life of luxury these artist have (not that I have but know people who do). And, it’s hard having that lifestyle and then having to switch back to going to the Barrio in the BX. Picture Bill Gates living in Compton because Microsoft went out of business!!!
It’s obvious that none of you realize that Joe has been holding off of other Royalties that Liza never received. Besides the fact the ever since Pun died Joe has released tracks that sound so much like they belonged to Pun.
Yes, I believe he stole Pun’s rhyme book, incorporated his style into his own and shitted on his self proclaimed “Twin’s” Family by not giving them the support they needed. You people talk about her getting a job and doing this and doing that but obviously none of you have had the life of luxury these artist have (not that I have but know people who do). And, it’s hard having that lifestyle and then having to switch back to going to the Barrio in the BX. Picture Bill Gates living in Compton because Microsoft went out of business!!!
I Don’t think so, joe did gave pun’s family his money, but liza shitted on pun on that DVD, if pun was an abusive husband, she should have just called the police and file charges against him, but noooo, she stayed with him and continue her slutty ways, She spend all that money, it’s not joe’s fault.
yeah idk if yall realize this but liza was his manager and accountant and he did beat her ass, many of time’s and on? top of that she wiped his ass,got him dressed,and held his dick when his fat ass had to piss so she deserves some motherfuking royalties and im out peace stay high
420forreal says:
May 10, ’11 at 10:53 am
yeah idk if yall realize this but liza was his manager and accountant and he did beat her ass, many of time’s and on? top of that she wiped his ass,got him dressed,and held his dick when his fat ass had to piss so she deserves some motherfuking royalties and im out peace stay high
that’s not gonna happen this time, fat joe already said he wants nothing to do with her and told her it’s over.
and yeah pun beat her ass, but it’s her damn fault that she stayed with him, she could have just left him the first time, but noooo, she stayed with for what and let’s not forget she cheated on him just as much as he did.
even if their glad pun is gone, that’s disrespectful to his legacy and that’s why to this time, joe refused to release anymore of pun’s stuff, not to mention he turned down the big pun reggaeton album, because pun wasn’t no reggaeton person.
And joe can continue to give liza pun’s royalties and blow that money again, that’s her fault, not his fault.