Buttler, Root hundreds set up record England win
England 408 for 9 (Buttler 129, Root 104, Rashid 69, Morgan 50, Boult 4-55) beat New Zealand 198 (Taylor 57, Finn 4-35, Rashid 4-55) by 210 runs
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The proclamation of a new era in England's one-day cricket has been a regular event for the last 20 years. The end results have usually been so underwhelming as to not get carried away by one performance, but never has a phase of rebuilding begun in such barnstorming style as they managed at Edgbaston. England secured their largest runs victory in an ODI as rampant hundreds from Jos Buttler and Joe Root led them beyond the new watermark of 400 for the first time in an ODI.
Buttler, who already held the record of England's fastest ODI hundred with his 61-ball ton against Sri Lanka, at Lord's, last year slotted himself in at No. 2 as well with a free-wheeling 66-ball effort. Barely an hour earlier, Root had stood at No. 3 on the list with an equally outstanding 71-ball hundred but by the end of the innings - which included a world-record seventh-wicket stand of 177 in 17 overs, between Buttler and Adil Rashid, and an England record 14 sixes - he had to be content with fourth.
The final total of 408 - surpassing their previous best of 391 made against Bangladesh at Trent Bridge in 2005 - was the 16th total over 400 in ODIs. Five of those have come since the start of 2015, encompassing the World Cup, highlighting, if any further evidence was required, just how far behind the pack England's one-day game had become. The mark was passed when Liam Plunkett cleared the ropes in the final over.
New Zealand were only ever going to attempt the chase in one way: at the end of the first over they had 11 runs on the board but Steven Finn had won a personal battle with Brendon McCullum when the New Zealand captain charged and missed, evening the scales somewhat after the onslaught he inflicted in Wellington. Finn bagged 4 for 35 and Rashid capped England's day by following his maiden half-century with 4 for 55. From the moment Grant Elliott was run out by a superb throw from debutant Sam Billings at third man, New Zealand lost their last seven wickets for 38.
England could not have done more to live up their pre-series talk of releasing the shackles of a debilitating World Cup campaign (and arguably a backward mindset to one-day cricket that stemmed back to 1992). When they suffered a mid-innings wobble, losing 4 for 31 in seven overs, there was a risk that the 121-run stand in 15 overs between Root and Eoin Morgan would be wasted, but that could not have proved further from the truth.
Despite being six wickets down at 30 overs, Buttler and Rashid, playing his first innings for England since 2009, played New Zealand at their own game. The batting Powerplay - so often England's downfall - brought 56 runs. Buttler needed just 24 deliveries for his second fifty while Rashid reached his fifty from 37 balls, although before unleashing Buttler shrewdly saw off Trent Boult, the main threat with four wickets.
It will barely be remembered but England's latest new era did not have the most auspicious of starts when Jason Roy, playing his second ODI but batting for the first time after the rain-ruined match in Ireland, drove the first delivery of the day, from Boult, to Martin Guptill at backward point.
Boult made the major inroads for New Zealand, removing both openers then returning to end Root's magnificent hundred on his way to 4 for 55. Those wickets encouraged Brendon McCullum to bowl him out by the 33rd over - although that was only an extension of his World Cup tactics - but without the rested Tim Southee and to a lesser extent the injured Corey Anderson, he did not have the same depth of resources to quell England's extraordinary second charge. Mitchell McClenaghan was taken for 93 from his 10 overs, the fourth-most expensive figures for a New Zealand bowler, while Elliott and debutant Mitchell Santner were used at the death.
The response to the early loss of Roy was an enlightened one from England as they lived up to their promise of aggression by taking on the New Zealand new-ball attack. Root and Alex Hales added 50 in seven overs, forcing Brendon McCullum to turn to spin, in the form of his brother, as early as the fifth over before Boult struck for a second time when Hales top-edged a pull.
Then came the first major stand of the innings as Root and Morgan - two of the most established players in a young side - took up the cudgels in a 93-ball partnership which left the Edgbaston crowd in raptures and put McCullum under the sort of pressure he has not often felt in one-day colours in recent times.
Morgan's first boundary was a confident strike over long-off against Nathan McCullum and one of outcomes of England's aggression was an earlier-than-usual reduction in New Zealand's slip cordon to the pacemen. Root benefited when he edged McClenaghan between the keeper and Ross Taylor at a wide lone slip to bring up his fifty from 41 balls. Later, in the 37th over, Buttler would also bisect the same gap off the same bowler when he was on 33, although a single slip was understandable by then.
A top-edged six from Morgan brought up the hundred stand from 84 balls and his fifty, just a third in 29 ODI innings, came off 45 balls before he was pinned lbw by McClenaghan - an on-field decision confirmed by the DRS. The innings then stuttered and when Santner won the battle of the debutants against Billings - this time a decision overturned by the DRS - England had reached the point of the innings when 'double the score' becomes the catchphrase with only four wickets remaining.
Yet they still doubled the score, in breathtaking fashion. Rashid struck the first six of a partnership that would include seven of them when he took on Santner, whose seventh over then cost 19, as the pair started to find top gear and Buttler went to fifty from 42 deliveries. Ten of the last 14 overs of the innings went for double figures, including 18 off the 47th bowled by Elliott. Rashid had been given a life on 37 when Matt Henry's hands, rather the ball, broke the stumps in a run-out attempt.
Buttler gave a tough chance to deep midwicket on 90 which Taylor could not gather as he ran in and in the next over went to his second ODI hundred with a drilled boundary through the off side, which had been peppered throughout his innings.
While New Zealand are much more than a one man team, it was the sort of mammoth target that needed 20 overs of McCullum. Instead, Guptill tried to set a strong early tempo before edging a heave against Finn who also managed the notable feat of the day's only maiden over. He later added Taylor, who top-scored with 57 off 54 balls in what was an encouraging performance.
The most eye-catching bowling, though, came from Rashid. Enjoying a day with a mountain of runs to play with, he lured Kane Williamson into finding long-off in his second over, helping to settle the nerves. His googly was in good working order and in his ninth over he had Santner well caught at slip then spun a wrong 'un through Luke Ronchi's first-ball sweep. Another followed when Henry was lbw, albeit to one that would have spun past leg stump. Still, an English legspinner in one-day cricket - whatever unfolds for this England team, for one day at least it did feel like a new era.
Andrew McGlashan is a deputy editor at ESPNcricinfo
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The NZ bowling certainly wasn't at it's strongest but it was most encouraging to see the way in which England went about their business, They had some luck but that is often the way in limited-overs cricket particularly. If you put the opposition under pressure then they will make more mistakes, so some credit for that luck goes to England too. Another point to note is that, other than Rashid, the new blood didn't really contribute too much. Is that a sign of England's more-experienced players feeling more freedom? If the new boys fire as well then we may indeed see some bigger scores from England.
@jg2704: Once again, you are wrong. What I said was: if Stokes is going to be judged on his batting, he has to be judged when batting between three and five. I did not ever say I would want him in the ODI team, prior to the World Cup, or now; I would have wanted Bopara to bat at four. Get it right, before you shout your mouth off about what you think you know, rather than what others have actually stated. Sort yourself out.
Still England beed someone like Bresnan or a left arm bowler instead of 6 specialist batsmen. This batting powerplay has made it tougher to manage just 4 bowlers
Ben Stokes has been someone England have invested a lot in.Their most costly disappointment before the World Cup, he needs to do a lot better
NZ do have a weakness against leg spin,especially if there is a quality leg spinner like Rashid around.So although they will be strenghtened by the return of Southee,Andersen and possibly Neesham their batsmen need to be careful.England need to maintain the attitude they showed at Birmingham and win or lose play that way throughout this summer and in the future!
@DSA - You've championed Stokes' for a place in the ODI side before - saying he needs a run at 4 so please forgive me for not realising you were actually being sarky .
Never seen England perform like this in a one day match ever ! The change of personnel has done the trick and it is clear that England are in a new "avataar"-a less stuffy one .If this continues,then England is going to be a major and serious player for the next world cup and Champions trophy.They have multifaceted players like Butler & Adil Rashid and classical guys like Root who can score fast without making an effort(surely the most complete batsman in England now ?).
@jg2704: Firstly, I think most people were talking about India in ODIs, and their ability to travel away and win, given that this was also an ODI, and not a Test match between England and New Zealand. Test match records are irrelevant in the discussion. Secondly, Are you able to see the ellipsis or not? It was clearly sarcasm, and anyone who saw what I wrote would have clearly interpreted it as such, especially as I was listing the different players in the team who did not perform. You have a serious problem in misinterpreting what is said on the forums, which will hamper YOUR credibility.
Roy and Billings, just played their first match and Thozar evaluating in just one game. Kp is 35 yrs and max 2 yrs of Odi he could play as he is a better test player.
Great Win! but I don't understand why England chose to play only 5 specialist bowlers (And B.Stokes is too inconsistent and can leak to many runs) and (S.Billings was not needed) well apart from his terrific run out. In the next game it would be good to see D.Willey in for S.Billings.
The NZ bowling certainly wasn't at it's strongest but it was most encouraging to see the way in which England went about their business, They had some luck but that is often the way in limited-overs cricket particularly. If you put the opposition under pressure then they will make more mistakes, so some credit for that luck goes to England too. Another point to note is that, other than Rashid, the new blood didn't really contribute too much. Is that a sign of England's more-experienced players feeling more freedom? If the new boys fire as well then we may indeed see some bigger scores from England.
@jg2704: Once again, you are wrong. What I said was: if Stokes is going to be judged on his batting, he has to be judged when batting between three and five. I did not ever say I would want him in the ODI team, prior to the World Cup, or now; I would have wanted Bopara to bat at four. Get it right, before you shout your mouth off about what you think you know, rather than what others have actually stated. Sort yourself out.
Still England beed someone like Bresnan or a left arm bowler instead of 6 specialist batsmen. This batting powerplay has made it tougher to manage just 4 bowlers
Ben Stokes has been someone England have invested a lot in.Their most costly disappointment before the World Cup, he needs to do a lot better
NZ do have a weakness against leg spin,especially if there is a quality leg spinner like Rashid around.So although they will be strenghtened by the return of Southee,Andersen and possibly Neesham their batsmen need to be careful.England need to maintain the attitude they showed at Birmingham and win or lose play that way throughout this summer and in the future!
@DSA - You've championed Stokes' for a place in the ODI side before - saying he needs a run at 4 so please forgive me for not realising you were actually being sarky .
Never seen England perform like this in a one day match ever ! The change of personnel has done the trick and it is clear that England are in a new "avataar"-a less stuffy one .If this continues,then England is going to be a major and serious player for the next world cup and Champions trophy.They have multifaceted players like Butler & Adil Rashid and classical guys like Root who can score fast without making an effort(surely the most complete batsman in England now ?).
@jg2704: Firstly, I think most people were talking about India in ODIs, and their ability to travel away and win, given that this was also an ODI, and not a Test match between England and New Zealand. Test match records are irrelevant in the discussion. Secondly, Are you able to see the ellipsis or not? It was clearly sarcasm, and anyone who saw what I wrote would have clearly interpreted it as such, especially as I was listing the different players in the team who did not perform. You have a serious problem in misinterpreting what is said on the forums, which will hamper YOUR credibility.
Roy and Billings, just played their first match and Thozar evaluating in just one game. Kp is 35 yrs and max 2 yrs of Odi he could play as he is a better test player.
Great Win! but I don't understand why England chose to play only 5 specialist bowlers (And B.Stokes is too inconsistent and can leak to many runs) and (S.Billings was not needed) well apart from his terrific run out. In the next game it would be good to see D.Willey in for S.Billings.
@THOZAR - I've never said that India aren't a decent SF side - Not sure why you're even bringing India into it. And yes I remember Southee dominating us in the WC but the last time he played against us in Eng he took 0-65 in 9 overs and the game before he took 3-48 and the game before 1-54 , so surely that proves that he is inconsistent. If you look at his figures in games since that Eng game he never took more than 2 wkts in any game and his best return in the 6 matches since was 2-65. Please don't tell me that he was nailed on to repeat what he did the last time he bowled vs Eng in an ODI. Please also tell us how Eng were exceptionally lucky and NZ exceptionally unlucky? It may be a one off but you don't win like that by pure luck
@2929PAUL- No - Stokes has had more than 1 opportunity up the order. As Neil says Stokes has potential and can produce but so can anyone who has ever been talked about as an Eng player. Also it's not an obsession with Tredwell - just that he IS our most reliable SF bowler - better average and ER than all the pace bowlers we have. Just feel we have not had anyone like that since Swann. I can see the point about moving forward but I don't see one bowler that offers us the control that Tredwell does on a regular basis and also feel that it is unfair for any blame to be attached to him for the poor WC considering he was never part of any of the defeats. I (and a few others) said this at the time - that we'd miss the control he brings and look what happened . Someone said about NZ missing Southee. Personally I think they missed Vettori more
@DSA - India are a decent SF side but ARE poor travellers in tests. Also are you saying Stokes doesn't usually go for runs? I hope not. You can't make such statements and expect anyone on here ever to take you seriously again
great score by England. in that sort of score there has to be everything , the 50/50 go your way and the certainly did. NZ did not bowl badly but England batted superbly. For NZ to chase they obviously were going to be close witg only afew wickets lost or completely collapse. A new batter has to carry on from ball one, which they could not manage.....so McCullum and NZ wins games when he losses the toss.....need that toss lossing form back captain.....well done England. I luke ti see England more confident in their cricket. My favourite team traditionally after NZ....but rather we smash u.....i lost alot of sleep for that thrashing.....grrr
@DARCY: Yep, he's less than perfect. But consider where NZ find themselves now compared with where they were when he took over. NZ were the little team that could, but rarely did. Now? They're jumping up the rankings. They turned up to this England tour with a lot of press and fans calling them overwhelming favourites to whitewash both tests and ODIs. His bowling changes are often weird, but they went very well for him in the WC. He bowled boult out early plenty of times, and it worked plenty of times. I remind you again that it very nearly worked this time too. Hopefully, he adjusts now that England have shown that they won't just wilt every time he pushes, but it was a good bet they would going in to the first game. He faced lions in the place of the lambs he (and everyone else) was expecting, and chose wrong at the toss. It's also worth remembering that this is a worthless ODI series in which both teams a re blooding new talent. Results aren't life-and-death.
You mean they won without cookie?? How dare they
India are an awful travelling team? Just look at recent ICC events and see where India have finished in them. In the 2011 World Cup in India, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh, India won it, beating Australia, Pakistan and Sri Lanka in a row. In the 2012 WC T20 in Sri Lanka, finished third in group two (not good). In the 2013 Champions Trophy in England, India won, beating England. In the 2014 WC T20 in Bangladesh, India were losing finalists. In this year's WC in Australia and New Zealand, India were semi-finalists. Sure, some of those were still in Asia, but even away from there, India's record in the big tournaments is enviable, and they have titles (plural). It is much better than the rubbish from the England team and their 20th New England team. England should be judged by their away performances in ODI series', given England are hosting ICC events. Home victories should be the norm for a side with high standards. If England beat Australia in England, that is one step, but only one.
England's score was hardly due to a different England and its different players as, except Rashid, the good performances came from players who were part of the starting eleven in the embarrassing World Cup earlier this year. Equally, Roy, Hales (to an extent), Stokes (who does not usually get dismantled for runs...), Billings, Plunkett and Jordan did not perform well, though that seems awfully coincidental. It looks like it is mind over matter, with lots of time passing since the World Cup and probably a big pep-talk of doing something different, in which case, that bubble will pop, and England will then have an inexperienced team that is losing and taking far too much criticism than what inexperienced players should be expected to deal with, except there usually would not be so many in a national team at the same time. P2 of 3.
Wow. That was a shock. However, I think it is a definite aberration. England can not break records every match, in order to be competitive in matches.
In terms of the match, with New Zealand winning the toss, why would McCullum field? Surely, you look to bat first, unless conditions are very good for bowling, so that you can set an improbable score to chase, like England did, or failing that, your bowlers may bail you out, but you are pretty much done if such a big score is set as there is too much pressure on batsmen looking to score too quickly, for fear of being dismissed after trying to "get set". In terms of fielding, not too good. I thought Taylor could have got to the one he went one-handed for...if he went two-handed instead. Also, why would McCullum have someone at slips, but not occupy first slip? After one went though first slip, he moved Taylor there, and it went through second. Then he moved Taylor back to second and the ball went through first. Poor stuff there. P1 of 3.
fgs, get over it, NZ got a pasting, a real good hiding, i cant believe the excuses some people are using, McCullum is nothing but a slogger who gets lucky now and again, do people really think Southee will make a difference? McCullum aint a patch on root or buttler who use skill and timing and clever shots, England have at last been given the license to go for it and players to play their natural game, hit their highest ever score over 4 hundred against WC finalists, and NZ couldnt even make half that score, yea England will lose matches playing this way like all other teams do, but they will win a hell of a lot more now, NZs stop making excuses, u got hammered, and jealousy aint nice thing haha
@ JMCILHIMNEY
"So some credit for that luck goes to England" - they hit a record ODI score and they deserve "some" credit? Could praise be given in a more begrudging way?
@ REDBULL
"If the kiwis had survived with a couple of heir big hitters left for a few more overs, they could have posted far more"
But the Kiwis were smashed by over 200 runs, and by the same token if Roy, Billings and Stokes had fired England could have posted far more.
@Thozar - India were trounced in NZ, NZ won in England and South Africa. Argument over.
Very good performance by England, but lets remember - only 5 and a half (the half being the quick cameo from Hales) of the 11 players contributed to this win. Roy got a duck, but deserves a few more chances. Stokes carried on from the last time he was tried in ODI's - abysmal with the bat, a liability with the ball. Jordan simply does not look international class, Plunkett is past his best and was leaking runs for fun. And then we have Billings. What exactly is he there for? A spare wicketkeeper in case Buttler nobbles a finger? A batsmen *coughtaylorisfarbettercough*? His place needs taking by a different kind of player - someone who can BOWL - as if we are persisting with Stokes in this format we cannot rely on him to bowl ten a game. Rashid had bowled out and Finn only had three left - if the Kiwis had survived with a couple of heir big hitters left a few more overs, they could have posted far more.
Regardless of outcome of the game all batsmen did not hold back palying their game, in the past Engalnd would be happy tonget 300 after 190 odd in 30 th over but this time they batted with no fear 7th wicket partnership i am refering to. Even if they fail they should keep faith in this style of play. At least it is not boring to watch, Joe Root exceptionally well the flow in his batting was so good to watch, clean hitting and sublime timing, he set the stage for a big score.
NZ - good at home, mediocre away from home, like pretty much every other ODI side in the world. In the WC, they won all their matches playing at home and promptly lost the only match they didn't play in NZ. Same with the Aussies - won everything at home and lost the only match they played in NZ. ODI Cricket as a whole is in dire straights competitively. Back to back home WC wins (India 2011, Australia 2015) should really wake ICC up and make them make dramatic changes. Otherwise ODIs are going to become blatantly predictable.
@2929PAUL In fairness when Stokes has had chances to bat 3 and 5 in ODIs for England and his record is worse than when batting 7/8 as I have posted a few times on this site the actual numbers. I think he's a dynamic and exciting player who can play some amazing innings, but his bowling is poor in white-ball cricket, and he needs to find a little bit consistency with the bat, otherwise he risks being a passenger in too many games. He did play those 2 unbelievable innings in the RL50 cup last year, but the rest of the tournament was poor for him, and he was outscored by Taylor (who puts up brilliant numbers each year and has outperformed him in ODIs) and Billings. It's all well and good saying he'll come good but we've been waiting for a while now. I do hope he proves me wrong.
@JG2704, I agree Buttler played well and is a promising player. Root is good also. The rest like Roy and Billings did not live up to their billing, lol. I think if KP is included, England can hope to climb to 4 or 5 in the rankings. Otherwise, they will continue to be ranked below Bangladesh. Sorry.
@JG2704, I think you misunderstood what I said. NZ did well in world cup but that was in their home only. In the final against Oz in Oz, they failed miserably. Even though they made it to the finals, they are not that great a side. If you look at one day performances around the world, India is the best team followed by Oz and S Africa. If you remember we beat you 3-1 in your home just last year and won every game and bowled out every team in the world cup till we met Oz in the semi final. We were the only team to do that till that point. Also everyone will agree that Southee's absence makes a big difference. Also don't forget Corey Anderson was also missing. Do you remember the world cup match when Southee decimated your batting line-up?
@ PAUL
It's Stokes bowling that more of an issue for me. I'm not really a fan of keeping somebody in the side on the "he might come good" basis ss I believe that's what landed us with Cook, Bell, Morgan, Broad and Anderson not producing for game, after game, after game - and we lost game, after game, after game. Give any player a defined number of matches. If they don't produce they go back onto the sidelines (possibly to get another chance later) and somebody else gets a go as there's plenty out there.
@COD & @ NEIL. Stokes is a batsman who bowls and has just one opportunity to bat in his preferred position. You can not judge his batting on this one innings any more than you can Roy and Billings. Check his domestic one day record last season and you will see how well he performed as a batsman. He will come good. Other bowling options could become a problem, though. In the long term I think this team has one too many specialist batsmen, so a slot will have to found for someone like Willey and/or Ali
Sad news for buttler as now he will target ipl and then it's going to be downhill from then on.
England and the pundits will have their work cut out explaining if England don't make some scores of a thousand-plus in the Ashes, given they will have, say ninety overs, double what they have in one-dayers. The modern bats can readily put into the crowd balls that used to be hard to hit off the square.
@ COD
Yep, let's not tinker with a record breaking and confident side just yet. Agree about Stokes - he looks all at sea in the one day game despite his good test form. It's quite bizarre really. I'd give him the next 2 games then look at Willey. I believe it would be more benefitial for Stokes to develop his bowling rather than throw him into ODIs, plus that wouldn't preclude reselection at a later date if required.
Further, let's hope Rashid continues to peform and cements a test birth. I'd love to see him smash Johnson et al to all corners of the park and then rip right through them.
It'd probably be pointless to make changes for next game. Let's see if England can keep it up. However I would understand if England wanted to rotate the seamers, though it would be nice to see this same bowling attack be put under pressure. Also I do wonder about the balance of the side. We're playing 4 front-line bowlers plus Stokes. Through the last year of ODI struggle I thought our bowling was always the biggest weakness, and if we were to learn one thing it would be that you have to pick enough bowling to stand a chance of winning. Maybe Willey should come in for Stokes or for one of the batsmen, but perhaps they want to have a good look at Stokes with the ball by giving him 10 overs. Let's hope he proves me wrong this series. England's bowling does concern me because I fear Plunkett, Finn and Wood have been picked as an ashes audition as opposed to having the sufficient white-ball skills. I'd still have rather seen the likes of Gurney and Rushworth included for instance.
Why can't Brendon McCullum aim for a big hundred or try to bat through batting powerplay...?! When chasing big totals or putting a target,his selflessness drama with bat just looks like popularity stunt.
How many times has Ross Taylor been involved in a partnership that inevitably ends with the other batsman being runout?! Almost a routine for him.
England's cricket fans can finally smile about something, an excellent result, but, it could have been different if not for the middle order, we looked to struggle when we got to 238, but, Rashid and Buttler got us out of the myre, and Plunkett's 2 sixes at the end saw us get past the magical 400 figure. McCullum could have so easily been out 1st ball from the aggressive fielding, but, then threw his wicket away by trying to slog every ball, not a Captain's innings by his standard, it then fell to pieces really, 400 was too much for them and even though the England players who didn't bat well, Roy, Billings and Jordan, all did very well in the field and should hopefully have cemented their way into the squad for the next game. A huge pity that Rashid didn't get the MotM, but, he should be proud of his performance, and I don't think NZ will play as badly next time, they have to be very wary of the new England now, let's hope this is going to brighten up our summer.
Was great to watch. But hard o know whether to laugh or cry. World Cup wins are the name of the game and not meaningless ODI wins. It makes earlier this year all the more farcical, when you consider that they players were already there to be picked.
That was certainly one hell of a game by England-only 1 tournament too late! I thought Root's innings was unbelievable and bore no relation to England openings as per normal.His range of shots I those of a very good batman,probably a great one. Buttler's was even more destructive and shows that somewhere what people have learnt in IPL etc has been passed on.Maybe Stokes might like to get n on the act and both Roy and Hales can play this way. Perhaps the best game though was played by Rashid ; top all round effort and perhaps a pointer to England's future if they stop being timid. Finn too showed the requisite passion. Suddenly McCullum was forgotten for an afternoon.
Good to see England finally moving on from Cook, Bell, Bopara etc. They've never been a poor ODI team. It's just that they used to pick the wrong players for the wrong format. Can they keep producing performances like this in the coming days is what I want to see.
Well played England, it was cricket from the antipodean textbook. However the antipodean textbook does have it's limitations and smashing the ball around like that does increase the element of "rolling the dice". You can't always be sure of a double six.
@Sameold, other than bringing on Williamson on day 5 at Headingly, which of McCullum's genius plans has actually come off lately? His captaincy in this first ODI was frankly appalling. His bowling changes seemed like they were spat out by a random number generator, with Grant Elliot being given a bowl before McClenaghan and Santner, Santner not getting a bowl until practically the powerplay, and then bowling both in the powerplay and at the death. His approach to batting, as mimicked by most of the team led to two unbelievable collapses at Lords. His captaincy at the end of the first innings at Lords absolutely let the England tail off the hook, letting the bowlers bowl short rather than full and straight as is the beginning and end of any bowlers plan to tail enders and for good reason. He got lucky a few times at the world cup that he didn't get out in the first over as is now more common, and he got lucky with Williamson at Headingly, that's it.
A great day for England and the first time ever that ANY team has scored 400 in an ODI in England, amazing. NZ were always going to struggle to top that but will come good in the following games I am sure. Credit must go to Farbrace and Strauss for creating a more relaxed dressing room where attack will be rewarded not punished. However, the bowling remains a huge concern. Defending 400 is considerably easier than defending 280 and until the like of Stokes, Finn and Rashid have done that I remain sceptical that the mix is right. But for now, lets enjoy it as it is an awfully long time since the ODI team made England's fans smile
i would suggest that while england batted brillantly one should notice that there were a lot of batting failures too and i would give the man of the match to adil rashid for his alround display...New Zealand bowled terribly and i would suggest that milne, southee and wheeler all be brought in for the next match...although i must say that they do have a lot of spare good fast bowlers...englands experienced batsmen probably felt the pressure for the first time even though the new players did not perform
@ Valavan - England never had "three good days" as you put it in their cricket history. Lol on them. In fact they never had 3 good days in any top ODI tournament so far in their cricket history as they have never won any big ODI tournaments.It is quite amusing to see an English fan telling Indians about how knockout games are different from league games. There was an article in cricinfo on this during WC and India is # 2 in winning knockout games after Australia in ICC tournaments. If only the last 10 years is considered then India is # 1. I dont think England are even in the top 5. Go check the facts. ROFL. @ CaseyWilliamOZ - Aussie fans are so humble, friendly and cultured - just like their cricketers (like Mcgrath, Ponting, Mcgill and Slater). lol.
Great result for England and a good start, but I want to see 5 in a row before I believe we are really that good. Roy, Hales and Stokes showed little. Morgan has had a lot of fails, so one decent knock doesn't prove much. Only Joe Root, who looks an outstanding talent, is really proven. Several others look hopeful but still have to prove it.
@JG2704 I still can't understand your obsession with Tredwell. We are trying to build a team for the next four years and he isn't the future. He is also one dimensional and it looks like England are looking at Ali and Rashid as their two spinners for the future, both of whom can bat. By the way, I thought Taylor was incredibly unlucky to miss out but I am a fan of both Roy and Billings and I like the changes made to the batting order.
@VKUMAR, the loss in QF can be counted and others can just be ignored. If WI have had 3 good matches in PlayOFF they would be the champion. Didnt that happen to India in WC 2011. PlayOFFS a different game compared to league stage. LOL on all Indian fans here.
@PETERMYTON - Maybe 2 seamers is going a bit overboard but in the WC we were leaking runs for fun with our pace biased attack and we weren't taking wickets either and that was on seaming tracks.I would have Tredwell in every SF side and you could even have Ali in for Hales or Roy so that you can still have 3 seamers. I don't see much wrong with Bell - depending on which version turns up - but I'm not calling for him to return. The only WC player I'd definitely have back in is Tredwell who did not play in any of our defeats and who has been our most reliable player in recent years in SFs
@THOZAR - NZ were finalists in the WC so if that makes them a bog average side , all bar Aus are bog average sides. So you're also saying that Southee would have meant a 275+ run difference in the NZ total? And I guess if BMac didn't play you'd have said NZ would have chased the total with ease? It may be a one off performance but saying it was exceptionally lucky just shows total anti bias. As for KP - I'd not have burned bridges with him , but if KP played an inns like Buttler or Root played you'd be harping on about it for ages. Buttler has the 2 quickest 100s by an Eng batsman and has played less than half the games KP has played in and bats at 6 or 7 rather than 3 or 4 and he gets no credit from you
yes a nice result but lets not get overly excited - I do hope this policy is persevered with going forward - and that it connects with the five day team. When you think about it NZ, who realise that they are not always good and traditional five day cricket - just try to play two ultimate 50 overs innings with benefits in tests- as they did at Leeds . It wont always work but at least they stick to their strengths and entertain even in defeat. I would think we could adopt a similar approach modified in certain circumstances - although this would probably hasten the demise of Cook Anderson and Broad as international cricketers. No bad thing then. Today was so good, it was almost too good and certainly should not be sustainable at that success level - but - a similar level should be achievable most of the time without compromis through using players who had a new outlook.I also agree with Agnew that anyone who uses the phrase ''express himself'' should now be shunned.
Eng are ALWAYS a better side without bell. Great that Broad & Jimmy can now concentrate on Test cricket. After 5 years of saker ruining Eng bowlers it's great to see Finn back. He still bowls a bit too straight as does Jordan but hopefully Ottis can help them sort that out. At least Finn is back on the park and not back on a plane. Farbrace is doing a great job, but when Eng sort out their poor fielding (NZ saved 30+ runs in the field Eng gave 30+ runs in the field) & too straight bowling they could become something. Great to see this start, now they need to back it up on Friday.
@DARCY: you make some good points, but you might want to take your own advice and dial back a touch on the throttle there. mccullum's tactics are baffling at times, and often frustrating, but he's far from incompetant. We've watched him accelerate into hairpin turns and come out smiling how many times lately? Four or five catchable edges went through vacant slips, not to mention skied mishits which somehow landed safely, and England were 200/6 at one stage. Plan A (attack!attack!attack!) very nearly worked, and England's recent history would lead one to believe they would crumble. Credit to them, they didn't. Root and Buttler were both excellent under extreme pressure. As for NZs batting, they were chasing 400. All you can really do is trust yourself and go all out if you're baz. If it was KW or Elliott, sure, they'll build an innings. But you've got to stop expecting baz to do that. That way lies major disappointment.
Well played England... After a long time they were playing the ODI mode of cricket... But the question still remains, can they continue with this style and brand of cricket... And even if they do, can they play this way all over the world... Can this team pull up when they are losing matches... I have a serious doubt... The Reason is that it is just a one off match and they still have another 4 matches to go iin this series... Even after the 2011 WC they started afresh and by the end of 2015 WC they were all but in ruins....
Well done England. It was an eye-catching performance and increased a lot of respect for the team.
This won't happen every time (it's a young team, and ODI success needs a bit of luck), but it was encouraging to see an England team finally play 21st Century (or T20 era) ODI cricket, particularly after the debacle of the recent world cup. Only 8-10 years too late, really. They also finally look to have about the right balance to the team. A lot of credit must go to Eoin Morgan and Paul Farbrace for changing the players' mindsets, and to Andrew Strauss for calling this right. England finally look as if they can win ODI games against good teams. I expect New Zealand to come back strongly, and an exciting series in in prospect. This new England ODI team could make people want to watch them again!
The problem with England is running between wickets, if they get that sorted then they can strike the consistency in ODIs. Yesterday's ODI was just about pressuring NZ bowlers with singles and twos, if they play this way boundaries and sixes just come by. Being aggressive is onething, but Stokes showed blind aggression but not controlled aggression. If they are able to sort out these issues, they can really play competitive ODI cricket in the future.
By the way, is anyone going to give Strauss any credit for this new style? If we had lost, you can bet the knives would have been out for him. According to some people on here, his influence is why England are negative and lose. It's why we have a poor ODI attitude. He is the reason we lose. And I see all the KP fans are quiet too. Let's be clear, England will lose but it won't be because Strauss came to the training sessions and told them how to play and it won't be because KP wasn't selected. It will be because the other team played better than us and we have just seen how well they can play, given the opportunity.
@Valavan...in fact its three bad days for Pak (against India, WI, Aus) & three bad days for SL also(against Aus, NZ & SA)...after three bad days, its improbable to win the WC...After Aus & NZ, India was the third best team in WC
Does this signal the end of Bell,Anderson,Broad and well Cook in the ODI side?
England done well now they need to keep it up and create a competitive environment. Get rid of Plunkett and Billings and bring in Taylor and Willey. If players don't perform they get dropped this is what will create a winning culture for the English team.
I don't think anybody could have expected this result. I'm just happy England stayed true to their word about being positive. It was the senior players who delivered- Root scoring yet another hundred, Morgan and Buttler staying true to their natural game. Rashid was excellent as well. Note how spin didn't bog the team down either when batting. Yes the flat pitch and New Zealand didn't bowl like they could and England got lucky but the way England played they were going to have a bit. Notice also that James Taylor can't get into the side, which is good to see depth.
However they bowling is a concern. I'd like to see Finn and Rashid, who bowled well, under a bit of pressure. Also not sure how Stokes as a 5th bowler will go but I'm glad to see them backing him. I think England's bowling in ODIs in recent times has been worse than the batting so let's hope that improves this series.
Shows what can be achieved with a positive attitude. Root and Hales played orthodox shots, as did Morgan, on the whole, and, in the main, Buttler and Rashid at the start of their innings. The running was superb. The basics done well. With Aii, Taylor, Bairstow, Vince, Willey, Wood and other youngsters around, the squad for the next four years looks full of potential. For those in the wicket keeper debate, all those mentioned are batsmen who wear gloves. They would be selected on their merits as a batsman and then the gloves stuck on one of them. I'm not convinced about Finn or Plunkett. We must be patient because we will lose badly as well as win in style over the next couple of years but hopefully it will all come good.
Sport at its unpredictable best. We'll done England, can't wait for NZ to fight back
Can we do away with McCullum, now? Please? I'm sick and tired of hearing him talk about how we're not good enough to win playing any other way. Trent Boult, Kane Williamson, Jimmy Neesham, Corey Anderson, BJ Watling, Tom Latham, Ross Taylor... Players that a lot of teams around the world would kill for. We can play normally and win, and I would bet all the money in the world we'd win more often. McCullum bats as if he's the worst batsman in the world and he captains as if we're the worst team in the world. We're a good team, very good, lets play normally and make the most of it. First five balls of an over go for 11 but you still want to charge? Madness. Keeping a bowler with a List A economy of 4.3 out of the match until after the halfway point while the runrate is above 7? And then bowling him in the powerplay and at the death? Incompetence.
Well done England. A strong, competitive England is very good for all of world cricket. Especially hope this rejuvenates the limited overs game in the country. The Ashes is not the be-all and end-all of cricket and apart from it being only significant to England and Australia, even much of that significance is now much reduced because, generally speaking, neither teams have the players of the stature of the past plus Test cricket has lost much of its former aura. As for passing 400 in this ODI, well done but don't get carried away yet. South Africa passes this total routinely nowadays - in fact, three times already in just the first three months of this year! So develop your ODI culture more positively, firmly and seriously first then you can be considered a true force in the ODI game. But otherwise, well done and good luck. I'm proudly SA but I do kind of have a soft spot for England.
@vkumar, who needs it at the end Aussies won the WC. One badday for Pakistan and one badday for SL, else they would also have won WC
One issue is cropping up. Slowly. And silently. It could be an elephant in the room, about which , perhaps, no one wants to talk. Let alone take up for discussion..
Let me gingerly raise it:
That is about ECB's future plans for three veterans: Bell, Jimmy & Broady.
I hope English media won't get over-excited and start branding their side the greatest side ever. This is just one win and things can still change.
Another mediocre display by NZ. Time to start sliding back down the rankings to where they belong.
Amazing performances by Root and Buttler, but most notably by Adil Rashid. Ridiculous that such a talented player had to wait six years to add to his international caps, incredible that his legspin hasn't even been trusted in the T20 format. England's crimes in limited overs cricket have been many since 1992, but that one is up there with the best of them.
@Valavan...India is the second ranked team in ODI's...in WC 2015 had only one bad day against Aussies...all out the oppositions in consecutive 6 matches (hope you remember this)...won all three ICC trophies outside their comfort zone(first team to do so, WI is another team)...can you show which other match except the match against BD, India lost to minnows in WC...but Eng lost to BD in last two world cups...lost to Netherlands in T20 WC, lost to Ireland in 2011 WC...the rankings wont say lie...I dont remember when Eng won the ODI series recently, although they are great test side, they are very poor in this format...NZ will win this ODI series
What was McCullum thinking? He thought of as the one of the best skippers around...
@FIJICRICKET, counting U19 vs Australia means they haven't won any vs Australia out of India by the professional team. Beating Windies away, beating Zimbabwe, you did forget beating BERMUDA in 2007, Beating IRELAND in Wc, and does anyone need this when this game is between England and NewZealand. Lol
Wow England, I wasn't expecting that!!! i knew this was going to be a tight series and thought we would win it 3-2 (which we still might), but hey, we just got thrashed. I don't think you can take anything from NZs batting, chasing 409 you just have to go for it and it all needs to go perfect for you to get close. But NZ needs to get their bowling right - lots of slow balls and yorkers if it's clear that there is no movement. Bowling first and going in with two spinners were both mistakes, especially when one is on debut and the other hasn't played for ages. This beating will certainly have blown any ego out the team after the world cup - which may actually be a good thing. In the end, credit must go to England, Buttler has been threatening to play an innings like that.
Wow, euphoric headlines and England finally win an ODI. Goodness me, what's next?
Periodically, England performs in ODI. Look at their past performances, except few here and there, they always perform well at their home condition. The problem for them, is at the ICC tournaments, specially WC where they always fetched poorly.
But, seeing just one match we should judge either side. There is a long way to go before we can say English men and their so called new era started. Good luck to them.
Bad to Pakistan, as they need to win SL ODI series at any margin if they have any chance to be in top 8 teams to qualify for Champions Trophy in 2017.
The problem with this 'new' Zealand team they have a handful of super awesome players and when they all click including the backup they are super dangerous but when they don't they are well this.....In the new bowling minus Boult it's scares southee performs well 1 in 5 games so he will win you once and lose you the rest
WELL PLAYED ENG !!!! What a memorable day for this new look ENG team !!!! it was a record tumbling match, where most of Eng batsmen played positively through out the innings... NZ needed an explosive start to chase down this mammoth target, but BAZ failed and his wicket was a prize one for Finn !!! Adil Rashid also had an excellent comeback to ODIs !!!
If 4 crucial wickets and enterprising 69 from a players playing after 5 years for his country, is not enough for MoM what contribution do they expect?
I have second thoughts on Bairstow Vs Buttler.
Why can't both be in the playing XI? Both are as good as many batsmen waiting in the wings. And, perhaps better than Bell on the wane.
Who should wear the big gloves can depend upon the form on the day. And, if keeping second, depending on who is more tired after batting.
And, the freedom with which they can play, knowing that there is an equally good keeper in the XI will be a bonus.
well played England good win after long time still lot to improve aggressiveness is good still asses the game and play accordingly the situation to many wickets fall before 35 over .good luck keep that wining habit and improve game after game mistake with out repeatedly doing same mistake again. It's good to have good 1 or 2 spinners in the side accordingly pitch assets.
This is why Brendon McCullum chose to bowl first in the world cup final, to prevent this sore of scoreline on the highest stage. Cricket is a game of momentum, and the large margin of defeat is not all doom and gloom for nZ. That said, this time Brendon got it very very wrong with the toss. It was a defensive move to bowl and on the defence his team became. I think Nathan McCullum may have just played his last ODI for New Zealand. NZ have never played legspinners well, and if they cannot prevent Rashid taking wickets they will be in for a shock scoreline come the end of the series
Calm down England!! No Southee, no Corey or Neesham.... played Santner et cetera.... England batted first and well and NZ chased with a ridiculous (not attacking, but rather reckless and stupid) approach that saw them lose spectacularly and resulted (no doubt, didn't read this or any other article to discover so, but it is obvious) from a slightly bent version of the "we attack, this is how we play, we will lose some games but this gives us our best chance of winning" philosophy.... Streamlining the wheel is fine and dandy, but reinventing it into a hexagon does not make for a smoother ride... you just lose quicker and by 200-plus runs.... as we did last night. You are a far superior team Black Caps.. Please do not give England the delusional belief that one kamikaze effort represents a shift in power or an improvement of the lamest side in world cricket and a deserving member of the Little Three? Thank you.
NZ:
Very uncharacteristic play by the"New" New Zealand.
Many things seem to have gone wrong. The selection of the playing XI, for one. Wrong line and length by most of the bowlers, throughout England's innings. Shoddy (unbelievable) fielding. Wrong shot selections, most probably under the scorecard pressure. Once the Eng score started approachin 350, one could see the body language drooping down - very unlike Baz & his boys.
Hope, it was one of those bad days in office. Hope to see beter fight in the next match, in line with what you had been demonstrating so well. So well, that others find it attractive to emulate, even by your current opponent. Best of luck, next time.
Great to see England joining the party.The pitch is being talked about a lot but it is puzzling why the Kiwis could not bat as freely as England! So credit to the English bowlers for a tremendous perfomance.I think McCullum made a grave error by putting England in but Root,Morgan,Buttler and Rashid batted exceptionally well.Lets hope England keep up the momentum.
Well this sets up a great series now as NZ will no doubt bounce back particularly with Southee and Anderson back. We miss you Dan!
Good typo in the headline guys...!
@BrutalAnalyst - saying England have depth after one game is very premature.
Another new era? It seems forever since they have won a ODI.
Johnthekiwi, so exactly what your newspapers do then.
ENGLAND:
Nice to see that the shackles which used to tie down the free spirits of the new brave generation seem to be sawed off. Who took up the saw & used it is secondary. Hope it is not just a 'teaser', which sometimes doesn't accurately depict the movie when we see it after its release. Hope it is real. And, it heralds a new era. A genuine one.
Prior to Prior's exit from the national team, I had this dilemma about his successor. The toss up was between Yorkshire (Bairstow) & Lancashire (Buttler). That dilemma is resolved. Thank you Buttler.
I have the same dilemma about England's successor to Cook. Again it is between Yorkshire (Root) and Lancashire (Buttler). I hope to see a bit more visible confidence ( inherent confidence is there) from Buttler. If that happens, it is going to be evens stevens, about the choice. Meanwhile, most of he fans and media are building up Root's case. Interesting times ahead.
Excellent show, indeed.
Well played England, should be a good series. People are pretty quick to jum on and off the england bandwagon though! NZ are number two in the world for a good reason, consistency.
nothing special by england... just the flat pitch ...india could have scored 500 +
England deserves the first ODI win they played well of course with new set up , four hundred runs against fairly good bowling attack and aided by fielding lapses .By looking into New Zealand batting it was not all impressive and one wonders how they reached the final of the world cup without a defeat but one thing was certain on both occasion their batting was centred around one batsman their captain who could not do next to nothing and their bowling and fielding let them down. It is remarkable victory for England after they were 230 for six at one stage but Butler changed course of the game and of course Root also played well. Good luck England
I think this will be such a dangerous side in future. But you need another few players to strengthen this squad. One is Moen Alin He is a very goodcricketer with both bat & ball. What about Moen & Adil spinning combination. These 2 can strengthen the england odi team anymore. Moen,Root,Morgan,Josh,Adil should be the regular players in the team. Few chances should be given to Sam,Roy,Stokes,Hales. Also Taylor is not a bad option at all.
It was a good performance. But before people start expecting a lot, I would like to ask them to wait before calling it 'the wanted change'. For what it is, it might be the only good performance in the whole series, although I hope not
@JG2704: that would be an interesting bowling line-up: Finn, Jordan, Tredwell, Rashid, Ali, Root.
Nah, I don't care. This ain't the World Cup so this doesn't count. Still, Buttler looks a real deal. All that matters now is for him to stay where he is along with Root and England have two young guys who can turn things around a lot. Still, I wouldn't get carried away with this performance. England can never do it regularly and there are better teams than them in ODI/T20 cricket.
Bad enough not picking Rashid earlier......but not to give MOM is shocking guy gets runs and takes 4 wickets in return!! Another indicment.
All the numbers in the right places Peter Moore's style
more proof that NZ are flat track bullies. Mcullum scores double and triple centuries against sub continental teams , yet cant do anything at all against Aus, SA and Eng.
Outstanding stuff from England! Very well played indeed! I couldn't watch this match (clearly my loss) but the scorecard tells much of the story. 400+ in an ODI is what it is: a big score and this came against quality opposition. Looking at the fall of wickets, reading the article and comments etc gives further insight into the match situation especially the superb recovery/counterattack by Buttler and Rashid. So again, well played England and hats off to Buttler and Rashid, Root and Morgan. Finn also did well for his wickets and it'd be good for England to have him fit and firing for ODI's but more importantly, tests. Let's see how it goes from here...
Commiserations NZ. I'm sure they'll simply lick their wounds and look to come back hard next match.
I'm not big on predictions but hopefully this sets the tone for England's future in ODIs (and tests). One thing's for sure though: this ODI series is now well and truly alive!
@CASEYWILLIAMOZ ON JUNE 9, 2015, 20:20 GM- When V Kumar says India is the only other team consistently performing everywhere".-this is what he means-India has won Champions trophy in England where Pakistan finised last, A World Cup in UK, T20 World Cup in South Africa, U19 World cup in Australia beating home side Australia in pool match and easy final, 3 way series in West Indies, thrashed Zimbabwe in Harare 5-0 Thrashed England 4-1 in their recent tour of England!. I the world cup recently -Beat Pakistan in Adelaide, beat South Africa in Melbourne, Beat Windies in Perth! Hope facts and figures dont spoil your day!
Like the look of the new England batting order. The promotions are long overdue giving a chance for quality free scoring batsmen to build a genuine innings. Root and Butler played beautifully and Rashid had a great game. But there is often a bit of luck in an ODI and it was definitely England's today; edges that didn't go to hand, mistimed shots that fell in space etc. and that is often what makes such a daunting total possible. Once that total was on the board it was always going to be do or die for NZ, but frustrating to see McCullum (and others) go to such ugly swipes as if they don't trust their ability to play quality shots for boundaries. NZ certainly missed a container in the middle overs - Henry and McClenaghan bowled too short and Santner and N. Mac too inconsistent.
Whoa back there. Check the scorecard, rub my eyes. Check it again, rub the eyes again. .. This can't be right. England 400+. Check the window. No, the air isn't on fire. The sun still rose in the East this morning. It must be true. ... lol, great play England. It takes something a bit special to relegate the Kiwi's to little more than bit players in a ODI. Now, let's see if you can do it again.
English always start their season after the world cup with a blast. Sometimes it is just a media hype. In this game though they really looked good and played fantastic attacking cricket. Congrats to England, but them kiwis are going to bounce back pretty hard. I think kiwis will take the series. Good luck to kiwis.
This should not make England fans ignore KP. Nice to see that there are some England fans who still want to see the return of KP. Most of the new players flopped except Rashid who is not really new anyway. If they want to see more days like today, they got to bring back KP and hope for the best. Good luck England.
Congratulations to England for finally scoring 400 in a match. It was a good win but please don't get carried away. It is a flash in the pan performance. Unless your team performs consistently not just in home games but away also, it won't count. But considering the bad state England were in before, this should count as a big shock as they beat the World Cup finalists convincingly. Unless they can repeat this, I will remain convinced that England had an exceptionally lucky day and NZ had an exceptionally unfortunate day.
NZ is also an average ODI side although they are light years ahead of England. So this defeat should hurt them. They will look to inflict a similar defeat on England next game. Please remember that Southee was rested. Had he played, I guarantee that England would have been bowled out for 125 like they did in the World Cup.
@JG2704 Ali for Stokes, Tredwell for Plunkett and Taylor (for Billings I assume) would leave us with precisely two seamers in this game. Genius! Fine analysis for tracks in Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe & Bangladesh. Do you want Bell, Cook and Trott back too with their 70ish strike rates? Thankfully England have finally had the brains to play a team of 20 somethings with X factor batsmen, a spinner who can turn the ball both ways and hopefully variety in the pace attack. For Jordan or Plunkett (you were nearly right) go to David Willey - another all rounder and that rarest of English beasts, a left arm seamer....
Very good today from England. It's pretty obvious the previous coach was defensive, negative, in fear of failure and likely to talk an attacking minded player like Buttler into a tiny nervous mouse as was the case in Barbados when Joss took an hour to make 3 not out, before running out of partners. All the psychobabble he spoke served only to disable any talent and also denied Rashid a chance to play a Test in Barbados when it was glaringly obvious to everyone else we needed a spinner instead of another right arm seamer. Just one thing though, not sure England need 2 wicketkeepers in the same side. Billings is obviously very promising but David Willey deserves a chance to add another bowler to the team. Will Farbrace be daring enough to change a winning side as the previous coach wouldn't even change a losing side.
Don't worry, this is just another false English dawn. They will soon enough disappoint as they have for the last fifty years since I have been watching cricket. England have never been a really world beating team and there is no reason to suppose they will be one now.
Hard to understand why we played be another wicketkeeper, Sam Billings unless he took the gloves rather than Buttler who is good enough to be there as a specialist batsman. If we are looking to get another wickie in the side it is hard to see why they are looking beyond Jonny Bairstow.
Few England supporters have understood why either Samit Patel or Adil Rashid were not automatic picks for ODIs for the past few years and certainly since Swann retired.
Root is, of course, a consistent and great performer who may be recognised as one of the Greats later in his career.
Nobody knows what James Taylor has done to offend the selectors though his county form this season is not much to shout about.
Overall all a massive improvement in performance and in selections. Please let it not be a flash in the pan.
Absolutely speechless, Well played England! Finally, we are playing modern day cricket.
Great performance England. It really shows up the previous management/ECB/selectors/coaches, especially Moores for being completely clueless. Not just in the style, attitude & pace of play but they obviously knew nothing about the talent available from the counties. And Rashid, a leg spinner is like gold dust, overlooked for years, as was Lyth & Wood in the Caribbean, how can the people in power know so little about their job? Well the Management seemed to have blundered onto a good team, how long can this be sustained? Let's hope that Roy is not dropped and replaced by Trott, fingers crossed.
Last year it was the same proclamation of a new era by England but Sri Lanka came up trumps then but England seemed to have achieved it this time around at the expense of NZ, I do not think Mcclum's tactics as good as some seem to think & wasted a good chance to go one up than down. Jos innings was as superb as that was against Sri Lanka but this time more pleasurable with the team's win.
Again, the MoM Award is a joke. Not that Buttler did not play a very good innings but his record-breaking partner scored 69 and then proceeded to take 4-55 including the dangerous Williamson and equally dangerous Ronchi. Since when is a world-class all-round performance worth less than a dime-a-dozen century...
My Engalnd team for ODIs
Hales Vince/Roy Root Buttler Roy/Taylor/Batting allrounder Bairstow (WK) Stokes Willey Rashid Plunkett/Jordan Finn
I would drop Morgan from the team. I don't think he is good enough. I would have Vince open the innings with Hales and have Roy in the middle. Either that, or Roy open and have either Taylor or a batting allrounder in the middle. I would count Willey as a bowler.
Incredible scenes for New England here and I still think this 11 could be stronger with Willey and Taylor in it Root just opening with Hales and Taylor 3 with Willey coming in for Jordan although his catching is phenomenal Willey is another deadly batsman and more useful bowler however competition for places is always vital for longevity so this is first time England have had such depth and options moving forward it's very promising signs even if this is just one game.
Well played England. I am sick of all this 'new era' business - a new era must be proved over a season at least.
Does Cpt. Cook marvelous still thinks he should be granted place in this ODI team? He had taken swipe England management for taking the reins off him after WC. It almost brought a tear into eyes (sarcastic :P) to see last top 8 team coming to 21st century ODI cricket.
@kumar. i really enjoy reading your comments. they are always great for a laugh. so illogical and absurd. keep at it buddy.
@DARCY...ha ha. You too? I was at home having lunch and watching the start of the NZ innings remembering how awful Finn has looked in the last couple of years and then....uh oh. That was the kind of shot that would have got me demoted to the 2nd XI back in the day. Simply bush league.
I'm very happy for the poms and to our lot you were simply outplayed. I would have thought after the absolute spanking in the WC final NZ would have come out a little tougher on a flat track with small boundaries. The bowling was shocking and so was some of the fielding. Fair go though, when you are under the pump like that there is little to be gained from treating the rest of the game as a net and cruising to 300-8 or whatever. Death or glory was all that was left. The game was pretty much lost when England got to 408. I will enjoy seeing how both sides react. NZ will be embarrassed and hopefully the poms wont read the UK tabloids that will have their usual rubbish about being world beaters after any victory.
A great victory, but there's a downside to this result - it wasn't a smashing of the foul Australian team. Let's hope we continue to improve and later this summer send the Convicts back tearing each other apart. C'mon England!!!
good game today. batting, bowling and fielding all looked great. kiwis are a good team and they will come back hard. stay positive and keep playing the same brand of cricket. lastly to the indian fans who seem to think, their team plays well away from home. check the stats buddy. you guys are one of the worst travelers in cricket. only good for playing on dust bowls. overrated players with no integrity.
Wow,that was 1 flat pitch!As any ever in Eng of all places.Could've been like any of our own like those here in Bengaluru,Mohali or Eden.Well not quite,but still.Imagine if world's most destructive bat lineup of Aussies here!500 odd would've been on.
So many positives. Mainly NOT seeing Bell and Broad in the ODI side, hopefully this has cemented the 'new school' approach, and boy oh boy is it good to watch. Hopefully Hales will get a good run, he's definitely worth sticking with. Great to see Finn back to some decent form and off his full length run. I think this has set up the series nicely. Well done ENG !
Too soon to say a new era. Let's see if they maintain the form for the rest of the series and then we can better judge. I would like to see Bairstow play as the WK and Buttler play as a batsman, and even if they insist Buttler keep wicket, Bairstow should surely be ahead of Billings who played as batsman in this match. Hales, Roy, Buttler, Bairstow in the same side makes for a good and exciting one day team. At least on paper. I think Buttler should play as batsman and Bairstow as WK in all three formats. It will be a waste if Bairstow had to miss out because they have 'one or the other ' in the minds. Both these guys are good enough to play as batsman only in all three formats for England.
a great team performance. Thought Morgan played as if he had nothing to lose when he had a huge amount to lose !!! Rashid may win the Ashes for us if he carries on like this. Travesty he was not tried in the Caribbean .Root and Butler go from strength to strength.
Need another 4 decent performances !!!
VALAVAN. Don't bother using facts and logic while debating with Indians mate. It's pointless. Negative, annoying and downright unpleasant, that's what they are. Kudos to you guys. Well played.
I certainly didn't expect this performance, even despite all the good noises from interviews. Great way to start afresh for the "New England" in white-ball cricket. Shouldn't get carried away, especially with flat pitch etc but that was a phenomenal effort from the batsmen in particular. Some observations:
1. England's intent/mindset impressed me. They stayed true to their word about positivity. Even when 6 down after 30 overs. Without being reckless.
2. England didn't let spin bog them down.
3. Rather than the new players, it was the class of the seniors Root, Buttler coming through, plus Rashid and Morgan having vital roles.
4. Morgan looked comfortable because he played his natural game.
5. Rashid and Finn were in the wickets which was good to see but you can't judge the bowling much from today. I do have doubts that 4 front-line bowlers plus Stokes will be enough in most games.
As expected,a 1 sided game.But not to this scale,team dishing it out to the oppo.It could've been NZ.No,its Eng!A commanding performance from them.1 thing's for sure,world's 2nd best odi team NZ is ready for an oncore.Interesting to see Eng's response.
A good performance from ENG, however before some supporters below get carried away consistency is required to be classed as a good ODI team, one flash in the pan win does not equate to a good team (remember the test series after the 'new England' won at Lords. However, it must be said that the change of personnel was refreshing to see given ENG's track record. NZ missing two key bowlers that helped ENG's cause as well, I predict a 3-2 NZ win with full team, but should be entertaining at least. I also think NZ made an error in fielding first after winning the toss.
looking forward for NZL to make a comeback as in test, its England series to lose after today's empathetic performance as no way i see nzl to make a come back but i have been surprised before.
Agreed with landl47. Think Adil should have got MOM as he contributed with bat and ball. But, meh. Well played, England. Commiserations, New Zealand. I'm sure they will bounce back in the next few matches. They play aggressive and it either pulls off for them, or like today, it fails. But to be fair, they couldn't grind the innings with 400 on the board.
"Butter, Root..." ha ha, sauteed carrots?!
Well, that was a thrashing! Pity I'm a Kiwi :-(
Awesome to see England come back from the doldrums in style. They really did need a game like this. Sounds like you need to permanently hire Dermot Reeve.
This has been the most heartening performance I've seen from an England side in such a long time. Team looks fresher and better balanced: man of the match could have gone to one of several players. Perhaps a help to no longer have the micro-managing Moores and his rigid tactics inhibiting the side.
VKumar: "India is the only other team consistently performing everywhere". Lol.
So glad to Rashid bowl and do well. total indictment on recent English cricket that he's been left out.
Are we sure that this performance is not a flash in the pan? Look out for the New Zealand rebound!
Great performance from England. I'd have given MoM to Rashid myself; he supported Buttler brilliantly in England's innings and took 4 wickets as well. Moeen who?
The great thing is that this is a very young side. Billings is 23, Buttler, Root, Roy and Stokes are 24, Finn, Hales and Jordan are 26, Rashid is 27 and the two old guys are Morgan at 29 and Plunkett at 30. The other 3 squad members (Taylor, Willey and Wood) are all 25, so this is a side which can stay together for many years.
Great to see England at last playing modern ODI cricket. Long may it continue; there will be stumbles, but keep the faith and it will turn out well.
Wow - Surprising performance. I'll try not to get too carried away. We know what Root and Buttler can do and to be fair most of our newer players didn't do so much. Rashid's performance was huge and in many a game he'd have got MOM for it. From just over200-6 we'd usually struggle to top 250 so to score 400 was amazing. I like him at 8. The 3 players I'd definitely like to get back into our full side are Ali (for Stokes) , Tredwell for Plunket and somehow get Taylor in there. Roy and Billings deserve more opportunities. Morgan contributed today but for me he has to be more consistent to stay captain and in the side
@VKUMAR86, what consistency you speak about, losing to NZ 4-0, and to SA 3-0, loosing the tri-series, is this what you call consistency. India is a good ODI side and England is just average ODI side, even as English fans we know that, Keep your trolls tomorrow with your Test match. England lost to minnow in 2015 and didnt qualify for playoffs, flashback same minnow blew India out of the WC2007. BD is not upto test mark, but a decent ODI side. Keep posting it as you are the bunch of jokers entertaining here with yourpoor knowledge in cricket. cricinfo please publish this...
More proof that the Black Caps are flat track bullies with sub standard bowling and a one dimensional batting attack . 24/6 . Funny how Stephen Fleming once stated that Bangladesh didn't deserve to be playing international cricket. Well guess what team England surpassed when they got to 400 for the first time? Perhaps the next game might be at Eden Park. It isn't? Oh well
So, they were all saying a new era for England after the fist test and look what happened after that .... 1 game doesn't change it, but it is a great start, so lets see if it continues or ends in yet further disappointment!
Breathtaking. Such a one sided, complete performance with NZ absolutely crushed. When Roy, Hales and billings fire this team will be right up there. A day for all true England fans to enjoy, the usual doubters/old guard backers to realise they need to move on, and the Oz trolls to disappear quietly. Marvellous.
See not that hard, thanks for no longer playing Cook, Bell, Anderson
England, awesome. What a turn around. What a turn around for NZ also. Take out some players and change location and (almost) champs become chumps. Not much depth over the dutch :) Great effort from their keepers, Afridi would be impressed.
Clinical stuff in the end. I'm very pleased for Finn-knee; always saw great potential in him and haven't enjoyed his treatment of late. This could be the turning point for him. Raise a glass to Rashid as well everyone, and maybe now more people will understand why most England fans wanted him playing much sooner... (West Indies series and even before that).
What a fantastic way for England to start off the new era of ODI cricket and put away the world cup debacle. This will attract fans. We're were promised attacking cricket and we were let down. Yes the pitch was flat, New Zealand weren't up to their usual standards and England rode their luck at times. Yes we can't get carried away after one game. But it was a phenomenal effort to get to 400, and England benefitted from the positive mindset. They didn't go into their shell even when in trouble. Root and Buttler were outstanding and showed why they're considered our best ODI players. Good to see Morgan involved, while Rashid had an excellent return to the side. It's hard to judge the bowling and New Zealand's batting in such a situation, but goods to see Rashid and Finn bowl well and in these wickets. I still am concerned about playing 5 bowlers including Stokes, and I hope this gets tested during the series. But well done new England! Keep it up please!
We need kp back. This team look united and happy. Bring him back and watch it all go tits
This New Zealand side I like them but they have too many holes with this all out attack the aussies used to use that a lot and they could just dominate but when they lost it was miserable and the kiwis now are employing that but they forget they have lesser stars than what the Aussies had in those days .....kiwi too bad they was no rain next time
Better late than never eh! Feels like such a long time ago England did something promising in ODI's. Only one game and England batted first etc. etc. - I know, but just saying... THIS IS PROMISING STUFF! Keep this up and there will definitely be no excuses to bring back certain underperforming favourites who have done little of note in ODI's.
At the end of the day the 2 century makers are the test players and not the one day specialists. Nothing's change in terms of skill....just an attitude adjustment which we knew from the beginning was what's needed...nothing drastic. I will still maintain that dropping Taylor in favor of Ballance at the last minute and the inclusion of Ian Bell were the ONLY reasons England failed at the WC...nothing more...nothing less.
Well played England. New Zealand not so much...
I have to pinch myself here. I knew Buttler was a superb player but seriously did England score 400+ in an ODI ? Did this really happen ?
english ,,just thnk god it was ur day day..kiwis gonna come hard next match wid anderson in the wing..gonna be a cracker..come on bmac n kiwis lets bang dese homemade so called tigers
Will there be an open bus tour now that England have scored 400 in an ODI???
Wow, got up for work to see this score! Where was this England in the World Cup? 1-0 to England and NZ are still to bat....
good effort that - can we defend it? Well if we dont it at least was a good effort and done in the right spirit. I cant help thinking that sometimes when an incredible score looke ''on'' experienced players subconsciously thought of their averages...so if this is the new age, then maybe that won't be an issue anymore?
Glass cannon out cheaply again. The English batting, wow. Even Captain Clueless got some runs.
I was literally thinking "don't charge, don't charge, please don't charge" as Finn came in to bowl that ball to McCullum. I was thinking it because I saw a little trigger movement from McCullum, you could see he wanted to come down the pitch, he was telegraphing it. And I knew that if I saw it, so did Finn, and what happened? Bowled. You don't have to get 20 off the first over to chase 400, you actually don't. England got 68 from their first ten overs. Not 100, 68. Set the foundation, keep wickets in hand, and the last 15 can go for 200. It's getting stupid now, he plays one good innings at Headingly, he shows signs of having accepted his responsibility as captain again, and then he does this. 400 is big, but it's not THAT big any more, it's chaseable.
Wow! 400 Hard to believe this is a England, but just look what is achievable without the old, stale test players. Root, Buttker and Rashid amazing contributions, intersting to see whether this gives them confidence to select Rashid for tests as he's obviously in form, but what's up with Stokes in ODIs? Whether England go on to win or not, they'll be many a word eaten by posters on these boards.
Great to see England try something new and for it to work. It won't work every time but great whilst it does. We're going to need some high totals given the quality of the opposition at the moment. Slightly ironic that 3/4 of the high scoring batsmen were in the World Cup shambles. Looking forward to seeing Billings, Roy and Hales get some scores in the remaining games. Mind you SA were probably feeling pretty good before AUS beat them in a 400+ a side game a few years back.NZ will certainly give it a go with confidence but I don;t fancy their chances.
Whoah, clearly it's all in the mind. Something for the English fans to get excited about.
Brilliant!! Hope this carries on for England.. World cricket needs highly competitive teams! Buttler is a gem.
there is a saying tht dont poke the bear. probably this could b the start of the 2.0 of english cricket.im pretty sure buzz will go after .we ar in for a cracker of a match
Just a couple of points: some batsmen made low scores, but they all got out to attacking shots (the only batsman who didn't was Morgan). That's what happens when you play like that, as New Zealand well knows. It was great to see players taking on the bowling instead of poking around, and those who failed this time shouldn't worry, their turn will come.
Very impressed with Rashid. We knew Buttler and Root could do this. It was Rashid's first game for 5 years and he didn't play it safe at all. Terrific effort.
Root and Butler, World class
Good stuff from the Poms. Finally, they let go and play with some aggression.
Where were Root & Buttler in WC...Eng lost all matches to top teams including a minnow in WC...in a favouring condition of NZ & Aussies...Fans say India is home track bully...After Aus & SA, India is the only other team consistently performing everywhere (barring tri series in Aus) in ODI's... sorry to say these meaningless centuries have no worth untill you perform at highest level...anyhow congrats poms for reaching 400 runs mark first time in ODI (India & SA already achieved 5 times)
Losing a wicket on the very 1st ball, any team would settle for 408.
Incredible work by England's young guns, repaid the faith. Bowlers should be able to back it up. The letters k and p don't seem so significant now.
Game not over yet. New Zealand have the power and class of McCullum, Guptill, Taylor, Williamson etc. Finn will be carrying there mental baggage of last time the sides met. Rashid and Plunkett are essentially on second debuts. Stokes hasn't suggested he's a 5th bowler in white-ball cricket YET. And when Jordan has an off day it goes horribly wrong.
Brilliant from England with the bat though. Led by the seniors Root, Morgan, Buttler and supported fantastically by Rashid. Excellent intent shown from England, staying true to their word, while they didn't let the loss of wickets phase them.
I definitely did not see England getting 400 after dropping out of the world cup early. Some young blood and fresh faces in odi's might be just what they need
Shame England didn't pick KP. It would have been at least 500. I can't believe how negative Strauss is. Even Bangladesh was v got 450 on this tiny ground. Boundaries she be a minimum 80 metres. NZ to win in 25 overs.
Am I the only one who finds it amusing that 3 of the 4 top contributions came from players who were at the World cup and that only Rashid of the new guard contributed to the England total?
Back to reality for Mcclenaghan. International cricket is different league than IPL. Wonderful batting by Butler, root n Rashid. Hoping for some fire work from NZ now.
well played England.....playing positive is the way to go.....NZ will not play any other way but to win but hmmmm.....haha
Wow. Brilliant from England. That's how you respond to the world cup debacle any try to re-engage with fans. You score 400. Yes New Zealand will have better days in the field. Yes England rode their luck at times. Yes that pitch was a batting paradise. Yes we shouldn't get carried away. But that was an astonishing effort. England's style of play was very pleasing, as was the way they dealt with spin. They didn't go into their shell and stayed true to their word about this attacking cricket. No surprise Root getting involved. He has been the best in the side for a while. In 2014 he scored 3 of England's 7 hundreds. Great to see the other seniors, Morgan and Buttler, play their natural games and score runs. Excellent from Rashid as well. Fantastic for England.
I still am concerned about the balance of the side though. 4 bowlers plus Stokes? Glad to see them backing him, but I thought the world cup taught us the need for 5 genuine bowlers.
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Care to call that one again? Great to see the England haters squirm.
Hales is fast running out of chances at ODI level. Over 10 matches, average of 21, strike rate of 78, highest score of 42. People were on Ballance's back after his poor ODI form. Hales should be facing some scrutiny now
Fantastic team contribution; now defend it!
Absolutely amazing!! Englands highest ever score! Just goes to show what can be achieved without the likes of Cook and Bell in the side.
Where are all those Oz trolls now?
English politics kept Rashid out of the teams fir the last 2 year or more..... Well sine lad. Is it one asian at a time? Monty out Ali in, now Ali out Rashid in......
BMAC will coke out swinging....
Terrific hundred by Buttler and ably supported by Rashid.
This might have been England's fastest 300. The problem is, they might still loose.
great to see England finally playing 1 day experts.
This match is pepped up to be "ENG re-admission to ODI format" game, and they have started in flambuoyant fashion. However, they are set to gain that re-admission marked by a batting collapse only they can fashion. Six down within 30 ovs, never mind the total on board, is sure to re-establish them as pioneers of batting collapses!
I was right. now nz is ontop
feel like root got out at the wrong time and have put nz back in the game
England playing pretty good so far good 100 from joe root still 25 overs left need a partnership this 2 then go after
Oh wow, Root is out as soon as I turned on the telly. Shame he couldn't kick on.
Amazing hundred by Root, btw.
Root proving why he is one of MY favourite youngsters along with Smith, Williamson, Kohli and Rahane.
The NZ bowling certainly wasn't at it's strongest but it was most encouraging to see the way in which England went about their business, They had some luck but that is often the way in limited-overs cricket particularly. If you put the opposition under pressure then they will make more mistakes, so some credit for that luck goes to England too. Another point to note is that, other than Rashid, the new blood didn't really contribute too much. Is that a sign of England's more-experienced players feeling more freedom? If the new boys fire as well then we may indeed see some bigger scores from England.
Root proving why he is one of MY favourite youngsters along with Smith, Williamson, Kohli and Rahane.
Amazing hundred by Root, btw.
Oh wow, Root is out as soon as I turned on the telly. Shame he couldn't kick on.
England playing pretty good so far good 100 from joe root still 25 overs left need a partnership this 2 then go after
feel like root got out at the wrong time and have put nz back in the game
I was right. now nz is ontop
This match is pepped up to be "ENG re-admission to ODI format" game, and they have started in flambuoyant fashion. However, they are set to gain that re-admission marked by a batting collapse only they can fashion. Six down within 30 ovs, never mind the total on board, is sure to re-establish them as pioneers of batting collapses!
great to see England finally playing 1 day experts.
This might have been England's fastest 300. The problem is, they might still loose.
Terrific hundred by Buttler and ably supported by Rashid.