"We can and should pray for the restoration of his mind, but to debate with him publicly will almost certainly drive him deeper into this heresy. He will feel compelled to defend himself in public. Let him go in peace. It is not our God-given task to confront him at this point. That is for his local church to do."  (North on Chilton)

"I recommend the immediate public recantation and personal repentance of Russell's theology (Preterism). Barring this, I recommend the heretic's excommunication by his church's judicial body.  The elders should allow the accused member to identify the heresy for which he is then excommunicated."

"Church officers who learn of any member's commitment to the doctrine of "full preterism" have an obligation to help this member clarify his or her thinking, and either become fully consistent with the full-preterist position or else fully abandon it. The member should be brought before the church's session or other disciplinary body and asked the following six questions in writing:"

"the member must also be asked to sign an affirmation of Chapter XXXIII of the Westminster Confession of Faith and answer 90 of the Larger Catechism. This signed statement constitutes a formal rejection of the "full preterist" position. The member must be told in advance that this signed statement can be shown to others at the discretion of the session. If the member refuses to sign such a statement under these conditions, the elders should continue the disciplinary process."

Ecclesiastical Megalomania "After this speech, David Chilton subsequently suffered a heart attack from which he initially recovered and eventually died. One wonders if the terror and desperation he felt in the Tyler Church contributed to his health problems. After his heart attack, Chilton and his lecture were viciously attacked by Gary North, the chief financier of the Tyler Church, both publicly and privately. This editor was threatened in writing with "destruction" by North for publicizing Chilton’s speech. Several former members of the Tyler Church contacted the editor after we published this Review, saying that Chilton had not told the half of it. They were still frightened of the leaders of the Tyler Church years after they had left."

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Date:

09 Sep 2003

Time:

05:32:08

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a coward who will not fight the holocaust of the unborn and rails on those who do not half the man that paul hill is.. joe pavone

Date:

06 Oct 2003

Time:

20:51:28

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What does any of this (except perhaps the first five quotes) have to do with proving or disproving partial or full preterism? Its only purpose, like much of the rest of this website, seem to be ad homenim argumentation, simply trying to discredit the author by saying "look what else he believes". Darren Camp XnomoslogosX@Xyahoo.comX 

Date:

28 Oct 2003

Time:

23:11:02

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I don't understand why everyone is beating around the bush and trying to be diplomatic here! Someone must come right out and say it... Gary North is clearly an intellectual giant and a social/relational midget. Like so many brilliant Christian thinkers before him he is ever so willing to sacrifice agape on the altar of truth. If error were ever the issue then we would have be lost! While we all strive to represent God, God's nature, and God's Word accurately and purely we should be ever mindful of the hard reality of sin and the fall. In every Christian - Mr. North included - there will always be a mix of truth and error won't there? Are we not considering ourselves better than Jesus and setting up a new idol - our own intellect and understanding of the truth - if we can't accept and befriend with those who are in error (be they Christian or not)? If Christ loved us when we were yet His enemies how can we do less? Dr. Francis Schaeffer wrote that "The mark of the Christian is love." From what I have seen and directly experienced, Gary North is missing the mark.... BADLY missing the mark. May God richly bless us one and all!

Date:

06 Nov 2003

Time:

15:16:00

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I am not an expert on North despite having subscribed to his financial newsletters over the years. However, having recently read a paper in which North speaks poorly of David Hunt, I suggest North maya not be as bright as he seems to think he is. My partner, Frank Van Lohn, deceased, first knew North when Gary was a student at UCLA and approached Gary's recommendations with a most careful eye. lbuhler@juno.com

Date:

07 Jan 2004

Time:

06:27:22

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My dearest Dr. Gary North, I have been trying to reach you by e-mail but your email on ICE (free books) is not working. I have your writings about Theology of Christian Resistance, Covenantal Theology, Divorce and Remarriage. I agree with you and want to start a covenant church in Pakistan. I also want to be fully educated according to ICE. Since I fully agree. I want your more literature and your guidance. Please contance me: aftab62pk@yahoo.com. Believe me I am anxiously waiting for your response. May God in Jesus Christ bless you all the more.

Date:

14 Jan 2004

Time:

21:48:10

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Dear Dr. North I just finished your book "last train out" and subsequently stumbled acrossed this web site. I would be interested in finding some of the books referenced in "last train out". I am fascinated that you are a preterist, and perhaps a believer. please respond if able, Vance vwashkow@juno.com

Date:

31 May 2004

Time:

18:19:10

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Could it be that Gary North and the rise of Right-Wing Christianity in the United States in particular will lead to a "new world order" government run by "Christians". Could it be that the scripture "they will think they are doing God a service by killing you" is speaking of this group??? Wouldn't it make sense that the "AntiChrist" would be a man pretending to be a Christian leader and would have a Christian army of followers. Just wondering???

Date:

03 Aug 2004

Time:

05:29:43

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Yes, North is correct.

Date:

03 Aug 2004

Time:

05:34:48

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North is correct in so many ways where does one begin? Firstly, many misconstrue or rather pit Truth v. Love. Telling the Truth IS love. Those that sugar coat the truth are not loving at all. Also, the quotes above are taken out of context in every situation. Nonetheless, the truths do come through. I suggest those on the list actually get ahold of some North books and actually read them all the way through. Then go through the footnotes. North, unlike most modernist, evangelical writers, actually meticulously footnotes AND places the footnotes on the pages where you can easily check them out. Be careful trying to spar with this guy. North is probably the closest to Lewis or Shaeffer of any writer out there.

Date:

03 Aug 2004

Time:

05:38:38

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I'd like to answer the following question, "Could it be that Gary North and the rise of Right-Wing Christianity in the United States in particular will lead to a "new world order" government run by "Christians". Could it be that the scripture "they will think they are doing God a service by killing you" is speaking of this group??? Wouldn't it make sense that the "AntiChrist" would be a man pretending to be a Christian leader and would have a Christian army of followers. Just wondering???" with an unequivocal NO. Whoever you are you need to study before you yap. Firstly, North amongst all the writers would put politics far down the list. Secondly, the "right wing" that you describe generally supports centralized government whilst the North-types (Chilton, DeMar, Grant, etc.) support limited government such as our forefathers had in mind. You are so far off the track that your paranoia is clouding your sight.

Date:

14 Aug 2004

Time:

17:31:10

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Gary North, what a joke. This man has been rejected even by R. J. Rushdoony, the very founder of Christian Reconstructionism. North believes that Jesus would send a man to hell for stopping a killer (by means of force). Gary, you don't speak for all Reconstructionists, Postmillennarinas, or Calvinists when you condemned Paul Hill. I plan on refuting your letter, which doesn't even have the facts straight. As Pavone said, North isn't half the man that heroes like Paul Hill are. You seem to not understand the difference between retributive vigilante justice and premeditated defensive action. You are a coward, and a liar. ALOC

Date:

14 Sep 2004

Time:

13:38:02

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Yes, I plead for help. I am trying to recover a lost message on your alternate higher education approach and I cannot find it. Can you tell me to recover it. Thank you. (this is the; work for experience in chosen field and get degree on-line) jerrybop@mybluelight.com

Date:

12 Dec 2004

Time:

09:12:43

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hi i hope you are the same personn who wrote on the degree programs if you are please grt back to me , am living in germany and i want to study through correspondance , because this is the only way that i could manage , i have a six month baby and i want to have a degree in in english by doing it at home , afterhowever reading your report in the IO journel of which i subribe , i wonder whether i should preceed with this plan, what adice would you give me , my email is cathymaina2000@yahoo.com , i will be very grateful to hear from you

Date:

15 Dec 2004

Time:

13:40:04

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Gary North isn't a Christian. He's a dogmatic with a dangerously narrow view on God's creation and God's people. He refutes the Law of Jesus with Mosaic Law then ignore the important tenants of Mosaic Law. Remember...God so loved THE WORLD, he gave his only begotten son. It doesn't say God so loved the Dispensationalist or God so loved those who try to micromanage Him...the Bible says "the world." Maybe if we also remember the parable of the two wealthy men, and who obeyed God and who loved his money so much he turned away from God then Mr. North can remember morals and ethics aren't always the same.

Date:

29 Jan 2005

Time:

10:06:56

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It was said: "Gary North, what a joke. This man has been rejected even by R. J. Rushdoony..." Disassociating himself from Rushdoony is reflective of his orthodoxy, not indicative of some joke. Rushdoony is hardly reflective of the summation of reconstructive thought historically or presently. The guy was living in open sin by his refusal to put himself under ecclesiastic sanctions. Rushdoony may have been well read, but his writings are a tad simplistic.

Date:

29 Jan 2005

Time:

10:08:13

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Date: 21 Jul 2006
Time: 18:04:11

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Mr North reminds me of the pharisees, stiff necked, dogmatic and blinded by their own vision of how things were. They missed Christ on His first visit. I am reminded of the parable of the fig tree and how people who are preterists cannot discern the signs of the times. They are abundant and obvious. From Israels return to the land, to the alignment of the Mid-East nation and their Russian connection, to the proliferation of Nuclear Bombs and the current tensions in Israel.
In my spirit I can feel the closeness of the Lord and it cannot be too long before we see Him.
I pray that Mr North sees it too otherwise we will just have to explain it to him on the way up.
My God richly bless you all. Maranatha.

Date: 13 May 2007
Time: 20:24:51

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Frankly,
North is a brilliant, egotistical nerd!!!
He never makes a mistake... just ask him. BUT he surely did miss it on Y2K predictions, and we who listened to him are still suffering financially while North with his and wife's millions go merrily on their way. Pity.
Win Peters