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    "The gaming industry is constantly learning what people like and want included in games. If you don't listen you're making a big mistake. That's why we at MindArk try to have as good a contact as possible with the users so we can get their input on what they want to see in Project Entropia, and what they want to experience."

    Soooo what happened?... you fucked it.. that's what happened.. you got greedy, lost your way then sold out. Now you can't face the community that built you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coachman View Post
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    Listed owners from 2006. Might reflect the situation as it is today in some parts.

    Mindarks alla aktie�gare
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    Akteiinvest FK AB 0,01
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    Urban Both�n, V�stra Fr�lunda 1,70
    Patrik Broddesson, Australien 0,27
    Carnegie Investment Bank AB 27,04
    Sevo Daniel, G�teborg 0,17
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    Tom Edlund, G�teborg 0,17
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    Hanna Friberg, G�teborg 0,21
    Andreas Funksj�, G�teborg 0,86
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    Isn't Golden Shadow Pictures the company that produced some of the Jon Jacob movies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by edeanp View Post
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    Isn't Golden Shadow Pictures the company that produced some of the Jon Jacob movies?
    Distributor on some http://www.imdb.com/company/co0064771/

    out of the 8 films Jon is credit as director http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0414481/

    they're distributor of 7, the production company behind 2 and he was an actor in all of them.

    Even more interesting is the domain info

    http://whois.pho.to/golden_shadow_pi..._camden_drive/

    Administrative Contact:
    Jacobs, Jon nevereverdie@xxx.xxx.xxx
    Golden Shadow pictures
    468 N Camden Drive
    Suite #300
    Beverly Hills, CA 90210
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    and they have the trademark on 'NEVERDIE'

    How on earth did he find out about the sale of CND

    Have to give credit to Thanatos as he found most of that last year

    http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/fo...=1#post2383143

    but I never knew that they were a small shareholder in MA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindStar9 View Post
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    Are there more details regarding this Spike? I think I missed something somewhere along the way.
    The Silverbridge Investor bunch or something like that, or so I remember

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    Quote Originally Posted by Art Jennifer View Post
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    Good read, but pointless as it is 2001
    Yep shows how bad MA screwed us

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindStar9 View Post
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    These were the most interesting parts of that interview to me ...
    "We are building a world that will be under constant development, both from MindArk's side as well as those who live their lives on Calypso. We want everybody who creates an account in Project Entropia to feel like they are participating in the development of this world."
    "The main story line is not a straight line and will be interlaced with parallel story lines as well as dead ends. We have a lot of possibilities to work with and we'd like to use the input from players as guidelines for future events and development."
    "The gaming industry is constantly learning what people like and want included in games. If you don't listen you're making a big mistake. That's why we at MindArk try to have as good a contact as possible with the users so we can get their input on what they want to see in Project Entropia, and what they want to experience."
    This should be an interesting discussion.

    I also don't think it's pointless because it gives insight to where their mindset was back then, and how it evolved ... or not.
    good comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpikeBlack View Post
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    Distributor on some http://www.imdb.com/company/co0064771/

    out of the 8 films Jon is credit as director http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0414481/

    they're distributor of 7, the production company behind 2 and he was an actor in all of them.

    Even more interesting is the domain info

    http://whois.pho.to/golden_shadow_pi..._camden_drive/



    and they have the trademark on 'NEVERDIE'

    How on earth did he find out about the sale of CND

    Have to give credit to Thanatos as he found most of that last year

    http://www.planetcalypsoforum.com/fo...=1#post2383143

    but I never knew that they were a small shareholder in MA.
    Thats an amazing discovery ...

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    when I started this game and read forums and looked around it seemed to me that the sale of CND was all marketing I would not be at all surprised if he didn't actually pay for CND. Was just an internal deal with MA. Just smoke and mirrors

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    He paid for CND, but it did not go as MA want os to see it thats what i think....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindStar9 View Post
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    Are there more details regarding this Spike? I think I missed something somewhere along the way.
    This old article is one of the funkier ones:
    http://www.realtid.se/ArticlePages/2...tid285.dbp.asp

    Incase you don't feel like reading engrish from google translate, here are the key points:

    - July 2005; MindArk is going through an equity issuance through Bridge Investment Group (a known MLM group), which means that Bridge Investment Group will actually have stocks to offer their members (which is one of their "official" goals).
    Bridge operates by selling stocks of non-listed companies, that are due to make themselves listed within 3 years.

    - Welter Timkrans (CEO of MA) mentions it will make his ownership will go down from 44% to 40%; in other words, an equity issuance for +10% of the current amount.

    - It is mentioned that they actually have a system implemented for players to buy shares (which is done, but not implemented) back in 2005.

    - The rest of the 60% of the stocks are currently owned by personel from the company, C.G. BOTH�N AB, and a few private investors.

    More fun:

    http://www.realtid.se/ArticlePages/2...tid785.dbp.asp

    * Dec 2007; MA is about to get listed.
    - The CEO now owns 38% and C.G. BOTH�N AB owns 28%. The 10% expansion of stocks were all sold to Bridge Investment Group.
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