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#1 Groundrunner

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Posted Yesterday, 01:35 PM

When I updated uTorrent to version 3.4.2 build 28913 (32-bit) this morning it silently installed a piece of software called EpicScale. There was no information about this during installation and I did opt out of your other bundled software.

 

EpicScale is a bitcoin miner that also purports to use your "unused processing power to change the world". It's easily noticeable by the increased CPU load when the computer is idle.

 

The file date/time on the EpicScale files matches the time of the uTorrent update, which confirms uTorrent as the source.

 

Several other users are reporting the same thing here:

 

http://www.freefixer...ale.exe-153377/

 

 

(It is possible to uninstall EpicScale through the control panel, but that does not properly remove the files from ProgramData\EpicScale.)

 



#2 adrenelized

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Posted Yesterday, 08:59 PM

yep - just did a clean install on a laptop with windows 8.1 - everything running fine - then I go to install uTorrent and now I've got this EpicScale B.S. on my system - I pay very close attention when installing freeware because of garbage apps that get lumped in with installation packages. There was never a warning about it - and it started throwing errors about "could not reach server" over and over again - no entry on the Uninstall programs page - had to use Ccleaner and ran adwcleaner as well - both found issues and removed it - the error messages have stopped. uTorrent should be ashamed for partnering with these idiots. 



#3 torrentoidus

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Posted Yesterday, 10:32 PM

I confirm this. Disgraceful and quite a pity, because uTorrent remains a great client, even in its troubled v3 outfit. I will switch because of this.


Edited by torrentoidus, Yesterday, 10:32 PM.


#4 DreadWingKnight

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Posted Yesterday, 11:03 PM

I'm getting someone to look into it
FAQ and Search - Use them.
If guides ask for info, provide it before I have to ask for it.

#5 N4TE_B

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Posted Yesterday, 11:45 PM

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We design our software to ensure that partner software downloads don't occur without approval by the user. But given your report, we’ve also double-checked this particular offer, and have determined that it cannot be installed without user approval.

 

Epic Scale is a cryptocurrency miner that uses a portion of your CPU cycles to contribute to the mining effort. A portion of the proceeds from this effort go to philanthropic initiatives. Please visit http://www.epicscale.com/ for more information. Epic Scale is a great partner for us to continue to generate revenue for the company, while contributing funds to good causes. In the future, Epic Scale plans to contribute CPU cycles to other initiatives, such as Genome mapping and other academic studies that require a great deal of processing power.

 

As Groundrunner stated, it's easy to uninstall the software via Add/Remove Programs. Per the Epic Scale CEO's response in comments on the link you shared, the only data left in ProgramData\Epicscale is a simple UUID (Unique User ID). This remains so that in case the software is reinstalled, BitTorrent would still be associated with the user. Feel free to delete this folder. You certainly won't see any persistent auto-reinstalls of the software, it will be gone from your machine for good.



#6 angrymonk111

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Posted Today, 12:30 AM

I had the same problem like the people above. 

EpicScale was installed in my computer with the latest update without my permission! 

And it does not uninstall completely via Add/Remove Programs. Neither by removing the ProgramData\Epicscale folder. 

It is disgraceful to cheat people like this. 

So, you can keep your philanthropic initiatives and loose ALL of us! 

Bye-bye utorrent!!!!



#7 nolongeruser

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Posted Today, 06:27 AM

 

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We design our software to ensure that partner software downloads don't occur without approval by the user. But given your report, we’ve also double-checked this particular offer, and have determined that it cannot be installed without user approval.

 

Epic Scale is a cryptocurrency miner that uses a portion of your CPU cycles to contribute to the mining effort. A portion of the proceeds from this effort go to philanthropic initiatives. Please visit http://www.epicscale.com/ for more information. Epic Scale is a great partner for us to continue to generate revenue for the company, while contributing funds to good causes. In the future, Epic Scale plans to contribute CPU cycles to other initiatives, such as Genome mapping and other academic studies that require a great deal of processing power.

 

As Groundrunner stated, it's easy to uninstall the software via Add/Remove Programs. Per the Epic Scale CEO's response in comments on the link you shared, the only data left in ProgramData\Epicscale is a simple UUID (Unique User ID). This remains so that in case the software is reinstalled, BitTorrent would still be associated with the user. Feel free to delete this folder. You certainly won't see any persistent auto-reinstalls of the software, it will be gone from your machine for good.

 

 

 

You said "and have determined that it cannot be installed without user approval.". Obviously, that is not the case. Thankfully I had a firewall and it detected that this shit was attempting to connect to its server. There is NO indication at all during the install process that something called EpicScale gets installed. If you insist that this is the case, please post screenshots of exactly where during the installation process the user is asked for consent.
 



#8 Groundrunner

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Posted Today, 08:35 AM

N4TE_B:

 

There was no information or user approval about EpicScale during the uTorrent update. 

 

Also, several executable files (epicscale.exe and epicscale64.exe) as well as multiple .dll files were left in ProgramData\EpicScale and sub folders after uninstalling EpicScale through the control panel.



#9 nolongeruser

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Posted Today, 09:13 AM

N4TE_B, please don't behave like the thousands of other mindless customer support people elsewhere and look at this seriously. It is just possible that what your customers are telling you might be true.




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