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EARLY CHURCH

Ambrose
Ambrose, Pseudo
Andreas
Arethas
Aphrahat
Athanasius
Augustine
Barnabus
BarSerapion
Baruch, Pseudo
Bede
Chrysostom
Chrysostom, Pseudo
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Clement, Rome
Clement, Pseudo
Cyprian
Ephraem
Epiphanes
Eusebius
Gregory
Hegesippus
Hippolytus
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Isidore
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Jerome
King Jesus
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Lactantius
Luke
Mark
Justin Martyr
Mathetes
Matthew
Melito
Oecumenius
Origen
Apostle Paul
Apostle Peter
Maurus Rabanus
Remigius
"Solomon"
Severus
St. Symeon
Tertullian
Theophylact
Victorinus

HISTORICAL PRETERISM
(Minor Fulfillment of Matt. 24/25 or Revelation in Past)

Joseph Addison
Oswald T. Allis
Thomas Aquinas
Karl Auberlen
Augustine
Albert Barnes
Karl Barth
G.K. Beale
Beasley-Murray
John Bengel
Wilhelm Bousset
John A. Broadus

David Brown
"Haddington Brown"
F.F. Bruce

Augustin Calmut
John Calvin
B.H. Carroll
Johannes Cocceius
Vern Crisler
Thomas Dekker
Wilhelm De Wette
Philip Doddridge
Isaak Dorner
Dutch Annotators
Alfred Edersheim
Jonathan Edwards

E.B. Elliott
Heinrich Ewald
Patrick Fairbairn
Js. Farquharson
A.R. Fausset
Robert Fleming
Hermann Gebhardt
Geneva Bible
Charles Homer Giblin
John Gill
William Gilpin
W.B. Godbey
Ezra Gould
Hank Hanegraaff
Hengstenberg
Matthew Henry
G.A. Henty
George Holford
Johann von Hug
William Hurte
J, F, and Brown
B.W. Johnson
John Jortin
Benjamin Keach
K.F. Keil
Henry Kett
Richard Knatchbull
Johann Lange

Cornelius Lapide
Nathaniel Lardner
Jean Le Clerc
Peter Leithart
Jack P. Lewis
Abiel Livermore
John Locke
Martin Luther

James MacDonald
James MacKnight
Dave MacPherson
Keith Mathison
Philip Mauro
Thomas Manton
Heinrich Meyer
J.D. Michaelis
Johann Neander
Sir Isaac Newton
Thomas Newton
Stafford North
Dr. John Owen
 Blaise Pascal
William W. Patton
Arthur Pink

Thomas Pyle
Maurus Rabanus
St. Remigius

Anne Rice
Kim Riddlebarger
J.C. Robertson
Edward Robinson
Andrew Sandlin
Johann Schabalie
Philip Schaff
Thomas Scott
C.J. Seraiah
Daniel Smith
Dr. John Smith
C.H. Spurgeon

Rudolph E. Stier
A.H. Strong
St. Symeon
Theophylact
Friedrich Tholuck
George Townsend
James Ussher
Wm. Warburton
Benjamin Warfield

Noah Webster
John Wesley
B.F. Westcott
William Whiston
Herman Witsius
N.T. Wright

John Wycliffe
Richard Wynne
C.F.J. Zullig

MODERN PRETERISTS
(Major Fulfillment of Matt. 24/25 or Revelation in Past)

Firmin Abauzit
Jay Adams
Luis Alcazar
Greg Bahnsen
Beausobre, L'Enfant
Jacques Bousset
John L. Bray
David Brewster
Dr. John Brown
Thomas Brown
Newcombe Cappe
David Chilton
Adam Clarke

Henry Cowles
Ephraim Currier
R.W. Dale
Gary DeMar
P.S. Desprez
Johann Eichhorn
Heneage Elsley
F.W. Farrar
Samuel Frost
Kenneth Gentry
Steve Gregg
Hugo Grotius
Francis X. Gumerlock
Henry Hammond
Hampden-Cook
Friedrich Hartwig
Adolph Hausrath
Thomas Hayne
J.G. Herder
Timothy Kenrick
J. Marcellus Kik
Samuel Lee
Peter Leithart
John Lightfoot
Benjamin Marshall
F.D. Maurice
Marion Morris
Ovid Need, Jr
Wm. Newcombe
N.A. Nisbett
Gary North
Randall Otto
Zachary Pearce
Andrew Perriman
Beilby Porteus
Ernst Renan
Gregory Sharpe
Fr. Spadafora
R.C. Sproul
Moses Stuart
Milton S. Terry
Herbert Thorndike
C. Vanderwaal
Foy Wallace
Israel P. Warren
Chas Wellbeloved
J.J. Wetstein
Richard Weymouth
Daniel Whitby
George Wilkins
E.P. Woodward
 

FUTURISTS
(Virtually No Fulfillment of Matt. 24/25 & Revelation in 1st C. - Types Only ; Also Included are "Higher Critics" Not Associated With Any Particular Eschatology)

Henry Alford
G.C. Berkower
Alan Patrick Boyd
John Bradford
Wm. Burkitt
George Caird
Conybeare/ Howson
John Crossan
John N. Darby
C.H. Dodd
E.B. Elliott
G.S. Faber
Jerry Falwell
Charles G. Finney
J.P. Green Sr.
Murray Harris
Thomas Ice

Benjamin Jowett
John N.D. Kelly

Hal Lindsey
John MacArthur
William Miller
Robert Mounce

Eduard Reuss

J.A.T. Robinson
George Rosenmuller
D.S. Russell
George Sandison
C.I. Scofield
Dr. John Smith

Norman Snaith
"Televangelists"
Thomas Torrance
Jack/Rex VanImpe
John Walvoord

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PRETERIST UNIVERSALISM | MODERN PRETERISM | PRETERIST IDEALISM

Dr. John F. Walvoord
(1910-2002)

PREMILLENIAL DISPENSATIONALIST

"Such a temple will be rebuilt and these prophecies literally fulfilled. If upon this revival of their sacrificial system such a future temple is suddenly desecrated, it would constitute a sign to the nation of Israel of the coming time of great trouble just preceding the second coming."

  • "John F. Walvoord’s Matthew: Thy Kingdom Come (Moody, 1974), says nothing about oikoumene and its possible relation to an A.D. 70 fulfillment, and there is no discussion of verse 14 in his The Prophecy Knowledge Handbook which claims to include "all the prophecies of Scriptures" (Victor, 1990)" (The Gospel Preached to All the World  - Gary DeMar )

"A more respected approach is known as the preterist view.."

"He was dean of all twentieth-century prophecy scholars.  As president and chancellor of Dallas Theological Seminary for over 50 years, he inspired and trained more ministers, teachers, and Christian college and seminary professors to teach  the truth about prophecy than any other person.  His voluminous writings on prophetic subjects were always true to Scripture and easily understandable by all.  Through his writings he leaves able defenses of dispensationalism, the literal interpretation of prophecy, the rapture of the church before the Tribulation, and the differences between Israel and the church past, present and future, for future generations.  The church of Jesus Christ enjoys a growing expectancy for our Savior's return because of John Walvoord's life.    He was a giant among men; physically, spiritually, and intellectually he "finished his course, he kept the faith," and was an example to all as a Christian, a loving husband, and a beloved father and grandfather.  Consequently, there is laid up for him in heaven a crown of righteousness which the Lord will give him in that day for he "loved His appearance" and did everything he could to help others share that love and anticipation. We are honored to call him friend and mentor." - Dr. Tim LaHaye, Dr. Thomas Ice, and all the contributors to (End Times Controversy)

(On Revelation)
 "Attempts at its exposition are almost without number, yet there continues the widest divergence of interpretation." (The Revelation of Jesus Christ (Chicago: Moody, 7)

"Because of its unusual character, Revelation has been approached from a number of interpretive principles, some of which raise serious questions concerning its value as divine authoritative revelation.

The allegorical or nonliteral approach. This form of interpretation was offered by the Alexandrian school of theology in the third and fourth centuries. It regards the entire Bible as an extensive allegory to be interpreted in a nonliteral sense. The allegorical interpretation of the Bible was later restricted largely to prophecy about the Millennium by Augustine (354-430), who interpreted Revelation as a chronicle of the spiritual conflict between God and Satan being fulfilled in the present Church Age. A liberal variation of this in modern times considers Revelation simply as a symbolic presentation of the concept of God’s ultimate victory.

The preterist approach. A more respected approach is known as the preterist view which regards Revelation as a symbolic picture of early church conflicts which have been fulfilled. This view denies the future predictive quality of most of the Book of Revelation. In varying degrees this view combines the allegorical and symbolic interpretation with the concept that Revelation does not deal with specific future events. Still another variation of the preterist view regards Revelation as setting forth principles of divine dealings with man, without presenting specific events.

The historical approach. A popular view stemming from the Middle Ages is the historical approach which views Revelation as a symbolic picture of the total church history of the present Age between Christ’s first and second comings. This view was advanced by Luther, Isaac Newton, Elliott, and many expositors of the postmillennial school of interpretation and has attained respectability in recent centuries. Its principal problem is that seldom do two interpreters interpret a given passage as referring to the same event. Each interpreter tends to find its fulfillment in his generation. Many have combined the historical interpretation with aspects of other forms of interpretation in order to bring out a devotional or spiritual teaching from the book. The preceding methods of interpretation tend to deny a literal future Millennium and also literal future events in the Book of Revelation.

The futuristic approach. The futuristic approach has been adopted by conservative scholars, usually premillenarians, who state that chapters 4-22 deal with events that are yet future today. The content of Revelation 4-18 describes the last seven years preceding the second coming of Christ and particularly emphasizes the Great Tribulation, occurring in the last three and one-half years before His coming.

Objections to this view usually stem from theological positions opposed to premillennialism. The charge is often made that the Book of Revelation would not have been a comfort to early Christians or understood by them if it were largely futuristic. Adherents of the futuristic school of interpretation insist, on the contrary, that future events described in Revelation bring comfort and reassurance to Christians who in the nature of their faith regard their ultimate victory as future. The futuristic interpretation, however, is demanding of the expositor as it requires him to reduce to tangible prophetic events the symbolic presentations which characterize the book." (The Book of Revelation)
 

(On Daniel 9:24,27)
"The usefulness of this passage is enhanced by the fact that Christ draws from it in His Olivet Discourse (cf. Matt. 24:15) which is clearly related to the A.D. 70 destruction of the Temple (cf. Matt. 24:1-2)." (John F. Walvoord on Daniel 9:24-27, The Revelation of Jesus Christ, p. 35)

 

Critical Futurist Commentaries


(On Matthew 24:15)
"Such a temple will be rebuilt and these prophecies literally fulfilled. If upon this revival of their sacrificial system such a future temple is suddenly desecrated, it would constitute a sign to the nation of Israel of the coming time of great trouble just preceding the second coming."

(On a The Thousand Year Day)
"the expression 'the day of the Lord' is an extensive time period which includes not only the tribulation and the judgments taking place at the second advent, but which includes also the entire millennial reign of Christ.." (The Millennial Kingdom, p. 273)

"Today we see precisely this setup: Russia about to move on the Middle East; Israel in its place, regathered; the wealth, the spoil of the nations there; the need for possessing the Middle East perfectly obvious to Russia; and the only thing deterring her the fear of our military might." (Moody Monthly, 1959)


(On a Zionism)
"Israel will be a glorious nation, protected from her enemies, exalted above the Gentiles. . . . " (The Millennial Kingdom (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 1959), p. 136.)


(On a Seperate New Covenant for Jews)
"Most premillenarians (Darby excepted) would agree that a new covenant has been provided for the church, but not the new covenant for Israel." (The Millennial Kingdom, p. 214)

(On the Olivet Discouse - Preterist Interpretation "unjustified")
"This portion of the Olivet discourse is crucial to understanding what Christ reveals about the end of the age. The tendency to explain away this section or ignore it constitutes the major difficulty in the interpretation of the Olivet discourse. In the background is the tendency of liberals to discount prophecy and the practice of some conservatives of not interpreting prophecy literally.   If this prediction means what it says, it is referring to a specific time of great trouble which immediately precedes the second coming of Christ.   As such, the prediction of the great tribulation is 'the sign' of the second coming, and those who see the sign will be living in the generation which will see the second coming itself.  Accordingly, the interpretation of G. Campbell Morgan, which relates this to the fall of Jerusalem in AD 70, and the view of Alfred Plummer, which relates it to the second coming of Christ as if fulfilled in the first century, are unjustified interpretations, if the passage is taken seriously." (Matthew)

WHAT OTHERS HAVE SAID

Dr. Ben Witherington (1992)
As I write this introduction, apocalyptic speculations are being fueled not only by the war in the Persian Gulf, but also by various popular treatments of eschatology from a Dispensational perspective, such as J.F. Walvoord's reissued and updated version of his 1974 book, Armageddon, Oil and the Middle East Crisis.  At last report Walvoord's book had sold over one million copies in its 1990 edition.  This shows the great interest in things eschatological among the general population, especially in a time of crisis, but it may also serve as a reminder to the scholarly community that it has too long neglected such subjects." (Jesus, Paul and the End of the World: A Comparative Study in New Testament Eschatology, p. 11)

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Date:
04 Dec 2003
Time:
16:41:57

Comments

I have several friends that went to Dallas seminary. They no longer hold to dispensationalism. They also told me that Walvoord said to them that there is no new testament passage that can prove or defend the pre-trib rature of the church. dliswanson


Date:
15 Jan 2004
Time:
08:56:42

Comments

this website is great! my friends and i have been researching revelation and comparing it to todays world, some stories in Genesis can also be parables comparing to revelation, anyway...in light of whats going on in our world today, do you think the time is as close as it seems. 'cause that is how it seems to me. "This world is not my home, I'm just a-passin through, we wont always be here" :-) thanks, sam


Date:
14 Mar 2004
Time:
02:38:14

Comments

ABRAHAM WAS OT CALLED OUT OF UR OF THE CHALDEES Dr. Walvoord writes: "Abraham had been called to leave his home and relatives in Ur of the Chaldeans and go to a land that God would show him" (Major Bible Prophecies, p 40). That is not biblically correct. Abraham was not called out of Ur, he was BROUGHT out. Later he was CALLED out of Haran, some 500 miles North of Ur. Verse 4 of Genesis 12 indicates that Abraham obeyed God immediately. Dr. Walvoord made another mistake. He wrote, "The fact that Abraham and his father started out for the promised land is evidence that though they may have participated in the worship of pagan deities of the time, at this important juncture in their life they recognized the true God and hencforth obeyed and worshiped him" (Major Bible Propheices, p 40). If that were true, it would well serve to reinforce the dispensational teaching that Abraham was in "partial disobedience" when God called him, and God withheld the promises to Abraham until he finally decided to obey (in like manner, it is expected that God will fulfill the covenants to "temporarily disobedient Israel" when they eventually decide to obey God). But not once does the Bible say that Abraham's father ever worshiped the true God, nor does it say that Abraham ever worshiped pagan deities. Dr. Walvoord either misread the Bible, or else deliberately protrayed conjecture as truth. Mac www.biblebits.com/abraham.htm


Date:
30 Mar 2004
Time:
11:30:54

Comments

Dr. Walvoord, On Daniel 9:24,27, in his book, The Revelation of Jesus Christ, page 35: "The usefulness of this passage is enhanced by the fact that Christ draws from it in His Olivet Discourse (cf. Matt. 24:15) which is clearly related to the A.D. 70 destruction of the Temple (cf. Matt. 24:1-2)." Dr. Walvoord is correct in that Matt.24:15 is related to the A.D.70 destruction of the Temple, but Jesus did not draw on Daniel 9:24-27 in His Olivet discourse. Verse 27 has the word "abomination," and this is how Dan. 9:27 reads: "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate." Here Daniel predicts that Jesus would confirm God's covenant with Israel for seven years, but half way through that period He was crucified. Then Daniel jumps ahead some forty years to A.D.70, predicting the desolation that would come upon the house of David BECAUSE of the overspreading abominations being committed by the holy people throughout the holy land. These "abominations" were, I believe, committed by the people in rejecting God's covenent, thus were an ongoing thing. The "abomination that maketh desolate," on the other hand, was the sudden appearance of something abominable, such as the heathen Roman Army, setting itself up in or near the temple grounds, preparing to invade the city. It's just a thought..... Mac Machovsky..... www.biblebits.com //all over the here Jesus told His people to escape quickly when they see the abomination that maketh desolate stand in the holy place. That is not the abomination Jesus was speaking of.


Date:
28 May 2004
Time:
08:58:49

Comments

I have read and hold Dr. John F. Walvoord's book, "Major Bible Prophecies." On the publication page there are five well stated words, 'Formost Interpreter of Biblical Prophecy.' I cannot say it any better than this. Dr. Walvoord wrote the introduction to another great book called, "Things To Come" by Dr. J. Dwight Pentecost, which I highly recommend as answering all the questions about eschatology. I have always greatly admired Dr. John F. Walvoord; thank the Lord for his book on how to rightly divide the Word of truth especially as to future prophetic events in the Lord God's calendar of time. Thank you Lord for this mighty man of God! Dr. I. Ray Berrian, Th.D. {rab3@Lehigh.edu}


Date:
11 Aug 2004
Time:
17:48:01

Comments

Walvoord writes regarding the historicist approach to interpreting Revelation, "Its principal problem is that seldom do two interpreters interpret a given passage as referring to the same event." I think his premillenial approach has similar problem. In fact, from one decade to the next, any given premillenialist will often not interpret a given passage as referring to the same event!


Date:
12 Aug 2004
Time:
08:59:04

Comments

To the comment by dliswanson, I would like opinion of the passage in Genesis 5:24 regarding the taking of Enoch by God. Enoch did not die a physical death, and if you read the account of Elijah, as he was taken to Heaven in a flaming chariot, it should be seen that he did not die physically either. All of that to say this, consider 1 Thess. 4:13-18, and 1 Corinth. 15:51-58, and I think that there is enough evidence therein to support the Rapture of the true believers(the Bride of Christ Jesus). I submit all of this before the Tribulation preceeding The Second Coming of our Lord Jesus.


Date:
25 Dec 2004
Time:
10:50:03

Comments

ALL YOU RELIGIOUS ZEALOTS WITH YOUR FOGGY BOTTOM NOTIONS HAVE CAUSED NOTHING BUT CONFUSION MISUNDERSTANDING AND TERRIBLE STRIFE AMONG MODERATE MEN OF GOOD WILL..JESUS CHRISTS MISSION ON EARTH WAS FOR JEWS, BY JEWS AND TO JEWS..THE CHOSEN PEOPLE.IF NOT FOR PAUL, WHO LAID THE ACTUAL FRAMEWORK AND IDEOLOGY OF CHRISTIANITY..NO ONE WOULD HAVE EVER KNOWN OF JESUS CHRIST.....


Date: 29 Jul 2005
Time: 13:28:17

Comments:

"...the preterist view which regards Revelation as a symbolic picture of early church conflicts which have been fulfilled..." I just reread Revelations. Find it hard (from Rev. 4 on) to see that Rev. was fulfilled as preterists apparently claim. Where are the massive, Star Wars like cosmic worldwide deaths, locustlike creatures, 4 horsemen, etc? Even WWII was a minor scuffle compared with Rev....

Date: 01 Mar 2006
Time: 20:54:28

Comments:

"I just reread Revelations. Find it hard (from Rev. 4 on) to see that Rev. was fulfilled as preterists apparently claim. Where are the massive, Star Wars like cosmic worldwide deaths, locustlike creatures, 4 horsemen, etc? Even WWII was a minor scuffle compared with Rev...."

Somebody needs to read The Jewish War by Josephus. After reading that, go read a few other books of the Apocalypic genre. After that little exercise, it gets much easier to understand the Preterist point of view. -- a premillenial dispensationist at DTS. (Not holding to a belief in preterism is no good excuse for not understanding it)


Date: 07 Jun 2006
Time: 08:49:46

Comments:

[quote]They also told me that Walvoord said to them that there is no new testament passage that can prove or defend the pre-trib rature of the church. dliswanson[/quote]

This is hear say.People tried making similiar claims of Ironside. And to top it off Walvoord nor Ironside are physically here to defend themselves from such things. Walvoord did defend the Pre Trib rapture with verses in his book The Rapture Question. So evidently either you or your friend is not being truthful. And implies Walvoord may have intentionally taught a lie. In view of the books he has written on the subject I conclude the statement is a lie.


Date: 28 Jan 2007
Time: 21:05:04

Comments:

A great mistake is being made by many highly repected theologians of today. It is this: They make the "rapture" and the Second Coming one event. This makes it impossible for them to talk about a coming event called the rapture! All they can talk about is the Second Coming!

The word rapture simply refers to what takes place **suddenly** when the Trumpet is blown as given in 1 Thess. 4:

1Th 4:15 According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord (into the clouds in the air) will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep.

1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.

1Th 4:17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them **in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.** And so we will be with the Lord forever.

1Th 4:18 Therefore **encourage each other** with these words.

(BTW the Second Coming is a dreadful event; not an encouraging one. Here it is: 2 Thess 1: [7] And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, [8] In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: [9] Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
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In the Rapture event Jesus comes down, but does not touch the ground with His feet. The born again dead once, *along with* the born again living shoot up to meet Him in the air.

The other event generally named the Second Coming happens when Jesus touches down (Zech 14:4) on the Mount of Olives from where He took off to accomplish what we read in John 14: 1-3.

The Rapture is an **unknown** event, even to the born again followers of Jesus Christ.

The Second Coming is a KNOWN event which the whole world will see.

Rev.1
[7] Behold, he cometh *with clouds*; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

(With clouds probably is a cloud of angels as in the Cloud of Witnesses in Hebrews 12:1)
 


Date: 06 Feb 2007
Time: 11:12:24

Comments:

Listen to Walvoord's Q & A with Chuck Missler in the Missler series "The Five Horsemen of the Apoc."
Walvoord's views are clearly stated in his own words from his own lips. Pre-Trib. w/ N.T. verses to back it up. Download torrents from Missler and you will get a very clear picture with scripture to go with it.

Rick, Miami


Date: 18 Jul 2010
Time: 21:19:20

Your Comments:

I have seen to many outrightscripture twisting in Walvoords books. Dwight D pentecost as well. I only ask for the scripture proofs of a third Temple to be rebuilt in the scriptures as thus far I can only find a misunderstanding of their Eschatology. Not to mention the more evidences found most recently along with an understamdinmg of when Johns Revelation was written. We cant assume that one reference through out all the church age s comprable to the more than 9 fiondings of an earlier dating. No blatant Christan wars ever took place within Domitians time period, But that which can be found is that of Neros time. I pray that Dispies will find there way out of being that sect who was turned over to a stumbling block namely John Nelson Darby and the likes, never has the Church been so bafooned by so little as to make themselves swindeled into the time of which She the church has to recooporate from. At no other time in Her History has the Church been so overtaken by not accepting truth to their own destruction. It will be found out throut the annals of time that this was that time when the Church Herself was so wrong for such a lenthy amount of time, now going on 180 yrs. Sooner or later hopfully not because Israel no longer exists Christians will have to admitt this fallicy for adventually the doctrine will run out of generations being tenable to our timeline of a generation, for even now they admittingly say its now a 100 Generation since 1948. Pray for their openess to truth and getting over the time inwhich She the Church shall be tantamount to the Jewish first century citizens awaiting their Messiah. Our Savior is KING NOW

 


Date: 18 Aug 2010
Time: 20:04:57

Your Comments:

Concern the rapture, The Apostle Paul gave the best key to the timing of this great event which we call the rapture. 1ST,Cor, 15, 23-24 Christ the first fruits Mat,27, 52-53,= then they that are Christ's At his coming, the rapture,1st 15,51-52. then cometh the end, great white throne judgement.Rev,20,11-13.
If there are only three phases of the resurrection, the prople in Rev, 20,v4 that had been heheaded for the witness of Jesus, and the Word of God and had not worshiped the beast, shall reign with Christ a thousand yrs.These had to be in the rapture, which is the second phase of the order of three resurrections. So the rapture can not take place untill after the reign of antiohrist,
Cnrist the first fruits,afterwards they that are Christ's at his coming, then cometh the end.
1st,Cor,15,23-24 post trib, rather than pre,trib.
SERIOUS IS THIS TRUTH, CHECK IT OUT FOR YOUR SELF.

 


Date: 23 Oct 2010
Time: 13:29:06

Your Comments:

Matt 24:32,33 Now learn this lesson from the fig tree.As soon asits twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you KNOW that summer is near.Even so when you see ALL these things, you know that it is near,right at the door.

You guys seem more interested in criticizing walvoord and stroking each others ego than you are about being ready for His return.You have explained away all the signs of the times and take comfort in your system of theology rather than in His prophetic word and sovreignty.Good luck with that.


Date: 23 Oct 2010
Time: 13:37:25

Your Comments:

I think you should spend more time praying for wisdom and studying the scriptures than gaining comfort in your obsession of finding errors in the beliefs of other men regarding mysteries.You take pride in showing up men who have respect as though you could piggyback off their efforts. Where is the eager readiness of Christs return in this?


Date: 23 Oct 2010
Time: 13:29:06

Your Comments:

Matt 24:32,33 Now learn this lesson from the fig tree.As soon asits twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you KNOW that summer is near.Even so when you see ALL these things, you know that it is near,right at the door.

You guys seem more interested in criticizing walvoord and stroking each others ego than you are about being ready for His return.You have explained away all the signs of the times and take comfort in your system of theology rather than in His prophetic word and sovreignty.Good luck with that.


Date: 23 Oct 2010
Time: 13:37:25

Your Comments:

I think you should spend more time praying for wisdom and studying the scriptures than gaining comfort in your obsession of finding errors in the beliefs of other men regarding mysteries.You take pride in showing up men who have respect as though you could piggyback off their efforts. Where is the eager readiness of Christs return in this?


Date: 23 Oct 2010
Time: 13:37:25

Your Comments:

I think you should spend more time praying for wisdom and studying the scriptures than gaining comfort in your obsession of finding errors in the beliefs of other men regarding mysteries.You take pride in showing up men who have respect as though you could piggyback off their efforts. Where is the eager readiness of Christs return in this?


 

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