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kettu ([info]kettu_nainen) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-06-18 13:58:00


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Entry tags:fandom: supernatural

A few good wankers
One of the stars of the Supernatural, Jensen Ackles, has recently been appearing in a stage production of A Few Good Men, and there has been some controversy in the fandom over the taking of photographs and video recordings in the theatre. Staff of the theatre have made appeals in fandom communities for people to leave their cameras at home, and most fans have complied. Some, however, have been less biddable.

Anteka, a well-known and generally well-liked member of the fandom, discovers that one fan has indeed posted photos. She encourages her friends to go and speak their minds. Said post is deleted, but said fan, [info]usmc75 posts a reply to [info]anteka in which there is some wankery.

A few days later, [info]anteka makes a new post, this one regarding recordings of the performance taken by ckll, a fan of similar stature if flist size is anything to go by, possibly possessed of a tinhat with regard to the offscreen relationship between Ackles and his costar, Jared Padalecki, and co-maintainer of dean_sam, a large SPN community. This post is deleted, too, but [info]ckll shows up in the comments to debate theatre etiquette and who is a real friend of fandom.

Finally, it seems further shenanigans may have ensued. Sadly, it seems once more SPN fandom has a bad case of itchy delete finger.



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[info]onaga
2007-06-18 01:59 pm UTC (link)
Your "new post" link goes to the dean_sam comm profile, just so you know.

And... maybe it's because I am a big filthy media pirate, but [info]anteka is coming across as a raging bitch here. It's surprising by contrast - when Ewan McGregor was in Guys and Dolls in London a couple years ago, people snuck pictures and took videos and recordings, and the fandom reaction was overwhelmingly positive (at least, on the boards I was on). No finger-wagging scolding or anthing.

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[info]abbymouse
2007-06-18 02:33 pm UTC (link)
Not overwhlemingly positive? :(

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That just boggles me
[info]karmakaze
2007-06-18 02:48 pm UTC (link)
I've seen folks taking cameraphone pictures at concerts too (usually waving their bright screens in the air both blocking the view and shining the bright light into the eyes of everyone behind them) and I cannot fathom how they don't realize how obnoxious that behavior is. Is their entitlement to a souvenir photo somehow more important than the entitlement of everyone else's right to see the show they paid for?

In this case, the fans have clearly been obnoxious enough that the theatre staff had to publicly ask them to stop. If some stalker-fangirl wants to snap candids at the stage door, well, it's creepy, but their business. When they decide that their fangirl needs give them the right to ruin the show for other theater-goers, I have no sympathy whatsoever.

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Re: That just boggles me - [info]sidewinder, 2007-06-18 03:39 pm UTC
Re: That just boggles me - [info]tez, 2007-06-18 07:06 pm UTC
Re: That just boggles me - [info]onaga, 2007-06-18 06:12 pm UTC
Re: That just boggles me - [info]karmakaze, 2007-06-18 07:14 pm UTC
Re: That just boggles me - [info]sepiamagpie, 2007-06-19 01:21 am UTC
Re: That just boggles me - [info]hearsawho, 2007-06-19 04:07 am UTC
Re: That just boggles me - [info]sepiamagpie, 2007-06-19 04:43 am UTC
Re: That just boggles me - [info]hearsawho, 2007-06-19 04:44 am UTC
Re: That just boggles me - [info]sepiamagpie, 2007-06-19 04:44 am UTC
Re: That just boggles me - [info]hearsawho, 2007-06-19 05:00 am UTC
Re: That just boggles me - [info]sepiamagpie, 2007-06-19 05:04 am UTC
Re: That just boggles me - [info]lysana, 2007-06-20 01:30 am UTC
Re: That just boggles me - [info]sepiamagpie, 2007-06-20 01:33 am UTC
Re: That just boggles me - [info]lysana, 2007-06-20 07:52 am UTC
Re: That just boggles me - [info]aposiopetic, 2007-06-18 11:22 pm UTC
Re: That just boggles me - [info]karmakaze, 2007-06-19 12:16 am UTC
Re: That just boggles me - [info]sidewinder, 2007-06-19 02:11 am UTC
Re: That just boggles me - [info]nightwalker, 2007-06-18 11:34 pm UTC

[info]duraniedrama
2007-06-18 04:20 pm UTC (link)
Well, yes, she IS being a raging bitch, but that doesn't necessarily invalidate her point. Taking pictures at a live theater production--especially when asked not to by the theater--is crude, rude and impolite. The fact that it makes fangirls happy does not magically make it okay.

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(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2007-06-18 05:23 pm UTC
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dracothelizard
2007-06-18 02:13 pm UTC (link)
There were quite some links to this hullabaloo on metafandom, which mostly boiled down to 'but we pirate the television episodes too! How is that different from the theatre?', which possibly ignores the bit where other theatre-goers might be inconvenienced by camera's flashing.

But on the bright side, SPN wank NOT about the fanfic!

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[info]isntitironic
2007-06-18 03:58 pm UTC (link)
Asking fangirls not to take photographs in theatres is like asking your roomie to pay rent on time. It doesn't accomplish anything, and the whining you get out of it is actually more obnoxious than the behavior you were originally complaining about.

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[info]mouseybrown
2007-06-18 04:24 pm UTC (link)
In the UK, Richard Griffiths (Uncle Vernon in the Harry Potter movies) stopped the show when some asshat took a phone call during his performance. He's also been known to stop performances when cameras go odd. So has Michael Gambon (Dumbledore in the HP movies). And Ian McKellen's happy to smack a bitch if someone does the same during his performances.

I don't care what fandom you're in - it's inconsiderate and distracting to film or take photos of a live performance. Anyone caught should be thrown out of the theatre. And then lynched ...

Ok - maybe not lynched. But definitely thrown out.

*stops wanking*

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Me no type so good - [info]mouseybrown, 2007-06-18 04:25 pm UTC
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[info]esorlehcar
2007-06-18 04:31 pm UTC (link)
[info]ckll is a raging lunatic, don't get me wrong, but I am really fond of [info]anteka's claims that SPN fandom is "blessed" to have her and that the SPN cast and crew all admire her tireless work on their behalf.

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[info]guilty_as_sin
2007-06-18 04:42 pm UTC (link)
A wank that makes me want to slap everyone involved? A+! This is almost as good as the fake-my-death-on-LJ wanks that pop up every few months.

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(no subject) - [info]doomsday, 2007-06-19 10:41 am UTC
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[info]sisterelwood
2007-06-18 05:10 pm UTC (link)
Entitlement whores everywhere I look on this one. In this corner we have [info]usmc75 the girl who JUST DOESN'T GET IT. In the other corner we [info]ckll who is fixin' for a cat fight. And finally, over in this corner, weighing in at pure psycho-fan levels we have [info]anteka who believes fandom is lucky to have her because she is cleaning up fandom one fangirl at a time and martyring herself at the same time with her ulcers!

What a grand wank and I don't even watch the show. Bravo!

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[info]airawyn
2007-06-18 05:40 pm UTC (link)
I love typos.

I swear Theater is the only time where the costumer is NOT ALWAYS RIGHT. - loves_bitch

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(no subject) - [info]nekoneko, 2007-06-18 05:54 pm UTC
I have an icon for this but can't find it - [info]negativecosine, 2007-06-18 07:55 pm UTC
Re: I have an icon for this but can't find it - [info]moriath, 2007-06-18 09:32 pm UTC
Re: I have an icon for this but can't find it - [info]negativecosine, 2007-06-19 12:14 am UTC

[info]out_bottle
2007-06-18 06:23 pm UTC (link)
/theater worker rant starts/

EVERYONE in this wank needs to be thrown from the balcony. But this is why we lay down the law even at our kids shows, 'cause it's part of their theater education.

No Photography! No Cell Phones!
No yelling back at the actors!
THIS IS NOT YOUR FRIGGIN' LIVING ROOM!

*mops up*

Well, OK, we don't say "frigging"...

/theater worker rant ends/

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(no subject) - [info]manasseh, 2007-06-18 10:38 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]melannen, 2007-06-20 04:00 am UTC
*disclaimer: poster blows at historical accuracy* - [info]out_bottle, 2007-06-20 04:09 am UTC
Re: *disclaimer: poster blows at historical accuracy* - [info]melannen, 2007-06-20 04:35 am UTC
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[info]shoiryu
2007-06-18 06:56 pm UTC (link)
...And yet NONE of them will ever get to be bestest pals/sleep with Jensen and/or Jared, which really is what stuff like this always comes off to me as, ahaha.

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[info]eldritch
2007-06-18 07:07 pm UTC (link)
I don't understand why, if they're there just to see Jensen, they can't sit down, shut up, and enjoy the show.

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(no subject) - [info]trollprincess, 2007-06-18 10:12 pm UTC
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[info]tez
2007-06-18 07:10 pm UTC (link)
Cue ex-house manager for large collegiate performing arts building sitting on hands to avoid ranting.

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(no subject) - [info]out_bottle, 2007-06-18 07:56 pm UTC
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[info]ingrid
2007-06-18 11:11 pm UTC (link)
This might produce yet more wank (as hard as the OP tries it not to):

http://morgandawn.livejournal.com/666770.html?format=light

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(no subject) - [info]ingrid, 2007-06-18 11:46 pm UTC

[info]nita
2007-06-19 12:31 am UTC (link)
Interestingly enough, that play wasn't a one man show, though you wouldn't know it base on the Supernatural fans. As far as they were concerned, the only person on stage is Jenson. It also starred Lou Diamond Phillips - which is actually why I went to see it. It was announced before the show "Do not take pictures during the performance", which I understand, having worked in theatre before, that it's a safety issue for the performers. Don't make with the flash and blind the actors from seeing their cues and/or tripping.

Now, after the show, Phillips and Diamond came out to greet the fans by the stage door. I'd heard that they hadn't been signing autographs or allowing pictures, but I suspect that may have to due more with whackjob over-zealous fans. When Phillips turned to sign an autograph for me, I said all I would like is one nice picture of him, and he very sweetly posed for me. Bottom line, act sane and polite and (usually) the actors will be quite gracious. Act like a crazed fangirl and you ruin it for everybody. Why can't these wankers figure that out? Oh, yeah, that's a self-answering question.

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(no subject) - [info]danceswithelvis, 2007-06-19 01:17 am UTC
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[info]lancenerd
2007-06-19 01:23 am UTC (link)
Taking photos during plays notwithstanding (distracting and rude) - this fandom just gets nuttier every day. Where are they all coming from?

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[info]misswindy
2007-06-19 05:00 am UTC (link)
What I really love about this is that I dimly recall that last week, on several of the many smaller Jensen/SPN fan forums and threads I read, ckll mentioned her audio recording and was specifically told by her fellow posters, "Dude, whatever you do, don't post this on LJ. You *will* get skewered and will end up on fandom_wank."

Did she listen? Of course not.

And for that, F_W is very grateful.

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[info]dodge_and_weave
2007-06-19 05:43 am UTC (link)
It's like people are starting to treat live theater or live orchestra performances as if they were pop or rock concert or talk show. Theater's not really my thing (the last thing I saw was Spamalot- tells ya something about my tastes I guess), but I have heard friends complain that live theater patrons are becoming ruder and ruder. I wonder what the deal is?

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[info]arielchan
2007-06-19 07:14 am UTC (link)
The sad thing about this wankery, beneath the funneh, is that it overshadows the important things about the play:

1) It was a good play.
2) Jensen was hot.
3) While Jensen and Lou were awesome, a lot of the time the local actors were the truly impressive part of the show.
4) Lots of people got to meet fandom friends and fandom strangers who are now friends and get really drunk have lots of fun with them.

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(no subject) - [info]nita, 2007-06-19 04:24 pm UTC

[info]fairy_tale_echo
2007-06-19 09:13 am UTC (link)
One the one hand, anteka is right. It is horribly annoying to take pictures/audio during a live show. It's also disrespectful to the actor you're supposedly there fangirling.

On the OTHER hand, man, anteka is a one giant wank-star. She should replace her icon that says, Stop! Self appointed fandom police with one that says fandom is blessed to have fans like me and one that says you are not a friend of the fandom. (Actually, everyone here at FW should have icons that say that.)

Also, this wank has achieved cowbell with anteka's declaration of Fandom? I am almost done with you. Not kidding. Promises, promises!

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(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2007-06-19 05:23 pm UTC
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[info]blankverses
2007-06-19 10:47 am UTC (link)
May fandom brings all the nutters to the yard! Damn right, it's as wanky as yours! Jesus, some days I think they do this shit on purpose just so we can have as much wank as the (*cough* harry potter *cough* lord or the rings *end cough*) older fandoms. They've both been making the whole "we know who the TRUE friends of the fandom" posts, they both think the fandom revolves around them, and they're both batshit insane. It eats up my friends list with the wank and makes me want to smash my head into my desk, yet it's highly entertaining and I hope they never stop.

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[info]ram
2007-06-19 01:19 pm UTC (link)
Mmm, I love the smell of wank hypocrisy in the morning.

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[info]inishmore
2007-06-22 11:25 pm UTC (link)
Well, what can you say... she's ckll and a little slow on things...

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