CH continues to explore the Elliot Rodger story because it reveals cracks in our culture that go beyond one man’s murderous rampage. In the days that have followed, the Hivemind has been busy concocting twisted narratives to see which one best tarnishes its free-thinking enemies. I examine their accuracies and fallacies below.
Sexual Entitlement
This theoretical gambit is a favorite of feminist fruitcakes, who blame the killings on Rodger’s thwarted “entitled” belief that he was “owed” sex with hard 10s, a feminist-friendly analysis that provides a handy springboard upon which they can launch into attacks on “pickup artists” who are learning how to become sexier men in order to date higher quality girls.
The fallacy in this feminist hypothesis was astutely noted by Liger (recently upgraded from Lamb) of the Blogosphere, who wrote that sexual and romantic entitlement is a natural condition of humanity, and that without it men would feel they had no right to approach women and initiate a courtship, and the human race would go extinct.
Here are some uncomfortable truths about “sexual entitlement” that feminists dare not contemplate:
- What Elliot Rodger had was sexual desire. Feminists often confuse sexual desire for sexual entitlement (because feminists loathe male desire), but they are two very different things. To conflate them, one would have to assert that Rodger was weird for feeling attracted to a hot young blonde. But men are attracted to beautiful women. That is their nature. Rodger was no different than the vast majority of men in this regard, alpha and beta alike. However, this is the part where Liger goes astray; Elliot didn’t need to be surrounded by pretty Hollywood actresses or steeped in a culture that reveres female beauty to feel urges to want to fuck cute girls based on their looks. The stripling CH did not grow up in Hollywood, and yet I, like almost every boy I knew, valued girls for their looks above all else. No “looks message” is necessary for a boy like Elliot to feel sexual urges for cute chicks, and to feel dejected if those urges aren’t fulfilled.
- Women feel more true entitlement to men’s commitment and money than men feel to women’s sex. Few men will rape in order to feed their sexual entitlement, but many women will hold out until they get promises of commitment from men, and many marriages end with women feeling entitled to half their husbands’ wealth. A more accurate description of the sexual market, then, is that women have commitment and provision entitlement.
- Finally, the scariest realization for feminists: Sexually entitled men are more attractive to women! If you don’t feel entitled to a woman’s love, she won’t think you’re worth her love.
Elliot Rodger’s problem was not sexual entitlement. His problem was sexual desire coupled with crippling introversion that left him no means to satisfy his desire. This created a cognitive disconnect that he filled with his own untested theories for why women weren’t with him when they were with (to him) obviously inferior specimens.
Father Emotional Abandonment
Elliot Rodger’s father, Peter Rodger, from all accounts sounds like he was uninterested in Elliot’s upbringing and preferred his time in the company of naked women taking pictures of their behinds, (which included Elliot’s mother). His father either never loved Elliot, or grew to despise him when he began to sense something was off with the boy. (If the former, it’s likely that Elliot’s biracial appearance contributed to his white father’s disenchantment with him.)
Bolstering the father abandonment theory, a reader sent some juicy insider information which I will post here, taking care to edit it in a circumspect manner so that no identities are accidentally revealed.
Elliot Rodger’s family has been part of a reality show the last seven years often recorded in his house. This is significant because his father on the show has always said he has “a” son, as in only one. In this video from the TV show it shows the father at the family table with the son from the second marriage, but not Elliot.
Elliot is shown in the show, for example when they met Sylvester Stallone (23:50), but Elliot is never acknowledged or speaks. Imagine a father that has a reality show in the house, keeps talking about “his son” and the “three of us” as in “Mother, Father, and son” as opposed to sons.
Elliot mentions the jealousy he has for the other brother. The fact his father says on TV, in the house Elliot lives in, that he has one son, might be enough to push someone over the edge.
In other words, complete family dysfunction.
Elliot doubtlessly sensed his father’s loathing and embarrassment of him, and this family dynamic may have set the ball rolling on Elliot’s eventual psychosocial schism.
Regardless where you fall on the “fathers are crucial/father’s genes are crucial” argument about children’s development, it’s a good bet Elliot lacked a positive parental influence and a loving father’s advice that would have helped him through his struggle into manhood. Nevertheless, the father emotional abandonment theory can’t fully explain Elliot’s eventual psychotic break; something awry already had to be present. Was Elliot’s blood tainted?
Psychopathy/Schizophrenia/Narcissism/Neuroticism/Asperger’s Syndrome
A common theme that often emerges from mass shootings is the revelation that the killer was on some kind of psychotropic or suffered from an anti-social disorder like autism. Then people say “Aha! He was a bad seed, not right in the head”, and feel satisfied that they can ignore any environmental insults that may have triggered the killer’s rage.
News stories present contradicting information on how much, or whether, Elliot was on any happy pills or had been formally diagnosed with any personality disorder. If he was on pills, the causal mechanism then becomes the issue; did Elliot’s psychological disease push him over the edge, or did the drugs he take to ameliorate his disease act as the trigger for violence? Evidence is slim that Elliot had a congenital mental disease, but this photo of him as a child is telling (via reader Tony Nick):
Dem eyes. We’ve seen them before, staring vacantly out of the faces of Dylan Kliebold and Seung-Hui Cho.
Right now it’s a guessing game, but the best guess is that Elliot Rodger had inherited a form of narcissistic and anti-social personality disorder. Some wags may ask your esteemed host, “If chicks dig dark triad narcissists, why didn’t they dig Elliot?” The problem here is that narcissism doesn’t attract girls if it’s hiding behind a shy, retiring, aggrieved personality. You’ve gotta bust a move, and Elliot Rodger clearly never saw a move he wished to bust, unless it involved spilling coffee on a girl who was dating a guy he didn’t like.
A severe organic personality disorder alone won’t typically create a killer, but combine it with some external variable — like incel — and all the bomb needs is something to light the fuse.
Male Feminism/White Knightism
A good argument can be made that Elliot Rodger was, in his writings and beliefs, a male feminist. And that the cancerous, deceitful message of male feminism warped his view of women and contributed to his ignorance about female nature and dating. Rodger believed “supreme gentlemen” should get the girls. He thought merely showing up and plopping down on a park bench would have the girls falling into his lap (and like a peculiar subspecies of MGTOW, his belief system similarly embraced the strange notion that making efforts to get girls was beneath him). His dad, probably equally deluded about women and dating in the year 2014, figured that buying his son a BMW in the last year of his life would help him get dates.
Did male feminism create a monster? It certainly didn’t help Elliot get laid; in fact, it helped repulse girls from him, the external factor which seems to have been the dark driving force throughout his post-pubertal life. Male feminism is not just castrating, it kills. Ask Hugo Schwyzer.
Status Envy
In the Hollywood culture Elliot knew, very high status men, beautiful women and botoxed women, and snotty children of high status men and beautiful and/or botoxed women surrounded him. Most of these people are entitled (far more entitled than Elliot) and bipolar. A fun bunch to throw a party, not so great for raising a biracial, effeminate (though not physically unattractive) male like Elliot who couldn’t look people in the eyes and barely spoke two words to family acquaintances. In this milieu, Elliot would have felt like a tragic outcast, and everyone who knew him would have thought that, too.
Absolute low status does not destroy souls, but relative low status can do the trick. Any other town, Elliot might’ve stood a chance of carving out a social niche for himself. A dad with some awareness and compassion would have taken him out of Hollywood, but then that would have meant no more naked photo shoots and handshakes with Sly Stallone.
The Anti-Boy Therapy Culture
Elliot’s family had him in therapy for years. The psychiatrist he saw was a quack who dated a skank blonde with gargantuan fake tits. Harken back to your childhood. How would you have felt if your family basically pulled a Pontius Pilate and washed their hands of you, sending you to a sleazeball who’s idea of therapy was promptly writing a script for Risperidone, an anti-schizophrenia drug?
This is a tragic example of the anti-boy therapy culture that pervades the US. And by “therapy”, I mean that feminized, womanish therapy that shoves pills down throats to solve the problem of boyness. Maybe Elliot was born sick and needed therapy. But what he didn’t need was a castrate asking him his feelings about his mother while he jerked off under the desk. Elliot needed the therapy of a clear and present father to inform him of the ways of the world. Maybe that wouldn’t have saved him, but it at least would’ve given him a fighting chance.
Pickup Artists and PUAHate
Elliot Rodger didn’t frequent the PUAHate forum to grouse about pickup techniques he tried that didn’t land him a bombshell hottie. He went there to bemoan women and the men those women loved with sympathetic company, and to complain about his looks. While there, (and elsewhere), he picked up (heh) a few bits and pieces of PUA jargon and proceeded to construct an inner fantasy world featuring himself as the put-upon alpha male. But, sadly, to the outside world he was still that shy kid who never talked and looked at his shoes. This was about the time when a complete dissociation between Elliot’s inner world and his outer reality was underway.
The Estrangement Of The Modern Sexual Market
If ever there was a subculture where the modern sexual market was most conspicuously operable, it was the la-la land Elliot grew up in. You can imagine what it was like for a shy kid who had to navigate a dating apocalypse where 90% of the girls were bangable and 99% of them were chasing after the top 1% sons of A-list insiders. This poor lesser beta didn’t stand a chance.
Elliot Rodger’s 132-page autobiography/manifesto (autofesto? manigraphy?) is filled with brutally confessional admissions of loserdom. If he carried even a fraction of that self-pity with him to real life interactions with girls, they would have immediately written him off as a romantic prospect. Girls can smell the stink of beta incel from twelve parsecs.
Failure with women compounds until the beta male succumbs to bitterness, at which point the process of sexual isolation accelerates and solidifies. If an intervention goes missing, the beta can drift into omegaland, and fall victim to his worst compulsions.
Reader Steve Johnson writes,
He was totally isolated because he made bad choices.
He chose world of warcraft over socializing because it’s an effective narcotic.
He chose puahate because it told him what he wanted to hear – that girls choose guys for mysterious reasons that no man can understand – or change about himself.
He specifically avoided socializing in any way that would threaten his narcissistic self-image and motivate him to change in any way – after all if he has to change, then he’s not perfect and we all know that can’t be true, right?
He was omega by choice because it was easier than doing any work.
Martyrdom complex, bad family, crippling shyness, pathological narcissism, biracial neuroticism, unfulfilled sexual desire, a sexual market rapidly separating introverted beta males from the sexual spoils… these things put together don’t guarantee a man will become a killer, but they sure don’t help.
The bit about the reality show.
man on man is the dad a cold hearted bastard. I’d stick the kid on TV. That is your son after all. Case solved.
The guy has a mullet in the photo. A mullet for crying out loud! Of course he’s a douche.
that gay dad is always wearing fanny packs
If I were in a room with that father right now, I would kill the son of a bitch with my bare hands.
Hell, if I even just knew his home address.
What a God-damned monster.
I’m so fucking enraged right now that I gotta go do something to take my mind off of this shit.
Maybe wash the dishes and the laundry.
I almost feel like crying for that poor little boy.
Seriously.
God damn it, I’m getting all choked up.
I got tears streaming down my face right now.
That poor, poor little boy.
Ninth Circle (Treachery)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_(Dante)#Ninth_Circle_.28Treachery.29
The ninth and last circle is ringed by classical and Biblical giants, who perhaps symbolize pride and other spiritual flaws lying behind acts of treachery…
The traitors are distinguished from the “merely” fraudulent in that their acts involve betraying a special relationship of some kind…
In contrast to the popular image of Hell as fiery, the traitors are frozen in a lake of ice known as Cocytus, with each group encased in ice to progressively greater depths.
Round 1 is named Caïna, after Cain, who killed his own brother. Traitors to kindred are here immersed in the ice up to their chins – “the place / where shame can show itself” Mordred, who attacked his uncle/father King Arthur, is one of the traitors here: “him who, at one blow, had chest and shadow / shattered by Arthur’s hand”…
“Ninth Circle (Treachery)”
Heh. I invoked that same Dantean construct here years ago when Ted Kennedy croaked.
I know Shane,I know….
@Zombie
Ya, probably what happened is someone harped on the dad CONSTANTLY to “just put a bun in that oven!! Who cares if you want it or if you’ve thought this through or if you have the time in your life to dedicate to being a good father who doesn’t raise a psychopath! PUT BUNS IN THOSE OVENS GENTLEMEN!!!” and the dipshit listened.
What a retard hey?
Bun in her oven, shit on her chest? What difference, at this point, does it make?
@matthew. i’ve never shit on anyone before, but i would assume that shitting on someone’s chest doesn’t kill 6 innocent people, right? lol
You’re out of your league here, Donny.
His father was a real piece of shit. If you’re going to abandon your kid then at least abandon him for real and refuse any contact. You just don’t denigrate and humiliate your own fucking son like that. He should have been one of Elliot’s target.
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The racial mix in his particular case seems to have produced a strange eye shape which doesn’t seem to have occurred in the sister. It is certainly possible that the odd shape of the eye is an indicator, in this particular case, of other underlying problems, but extensive surveys would need to be conducted to ascertain that.
Nah, I’ve seen that exact look before
It is autism + adhd + meds
100% dead-dildo serious
seems to have produced a strange eye shape
This is one of THE most common surgical operations on the planet – opening the eyes of women (men) who have that little flap of skin that causes this distortion to the shape of the eye. This is why so many Asian women have round eyes today – at least in those areas where this genetic variation is present. However, this kid needed more than just to change the shape of his eyes. His loner personality combined with the way he was raised guaranteed a kid with an inflated ego based on nothing other than wishful thinking on his part.
And the fact that he was raised by a bunch of liberals, meant he got a healthy dose of blaming everyone else, but himself for his failures. This is why so many of these nutcases that kill indiscriminately are liberals – they are indoctrinated to believe everyone is against them, and none of their failures are their own fault. He was all too typical of Liberal Americanus… Of course he blamed women for his failure with women – rather than looking at himself…
The male feminist bit is nuts. He wanted to put women in a concentration camp. That’s no feminist. Feminists have never advocated for the Victorian ideal of chivalry, ie the “gentleman”.
[CH: feminists don't know what the fuck they're advocating for anymore. they live and breathe by the self-contradiction.
ps feminists lie.
pps feminists r stoopid.]
They’d put men in concentration camps, it’s the same final gender solution. Of course a male can’t be a feminist, but feminism is actually just the PMS version of Leftism. And feminists certainly demand chivalrous treatment from men, though they oppose it generally as they do all male characteristics: when men are eliminated chivalry will be too
You look really fat in your avatars, lately.
My avatar looks the same as always to me. Does it now appear differently to others?
Doesn’t that change whether that one would think this even fits into the equation? Of course, it doesn’t.
The Son Becomes The Father | JayMan’s Blog
More Behavioral Genetic Facts | JayMan’s Blog
Follow up post:
Beware Armchair Psychoanalysis | JayMan’s Blog
“The Son Becomes The Father”
and you’re posting that here, in a thread about a son who didn’t at all become like his father LOL
@Martin:
And you didn’t read the post.
Great stuff.
[CH: get outta here you dumbfuck troll.]
Now, scientists warn that a man in his 40s is twice as likely to pass down potentially disease-forming genetic mutations as a man in his 20s – indicating that the biological clock ticks for men, too.
Only twice? It’s several times higher for women in their 40s.
On a side note, Rodger’s father was young when he was born so this doesn’t apply to this case
heheheh
OK. I will just fuck for fun.
HAHA. Twice as likely? So 0.02% not 0.01%. The base mutation rate is low.
Do note the difference between genetic mutations, and being infertile. Eggs run out. Sperm is forever.
Now, scientists warn that a man in his 40s is twice as likely to pass down potentially disease-forming genetic mutations as a man in his 20s – indicating that the biological clock ticks for men, too.
Because of confounding variables these studies should be taken with a grain of salt. Egg quality is usually more important than sperm. Older men are on average married to older women who have older eggs which are more likely to be chromosomal abnormal than the eggs of younger women.
Any study into a causal link between older sperm and mutations needs to control for the wife’s age, i.e., do 45 year old men with 25 year old wives have the same defect frequency as 45 year old men with 35 year old wives?
My bet is the causal link is weak. History records numerous cases of powerful, elderly men having healthy children with fertile young women. On the other hand there should be some link because sperm quality fluctuates with the male body’s health. The effect is probably weaker because men produce sperm throughout their entire life while women do not replenish their egg stores.
Older men are on average married to older women who have older eggs which are more likely to be chromosomal abnormal than the eggs of younger women.
True. I’ve said the same thing, and I’m sure the studies that purport to show that older men have a higher risk of fathering defective kids have statistical flaws simply due to the fact that May-December marriages and kids begotten therefrom are so rare these days, and simply finding a reliable sample is difficult.
For example: consider a study that considers “men in their 40s married to women in their 20s.” How many of the 40s men are married to 29 year old women? Probably much more often than to 21 year old women. That by itself would account for the apparent “twice as likely”: because the women are significantly older!
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/05/28/elliot_rodger_psychiatrist_real_housewives_appearance_by_charles_sophy_was.html
Look at the blowup doll next to his therapists. Who needed the therapy again?
That ‘blowup doll’ could very easily have become Governor of California after Grayout Davis’ ouster.
But then again, so could have the sometime object of The Gooch’s wrath…
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Elliott Rodger’s father Peter Rodger did not acknowledge Elliott as his son! He would say he has “a son” as in one, but he actually had two sons, but Elliott was the one who “didn’t count.” Horrible! Have a mixed race kid, then don’t acknowledge he exists! I know men who became WN’s later in life, but fathered HAP kids earlier in life, and they still acknowledged and supported their mixed race kid. Even Strom Thurmond took care of his mulatto daughter. But this piece of shit Hollyweird director couldn’t live with his mistake. Quote from Heartiste:
Elliot Rodger’s family has been part of a reality show the last seven years often recorded in his house. This is significant because his father on the show has always said he has “a” son, as in only one. In this video from the TV show it shows the father at the family table with the son from the second marriage, but not Elliot.
Elliot is shown in the show, for example when they met Sylvester Stallone (23:50), but Elliot is never acknowledged or speaks. Imagine a father that has a reality show in the house, keeps talking about “his son” and the “three of us” as in “Mother, Father, and son” as opposed to sons.
Elliot mentions the jealousy he has for the other brother. The fact his father says on TV, in the house Elliot lives in, that he has one son, might be enough to push someone over the edge.
In other words, complete family dysfunction.
Absent, uninterested, possibly even hostile dad, the mom is Chinese, so it’s highly likely that she’s controlling, pushy, and nothing is ever good enough, plus, they probably raised the poor sap as a ‘GentlemanNiceGuy’, which only ever leads to pain, small wonder he explodes at some point. And no one ever got him a skateboard or a guitar, so he had to jack off on fantasy characters in a fucking video game. Some people should be prosecuted for having children.
He was a skateboarder for a while but quit because other boys were better at it. According to his manifesto, his mom spoiled him. Anything he wanted, she gave to him or bought for him.
A weak father and a cruel stepmother.
That’s the basis of many a “fairy tale.” Try Hansel and Gretel.
But few pay attention to their wisdom anymore.
The denial on TV would turn almost any boy into a dangerous quantity.
If there is television footage of the dad stating he has a “son” instead of “sons”, it will be buried. That scenario is so painful to imagine, like having the wind knocked out of you.
Fathers: teach your sons to wrestle.
i agree, from an early age gymnastics wrestling and or brazillian ju jitsu. id even consider samuri training. proper movement mechanics and fighting will help any kid deal with jackhole parents
This is beggining to read like an Emily Bronte novel. Wutherthing Heights or Jane Eyre. The crazy resentful bastard lascar cuckoo, or the insane creole wife in the attack. You pick!
The dangers of multiracial marriage and offspring.
So Elliot was playing the part of Heathcliffe or Mrs Rochester? The Lascar/creole outcaste.
Poor bastard didn’t stand a chance.
Blue Pill overdose…
“He chose puahate because it told him what he wanted to hear – that girls choose guys for mysterious reasons that no man can understand – or change about himself.”
Like Tyler says: “That’s why a lot of people hate my shit (his teaching). Because I’m saying to them: “Dude, it IS your fault.””
Roger wasn’t much different from a lot of modern entitled women who feel entitled to the perfect man, and feel frustration that prince charming hasn’t arrived despite them not really bringing much to the table, and refusing to acknowledge that maybe if they took responsibility and cultivated a more positive/upbeat attitude instead of the Jezzie snark, took care of their bodies/looks instead of sabotaging them, tried to get out of negative drama-filled mindsets instead of embracing them (in the latest Jezzie article on Elliot the author freaks out so much about reading PUAHate convos that she busts into the bathroom while her boyfriend is taking a bath and basically accuses him and all men of being like Elliot…like fuck off, I feel bad for her boyfriend lol dude should dump her right there for that overdramatic nonsense…he should be thinking “what happens if we have a son? Is this the kind of mother I’d want for him? One that views him as a probably Elliot instead of loving him?”), and basically learned to handle their shit they might deserve that guy.
Elliot didn’t deserve a hot blonde 10 ’cause his internals were all fucked up and he wasn’t actually bringing value to the table. A 30+ yo snarky fat Jezzie angry feminist doesn’t deserve a 10 because her externals are all fucked up and she isn’t actually bringing value to the table. The difference between the two of them is that everyone tells the Elliots to STFU and call them creepy losers and that it’s their fault not women’s fault (except for PUAHate which is why he hung out there), but everyone tells the women that it’s not their fault and everyone else IS to blame and men are jerks and their fat rolls are gorgeous and perfect and can do no wrong and if you can’t accept me at my worst you don’t deserve me at my best because fuck me trying to actually just be my best all the time and bringing positive value to the table in our relationship, and if anyone DARES tell a woman that maybe she shouldn’t be scarfing down bottles of wine and beer and slices of greasy after-the-bar pizza as she gets blackout drunk and chats up homeless people and brags about not knowing how to cook etc. through her 20s if she wants to find a guy when she’s 30+, it’s off with that guy’s head lol
But evvvvveryone will shit on an Elliot. The double-standard is entertaining but damaging. This whole terrible incident should be a chance for more discussion about men’s issues and how boys are raised and how their needs/problems are ignored so we can help them. I saw a lot of feminists commenting “why don’t the fedora-wearing Men’s Rights monsters try helping boys get help then???” Well, they’ve been trying, but every time they try feminists pull the fire alarms and shut their discussions down.
But let me guess…Not All Women, right? lol
Testify my brother… Great wisdom here. And if Jezzie’s boyfriend was taking a BATH (!!), well that’s really all we need to know. Fits the script though.
no shit! baths are for faggots!!!
i am shamelessly a fan of baths. i’ve probably read 100 books whilst in the bath.
If you haven’t showered in a couple of weeks, baths are simply awesome, way better than a shower.
@yareally hey brother read the e ok. Really good shit. It took me about a day to read it. He has a really organized system. And I guess they offer a training for their system. I am considering joining it.
On the 40yo nurse I sent her the response to get her life back together and we will touch base later text. Nothing from her.
On the 33yo prude no word radio silence since Monday. Hanging tight.
On the 40yo Latina, no word since Tuesday flirty stuff. I am going to text her tonight and strike up sexy flirty stuff again.
Been a really quiet week. Lol
What do you think?
That was e book above lol
@reco
“I am considering joining it.”
Can’t recommend it or recommend against it, I don’t know ANYTHING about them or their site or their training or anything. All I know is the eBook, so do your research before you cough up any money.
“What do you think?”
Enjoy the peace & quiet. :)
@yareally I have never done any PUA type training so I have nothing to compare it to. But it is intense. There is plenty of work to do. I admire their honesty.
Their stuff as I understand it does not necessarily revolve around game like it is talked about in here. It is a system that allows you to naturally express your masculinity to a woman from the start. And this will create an environment of attraction and sucess.
I joined it is only $21 per month and they offer free scholarships. They are also very critical of some ideas in the manosphere and they are not shy. I also believe they have much in common with the manosphere also.
I will know more in a few days.
@Reco
Just be cautious and use your critical thinking. If you feel like you’re having carrots dangled in front of you for more money or if you don’t feel like you’re getting what you expected, don’t be afraid to cancel out of it ASAP.
I can’t say they’re a scam ’cause I’ve done zero research on them whatsoever, but I know their marketing is very angry/hostile and full of 5yo schoolyard insults and claiming everything else is shit while their stuff is the best etc, which always makes me skeptical. Pickup should be fun and you should cultivate a mindset where you enjoy interacting with women VS seeing them as worthless or an enemy, and you should be able and encouraged to learn from multiple sources (like Bruce Lee says, take what works, discard what doesn’t) etc.
I like their eBook though, so just stay self-aware and if you find yourself falling into negative outlooks/mindsets, consider bailing and looking for a more positive training path. Just don’t want to see you get ripped off or end up fostering “us VS them” mindsets…you naturally have a great positive attitude toward women and pickup right now so I would hate to see you lose that is all.
But good luck, let us know what you think!
E.R. didn’t seem to want a lot of help.
Miscegenation is highly undesirable. Young Elliot may wear an England shirt but…
It’s almost like he’s getting dad to notice.
Almost there.
Simon Astaire is a talent agent/”family friend” not a therapist.
CH didn’t say Simon Astaire is a therapist. Charles Sophy is the Lebanese therapist’s name. CH knows who he is talking about, as shown when he mentions the therapist dating a woman with (fake) blond hair and massive fake breasts. That woman is Mary Carey, a part Amerindian porn actress.
The Rodger family lawyer is Jewish, by the way. Scarcely a White involved in this mess at all, except for the father. And still the media manage to turn Elliot Rodger into a “White racist” by conveniently leaving out that he is half-Chinese, and mentioning some posts he made in PUAhate about seeing an ugly Indian and an ugly Black with women. Clever. Just like they turned the Columbine killers into “White racists” (because the day was also Hitler’s birthday) who “targeted Black students” – a blatant lie, as one of the two was a Jew, they had made an “anti-racist” website, and they didn’t specifically target Black students at all.
Oh, and Zimmerman – the New York Times lying for the crucial first ten days, claiming that he was White. He, a part-Black Latino. Then inventing the “White Hispanic” racial category just for him.
And of course, the guy who shot the congresswoman was also presented as “White”. People must not know that he was Jewish.
Thanks for clearing that up. Astaire is Jewish as well.
Scarcely a White involved in this mess at all, except for the father.
Not too many Europeans left in LA these days.
I once ragged a white American from LA after they (I can’t remember the sex!) mentioned being from there. I said, “Whoa, there are white people in LA?” and they got testy, using a wildly inflated definition of “white” to state that they were still a majority from there. At the same time, there was a large flash of embarrassment on their face, as if they knew Inigo Montoya was right there about to say “White? I don’t think that means what you think it means.”
“feminists don’t know what the fuck they’re advocating for anymore. they live and breathe by the self-contradiction.
ps feminists lie.”
And we get to live with their lies. in 2020 there will be 100′s of milllions of excess Chinese men roaming the planet with pent up rage thanks to the Feminist inspired one child policy.
And the west will also be filled with rapey morlock immigrants thanks to feminist policies.
Feminists are creating a very dangerous society for women 20 – 40 years down the track (its already started)
Time to invest in kitty litter stock.
For those that haven’t already seen it.
On why Feminism is Bullshit by Frenchman (English subtitles) Alain Soral.
Sorry but I speak French and have watched this clip and it is not as you say. First it is a show about the stepmother (the one with the nice ass) and not about the father. They show a scene with her son and the father at the dinner table because that is normal and that was their family at the time. The father never says he has “one” son and if he did this would be immediately contradicted by the fact that in each show he is shown with Elliot at the opening for Hunger Games. in fact what is weird is his daughter never appears on the show. I’m not saying he was a great father by any means just that your “source” is full of shit.
Plus you don’t know if Elliot wanted to be on the show or not, if he was very shy it’s quite possible he could have asked to be left out.
He doesn’t mention it in his manifesto even though he complains about so many other things.
There was no option for Elliot to be part of the show. It was a show about Soumaya and she has no relation to him. He only appeared in the opening scene because they were building up his father’s Hollywood cred and it just so happened that in such an important moment of his life, Peter included his son Elliot. That scene was not filmed for the show but was just footage of the event.
Even if he didn’t want to be on the show, that is not a reason for the father to lie about how many sons he has.
Quite clearly the father son relationship was a mess.
What the fuck is your point?
That factual inaccuracies in reporting leave you wide open to criticism and dismissal. Relax.
Calm down dear. Have some ziprasidone.
That is one episode. There are other episodes.
I speak French also. I listened closely to the clip and I agree with Torn and Frayed. Soumaya, the Moroccan second wife, is the subject of the clip (hey, it’s Real Housewives, not Real Husbands) and she’s just as shallow and narcissistic as you would expect. Peter Rodger never actually specifies that he has only one son. Soumaya refers to “nous trois” (the three of us) but that appears to be because Peter, Soumaya, and Jazz (a ridiculous name, but also about what you’d expect) are living in the house being filmed, while Elliott is likely living with his sister and their Chinese birth mother at their house in Woodland Hills.
Yes, fairy tales abound with wicked step-parents. They didn’t pull that out of thin air. Today’s “blended families” blend some kids right out of the picture.
Stipulated… Nonetheless, any husband that would feed his wife’s narcissistic hamster ego by agreeing to have the family appear on Real Housewives has his balls stuffed so far up his ass its hopeless…
Good call. Torn and frayed. I also thought CH and his source were reaching. I am appalled at this whole rushing to judge Elliot’s father. He has a new family. It’s only natural for there to be tension/separation with the existing family. You think Elliot didn’t resent his father for leaving his mum? I don’t know if Elliot’s Dad was a bad father, but I do know we should not give him bad name just to hang him.
CH is also speculating about Elliot’s “vacant stare”. I’ve taken many pictures where my eyes looked like that.
Top analysis. Elliot’s death will be spun in many ways by irresponsible journalists and brain dead feminists in order to further their agenda. But you’ve covered it well.
Well, with the puppet-in-command now having given the army the right to declare local martial law as they deem necessary, and with even the agricultural department (effing agricultural department) ordering submachine guns – which would never happen in any other Western country – it’s pretty obvious they are preparing for mass demonstrations à la Greece in case of a dollar collapse. Like when China stops lending money, or starts selling off its dollar reserves, the world’s largest. In that event, people like CH do run the risk of being arrested. At least they would definitely be kept under watch.
It’s weird. Those empty but ready FEMA camps here and there, guarded by Blackwater … the barbed wire at the top of the fences is leaning inward.
My reply was meant for Chris, right below here. Ah well, you get what you pay for.
It’s a lack of sensory control.
I remember when Deus Ex came out in 1999 and seemed farfetched. :-(
You should probably familiarize yourself with how a treasury auction works.
“You should probably familiarize yourself with how a treasury auction works.”
Irrelevant comment with no actual argument. Nice try.
Good post CH. So good you may have already punched yourself a ticket to Siberia/Alaska, or wherever the hell they send those guilty of thoughtcrime nowadays.
America seems so fucked up socially
couldnt imagine anything like this kinda stuff ever happening here in ireland
which is kinda strange considering that we have took on nearly your whole culture (although i still think patriarchy still reigns here to an extent)
Funny how you keep repeating that phrase or variations thereof. “America seems so fucked up”. Always keeping the veneer of “I’m on your side, just befuddled by it all”. But that anti-American hatred has nothing to do with deploring America for being too leftist. It is about hating the evil “capitalist, racist, Bible-thumping, gun-obsessed” America, as seen on your teevee and heard in the public school’s classrooms. Feels good when you can work it in, and hopefully get some Americans to agree, doesn’t it? They think you are only talking about issues like this one, in which they criticize the leftist aspects. But you get your kicks from the insult you pack in there.
Tyrone Thwack said that : The 2006 Irish census recorded 40,525 people of Black African ethnicity and 3,793 people of any other Black background resident in the Republic of Ireland out of a total population of 4,172,013, meaning that 1.06 per cent of the population self-identified as Black.[
Don’t worry, it’s coming. Feminists can’t stand to see any countries outside their influence.
I think that’s a very good and fair assessment of the facts.
I can imagine if I had grown up in Hollywood; how much worse it would have been for me. I had a lot of that kid’s problems, and I’m still dealing with some of them to this day. Everything I ever dealt with would have been compounded enormously by growing up among all those prettiest of the pretty girls trying to figure out which dicks to suck to hit the validation lottery and become big stars. Why is my dick being ignored? I’m doing everything that other guy driving a Bimmer is doing!
I’ve just had the thought that game is like an enormous sledgehammer. It can do amazingly powerful things, but only if you’re strong enough to swing it that hard. Most guys are not that strong. Most guys aren’t strong enough to lift it off the ground at all. I guess that’s the negative side of showing people that there’s a honking big hammer right here that works to do the job you want done. If a guy can’t lift it at all, he’s worse for knowing the hammer is there. That’s what PUAHate is all about.
Me, I just acknowledge I’m still too much of a pussy, and I’m determined to lift that goddamn thing and swing it one of these days. Even just rocking it far enough to see a good crack of daylight under one side of it is all the proof I need that the hammer works. I only have to become strong enough to lift it. Like a real life big fucking sledgehammer I own, I will probably never be strong enough to put a full body swing behind it without blowing my back out, but I can still use it to knock things around with smaller and more measured strokes.
Game: turning creepy little psychos into guys who have hope; but only if they blame themselves for being too weak instead of blaming the hammer for being too heavy.
nominating this for best comment.
As it happens, today was a most excellent day. That hammer works as advertised, but sometimes you don’t see the results right away, and you don’t even realize what you did with it.
I’ve been down on myself a lot lately for being that guy who only got one number in a year of game. I was really disappointed in how that turned out, but I got over the rejection, and I moved on. I calmly withdrew my validation from the girl. I continued talking to her, because I just like her, but I friend zoned her.
I ran into her tonight, and we had a long talk. She is concerned about being my mistress, because she is only going to be young and pretty so long, and I will eventually get bored with my pet and find a new one.
Gulp! You’ve been thinking about being my mistress?!
I don’t know my own strength, gentlemen. When I get a number, I get a fucking number.
This is a fair deal she’s offering between the lines. She doesn’t want to give up her value as a pretty 22 year old with a notch count of 1 to just any slack jawed loser looking to get some pussy and next her. She wants to cash in her value, but she isn’t looking for payment in coin.
This isn’t pickup, this is a lot deeper than that.
It suits me. I suck at being shallow and casual. I’m a very serious guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lpB1CFIPsQ
that’s the hammer coming down.
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And just to be clear, at around 23:10 in the video she introduces herself, says she has lived 12 year in LA and says that “I’m married to Peter and we have a child together named Jazz, who is six year old”. Just after that they show a scene from the Hunger Games opening and you hear in English Peter introducing someone to his wife and then he puts his arm around his son Elliot and is about to introduce him as well but the scene is cut. So remember, this is a show for a French audience about the step mother. They show Peter just to build up her Hollywood cred. Yet he manages to get his son in the scene. In NO way was he dissing Elliot in all this.
Men should not go around back stabbing other men without reason.
“Elliot is shown in the show, for example when they met Sylvester Stallone (23:50), but Elliot is never acknowledged or speaks. Imagine a father that has a reality show in the house, keeps talking about “his son” and the “three of us” as in “Mother, Father, and son” as opposed to sons.”
Heartbreaking. And where is his mother in all this? I’m sure most of you don’t agree but I think the mother-son relationship is very important too.
His relationship with his mother was poor, but this is understandable:
His deadbeat mother was a mudshark that had been riding the cock carousel since age 14, “dated” (and by that I mean been pumped and dumped by) convicted felons, and even worked at a prison to fulfill and stimulate her twisted and destructive tingles for the worst men society has to offer. All the while shitposting so much on a game blog, that the proprietor has to call her out on her NAWALT shit not just on the comments section but on the main posts too.
Oh no wait, that’s you. Kill yourself.
Damn, you almost make me feel sorry for the guy.
Its possible that Elliot’s father is in fact NOT his biological father.
Perhaps the mom was a “white man’s whore” type of Asian woman – they are very common – kinda like Rupert Murdoch;s ex – cheating with Tony Blair.
Maybe the father took on Elliot knowing full well that he was not his biological son, but the son of some other English idiot the mom fucked.
This may explain the coolness of both parents ……. he was an outcaste in his own home.
good point al.
Son was an embarrassment to the father for various reasons, not the least of which because of afore-mentioned miscegenation resentment. Father has him eliminated in spectacular grand guignol fashion to both retire a busted investment and to push forward his people’s* agenda of further gun control and the demonization of Caucasian males. Father rides a wave of indignation to fame and profit.
*Hint: he’s not “white”
Wikipedia says he is “of British descent”, but he sure doesn’t look British. That is NOT just British blood in that guy. I thought he was Hungarian when I first saw his picture. But we are the side that deals with facts, and we can’t know in his case.
“Absolute low status does not destroy souls, but relative low status can do the trick. Any other town, Elliot might’ve stood a chance of carving out a social niche for himself.”
This is what I’ve been saying. Santa Barbara? As an incel? Get the fuck out of here. Being around loads of hot chicks as a clueless low beta/omega is hell squared. ESPECIALLY if you’re also surrounded by the type of man that can get these kind of chicks. (good looking, outgoing surfer dudes) He never felt so bad about being in Britain. I wonder why.
Because Rodger was 5 when he moved to Cali.
He talks about a happy childhood in the US. He associates his life going to shit with puberty, not US culture, although he does wonder whether his life might have been different had his family not moved.
Well I believe that a place that is less shallow, has less attractive women and were he doesn’t have to compete with outgoing surferboys with good physiques and lots of money, would’ve been a milder environment for him.
Here’s one other possible explanation for the soured father-son relationship: The stepmom was quite the cunt to Elliot, its very likely she whispered wicked words to his father post-coitus to drive the wedge between them. I’ve seen this many times, stepmothers often feel an instinctual revulsion and hatred towards any children a man has from other women.
I agree but in this day and age the left/feminists will never let a woman be made accountable for anything bad.
Making women unaccountable is one of the most important things to feminists, they will always twist and spin things until they find a way to blame men for the bad behavior of women.
Exactly.
Essentially the socio-manifestation, acceptance and proliferation of the female psyche.
A cultural rationalization hamster.
Here is an article entitled “Councils pay for disabled to visit prostitutes and lap-dancing clubs from £520m taxpayer fund” Link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1303273/Councils-pay-disabled-visit-prostitutes-lap-dancing-clubs.html#ixzz0wmmJmzJT
Here are the first two paragraphs:
“A ‘man of 21 with learning disabilities has been granted taxpayers’ money to fly to Amsterdam and have sex with a prostitute.
“His social worker says sex is a ‘human right’ for the unnamed individual – described as a frustrated virgin.”
It seems outrageous to subsidize the sex lives of loser omega males with taxpayer money, but imagine if the US public benefits system paid for people like Elliot Rodger to get laid. No doubt it could have saved lives.
Forget the State. With the suitcase loads of money his parents spent on him in psych and retail therapy, a prostitute seems like a reasonable investment. Paid for by dad, presumably, but maybe by mom, who seems pretty laidback.
Here’s the thing, though: as much as Rodger desired sex, given his social phobias and whatever else was broken in his brain, could he have handled being in bed with an actual naked woman ready and inviting him for sex? And if couldn’t handle himself in the moment when his fantasy obsession became real, then what? Maybe it would have worked, but maybe it would have triggered him with an even bigger cosmic injustice. Hard to say because Rodger wasn’t just incel; he was crazy, too.
I would have hired a lady to be his girlfriend, if she understood that she might have to marry him to keep getting paid, and that we would have her neutralized if she ever spoke about it.
Who knows. Maybe the memory of just one successful experience with an (attractive) girl would have given him enough hope to hang onto and not go homicidal.
I remember that story. It’s absolutely sick. The parasite who takes taxpayers’ money should be dealt with, along with the socialist filth who make sure he get it. All of them are minuses, parasites feeding off a de facto occupied British people.
As for Elliot Rodger, though. He could easily have gotten a hooker himself. He burned 700 dollars on a lottery, because he believed it was his destiny to win, since he was he and better than anybody else. You can get half an hour with a hooker from Craigslist for, what, 150 bucks. Seems a lot better than murdering people because he was a virgin. But despite being so desperate for sex he wouldn’t do even that, because he would have failed at talking to a hooker too. He obviously couldn’t talk to anyone. He failed at life and didn’t even try to improve. Too bad he didn’t just kill himself.
there are cuties for 80 on Backpage; in fact, my hooker girlfriend got angry at me the other day because she felt cheated when she heard I’m willing to pay others as much as $140 for an hour.
Well there you go, #YesAllWomen. Sex IS a human right, straight from the mouth of your fellow leftoid.
“A ‘man of 21 with learning disabilities has been granted taxpayers’ money to fly to Amsterdam and have sex with a prostitute.”
Hee hee. Why does this make me think of the wheel chair guy in Little Britain?
@common sense … The difference here is persons with disabilities are unlikely to cause harm to anyone but themselves if they attempt to go on a similar killing spree. I’m not so sure game would have helped a guy this fucked up. It’s like Ted Bundy blaming his killing spree on porn and other shit. It’s an interesting argument but you’re trying to offer a rational solution to am irrational person. People from broken homes don’t all go postal some become president .
Simple explanation. Elliot Roger was a Morlock. Hand raised, curated and delivered by the Frankfurt School.
And there are 100 million more in the pipeline.
most stupid thing about this is that he probably could have got laid easily with hot chicks if he didnt have such anti game traits…if he was half normal he had a golden ticket to get laid being a directors son and all..all he had to know was how to play that card properly
Yeah with his dad..this easily..or even easier
http://www.movieweb.com/tv/TEqSRiLHYHXDvt/phil-helps-luke-get-a-date
Good looking? Check.
Nice car? Check.
Rich parents? Check.
I mean, this guy could have a been chick magnet. He could have gotten laid easily, he just had to get out of his own way. Even without game, he could have easily pulled a couple 8s (which anywhere outside of UCSB would be 10s).
Imagine what some guy could have done to him. He would have RULED that campus. One-girlfriend-for-every-day-of-the-week style.
Man, it makes me sad to see someone with that much potential take the coward’s way out.
(Reposting my latest stripclub FR in newest post as I’m not sure how far back YaReally checks):
Thanks dude – notes taken (seriously – I’m saving these comments and reviewing before I head to the club).
Very interesting visit last night to a strip club. Basically was approached by two girls – one smoking hot (top 3 of 30-40 women in the club) and the other less so (by stripper standards). Talked for an hour, no dances. Less hot one was into me and was starting to get properly attracted (won’t waste time on the details but I’m sure of the IOIs) while the hotter one stayed in stripper mode throughout and kept trying for a dance or tip till the very end (barring one brief moment where a random cold read of mine hit home, but I couldn’t keep that door open). Annoying THIRD time now I’m getting cockblocked by the double-stripper dynamic.
Anyway, the point I wanted to mention is that the hotter one was actually gaming me – as in, SHE actually negged ME. I didn’t even realize that’s what she’d done until after I left the club. It’s almost as if she saw I wasn’t responding to her as expected and wanted to shake me up a bit to see if she could get a reaction to pull me into her frame or where I’d qualify myself to her. I genuinely felt a bit mentally tired when I left – it was a bruising frame battle, but I’d call it a draw – I didn’t break through to her, but I didn’t fall into her frame either.
Stuff like telling me with a slightly superior smile:
1. “You look young..like 24/25″ (I am mid 30s and often pass for late 20s, but no way look 24) – at the same time the stripper who *liked* me was saying “You look younger but I think early 30s because of the way you talk and carry yourself and judge people”
2. “I think you are nervous about being with a naked girl and that’s why you don’t want a dance” (also at this point – put her hand on my chest and told her friend “His heart is beating so fast..like a rabbit” (it wasn’t))
Me (smirking): “And here I thought you were a good judge of character” followed by a shrug when she held her frame
3. Climbed right on top of me and put her face an inch from me and said something about “What do you want to do” (more in a slightly mocking tone than a seductive one)
Me (neutral tone): “Err..why are you chewing gum? It’s really distracting”
Second stripper (to the side): “Don’t tell anyone she’s doing it – it’s against the rules”
4. Several sexual stuff trying to shock me etc
(All the while the other stripper went to go on stage and came running back to us, and saying (sincerely) stuff like “You know I really like talking to you..you’re very interesting..”)
I still can’t get over it – *she* negged *me* – what did she think I’d do? Start proclaiming my lack of nervousness or justifying my age?
YaReally can disagree with me, but I’m pretty sure she was *shit testing* you; not negging. I’m not going to argue whether your IOIs were genuine or not (I wasn’t there), but this girl is trying to shake you up and see if you can hold your ground. She’s a master of social interaction and she can sense that you’re uncomfortable (her “his heart is beating so fast” was wicked apt), so she’s deciding which category to place you in by gauging your reaction to her.
You can argue that this is an indicator that shes interested (and is a fair argument), but a ‘neg’ is employed by a man when he’s def interested and is trying to open an opportunity for tingles; a shit test is a *test*, the failure of which can get you ejected from the possibility of ever fucking her.
The less hot one’s IOI’s were real, I’m sure of that. But it was the hotter one gaming me (and she definitely was not giving IOIs).
But I see your point – it could be better described as a shit test than a neg. Still, very interesting to be so explicitly gamed.
It was a new situation so I was winging it for sure but I don’t think my heart was pumping fast – it was a great line from her though.
@Culum
She just thought you’d cave. That was one of her moves, I’m sure she uses it on any guy who tries to pretend he’s cool. Did she sense some incongruencies in you? Maybe, maybe not, it’s definitely a go-to line of hers to use it.
And ya, she thought you’d qualify yourself. Doesn’t mean she’d fuck you or you built attraction at all, or that she views you as anything other than a waste of her time, but she probably lol’ed inside that you weren’t falling for her usual gambits.
The less hot one would potentially bone you but you’re on your own for how to get it to happen lol You’d have to meet up with her outside of work and that’s a huuuuuge step for a stripper to take because that’s combining her “real life” with her “stripper life”. If you like, ran into her at a bar somewhere tho, she’d probably bang ya.
I’d guess the first step would be getting her number somehow, then somehow getting her to actually meet up and not flake after she’s out of state…so that’s not that great. Once you leave and she has a shift or two now you’re back in customer mode to her. Esp if she dances for some creepy guys after who turn her off men and kill her state. I lost my one stripper bang attempt (plans for her, her other stripper friend and my buddy and I to all hang in their hotel room and order a pizza) because some dude creeped her the fuck out in the VIP room demanding she fuck him ’cause he spend a bunch of $ and he got aggressive and they threw him out etc. but that shut her down hardcore like “fuck all men I just want to get home and cry to my girlfriend and shower off the ickiness of the night” and they had to storm out (the other one gave us a quick goodbye and was bummed we couldn’t hang but her friend was devestated and on the verge of tears).
So probably the best bet would be to aim for that night, with a “what time are you off shift? Let’s grab some food after” ’cause strippers don’t eat much on shift (no one’s going up on stage getting naked after scarfing down a steak dinner, she’s probably had a salad at lunch and a couple little snacks thru the night) and joke around and build rapport/comfort in a cozy late night diner then take her home from there. Then she doesn’t have much time to fall out of state and strippers can generally leave whenever they want to so if it’s like a Tuesday night and the crowd has died down and there’s like 3 dudes left and 6 strippers she might be like “fuck it let’s get outta’ here” before her shift is done. And I wouldn’t do any kino or anything in the stripclub, stick to laser eye-contact and sexual rapport to build the attraction ’cause if you get too blatant then her boss is gonna’ think she’s prostituting herself to customers and other customers are gonna think they can cop a feel etc…just chill back and be cool and start the kino etc. when you get her outside and in the diner (have a place in mind beforehand, have an action plan of course, figure out what food places are nearby, she won’t care what the food is as long as its edible ’cause she’s starvin).
You might be able to skip the diner to go to your place with a “let’s hit my place and order pizza” but if you skip the diner then her place (“let’s hit your place and order pizza”) is probably better ’cause she’d be more comfortable at home, but either way I think a diner would be a smoother transition…take care of her food needs in a little diner while you build more rapport/comfort and then go to your place. Like, there’s probably no rush, enjoy the time together (like Julien from RSD says enjoy the whole movie don’t just fast-forward to the end), ’cause she’s gonna be a night owl who’s used to being up till 6am anyway.
That’s how I’d run it if I was in your position but I am definitely just going with logic here. I haven’t pulled/banged a stripper yet, I’ve just spent a lot of time in stripclubs over the years and observed the dynamics and am combining that with normal pickup experience.
I’d guess the first step would be getting her number somehow, then somehow getting her to actually meet up and not flake after she’s out of state…so that’s not that great. Once you leave and she has a shift or two now you’re back in customer mode to her. Esp if she dances for some creepy guys after who turn her off men and kill her state. I lost my one stripper bang attempt (plans for her, her other stripper friend and my buddy and I to all hang in their hotel room and order a pizza) because some dude creeped her the fuck out in the VIP room demanding she fuck him ’cause he spend a bunch of $ and he got aggressive and they threw him out etc. but that shut her down hardcore like “fuck all men I just want to get home and cry to my girlfriend and shower off the ickiness of the night” and they had to storm out (the other one gave us a quick goodbye and was bummed we couldn’t hang but her friend was devestated and on the verge of tears).”””””””””””””””””
that shit wasen’t real staged she made that much loot and wanted to go spend it and get pounded
that he wanted to fuck big deal to her she ain’t that offended lol
Strippers seem to work to a script. Some examples…
Stripper: “This is a strip club and yet you’re not having any dances. Why did you come in here?”
ME: LOL… Sometimes I even leave shoe stores without buying anything.
Thanks YaReally – I have read a bunch of “how to game strippers” and stripper FRs and it roughly boils down to what you said (with various tweaks depending on personal style).
The keys seem to be:
-Get her number discreetly (memorize and put in your phone or she can write on a napkin in the toilet and give to you)
-Push for a meetup *that night* or ASAP as strippers are even flakier than normal girls
-Once you meet up, as long as you come across congruently as the same guy she met in the club, you can have a quick drink or two and escalate virtually immediately to sex and there will be no LMR.
-Lots of warnings about not actually dating strippers as they tend to be batshit crazy (I personally think this varies club to club – the one particular club I like definitely has a higher proportion of saner girls with day jobs and stuff plus a much less pressured vibe to buy dances – both those things have got to be explicit club policy)
PS – Lol@Bulzac – I might steal that. My standard response to that is “I just came in for a drink and to watch some dances” but yours is better.
I unfortunately need to tone down the sarging and get back to heavy work for a few weeks but I’ll be back with more stories from the stripper trenches in a while..
I replied to YaReally in detail but not sure if it ate my longer comment or it’s in moderation.
Basically just saying that all the stripper guides I’ve read online roughly agree with your approach and focus on meeting ASAP/that night as strippers are v flaky, but once you meet, you shouldn’t have LMR etc.
(and lolling at Bulzac – I’m stealing that line..)
I had the new chick at the BK try this (shit-test / banter) on me when I stopped for coffee. It’s not uncommon. Since I’m good at home, I’m trying to decide whether her status at the BK is enough to bet me a free coffee occasionally, or if I’ll get better service concentrating on the established relationships with other staff.
There’s also the worry she might spit in my coffee if I play it wrong.
A guy can learn so much game from just watching the way strippers operate. They really do have some of the tightest game out there. Building rapport, sexualising the conversation, negging, keno, rapid escalation, frame control and closing, are all just another night at the office for them.
While this makes them hard to game, it is by no means impossible. After all they are still females with female hind-brains. Game principles apply to them just as much as they apply to all females.
I’ve managed to bang 4 strippers (so far) but have had many many near misses. Here’s how the last one went…
I rolled in like I’d just come from a party dressed in a sharp suit. Swatting away the advances of the stripper that were hanging around the front door, I headed straight to the bar. After high fiving the guys behind the bar, who I made friends with on a previous visit, I engage them in some Manley conversation.
(Guys who work in strip/lap-dancing clubs are super open to red pill convos because they see girls tooling guys every few minutes. These guys seem almost relieved when a guy comes in and turns the tables on these crazy bitches. In fact the bar-guys in one club, have even stopped charging me for drinks, just because they find it so entertaining, I always make sure I tip them regardless)
When the girls noticed us having fun, they started coming over and trying to get involved. I just ignored their initial attempts and just carried on talking as though we haven’t noticed them. One chick got really frustrated as she stood there in her sexiest get-up, because I hadn’t even bothered to turn around to look at her. So she grabs my arm and says “hay, what you guys talking about”. I guess she thought,… if only I can get this guy to turn around and see how hot I am, he will be putty in my hands, like all the other schlebs. But I just half turned to her and said… “run along cup cake this is man talk” and continue with my convo. Guys behind the bar stared laughing as she went off in a huff.
As the night went on, the word spread that the guy at the bar, with his back to the stage is not playing ball. It seemed to became a challenge among the girls to see which of them can break me down. One of the hottest girls slid up beside me and said “hey, why don’t you by me a drink” to which I replied… ” Look. I only buy drinks for two sorts of girls. They either have to be hot or funny… Now, do you know any jokes?” This got another laugh from the guys behind the bar and a couple of chicks near by.
Later I did allow myself to get into a conversation with one of the less pushy chicks, who had realised and excepted that there is no point asking me to pay for dances. This chick was a hard 8 of anyone’s money, with an amazing ass. After a few minutes chatting, I started to build some genuine attraction, using lots of deep eye contact and funny push pull negs (no keno and no looking at her body)
(As these girls are so used to guys making fools of themselves over them, they require far more push than pull. But if you can rise above the AFCs, it’s even more effective than in a normal club. I would sum up strip club game as push-push-push-pull-push.)
After about 15 minutes of parrying her increasingly lame shit tests, she seemed to forget that she is there to make money and starts bombarding me with what seemed to be genuine IOIs. . Despite this, I maintain my devil may care frame and continued to build genuine sexual tension until it became almost unbearable for her.
Suddenly she started to hug me. My response was to not respond. So I stood tree-like, with my arms at my side and my head tilted up and looking slightly away, as she flung her arms around me and starts kissing my neck. Then I put both by hands on her shoulders and pushed her slightly away while looking deep into her eyes and said… “Go make some money” as I spun her around and slapped her ass to encourage her back to get back work. Then I said bye to the guys behind the bar and split.. The expression on her face was one of shock and disappointment.
About 3 or for days later I visit that club again. But this time I turn up late. About an hour before it closes. The same chick was there and she made no attempt to hide how pleased she was to see me. After some chit chat I said; “You now it’s strange, but I had two dreams about you the other night”… “It’s crazy because I never dream about girls”. HER; “really what kind of dreams were they?”
ME; “Well, in the first dream, we were walking along a sandy palm lined beach. We could feel the wet sand between our toes, the waves splashing salty foam onto our naked legs and a warm breeze caressing our tanned faces. I remember I was holding a bottle of chianti and you were asking me when would I open it?”. HER; “Wow sounds nice. What about the second dream?” I pull her in close and whisper in her ear… In the second dream, we were in the toilets of my local Starbucks. You where bent over the toilet while I was fucking you in ass. I was drinking a cappuccino and you were singing love songs to me. The funny thing is, I don’t even like cappuccino? I only drink esspessos. What do you think it all means?” (I like the justo position of these to story’s. As the first appeals to her frontal brain and the second to her hind brain.) I asked her which dream she liked the best and she whispered in my ear… “The second one”. Game on.
After some more banter and eye fucking, I let her know that I’m heading to a casino around the corner, to meet a friend for drinks and a bite. I say she’s welcome to come but only if she brings a friend and promises to behave. She said ok but we would have to meet around the corner as it is forbidden for strippers to see customers outside.
She was good to her word and we met up as planed. She dragged her flats mate along, another stripper, who was actually quite entertaining. After a few drinks I sent them both home but not before swapping numbers. I ended up banging her 2 days later and off and on for the next three months.
Strip clubs are a fun place to practice your game but if you want to bang a stripper you need to have super disciplined frame control.
(On the subject of dances, my policy is not to have any, although I have been known to break this rule but only so I can tell a girl how badly she dances. ME half way through a dance…. “No no no… Your doing it all wrong… Who thought you this?.. Geez no wonder your not making any money… Look, sit down and I’ll show you where your going wrong” Back at the bar, after the dance, I like to joke out loud.. “Wow that was the worst dance ever… If I owned this club I would sack you.” Then messing up her hair like she’s just a little girl… ” Only joking… Is never sack you…. I probably keep you around to show the other girls how Not to do it”.)
Push-Push-Push-Pull-Push.
Very interesting Balzac – that reads a lot like the approach recommended in Christian McQueen’s Strip club Bible ebook (even if you’ve not read it, I suppose it makes sense that anyone who figures out how to bang strippers effectively is going to converge on similar principles)
I’ve been a bit wary of going too much to the same club (even though I like it) because I don’t want to get the reputation of being “that cheap guy” known to all the women – basically if I go there a lot, all the girls will soon recognize me as the guy who never buys dances and may stop approaching me (even if they think I’m a cool guy) – but I’m wondering if there’s some flaw in my thinking..?
As for the not buying dances thing – I don’t think there’s any need to be too rigid about it. It’s like not buying drinks for girls in normal nightclubs when you’re a complete newbie. It’s a good thing to keep in mind to avoid being taken advantage of for free drinks, but as you get better at game you learn when you can buy drinks and how to do it without coming across as a chump (and sometimes it is useful for tactical reasons to buy her a drink and keep her with you instead of going to her friends).
Buying dances is similar I think. I’m still in early stages of strip club game and it is easier to just not buy dances as a rigid rule but as I get better I’ll be able to get away with it (or even use it to advantage like you describe). In fact the closest I’ve come to number closing a stripper was actually one of my first visits when I got a single dance just to see what it was like – and the IOIs from that girl were totally genuine even after the dance..
PS – Why did you risk the delay of banging her 2 days later? Why not just take her home that same night she came to meet you after the club?
Never Mind the Balzac””””””
epic comment
..he’s stoned out of his mind…they created the monster..
Funny that the public would take the fact that Rodger was on medication and use that as an excuse to not anaylze his environment when at the same time the same public is prescribed record levels of drugs, particularly for depression.
But that is definitely a factor in keeping the number of mass murders steady over the years. Along with causing many other problems. But it is a good way of pacifying a people, so the politicians won’t do anything about it, ever. If they had their way they’d see everyone on medication or narcotics. Such a people is no longer a people but a population only, and one that will never rebel, because then the drug supply would be disrupted.
It should be noted though that the number of mass killings is actually fairly low among 300 million people, which you wouldn’t believe from the media’s treatment of the matter. (Compare to the far higher murder rates in much of South America, Africa or central Asia, which you will never hear about.) And many, many times more murders are committed by the 1.4 million gang members, who commit almost all gun crimes. Something the media don’t mention. Instead they take someone like Elliot Rodger and make him the poster child for killings, and make the public think he is White.
On top of whatever psych drugs he was on from childhood, don’t forget that his mom was on the Pill and a flu/other medication when he was conceived. His DNA might have been jacked up from moment 1.
This “therapist”, much like Adam Lanza’s, seems like a possible handler for a mind control program. Both of these violent sprees seem weird and don’t really fit the narrative from the mainstream news. Were vulnerable boys abused to the point of splintering into multiple personalities that could carry out evil missions for their overlords’ objectives such as gun control?
Conspiracy theories with no proof to support them are of no use, and only provide the leftists with something to quote to attack the manosphere.
markgm28
good point !
“If chicks dig dark triad narcissists, why didn’t they dig Elliot?” The problem here is that narcissism doesn’t attract girls if it’s hiding behind a shy, retiring, aggrieved personality. You’ve gotta bust a move, and Elliot Rodger clearly never saw a move he wished to bust, unless it involved spilling coffee on a girl who was dating a guy he didn’t like<<<<<
Krauser has a video on his blog on sexual market value for men. One of his points is that you can have all types of value and get nowhere if you don't sell it.
..also E.R. didn’t know what the fuck an IOI was..probably had a few of those from time to time he didn’t capitalize on…
Fuck you you Jew Fag. You can suck my cock you fucking gay little fag
lol do you do parties?
Very good piece by CH, better than anything you see from the lying media.
One thing though: he wasn’t a feminist, but he sure was a leftist. The Return of Kings piece gets that wrong. The things they list are leftist characteristics, like the “gimme gimme” attitude with no work involved. Feminists, being leftists, share this attitude, but Rodger’s wish to remove women from society means he wasn’t a feminist. But definitely leftist.
And everything we see about that family shows that it was leftist. The father’s involvement with the Hunger Games movies for example, propaganda movies where capitalists are evil, blond killers are evil and willing participants in the game because they love to murder, while the Blacks both in and outside the game are good and allies. The father first has children with a Chinese woman, then an Arab woman. The father selling nude photography. The entire Hollywood atmosphere. Of course getting a Lebanese celebrity therapist for the son. Etc.
Wanting to remove women from society does not disqualify one from being a feminist. That is the nature of the Left; they harm the very people they claim to support. Note how Communists have killed millions of working class people.
Stalin was a communist. His main job was to kill off as many sincere communists as he could. Leaving genocidal maniacs like Lazar Kaganovich to pick up the loot.
+1 CH
In the news today…
“THE parents of Santa Barbara gunman Elliot Rodger are so devastated by the six lives taken by their son that they have started stuttering, a family friend has revealed.
Simon Astaire told US ABC News that he had known Rodger since he was a boy and has been in contact with his parents, Chin and Peter Rodger, since last week’s shooting.
He said they are mourning the six innocent lives taken by Rodger more so than their son’s death.”
Now I could understand the family of a mass murderer distancing themselves from the perpetrator (even if just to the media), but still morn him behind closed doors. But I seriously doubt this is the case here. All the evidence points to a “father” neglecting his duty.
Something else I found interesting was the 3 men he stabbed were also Asian…
My son is only 8, but that doesn’t stop me instilling in him a sense of his own value, building his confidence, and generally preparing him for a red pill existence.
They’re stuttering because they don’t know which CYA lie to tell first.
What I find interesting is that Elliot is the product of a white man-asian woman pairing. Anecdotal and personal experience has been that sons of such unions seem to have more social and personal “issues” than most. The sons of asian man-white woman pairings seem to do much better socially – particularly when their asian fathers are high value and dominant enough to maintain the loyalty of their attractive white mothers.
Dem eyes. We’ve seen them before, staring vacantly….
Just speculating; those eyes could also be from a young boy casting couch.
As well as a few dozen other speculations; though thinking your calculation is dead on.
Friends of Roman Polanski and Brian Singer?
This is exactly the type of situation that these in HollyFaggotWood thrive on. However, it is hard to say if these are just the eyes disinterested or uninterested due to the mindset when the picture was snapped or the obvious signs of abuse; be it drug abuse or molestation.
Them are dead eyes…Dem eyes I have witnessed from drug addicts and molested children alike, and hard to tell the difference till we speak.
Many thanks for your inquisitive knowledge of years wisdom. My ignorance to the depth of perceptiveness / illumination to this piece of this puzzle with introspective links, and how it had been authored in such depth, aged like brandy that had been bottled years ago, has attacked my common man senses in an awestruck amazement.
According to Steven Pinker in his book “The Better Angels of Our Nature”, young men who go on a murder-suicide rampage is actually not unique to America. Or to the West. Or even to modern society. It happened in our ancient hunter-gatherer past as well when a young man was denied a mate or status for too long.
The very word amok is derived from this exact behavior. Check out Wikipedia:
“Amok originated from the Malay/Indonesian word mengamuk, which when roughly defined means “to make a furious and desperate charge”.[5] According to Malay/Indonesian culture, amok was rooted in a deep spiritual belief.[6] They believed that amok was caused by the hantu belian,[7] which was an evil tiger spirit that entered one’s body and caused the heinous act. As a result of the belief, those in Indonesian culture tolerated amok and dealt with the after effects with no ill will towards the assailant.[8]
Although commonly used in a colloquial and less-violent sense, the phrase is particularly associated with a specific sociopathic culture-bound syndrome in Malaysian culture. In a typical case of running amok, an individual (often male), having shown no previous sign of anger or any inclination to violence, will acquire a weapon (traditionally a sword or dagger, but presently any of a variety of weapons) and in a sudden frenzy, will attempt to kill or seriously injure anyone he encounters and himself.[9] Amok typically takes place in a well populated or crowded area. Amok episodes of this kind normally end with the attacker being killed by bystanders or committing suicide, eliciting theories that amok may be a form of intentional suicide in cultures where suicide is heavily stigmatized.[10] Those who do not commit suicide and are not killed typically lose consciousness, and upon regaining consciousness, claim amnesia.
An early Western description of the practice appears in the journals of Captain James Cook, a British explorer, who encountered amok firsthand in 1770 during a voyage around the world. Cook writes of individuals behaving in a reckless, violent manner, without cause and “indiscriminately killing and maiming villagers and animals in a frenzied attack.” [11]
A widely accepted explanation links amok with male honor (amok by women is virtually unknown).[12] Running amok would thus be both a way of escaping the world (since perpetrators were normally killed) and re-establishing one’s reputation as a man to be feared and respected.”
Note that our hunter-gatherer past was a time when hypergamy was much less restricted than it was when humans started to get civilized. When hypergamy was contained, you didn’t have a word for young men going “amok”. Now that hypergamy is getting more and more unchained, we are starting to see a return to our hunter-gatherer past as far as male behavior is concerned.
There will be more Elliot Rodgers until hypergamy is controlled again.
A worthy contribution but hypergamy will only be controlled by a beta male/ alpha female alliance, and I don’t see that happening until after the collapse.
This is one of the Chateau’s best threads ever
So is it too early to blame the white man?
No because either he was white or he was driven to it by white racism. Get with the program!
No, not white racism, that card is frayed and worn. It’s white privilege these days.
[…] Source: Heartiste […]
The mescaline wisdom this kid so desperately needed is contained within the pages of GBFM. But unfortunately, after years of watching crap TV and playing video games, this generation no longer has the attention span needed to tackle the classics.
I propose we put our heads together and come up with a list of GMFM (Great Movies For Men).
The only criteria needed to qualify, is that it contains an aspect of Red Pill Truth.
To start the ball rolling I‘d like to nominate:
One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest
Plot:
The repressed, Man-hating, Nurse Ratchet, has been given authority over a group of male patients in a mental institution. She uses her power to systematically shame and even torture them out of any mescaline behaviour. The youngest patient (Billy Bibbit) who has a bit of the Elliot Rodgers about him, is constantly humiliated by Ratchet. Everything changes however, when – the alpha as fuck – R. P. McMurphy, an anti-authoritarian criminal serving a short sentence for statutory rape, is transferred to the mental institution for evaluation. McMurphy makes it his business to remind them all what being a Man is all about.
“But I tried God Damn it, at least I did that”
“But unfortunately, after years of watching crap TV and playing video games, this generation no longer has the attention span needed to tackle the classics.”
Video games IMPROVE concentration.
> …*mescaline* wisdom
Been on a spiritual trip lately?
Peter Rodger could likely get sued. http://gunsafetyblog.com/2014/05/26/is-filmmaker-peter-rodger-liable-for-elliot-rodgers-actions/
“How would you have felt if your family basically pulled a Pontius Pilate and washed their hands of you, sending you to a sleazeball who’s idea of therapy was promptly writing a script for Risperidone, an anti-schizophrenia drug?”
I think Elliot Rodgers had the work and responsibility to keep at bay the beast.
I am 1 year post game awareness/learning. I became aware after a really rough blind side LTR break up. I’m still young though, 23 yrs old.
I will say that all of this “red pill” online is addicting and I’ve found myself obsessing over it and analyzing too much–almost getting trapped in my head (which clearly happened to Rogers but in an unproductive way I guess).
“Red Pill” has IN FACT brought to light the areas that I FUCKED up in my LTR. I literally had no idea how to not be “beta”.
I think “red pill” isn’t as important as some people delve into it to be (such as analyzing every little freaking detail) b/c it can only go so far. BUT every bit helps even a little just with every aspect of life. I will say though the most important thing for LTRS that would’ve “saved” me from being pushed away was: not holding frame and falling off the deep-end with the girl. (such as “omg no I love you so much I can’t go on without you). Retarded people who don’t know what game or red pill is do that (we all know now not to do that ha).
THE HARDEST THING FOR ME TO FIGURE OUT IN MY STAGE RIGHT NOW:
Plate Theory.
If you have spun girls what is the sign that she is safe to fall in love with or be in an LTR with? like ROLLO, how did you know to get married with your wife.
Do you not get serious with “party age” girls?
Is it the “plate” that will obviously initiate everything and be out there…?GIRLS WHO HAVE OPTIONS (AKA high smv girls) don’t have an urgency to do this.
Maybe I’m dating too young of girls? Is it pretty much pointless to expect anything from these young young girls?
Biggest thing that I have most recently learned is to avoid ONEITIS AT ALL COSTS. Do not cuddle. Do not invest nearly anything high at all. Treat a girl like a salesman or actor auditioning for a part/role. Is this the only role for the man? and the girl will audition and thus build more relationship/emotion?
Thoughts
what is the sign that she is safe to fall in love with or be in an LTR with? …
Do you not get serious with “party age” girls? Maybe I’m dating too young of girls? Is it pretty much pointless to expect anything from these young young girls?
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Your still approaching this from a female frame, IE love as an ideal or that the age of a woman doesn’t matter.
Women will always be pragmatic. Even “in love with an alpha”. Love is an ideal that is mostly employed by men to rationalize monogamous, pro-social behavior (or an unwillingness to continually compete in a sexual market).
The closest female equivalent is tingles, generated by power, genes, resources, game (the sum of the former 3 manifest in personality + the proclivity for Machiavellianism).
The aim is not the affection resulting for high tingles (love) but rather to pursue the sources of their generation for their intrinsic value to yourself as the organism, independent of whether or not it may lead to replication.
http://therationalmale.com/2011/08/26/the-true-romantics/
http://therationalmale.com/2012/09/10/men-in-love/
Regarding age, women don’t mature, they just get older. This whole women that are “too young for a relationship” meme is a slight of hand designed so that you’re OK with Buying The Fucking Dip for the long haul after it has been gorged on, before the expiration date.
In reality, they’re playing biomechanics Wheel-of-Fortune, enjoying peak market value of the poosy while simultaneously looking for the best long-term tingles prospect to cash out on. If you’re the fucking man, they’ll take a raw load for the win at any age.
Is it the “plate” that will obviously initiate everything and be out there…?GIRLS WHO HAVE OPTIONS (AKA high smv girls) don’t have an urgency to do this.
Plate is the embodiment of having the qualities that generate them tingles. You’ve got so much of dat dere value you’re afforded multiple options, and true to herd mentality, once you’re a known wanted commodity the stock is pumped. It also serves to bolster the only truism, that you do this shit for your own DNA and not so you might be so lucky as to recombine.
High SMV girls (“alpha females”) have lost from a freer sexual market. Years past, the top dudes would be shuttled into lifelong monogamy with them. Now, they are freer to follow traditional alpha strategy, the propagation of genes as a volume rather than investment measure. They don’t want to spin plates because they want that one Christian Grey to be social titan beholden only to her for reprieve. Lower value chicks will spin plates to secure a beta fallback while simultaneously seeing if they can still get the top dog.
I know that for me the more “plates I spin” (hate this expression), the less likely it is that I’ll catch feelings. In the beginning (a few years ago), an LTR was definitely my goal, but now it’s the total opposite.
Like sure, if I ever met a 10 with a great personnality/sense of humour blablabla then maybe, but I think my standards are getting higher and higher the more girls I meet.
Also, like someone said here, when you see different girls, you have all the advantages of an LTR without the drawbacks : I get to “relationshipp-y” stuff with some girls (cuddling, watching movies etc.) but I know very well how to keep them at arms lengths so that they dont get attached too quick (but its unavoidable in the long run I think), I have a “main” girl who I do some stuff outside of my appartment with (restaurants, movies, clubbing etc.), but she’s cool with us seeing each other once a week at most, and she knows I hook up with other girls.
Most of the girls I’m seeing on a regular basis are “friends”, like we have our inside jokes, stuff we like to do together (one like smoking weed, with another one we follow some tv show together etc.) which means I get some emotional bonding, not juste some “i’ll fuck you and leave without talking to you” sex which can be draining in the long run.
So I basically see my “plates” on sunday/monday/tuesday, and on the other days I go out with my friends (not for the purpose of getting laid, but just to have fun), and I usually end up pulling a girl during the weekend.
This is the best arrangement for me because I really like sleeping with different girls (sex with only one girl, even if she’s stunning get boring really quick for me), I like having my own time/not being accountable to a girlfriend, and basically, girls-wise, my life now is drama-free and filled with good vibes, sex, fun and positive people. I love it :)
(sorry if there are mistakes, english is not my first language)
One of the sad realities is that given his look, the kid would have (ahem) killed it, if he ventured out of the toxic bubble he lived in and spent a few weeks/months in a place like Thailand and Philippines. Girls would have been throwing themselves at him like pussy frisbees.
I’m sorry… maybe I followed the wrong link or something, but aren’t you people into HBD?
Narcissistic/bipolar Anglo-Saxon/Jew stuck in a bitter Chinese Schizoid body living in the ‘Bu. Is it necessary to belabor this?
Sometimes cross-breeding produces a lesser stock where the worst traits of the parents collect in the offspring.
At the end of the day, Elliot was a sexual deviant who despised female sexuality and then went out like a jihadist… Homo-sexual.
Has anyone considered the conspiracy angle?
The Hunger Games is about the ritualistic mass murder of children.
Elliot Rodgers’ father was a producer for The Hunger Games.
Suzanne Collins, author of the Hunger Games, lives in Sandy Hook, where Adam Lanza killed 20 children.
James Holmes killed 12 people at the 2012 midnight premiere of The Dark Knight Rises. The movie contains a scene where Sandy Hook appears on a map.
This country contains tens of millions of psychologically disturbed, sexually frustrated young men. It’s strange that three recent mass shootings have a Hollywood connection. Makes me think Vigilant Citizen is onto something.
It sounds like an Alan Moore plot From Hell.
Lucifer over Isla Vista, Satanic Hook and … Well I cannot think of the Colorado connection per se.
Too bad there’s no longer an X-Files, huh?
“Don’t blame no medication”.
How many of perpetrators of mass shootings in US were on SSRIs? It will not be used by/for my kids as long as I have any say about it.
[He thought merely showing up and plopping down on a park bench would have the girls falling into his lap (and like a peculiar subspecies of MGTOW, his belief system similarly embraced the strange notion that making efforts to get girls was beneath him)]
Speaking as a MGTOW, when I exercise restraint from ‘making efforts to get girls’ it is not because I think doing so is beneath me, but because an assessment of the rewards of such a pursuit versus the associated risks (including time and effort expended) leads me to conclude that such a pursuit is not always worth it. Put simply we MGTOWs don’t let our lives revolve around chasing pussy, even if we might still pursue it occasionally. Most of us have not rejected pussy, we have simply deprioritized it. Indeed, most MGTOWs I know tend not to have a problem attracting women, but are simply tired with the stress and baggage that accompanies them. Also, by my estimation most MGTOWs are not celibate. We simply reject marriage and under no circumstances do we allow ourselves to be controlled by sex or the promise of it. Freedom is the core message.
On the nature/nurture thing…
I find it telling that two most extreme guys in the HBD debate about this are Jayman, (an obese guy), and misdreavus (a fag). Seems these guys have incentive to shield themselves from admitting nurture is a thing. If we have free will and upbringing matters, then Jayman might have to put the fork down, and misdreavus might have to resent his parents.
Better to pretend its all genes, right guys?
What boy goes through teen years without kissing a single girl?
Are these boys a statistical outlier? Or becoming more common?
He didn’t look terrible. I’m amazed quite frankly that failed to even song a girl. His antisocial mien would have looked like any other teen to a drunk girl at a party.
“He was omega by choice because it was easier than doing any work.”
The concrete truth.
Although the Christians here will disagree, the BEST way to build a masculine identity in the modern world is to read Nietzsche. That dude tells it straight. He didn’t have the level of scientific knowledge that we have today, but he basically laid out a way for a man to live in a world where there is no God, no morality, no higher purpose and no escape. Don’t listen to the morons who say he had a thing for his sister or whatever other red herring they throw out to avoid engaging with his actual words.
As he said in one of his aphorisms “Type of my disciples: To those human beings in whom I have a stake, I wish suffering, being forsaken, maltreatment, humiliation–I wish that they should not remain unfamiliar with profound self-contempt, the torture of self-mistrust and the misery of the vanquished: I have no pity for them because I wish them the only thing that can prove today whether one is worth anything or not–that one endures.”
Nietzsche also says at some point (paraphrasing): “One who does not have a father must invent one for himself”. His father died when N was 4 years old, so he knew from whence he spoke.
My own father was an ex-Marine, ex-EMT and ex-cop who never took shit from anyone, but was pushed into beta-tude by my mom, so I’ve seen it up close and personal how the pussy can impact even a badass dude.
Autism is not a disorder, and especially not an anti-social disorder. The autistic people I know are v social, much more than myself thats for sure.
Please know what you’re writing about, or don’t write about it.
Attention please:
Dr. “ray” troll has corrected the comment section. He knows a couple of autistic people that are social; more social than himself.
The DSM V is being updated.
[…] include Heartise (who couldn’t resist blaming the dad despite the clear folly of this as per my earlier posts […]
anyone else say this yet? here goes some criticism of Hollywood horny teenage movies and note the butthurt response from said actor.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/05/28/ann_hornaday_on_elliot_rodger_judd_apatow_seth_rogen_and_sexist_movies_aren.html
Maybe 35 years ago as a teen I heard some curmudgeon movie star, maybe Robert Blake, complain that in the 1950′s the movies were antiseptically asexual w/ no one acting horny etc. and he said this was harmful b/c if you were a healthy teenage boy you would feel like the oddball b/c you were boiling over w/ hormones and insecurities about your body image and socially uncomfortable and that was Hollywood’s fault b/c of the bland unrealism they were portraying.
Fast forward to 2014 where Hollywood and TV are showing dumpy, loser man-boys and everyone else having sex on the first date. (Witness women portrayed as hot-to-trot aiming to relieve their tension on the first man they see) and many real life teenage boys and men can’t get a date much less sex on the first date and they conclude they are the one w/ the problem.
Therefore doesn’t Hollywood bear some responsibility? And the actors who’ve made a fortune promoting this promiscuous fallacy?
Witness “How I met your Mother” Barney Stinston’s actor, who is actually gay in real life. His character beds a woman at the drop of a hat; if that is the default for young men then how many real life young men count themselves as losers?
And remember fellows we always tend to be our own worse critics.
Nothing antiseptically asexual about Lana Turner. Or a young Liz Taylor.
True autism is a transcendent rebuke of choice parenthood. Its emergence represents a metaphysical acknowledgement of the absolutely hostile womb of the liberated female. It’s an organic expression of solidarity with those brothers and sisters snuffed out by a mother’s whim. It’s a genuine “radical autonomy” that can devastate the psychological well-being of the autistic’s parents.
Elliot wasn’t autistic. He was sexual deviant provoked by many internal and external factors.
[…] CH continues to explore the Elliot Rodger story because it reveals cracks in our culture that go beyond one man’s murderous rampage. […]
I have an Alpha son and an Omega son. Same mother, same house. Different schools and different peer groups though. The Omega fell into a goth and drugs type social circle, which I battled for years. It was like a ten years’ war.
The Omega son was stubborn since age 12 or so and just did not fucking listen to rational advice, even after you had predicted to him the exact disaster which was going to occur if he continued his course of action. Again and again. Not sure if “I told you so” is a great parenting method, but if you have a kid who keeps touching the hot stove . . .
The Alpha kid always “got it” and went through school and adolescence fine and is now doing great.
Of course I wonder what I could done different and think I made mistakes and there was some family dysfunction (quarrelsome wife, divorced after the kids grew up), but sometimes the genetic/environmental dice just fall that way.
Damn wrench… I feel for you. I have a 12 year old son and it absolutely terrifies me to think how much of his development and future confidence/happiness may be completely out of my control.
Thing is, on the one hand he spends way too much time playing the fucking video games, stuck in his dark room, etc.
On the other hand, he does demonstrate some serious alpha traits… I can see how he reacts with the girls: Not giving them the time of day, teasing them, giving them the brush off. And even at the tender age of 12, I can see the girls starting to react to it… Trying to give him hugs, laughing at his jokes.
Shit is going to get serious though in the next few years… I’m already trying to lay the groundwork now… Upping the roughhousing, slap boxing, wrestling, telling him he’s a badass, not putting up with pussy behavior, doing manly things with him, encouraging his masculinity.
The most critical job I have now is wrestling him from the clutches of his controlling mother (yes, I was way too beta with the wife for years before I discovered Game – and changing that dynamic is a separate issue that I’m working.). Raised by a controlling single mother myself, it’s taken years to undo that script and I’ll be damned if I’m going to pass that down another generation.
But the way I see it is that there are absolutely no rites of passage from boyhood to manhood in our society today, so I’m going t have to invent my own. Whoever it was who suggested taking your lad to the mall and paying him for every approach and number close he makes should get a medal…. Would love other ideas.
Yes, unfortunately I was ignorant of the Red Pill during those years and had to battle the wife for control of discipline and standards with the kids. She was also prone to whipping me up about them when I came home for work tired, which led to my getting on their case, which did not contribute to the best relationship. Now I would see it as a product of her own female drama and not react so much.
I think a lot of it is luck, what type of peer group your kid falls into in early adolescence. Sports are key, one difference between the brothers is that the Alpha stuck with sports while the Omega dropped them early on.
I was a gothy kid for a year or two.
It didn’t hurt with the women. Indeed I think goth is just a form of peacock.
This child was unnaturally asexual and in my opinion totally uninterested in girls probably only really interested in boys.
My husband recently told me he finds the fathers, of the boys involved in sports, to be the most normal and likable fathers he interacts with. My husband isn’t a super jock, either.
How can a guy really have and alpha and omega son? Especially if the mother is the same female.
Genes, not environment, should be the determining factor in the Alpha-Beta-Omega categorization. Are their personalities or physics much different? Did the Omega have some sort of extremely damaging environment? Siblings can vary but usually not that much.
In any coupling of a male and a female, there are probably billions of possible genetic combinations, considering dominant genes, recessive genes, etc. Plus environment will vary, as I explained.
Think Fredo, Sonny and Michael Corleone.
the omega son you refer to is probably actually alpha
“Different schools and different peer groups though. The Omega fell into a goth and drugs type social circle, which I battled for years.”
I call that social self-medication. I went through something like that myself because I hated school so much because it was so painfully boring. It felt like being in an eternal waiting line. If the Omega has a relatively high IQ you can probably point a finger at the One-Size-Fit-All No-You-Won’t-Be-Allowed-to-be-Productive government school system.
A friend of mine has a 4 years old son and he seems to be gifted with a high IQ and I told him if he becomes bored at school never side with the school system, always side with your son.
White people are privileged:
1. If there is an atrocity then a white person is always to blame;
2. If the person committing the atrocity is only partially white then that person is a white person and thus a white person is to blame;
3. If the person committing the atrocity is not white, then white people are still to blame because the non-white person has been oppressed by white people.
Males are always to blame:
1. If something bad happens to a woman it is the fault of a man;
2. If bad things happen to men and women equally then only women are victims;
3. If bad things happen only to men the bad things did not happen at all.
Women are the rulers of the Universe:
1. Any thing a woman does is the greatest thing that has ever happened and only a woman is capable;
2. If a man does something great then it would have been done by a woman save for male oppression of women;
3. If a man did do something great then then behind every great man is a woman.
ye for real though what about behind every great woman is a great man
who she doin the shit for
the white father is a race mixer; the fault tree starts with him. he should get a rope and walk out to his swingset.
and here the fucked up part dudes taking all the flak
but I asked my girl how many time she came she said I don’t know
last two days probably a thousand
A THOUSAND FUCKING TIMES
how the fuck is it ever going to be equal it can’t be
not possible for me to cum a k times in two days
life ain’t fair that for sure
she prob tolf mr she love me a thousand times but ahh i’d rather have the thousand cums he he he
told me i’m the sexiest man to ever walk the face of the earth
I guess she does try to make up for it blowing up my head
he he he
even hotter I am actually prob not the sexiest dude to ever walk the earth objectively ain’t love grand
even said get that big fat dick in me
he he he
she came up from shower did a weather check outside came back in what would you like me to wear skirt or shorts?
she did an hour of callesthetics this morning jail did her good
I got to watch was pretty cool
@dunderhead
“Damn wrench… I feel for you. I have a 12 year old son and it absolutely terrifies me to think how much of his development and future confidence/happiness may be completely out of my control.
Why is it completely out of your control? It sure as shit should be in your control – especially because it’s your son.
Thing is, on the one hand he spends way too much time playing the fucking video games, stuck in his dark room, etc.
Walk in – turn light on – turn games off. Go outside and throw/kick a ball at him.
On the other hand, he does demonstrate some serious alpha traits… I can see how he reacts with the girls: Not giving them the time of day, teasing them, giving them the brush off. And even at the tender age of 12, I can see the girls starting to react to it… Trying to give him hugs, laughing at his jokes.
~sigh~ he’s 12
Shit is going to get serious though in the next few years… I’m already trying to lay the groundwork now… Upping the roughhousing, slap boxing, wrestling, telling him he’s a badass, not putting up with pussy behavior, doing manly things with him, encouraging his masculinity.
Have to agree with you there.
The most critical job I have now is wrestling him from the clutches of his controlling mother (yes, I was way too beta with the wife for years before I discovered Game – and changing that dynamic is a separate issue that I’m working.). Raised by a controlling single mother myself, it’s taken years to undo that script and I’ll be damned if I’m going to pass that down another generation.
I’m going through this with my 13 yo girl as well as early ‘soft game intro’ for my 8 yo son. I can empathise re swallowing the red pill late in an LTR/marriage and the shock / acceptance – then transition/calibration phase post red pill to establish Frame –however if you really have swallowed the red pill you should know what to do – put a stick in the hamster wheel and take control of him now. Fuc what she says.
But the way I see it is that there are absolutely no rites of passage from boyhood to manhood in our society today, so I’m going t have to invent my own.
Why invent your own? There are plenty of rites of passage – playing any sport, getting a band together, having a unique talent/passion + other stuff which requires dedication/practise/confidence/skill.
Whoever it was who suggested taking your lad to the mall and paying him for every approach and number close he makes should get a medal…. Would love other ideas.
Yeah, but at 15/16+
Yeah, you’re right. And I am taking way more control of him now. What’s really been the most rewarding thing is that he’s now seeking my approval way more than in the past. We have our own private moments… We shoot the shit… He brags to me about his male accomplishments and I’m heavy with the “attaboys”.
What I meant by rites of passage are more the old traditional (probably almost tribal) rites of passage. And I am inventing my own… Going camping with him. Doing guy stuff… Just the two of us… Without his sisters.
Why did Elliot never try online dating?
He prolly did. After 75,894 fake profiles, land whales, Single Moms 13-55 and mega-attitudinous gold-digger famewhores out for Brad Pitt ONLY, he gave up. Just like the rest of us.
He should have found himself a pimp and become a gigolo for cougars. After watching a few of his ‘driving’ videos it was like watching ‘American Gigolo’ just with a guy who was utterly clueless about what he could have been.
I’m comparing notes with my own teenage sex life or lack thereof.
I’d done some heavy petting by age 14.
Lost it at 16.
During by teens I think I made out with at minimum 10 different women. Bedded 4.
In the natural course of events a teenage boy who is interested in girls will have at least kissed a few girls.
I think this kid had to have been latently homosexual. That or impotent like Jonathan Swift.
Even a malfunctioning misanthrope will have bumped into an equally insane chick and snogged at a party.
The kid didn’t feel entitled to pussy. I don’t think he even wanted it. Girls do respond to the expression of desire.
Fuck you.
The one particular reason i think he is not homosexual is he basically told an incredibly pathetic story in his manifesto as CH observes, he wasn’t embarrassed about how huge of a loser he was. So if he was gay I’m sure he’d be fine admitting that in the manifesto. He’s going to tell all this but hide his homosexuality? In California it’s socially worse to be a 22 YO heterosexual virgin than a homosexual.
“I’d done some heavy petting by age 14.
Lost it at 16.”
Well, My first time was at 28.
“Even a malfunctioning misanthrope will have bumped into an equally insane chick and snogged at a party. ”
Not necessary. What party?
This is your best piece on this, CH.Nice.
I had a lot of the same experiences. But I had some hope, some strategy, for improving my life. ER didn’t have this, and didn’t have any way of getting it. He was just screwed, as some people are. The only person who could have helped him was his father, and not getting help from him some very bad ending was assured.
BTW Heartiste,
Your advice to befriend a “natural” and not be envious of his success with women if you really want to learn game and about women in general is spot-on. I’m a sigma by nature (can hardly be bothered to fuck women, I’ve just got other man stuff to attend to and I can’t spare the time, but when I get the itch, can find a woman to scratch it) but two of the three best friends in my life have been alpha dudes who have each banged over a hundred women, which, even in today’s fast and loose sexual culture, is a pretty good notch count. And we’re not talking fatties. Witnessing the absolutely torturous logic women would spout to rationalize becoming yet another notch on these guys’ bedposts was a trip, to say the least. Was like getting a peek behind the (meat) curtains of the “great and powerful Oz”. Pre-selection is absolutely a valid construct for understanding how the social world works. When a woman knows she’s going to get a good fuck thrown her way, she’ll move mountains to get to riding that cock.
These are two absolutely great guys who deserved all the pussy they got, but what I think they love about me was that I wasn’t in awe of just how many women they fucked and I was able to neg the shit out of them for being so entranced by the pussy (among many negs I would throw their way, as well as being their “go-to guy buddy”. Push-pull). Negging is so powerful, it even works on alpha males, when delivered credibly. Once you reach that level of game, you’re basically a demi-god among men.
Risperdal (risperidone) is being linked to development of female breasts in males in a lawsuit against J and J
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“How would you have felt if your family basically pulled a Pontius Pilate and washed their hands of you, sending you to a sleazeball who’s idea of therapy was promptly writing a script for Risperidone, an anti-schizophrenia drug?”
First of all that literary image is perfect.
zzyz just beat me to it: As though this incel story couldn’t get any crueler, risperdone, offered as Risperdal by Johnson & Johnson and their subsidiary Janssen, caused boys who were given it as antipsychotic treatment to grow female breasts. Breasts so complete that they would begin lactating.
The story was broken and exposed by an investigative reporter. Who? That’s right. Sharyl Attkisson.
Johnson & Johnson and their subsidiary Janssen,
Johnson & Johnson and Janssen?
But I suppose if risperdal gives you manboobs, then manboobery, PMS, and a plush gay face can’t be far off.
Johnson & Johnson and Janssen?
I too cringed.
This story just depresses me. Feminist white knight anti-PUA turd goes postal, and they blame it on….the PUA’s.
This is a common Doublethink and Newspeak concept of the left—-blame anything done by lefties on the anti-left. Doesn’t matter if it makes sense, just keep repeating it over and over, louder and louder. The left made up and always runs with the BIg Lie. Remember that Hitler was a National Socialist, and all of his policies were socialist. The left lies about that all the time.
Oswald, a fervent commie, shoots at Kennedy, because Kennedy’s a strong anti-communist….and Oswald is suddenly caused by “right-wing hate.”
Perverted fudge packer Matthew Shepherd gets murdered by another mentally disturbed GAY man in a drug deal/lover’s quarrel…and somehow its a HATE CRIME by evil STRAIGHTS requiring new legislation.
1/4 black Neighborhood watch member and tutoror of black children George Zimmerman shoots a drug dealer and robber named Trayvon Martin who attacks Zimmerman out of the bushes late at night…means that whitey shot an innocent black teen.
Blacks burn cities, commit 80% of all crimes…and somehow this is whitey’s fault.
And let’s not forget all the “hate crimes” on college campuses that turns out are just false flags by minority groups.
The left truly is taking 1984 to heart.
No rape today, boys, in honor of my depression at the sad state of modern affairs.
Rape moratorium rape.
These are smart examples. I forgot all that about Zimmerman and about Shepard.
Grapes!
“No rape today, boys, in honor of my depression at the sad state of modern affairs.”
Fuck I wish I would have seen this like 2 hours ago :/ Oswald probably wasn’t the shooter btw, look up E Howard Hunt’s deathbed testimonial.
Note the language I used: Oswald shot at Kennedy; I didn’t say kill, although I’m pretty strongly in the Oswald-did-it-alone camp (with perhaps some strong encouragement from the Cubans). In any event, the facts are clear that Oswald was a fervent commie who hated the anti-commie Kennedy and took a shot or three at him.
Word to the wise:
If you’re a muscular Anglo or Euro with yellow fever, your son will be a skinny, low-T, half-breed who’s behind the eight ball in the US dating market.
I would have agreed 5 years ago. However, since then, I’ve noticed an uptick in two areas:
1. Half-asian/half-white kids having success and dating regularly.
2. Pure asian guys with a lot of success with non-asian girls. Cute and hot white ones.
I think this is a good thing, because I want these asians and half-asians picking up chicks and getting laid; not only to prevent some kind of retribution against whitey for grabbing yellow poonani, but because, generally, I like most of the asian dudes I come into contact with–they’re civilized, cool dudes, and don’t deserve to be stuck in nice guy categories. Plus you should see heads spin when an asian dude out alphas a black dude—pure awesome. Black dudes have little experience with being out alphaed by whitey these days, but NO baseline for when a yellow dude out swoops them.
I’m not sure about demographics on my round of manosphere websites, but I’ll bet there’s a higher percentage of asian dudes reading Heartiste, et al. than in the general population. The red pill hit whitey first and then trickled into yellowly next. Were it not for Affirmative Action being ensconced for yellows, they’d all be voting Republican.
Any guy who is “stuck in the nice guy territory” is probably not actually a nice guy. Are you saying that Elliot Rodger was “nice”? He was not. Nice polite guys don’t go to parties and try to throw people off ledges. He had severe social problems and a mental disorder. I feel sympathy for all the families – especially his because they were trying so hard to get help for him. Nice guys don’t plot to kill people because those people don’t perform to their expectations. Nice guys go learn better social skills.
The aspergers is strong with this one.
Also racist.
Also….missed that she was a woman. Then typical female hamster spin.
Back to the kitchen, honey!
Oh tee hee back to the kitchen. Oooooooooh you’re soooo alpha
Sorry fella but the Asians are a hostile group. Not savages but definitely hostiles. Arguably they are a hostile elite nowadays.
Better a civilized man than a subhuman savage (see: kneegroes).
Your lips are still flapping but I still don’t have a sammich.
Rape!
Make me care that you don’t have a “sammich.”
A little Irish kiss makes every woman care.
Los Angeles is a god awful place to raise a child. It’s not real. I lived there for a time and the amount of status signaling, posturing, social climbing…it is just flat out creepy. You can’t have a conversation with most people without them somehow relation EVERYTHING back to themselves. It’s as bad as you would expect. I don’t know, maybe for someone like Tyler Durden can play the club scene that long and maintain a level head but that shit eventually wore on me. People lack a soul there because they’ve sold it to move up.
I haven’t read too much into the Elliot situation yet beyond the highlights from the news, but I’d give it a 95% chance this kid was abused sexually as a child and his dad turned a blind eye.
I remember an old commercial that nailed L.A. pretty well:
“But enough about me, darling, let’s talk about you. What do YOU think of ME?”
haha…on point for sure
Well, he was no Jimmy Hendrix that’s for sure…..
Peter Rodger married a Chinese woman four years older than himself. Now he’s a good looking guy, who could surely have locked down a hot white woman. I know a guy (early twenties) who married a Thai chick his age – she is petite and hot but does anyone think that he is therefore God’s gift to women?: Of course not because one would suspect that with white women he would be doing well with a 5 – and obviously he could not even manage that. The same must apply to Rodger Senior – marrying an older woman and a Chinese woman at that. It seems to me that Rodger senior may have had problems of a like nature which got passed on to the son.
Getting yellow fever is what you do when you have few options and less inhibitions.
As a parent I can imagine the pain and grief of the families of the murdered young women and, yes, men (a fact left out of many media accounts). But as the father of a young man around the same age as Elliot (and a former young man myself) it pains me to think of the hell he must have been going through. From my son’s experience, I know that in just “regular” cities around the country it is nearly impossible for a shy young man to make any headway with the modern entitled young woman. It must be an order of magnitude worse in places like LA. I am trying to slip some game theory to him under the radar, but having gone to a typical state university he spent four years being steeped in feminist horsesh*t dogma, so he isn’t as receptive as I’d like. Unfortunately he went to college before I discovered the manosphere, otherwise I would never have paid for such an indoctrination … I mean … education. Any other fathers of twenty somethings have any advice on reaching the blue pill young men after years of blue-pill indoctrination?
Robert, give your son the proper advice and support when you can, but you should also just refer him to the CH site. Consider sending him links to particularly salient posts. You can’t fine-tune or protect him anymore. Hell, these young men are constantly exposed to all manner of degenerate filth in mainstream culture and the internet, so don’t worry about further exposure to libertinism or nihilism. He needs the real world practical advice about female nature that he will not get anywhere else.
Elliot was a creep. But, despite being a creep, father Rodger put his arm around Elliot and appeared to be introducing him “This is my son” and the rest was faded out and cut off. I mean, there it is, right in front of you, and you missed it. Talk about missing social cues! If Elliot could drive out to Vegas to buy lottery tickets and spent $700 on them in hopes of winning money so he could get sex, why on earth didn’t he just go to the Bunny Ranch with those $700? It would have given him a night or two of what he called “heaven.” Makes no sense whatsoever. And then Elliot who claims he was cultured, polite, and the perfect gentleman basically wasn’t well dressed and looked like a dork on the red carpet. And Heartiste being one of the “popular kids” he was after you, too.
Feminists get angry at men and demand access to things that they do not have the ability to go out and get for themselves.
Occupy Wall Street types get angry at rich people for having things that they themselves want, and demand access to their wealth, even if it was legitimately earned.
Minorities (blacks in particular) feel entitled to things they do not have the ability to earn or achieve on their own merits.
PUAHATE types feel entitled to certain things that they are unable or unwilling to go out and get themselves.
The last group is easy to despise since it’s comprised of a bunch of men that could be at best categorized as losers, but the only difference between the PUAHATE crowd and the other three is that the other three have government/cultural sanction to covet what others have.
Talk about a feminist destroyed culture. Brooklyn now has a smallest penis in brooklyn contest. This is undeniable evidence the world is ending as we know it.
http://gothamist.com/2014/05/28/smallest_penis_in_brooklyn_winner_w.php
FATHER PROBLEM POSSITIVELY:
I have once read of a story of a boy who grew up from a drunkard father who was depressed of the death of his wife.
Three decades pass and the boy grew into a decent man. He became wealthy and high status.And he had kids of his own.
People ask why since he was obvious;y raised by a deadbeat dad,
The boy who is now a man responded that he remmebers every night, his father would kiss him goodnight in the forehead, and tells him
“I love you son”
until the day he died..
It only takes love from a father to make a good man.
Dude. I’m sure that’s true. Thanks for sharing this. :)
Men kissing boys is kind of gay i.m.o. Good for that dude though.
ur gay
The guy was f*kced in the head. Complained about people not accepting him and being bullied in high school, yet he referred to 98% of the the students at his remedial high school as slobs that he didn’t want anything to do with.
Best part of the manifesto was when he got pushed off the roof/ledge, broke his ankle, and got beat up after trying to push those girls off the ledge only because they were having a good time.
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I don’t buy this for a moment, the kid had a famous father and BMW surely SOME girl would have fucked him if he wanted to fuck. You don’t even have to approach, they approach. If he was really sex starved he could have traveled to South America or SE Asia, like so many other men. Don’t believe his bullshit manifesto, kid just wanted to kill and made up a bunch of stuff he thought someone like him “would say.”
[CH: since the story broke, tons of interviews from people who knew elliot in real life have come out, corroborating the picture elliot drew of his own life.]
Excellent. One of your best, CH.
Can’t figure out how you missed that Elliot Rodger was introduced during the video clip, though it was faded out and cut. Also, he was a creep. He was not cultured or sophisticated as he thought he was. He was not nice in any way. He looked and acted off on the red carpet rather than dressing nice as he thought he did – which in a red carpet situation would mean that he would at least wear a suit. He tried to push everyone one off the ledge – he hated that people were having a good time when he wasn’t. I can’t figure out why he didn’t take the $700he spent on lotto tix to the bunny ranch so he could just have the sex he said he wanted. Sex isn’t ultimately as big of a deal as he made it and it would not have resolved his severe social and behavioral issues. This is not a nice guy gone wrong – he was never a nice guy to begin with.
I still feel horrible for the parents of all involved. At least one of the boys was an only child and his father is heartbroken.
He didn’t want sex at all.
Director- agreed. It was actually about status and psychosis. He did not see the world in a normal way.
At PUAhate they always promoted the LMS theory..its not game, its Looks, Money and Status..which Eliot had. The irony is that they would use LMS theory to justify why they couldn’t do well with women.
Yes, I’m impressed by how being a total creep made everyone shy away from him. It’s kind of sad.
For those who are curious about Elliot’s manifesto but don’t want to wade through it (it IS excessively long and repetitive) I have created a Readers Digest version.
Here Goes!
The ‘Boy Does My Life Suck’ Manifesto
by Elliot Rodger
condensed by evilwhitemalempire
I was born sometime in the early 90′s somewhere in England and it was a wonderful place and had lots of fun and had no idea what darkness lay ahead and then I took a vacation to Germany and then France and then some other place and then I moved to America cuz my dad’s a movie director and I took a bath with a girl and it was the first and last time I would see a naked girl and then I went some other place and then Dad got divorced and then hooked up with a real bitch and I had to put up with her shit a lot and then I made friends with some guys and learned to skateboard but later gave it up cuz guys younger than me could do more stuff cuz I’m a runt and they’re not and then I got a hackey sack and lost it on a school roof and then I traded Pokemon cards for a while and then my sister lost her virginity before me and that sucked and then I played video games to escape life’s injustices and then got bullied at some middle school and then went to an all boys school to escape being intimidated by all the girls but it back fired and I got bullied a lot and guys played recordings of their girlfriends yelling “Oh, bully kid you’re the greatest! Yes! Yes!” to prove they made it and then I cried and then they pulled me out of that school and put me in another and then something happened and then I went on vacation and then I went to some high school for a few days and cried to mom how bad it was so they took me out and put me in some kind of GED thing and then I played more video games and then I went on vacation and then my mother started seeing some rich guy but wouldn’t marry him so I’d be rich to get laid how selfish of her and then I went to the premier of all the new star wars movies all at once cuz my mother’s a friend of George Lucas and then I finished high school and started college but I just couldn’t stand all the couples kissin’ so I had to go home and play more video games and then Mom sent me to Santa Barbara for college and I thought it was all going to work out for me but it didn’t all the girls liked jocks and assholes and not me a perfect gentleman and I had foul mexicans for roommates that bragged how they got pussy all the time so I cried and then I stopped going to class but just pretended so Mom wouldn’t raise hell and then I tried to win the lottery to get rich to get laid using Jedi mind powers but it didn’t work and then I finally gave up video games and finally lost my best runt friend and then I decided to buy some guns and ammo and then I went to a party and got drunk and tried to push everyone off the balcony but I got pushed off instead and broke my leg and they stole a gold necklace grandma gave me but mom bought me a new one later then I stayed at Mom’s while my leg healed and then I planned my retribution and now I’m off to do it. (And all along the way a whole slew of folks I grew up with got laid and got a life while I remained a virgin for ever and ever.)
The End
Epilogue: Females are too irresponsible to be allowed to choose their own mates and sex should all be done away with and use artificial insemination instead and all females should starve to death as I gleefully watch from a watch tower.
lol kill jews 1488
What a moron. How could he prevent himself from getting laid considering how much he had going for him? Sure, girls won’t date you just because you have a BMW and your parents know famous people, but both surely do help, especially when you’re 18-22. This guy must have been a huge ass creep.
Wow! Heartiste is so smart! :)
I wish I had his brain.
brain?
“Radar broke the story: Elliot’s parents have previously told law enforcement that their son had been taking Xanax in the days before the horrific murders, and feared he could have been abusing the anti-anxiety medication.
The Xanax had been prescribed to Elliot by a family doctor, according to law enforcement sources.
“Elliot had been taking Xanax for awhile, according to his parents … there were fears he might have been addicted to it, or taking more than was prescribed,” a law enforcement source previously told Radar.”
Just another pharma-phucking….sorry to say. :(
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2014/06/ucsb-shooter-elliot-rodger-xanax-made-him-withdrawn-lonely-isolated-anxious/
Yes, because he’s so smart. I wish I was as intelligent as him.
Do you think you could do an article about the queef? I was reading this one and the word made me think of my gorgeous HB 8.5 girlfriend.( 1 point off for the varts) She has this killer body long blonde hair and a beautiful face. The sex is amazing until she starts queefing and I lose my erection. The first time it happened it scared me so bad I leapt up off the bed. Is this normal?
Next time, pick someone with less traffic who is actually aroused by you.
excessive queefing = cavernous and dry
Good piece. I am getting to the age where I either need to have kids or be a confirmed bachelor. One thing is for sure, if I choose the latter it’s going to be with a lady who looks like me (scots-Irish/German) and who understands if she tries to take my kids away she will meet with an accident. Then, raise them with right principles of self-respect and rationality.
Come on, dude. Me no teg.