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[–]orangejulius 1000 points1001 points  (174 children)

Less than a month later, in February of 2015, I received a call from Ellen stating that I was to be terminated in less than a week. When I asked what the specific reason was, she had roughly stated that “because of our discussion, you are too sick to properly fulfill your duties as Community Manager.” (At no point during our meeting was this stated - I had raised concerns about the stress levels of Community Management, but had ultimately decided that it was something I could easily manage.)

That's a bit fucked up. I'm sorry to hear this happened to you.

What are you working on now? I really hope that even though reddit turned toxic for you that you're still able to be creative in other work.

(I'm a mod here) - what was your impression of the black out and IAMA's role?

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 598 points599 points  (94 children)

My experience at reddit was almost universally amazing. Well, up until that last week, I guess. I'm currently unemployed, though that is by choice. I've been really trying to take the last few months to get healthy. While I could probably take certain jobs that require minimal physical effort, I still have plenty of side-effects from all of the health crap I went through. Some days can definitely be rough.

As far as the blackouts, I support them. I was even the person who took down /r/gaming. I hope they really bring change to reddit, though I'm honestly not holding my breath. I guess we'll see what happens, though.

[–]Raudskeggr 57 points58 points  (2 children)

You know, I was suspicious of Pao from the get-go, because there were far too many shady rumors and allegations surrounding her, as well as the controversy with her former employer/married lover.

But I chose to keep as optimistic as possible; and maybe Reddit is not yet starting its downward spiral of circling the drain, but I don't think Pao is a good choice of leadership for the company.

Someone who fired an employee for having cancer is a failure both as a leader and as a human being. Reddit users will not trust or respect someone who they know only gives a fuck about themselves. They'll only be open to someone who demonstrates that they care as much about Reddit as the users do.

And most signs point towards the Idea that Pao just wants to make her bucks and keep things going until she can lave to work for a company that can afford to pay her more.

For one thing, Nobody who knows her seems to have good things to say about her. Not on a personal level. All but a small minority of the reddit community has intensely negative feeling for her, and the main reason that handful liked her was mostly because the others did not; and this firing of a universally-liked employee has probably turned that handful around too.

It's a big mistake for the company's leadership to try and turn reddit into something it's not. Paid AMAs? Video amas? I've heard these rumors, and twice now people close to Reddit have said similar. Sponsorship and ads, sure; but you have to do it in a way that doesn't fundamentally compromise what Reddit is, and what function it serves to its users.

Furthermore, the complete neglect and disregard for the users, and especially the moderators of key subreddits, demonstrates a lack of understanding by Pao and co., that while Reddit may be a privately held company owned by a handful of shareholders, They only own the building and the hardware; Reddit has always been really owned and run by the user base. And if they push the wrong buttons, the users will move somewhere else where they can get the experience they want--and if that place doesn't exist, they'll make it.

[–]Ewannnn 134 points135 points  (13 children)

A leopard can't change its spots. If what we've heard about Reddit's upper management now is true, I sincerely doubt we'll see any meaningful change.

[–]TehAlpacalypse 38 points39 points  (8 children)

I knew it was bad but this is just depressingly awful :(

[–]blaze-one 28 points29 points  (5 children)

Indeed. Time for everybody to turn on Adblock.

[–]mr_rivers1 123 points124 points  (25 children)

Have you thought about taking legal action against her? Could this not be percieved as discrimination? I dont know enough about the US legal system to be sure.

EDIT: sorry, forgot to add, I hope you get better. I have a few lifelong chronic conditions, and its absolutely heartbreaking to see someone get a responce like this from someone. Don't give up, find employment with someone who appreciates the work you put in, and actually has a heart.

[–]Acebulf 141 points142 points  (22 children)

It's definitely discrimination and forbidden by the ADA.

[–]mr_rivers1 182 points183 points  (9 children)

Filing a legitimate discrimination case against Ellen Pao would be hilarious quite frankly. I bet you could source the fund from redditors

[–]hedronist 23 points24 points  (6 children)

Post the link and I'm in for $10.

[–]Helassaid 17 points18 points  (3 children)

Wouldn't that be fucking poetic?

Reddit users crowdfunding the legal fees to sue Reddit's discrimination-lawsuit-happy CEO for discrimination.

EDIT: /r/legaladvice needs to chime in here. I'm definitely in, if there's a case to be had.

[–]-wellplayed- 13 points14 points  (9 children)

Not that a lawsuit for this wouldn't be justified and amazing, but what proof would he have?

[–]Cpt_Duo 14 points15 points  (4 children)

That's what discovery and depositions are for

[–]WongFarmHand 65 points66 points  (32 children)

Do you think that completely boycotting Gold would have any significant effect? Hard to tell how much they rely on it

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 131 points132 points  (28 children)

As reddit Gold's former Product Manager (only for a short while, since it was right before I relapsed), I can say that in my personal opinion, I doubt it makes a huge difference.

[–]cautiously_exuberant 49 points50 points  (24 children)

Could you elaborate on that? Where does reddit make most of its money?

[–]Ewannnn 8 points9 points  (15 children)

Advertising would be my guess. Then again I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't cover running costs, as with other startups they probably rely a lot on outside funding. It's difficult to effectively monetize sites like this, it took Facebook years to do it & I'm not sure YT & Twitter are even making any money yet. Investors like it for the user information stockpile though I guess.

[–]Yoxuu 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I hope your rough days get a lot easier and you can get back to living a very healthy life.

[–]Uncentury 88 points89 points  (2 children)

Dacvak's ex-gf here. I remember when he got the calls saying he was fired and Ellen said she was worried that the job would cause "too much stress" for him. Like forcing someone to find a job while they're still in recovery from leukemia and have now been out of the tech industry for three years isn't more stressful?

[–]orangejulius 31 points32 points  (1 child)

My jaw was hanging open when I read this post. Getting fired for having cancer is one of the worst things I have heard of a company doing.

[–]Uncentury 24 points25 points  (0 children)

It was such a surprise for us. He'd check in every once in a while with Erik over the years to make sure he had a job, and it was not problem. Then he went to SF in January and he was STILL assured a job by Ellen. And then, less than a month later when he is finally close to getting ready to move out, she drops the bomb. It was so shitty.

[–]ratherinteresting 374 points375 points  (6 children)

This quote speaks more about Pao than anything else I have seen about her.

Disgusting.

[–]Seraph_Grymm 87 points88 points  (1 child)

Yeah it's pretty sick. I didn't have a strong opinion one way or the other before, just some messed up chick that I never interact with despite my heavy activity.

This just put me into full blown loathing for her.

[–]TonyQuark 35 points36 points  (0 children)

"We're keeping you on. No, you're fired. You're hired back. You're fired anyway."

[–]SuperConductiveRabbi 85 points86 points  (1 child)

She's a sociopath. She'll lie to your face and then fire your ass. If she were in his position she'd already have five lawyers and be on Oprah talking about how she was fired due to sexism, racism, and misogyny in tech.

[–]bullgodz 299 points300 points  (43 children)

Holy shizz. The nukes have been sent. Pao fired someone for leukemia when originally they were slated to stay with the company until he got better. Pao is utterly despicable as a person. Thoughts are with you /u/Dacvak

[–]razorbeamz 88 points89 points  (41 children)

Isn't that illegal?

[–]bullgodz 80 points81 points  (37 children)

Not technically no. But its in bad taste as he had already been told that he is ok to stay.

[–]KateGlass 68 points69 points  (35 children)

Wait I just wanna check. Are you saying that in America, if your sick you can be terminated from employment for being on long term sick?

[–]IPhone6SroseGold 44 points45 points  (4 children)

Here's a lawyer from just answer. I don't think it's legal. But it might be a pain to fight it?

http://www.justanswer.com/law/173mi-cancer-patient-fired.html#re.v/172/

[–]ElegantRedditQuotes 27 points28 points  (1 child)

It's a pain to fight anything in the US, even up to thirty years ago. My mom had a very legit case against the doctor and hospital that delivered my sister, but because of how long it would take and the difficulties involved, she decided not to sue. It's not an easy undertaking.

[–]girlgeek_glasses 16 points17 points  (16 children)

We have the FMLA (Family medical leave act) which ensures that your job or a simiiar one will be held for up to 12 weeks per year. After that 12 weeks, your protection is gone. Also, FMLA is unpaid leave, employers are not required to pay you.

[–]Zombieball 25 points26 points  (11 children)

Wow! I am continually shocked by just how behind USA is in matters such as this. Sending women back to work mere days after child birth, firing people with cancer, it really is disgusting.

[–]jabberpop 11 points12 points  (0 children)

extremely bad taste. Esp after /u/Dacvak was ready to return

[–]JohnGM 58 points59 points  (0 children)

Wow, that's flat out heartless. Fired as he was almost ready to come back after battling cancer.

[–]Phaz0r 122 points123 points  (8 children)

This woman is a fucking disgrace to humanity. Holy shit it's so disgusting it's almost funny. Is this actually real??! Fuck me.

[–]totallynotafake007 70 points71 points  (7 children)

Ellen Pao I hope you read this. /u/ekjp

[–]Phaz0r 31 points32 points  (2 children)

I feel sick to my stomach after reading it. I'm deleting this reddit app. Fuck this shit guys.

[–]Rikvidr 8 points9 points  (0 children)

"We can't discuss any individual employees."

[–]Herpaderpedo 22 points23 points  (6 children)

That can't be legal, to fire someone cause they are "too sick". Do laws like FMLA not apply to online businesses?

[–]lactose_tolerent 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Under that philosophy, shouldn't she resign because she is too busy appealing her lawsuit to be an effective CEO?

[–]BurntFlower 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Holy shit, this is completely fucked up.

[–]FaLLeNTaCO1 245 points246 points  (111 children)

Thanks so much for posting this AMA so quickly.

In your opinion, what is currently the biggest problem with how Reddit is run/managed?

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 449 points450 points  (110 children)

There was a definite shift in culture when Ellen took the reigns as CEO. The first company-wide meetings/seminars were absolutely nothing like they used to be. They felt very "fortune 500 business-y" as opposed to "tight-knit start up company...-y".

As reddit grows, it needs to find a way to self-sustain, as I doubt it's making money yet. This is probably all just part of its change.

I'm not sure it's the right direction for the site, though.

[–]OP_is_a_MiG-15 159 points160 points  (87 children)

I've heard speculation that Ellen Pao was brought in to help monetize the site. Your experience seems to support that.

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 628 points629 points  (83 children)

Not really. To be honest, the only reason Ellen was made CEO was because Yishan has unexpectedly left reddit. Yishan, I believe, had Ellen step up as interim CEO just until they were able to find a more qualified one. Eventually, though, Ellen just stayed CEO.

When someone at our company meeting someone bluntly asked "You stated you were the interim CEO and that reddit was looking for one to replace Yishan. Are we still looking for a new CEO, and if not, why should we trust you to do the job?"

She literally responded with "You'll have to pry this position from my cold, dead hands!!!" which was met with applause. To be totally honest, I just sat there dumbfounded. It was one of the most non-answers I had ever heard.

[–]NetTrap 334 points335 points  (17 children)

She literally responded with "You'll have to pry this position from my cold, dead hands!!!"

What. The. Fuck.

[–]JeremyQ 115 points116 points  (9 children)

Wow, so I guess that petition isn't going to do much.

[–]ScrewYouIDontCare 66 points67 points  (1 child)

well thats pretty obvious

[–]dcgigs 39 points40 points  (2 children)

Unless.. you know.. we pry it from her cold, dead hands.

[–]TheHobbyist94 61 points62 points  (6 children)

"You'll have to pry this position from my cold, dead hands!!!"

Holy fuck someone please photoshop that onto a picture of Ellen Pao right now.

That's not a non-answer. That's a fucking hissy fit.

Edit: Ooh boy the pics are coming in now.

From /u/HeilChairmanPao https://i.imgur.com/yrxwjo3.jpg

From /u/Iximi https://i.imgur.com/97yUgQP.jpg

From /u/kekkomatic http://i.imgur.com/1HPNQy8.gif

[–]cheeseless 75 points76 points  (8 children)

So when you said she was "nice", you actually meant "a bitch".

[–]lolthr0w 10 points11 points  (3 children)

imao if that's "nice" who does he call "mean"?

[–]8bitremixguy 15 points16 points  (0 children)

You'll have to pry this position from my cold, dead hands

Wow, I'm speechless

[–]sixf0ur 23 points24 points  (0 children)

She really sounds like a great boss to work for! /s

[–]vinee060708 11 points12 points  (3 children)

It was met with applause...feel like i have seen this somewhere.

[–]Tealight_Addict 10 points11 points  (0 children)

"So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause."

[–]IPhone6SroseGold 63 points64 points  (8 children)

There has been speculation that Ellen Pao doesn't really know how to use reddit. Do you have any knowledge of that?

[–]ngwoo 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Well she has an account and posts on the site, but firing people for having cancer takes a lot of time away from posting.

[–]SEND_ME__BOOB_PICS 50 points51 points  (3 children)

She once tried to post a link to a PM in her inbox.

[–]JAGoMAN 18 points19 points  (7 children)

If you look at this picture of the amount of gold subreddits have been giving out, do you think that is enough for reddit to sustain or make money off of or is it too little still?

[–]Herax 17 points18 points  (1 child)

The last day i have seen it mentioned several times that Reddit is apparently run as if it had 5000 employees, when it has about 60. Can't really see the reason why a company with only 60 employees, and is far from being profitable would benefit from that kind of corporate culture.

[–]aryst0krat 368 points369 points  (36 children)

Barring Ellen Pao stepping down (the easy answer the seething masses are clamouring for) what steps would reddit have to take, in your mind, to repair the damage done to it recently?

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 428 points429 points  (35 children)

To be frank, it'll probably only take time. I doubt this will have a huge affect on anything. That seems to be the philosophy as of late. As long as people keep coming to the site, which they will, I doubt we'd see any huge changes in operation.

[–]aryst0krat 89 points90 points  (5 children)

That's my view as well. Thanks Dacvak. I hope your health is holding. I have a lot of cancer in my family and I know it's rough.

[–]ratherinteresting 34 points35 points  (18 children)

As long as people keep coming to the site

Without the passionate community, thats not a given...

[–]OP_is_a_MiG-15 32 points33 points  (15 children)

I'm so not sure. I think a lot of the visitors to this site are casual users who don't have accounts and browse the defaults. Even if Reddit loses its niche communities, as long as it caters to the mainstream, they'll probably be fine.

[–]SixBiscuit 39 points40 points  (6 children)

If this is the mindset of reddit's leadership team then they're fucking idiots. If anything the history of social media is littered with companies that thought they'd be fine because they were the big name to go to. It's not simply Digg but MySpace, AOL, Yahoo, etc.

[–]OMGMajorRager 94 points95 points  (16 children)

Did you ever consider pursuing legal action against Pao/Reddit? Assuming you had something in writing form previous management, that could be considered wrongful dismissal.

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 113 points114 points  (14 children)

I did talk to a lawyer. I believe, legally speaking, she had a right to terminate me for any reason since reddit is a private company.

[–]apfpilot 22 points23 points  (3 children)

even if you are an at will employee there are a few reasons that you can't be fired for. Among those disabilities but there are even then limitations within those categories. If you talked to a lawyer I hope that you made it clear why you were told you were fired and not just that you were fired and were an at will employee.

[–]IPhone6SroseGold 824 points825 points  (89 children)

Wait. Ellen Pao fired you because you had cancer? Fucking unreal.

[–]ratherinteresting 385 points386 points  (16 children)

Not only is she a bad CEO, she's also plain bad as a human being.

Epic fail.

[–]Adamapplejacks 112 points113 points  (14 children)

And yet /u/kn0thing seems to support her 100%... What went wrong? What the hell is going on behind the scenes?

[–]Suppafly 76 points77 points  (3 children)

And yet /u/kn0thing seems to support her 100%

He may be just not willing to speak out to keep his job.

[–]Adamapplejacks 41 points42 points  (2 children)

Man, I dunno. He hasn't been quiet on the issue. He's been full-blown in support of Ellen Pao. And as this IAMA post points out, he is the one who personally fired Victoria.

[–]Vincenttb 5 points6 points  (0 children)

We knew that already, right? Enough evidence of her and her husband stealing millions of retired firefighters during the FPH drama. Then many people said that it wasn't true because fattie haters posted it.

I really think it's funny how the standards have changed so quickly. Basicly everyone is circlejerking now.

[–]shinealittlelove 251 points252 points  (29 children)

If this was in the UK that would be an immediate lawsuit.

[–]tigereyes69 41 points42 points  (0 children)

It is potentially illegal under federal and California state law (though employment law is highly fact specific, so you can't make a conclusion for certain based on a reddit post).

Sources on Labor Law: ADA Website (search "Cancer"); cancer.org

[–]UTF64 166 points167 points  (15 children)

Same for most other civilized countries.

[–]tianan 108 points109 points  (26 children)

Isn't that pretty damn illegal?

[–]JeremyQ 59 points60 points  (1 child)

He got fired for having cancer by the epitome of cancer.

[–]Kaorimoch 18 points19 points  (0 children)

And she thought it was worth suing her old employer because she beleived she didn't get a promotion due to sexism, an argument she lost. Hypocrite.

[–]babno 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That's about a 957 times stronger lawsuit case than Pao vs Kleiner Perkins.

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 382 points383 points  (138 children)

I know I'm the person doing the AMA right now, but I actually have a question for you guys. Are there any good alternatives to reddit at the moment?

[–]Cike176 209 points210 points  (30 children)

http://voat.co is the most similar right now

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 221 points222 points  (11 children)

Hah, cool site. Maybe I'll send in an application. :P

[–]Cike176 69 points70 points  (2 children)

Good luck! Last I heard it was two guys in a dorm but I'm sure with recent events they'll grow at least a little

[–]L4MB 77 points78 points  (6 children)

They'll need serious server upgrades if they're going to be a viable alternative.

[–]Cike176 35 points36 points  (2 children)

Sure, but as they get more traffic they'll work on that

[–]wggn 20 points21 points  (4 children)

reddit hug of death incoming...

[–]mothaway 11 points12 points  (2 children)

http://hubski.com/

Some people in the irc were recommending hubski, but I've never been there (and they're down right now from the exodus traffic.)

[–]ThisIsReLLiK 122 points123 points  (37 children)

People keep crying voat.co, but that site isn't very reliable.

[–]timawesomeness 36 points37 points  (1 child)

Voat has actually been great when everyone isn't rushing at it. I've been there for a while, and the site has been very stable for the most part.

[–]IPhone6SroseGold 168 points169 points  (13 children)

Neither was reddit first 9 years. Give voat time - they are going from literally no traffic to one of the most popular websites on the Internet. Not over months or weeks - these spikes are overnight. Just as reddit had a learning curve, voat will too.

[–]ThisIsReLLiK 31 points32 points  (6 children)

Yeah, I won't give up on it yet...it just isn't a suitable replacement at the moment like everyone is suggesting.

[–]3karma9 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Voat is trying... maybe at some point it could be a suitable alternative

[–]beaverteeth92 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Snapzu is nice and does some things differently from Reddit. Like instead of karma, it has experience points and a level-up system.

[–]Acadiaa[🍰] 107 points108 points  (14 children)

Do you think reddit will go the way of Digg?

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 136 points137 points  (10 children)

Probably not. The circumstances of Digg were sort of unforeseen because there hadn't been a website like that before. And while reddit is unique, the internet itself has changed so greatly since Digg was popular that there are way more ways reddit could survive, even if they pissed off a majority of their faithful community.

Consider that a vast, vast majority of reddit's users (not necessarily registered users) never comment, hardly vote, and only come to the site for pictures of cats (and the like). If BuzzFeed can exist, then reddit will have no problem staying alive.

But that doesn't mean that by pissing off its community reddit won't take a hit. Personally, I'd much rather see reddit be fixed than reddit get destroyed from the inside out.

[–]JeremyQ 49 points50 points  (7 children)

But those people that come here for pictures and such wouldn't have anything to look at if the active contributors all left, would they? I think that was the point of this blackout- to show that we're what makes this site what it is, and without us it's nothing.

[–]Homelessbrian 316 points317 points  (96 children)

Do you support the petition to get Chairman Pao to step down?

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 322 points323 points  (59 children)

Is there actually a petition?

[–]zeroneo 274 points275 points  (50 children)

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 619 points620 points  (47 children)

Well, shit.

I honestly have nothing against Ellen, personally. She was always super nice to me, and I wish her nothing but the best.

That being said, I personally do not agree that she is the right person to be running reddit right now. With that, the petition just grew by one signature.

[–]offmychest135 593 points594 points  (31 children)

Fires me because cancer

.

Always super nice to me

[–]Balmarog 190 points191 points  (23 children)

Does not compute.

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 140 points141 points  (10 children)

To be fair, I really only ever interacted with her before she was made CEO. That was the only time I ever worked with her, and she was nice to me. Once she became CEO, I was already sick again, so I don't know, maybe something changed.

[–]hallowbirthweenday 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Remember, he's not anonymous like we are. He needs to find another job someday, and going around bad-mouthing your ex-employer (even if she is a heartless cunt) doesn't bode well for getting a new job.

He's being very professional and diplomatic. Don't worry, /u/Dacvak, we know exactly what you want to say about Ellen Pao.

[–]KidKarate 23 points24 points  (4 children)

Yeah something isnt right here

[–]SHEESHKAH 12 points13 points  (0 children)

THIS GOES ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP

[–]ay1717 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Discriminates against cancer. That's something you don't see everyday.

[–]Yoxuu 122 points123 points  (0 children)

With that, the petition just grew by one signature.

Well shit. That had some weight behind it.

[–]icyone 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Super nice? Man, she fired you for being sick and lied to you about it. For serious, you're a goddamn saint.

Further, fuck cancer. Beat that shit so hard.

[–]JeremyQ 20 points21 points  (1 child)

She was nice to you by firing you for having cancer?

[–]ThisIsReLLiK 17 points18 points  (0 children)

She fired you because of a health issue, she is an asshole. Plain and simple.

[–]thepetitionthrowaway 6 points7 points  (5 children)

Thank you for signing the petition! I am the one who created it and have been trying to keep it alive.

[–]better_off_now 7 points8 points  (0 children)

There is. Here's the petition.

[–]moodyswingman 124 points125 points  (23 children)

How has the arrival of Ellen Pao affected work at Reddit?

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 264 points265 points  (22 children)

First off I want to state that I think Ellen Pao, as a person, is super nice and fun to be around. I always thought that of her when I was at reddit. However, some of the decisions she's made since she took the helm, well, I guess I'd just say that I would have made different ones. It's no longer the company it was years ago.

In my opinion, reddit is trying to grow into something more sustainable, like Facebook. It's becoming less a community and more a one-stop-shop for quick entertainment. There's nothing wrong with that, per se, as it does serve a purpose to the internet, but it's definitely not what reddit was about years ago.

[–]ParkGeunhye 94 points95 points  (2 children)

In my opinion, reddit is trying to grow into something more sustainable, like Facebook. It's becoming less a community and more a one-stop-shop for quick entertainment.

Well put and exactly how I see it too. All the growth and direction originally came from the users here but now the owners are trying to shape it into something else. It leaves a nasty taste in my mouth.

[–]Creatrix 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Agreed. I've been here for 8 years and it's definitely feeling like it's shifting towards social media.

[–]QforQ 9 points10 points  (1 child)

How would you balance those two things together? On one side you have a business that needs to become an actual sustainable business, and on the other side you have a longstanding community that should be respected and kept in the loop as the company/site changes and expands.

What would you do or what would you like to see done?

[–]Coenn 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It's becoming less a community and more a one-stop-shop for quick entertainment.

Like selling sauna's in the sahara. Like tears in rain.

[–]Projectmayhem666 34 points35 points  (4 children)

When she's not backstabbing and making false allegations for greed, I'm sure she's a lovely person.

[–]phillyboy673 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You really are a stand-up guy. Stay healthy man.

[–]Gubbit 207 points208 points  (34 children)

Do you agree with recent practices enforced by Ellen Pao? (Deleting TPP posts, banning /r/fatpeoplehate etc.)

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 473 points474 points  (19 children)

I'm not fully aware of anything Ellen Pao has explicitly done in the last few months. To be honest, I have been sort of staying away from reddit. It kind of makes me sad to be here.

[–]chancellorjay 369 points370 points  (4 children)

We're all sad to be here.

[–]TheTrue_Patriot 66 points67 points  (1 child)

Ain't that the truth

[–]Meowkit 27 points28 points  (0 children)

It's the stockholm syndrome man!!

[–]Bakatar 22 points23 points  (0 children)

:(

[–]Phlebas99 14 points15 points  (7 children)

What do you do instead when you find yourself on the internet? I'd be interested in finding a replacement for reddit.

[–]boombotser 10 points11 points  (4 children)

exactly, I've tried to get away from Reddit's cold clutches once before but I had no where to go so I just turned around and ran back in

[–]zaytonday 113 points114 points  (16 children)

Do you think reddit is dying?

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 275 points276 points  (15 children)

Dying? No. Changing? Yes. This website is huge. Even if you got rid of literally every single person affected by today's events, there would still be plenty more to keep the site running. I mean, look at BuzzFeed. That exists.

[–]ratherinteresting 166 points167 points  (12 children)

In that sense, Digg never died either. It still exists...

[–]crabjuice23 109 points110 points  (11 children)

Myspace? Still breathing.

[–]ratherinteresting 109 points110 points  (10 children)

AOL? My dads email is with them.

[–]psychologyfox 51 points52 points  (7 children)

I still have a couple of CDs in case anyone wanted some.

[–]anyjungleinguy 29 points30 points  (1 child)

What happened with kickme444?

Looks like it hit him hard:

You can say "it's business" but when you pour your heart into it, and others do too, it really hurts to lose it.

https://twitter.com/kickme444

[–]pwtercitygymleader 165 points166 points  (50 children)

What is your opinion on /u/kn0thing's "popcorn" comment?

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 143 points144 points  (42 children)

Alexis, or /u/kn0thing, has always been one of my personal heroes. He's the reason why I wanted to work at reddit.

I'm sure at this point he's just trying to find a way to bring the defaults back. I mean, I'd probably do the same in his position.

[–]-wellplayed- 92 points93 points  (5 children)

According to the new mod post at /r/iama he was the one who terminated Victoria's employment.

[–]offmychest135 174 points175 points  (29 children)

Aaaaaaaand avoided.

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 188 points189 points  (26 children)

Okay. I think that his "popcorn comment" was just that. It was a response to a heavy situation that required some sort of fix on reddit's end. I don't think it was necessarily the right move, but I just don't think there were any better alternatives giving the position they were in.

[–]DanBennett 81 points82 points  (8 children)

I agree. I don't think he meant to come across as a twat in that comment. Just, with what it turned to become, he did. He apologised. That apology should be accepted imo.

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 133 points134 points  (4 children)

I used to be on his end of the drama. I know what it's like to have the community hate you while simultaneously trying to get something big resolved. It's an "unwinnable" situation.

It's not unlikely that Alexis truly means the very best for the community and genuinely wants to find a way to solve this entire debacle. But, right now, nothing he says will satisfy everyone.

That's all speculation from the sidelines, though.

[–]DanBennett 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Oh agreed. If you were still part of the team you'd be getting just as much shit, let's be honest. Good on you doing this and hope things aren't too bad for you!

[–]readyallrow 29 points30 points  (3 children)

Wow, so you were basically fired because you had/have (?) leukemia? Isn't that grounds for a lawsuit?

My actual question has more to do with the whole SF thing. I've seen it come up so many times in the last couple days and I feel like I remember seeing something about it in the news awhile ago but I never actually knew why Reddit was so adamant about everyone moving to SF. Do you know why they wanted everyone in the same place vs. having a NY office and a SF office? You might not be able to answer this one but did they do/offer anything to "sweeten the deal" to convince people to move out there?

Thanks for doing this!

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 66 points67 points  (2 children)

You might not be able to answer this one but did they do/offer anything to "sweeten the deal" to convince people to move out there?

Yeah. They said we'd be fired if we didn't move. lol.

[–]theophilus153 34 points35 points  (2 children)

  • How is your health now?

  • What is your current employment status and are you happy with what you are doing?

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 26 points27 points  (1 child)

It's getting better. I still have some rough days, and I'm definitely still super weak. But I'm a hell-of-a-lot better than I was a year ago.

I'm currently unemployed, focusing on health. But I've been looking down a number of different avenues. I think I'd like to go back into game development, possibly.

[–]razorbeamz 15 points16 points  (3 children)

What was the worst part of working at Reddit?

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 28 points29 points  (2 children)

Trying to convince the community that you were honestly on their side in a time when it was really easy to blame the admins for sometime. In that way, I totally sympathize for the reddit employees.

[–]Aerron 75 points76 points  (12 children)

Did you shake Ellen's hand? If so, what was the handshake like? Did she grasp your hand firmly and look you in the eye while doing so or was it a "limp fish" handshake without eye-contact?

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 168 points169 points  (9 children)

She fired me over the phone.

[–]DanBennett 11 points12 points  (0 children)

God. That's like getting a text from your SO saying they're splitting up with you.

[–]jonsnow23 21 points22 points  (0 children)

he was probably afraid to give her a firm handshake because she would sue for battery

[–]jongbag 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Do you think there is any website or community comparable to Reddit?

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 18 points19 points  (2 children)

I was just informed about voat.co. It looks pretty neat.

[–]Typo-Kign 37 points38 points  (0 children)

What can we, as users, do to fix this mess? Is "The Darkening" sending a message, or are we being too dramatic?

[–]thetechgeek4 24 points25 points  (4 children)

whats your favorite video game?

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 34 points35 points  (3 children)

I'm a competitive Smash Bros Melee player, so that's definitely my favorite. But I barely consider that a game anymore. My favorite actual game would probably be Mario 64.

[–]Svenukm 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Do you think that communication between admins and the moderators of this site needs to be a priority? What changes do you think would benefit the community?

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

More transparency, probably.

[–]WORSHIPS_THE_DEVIL 22 points23 points  (1 child)

What is the reddit company culture like?

Do you think that the current admins mostly sympathize with the userbase? Are their hands tied when it comes to orders handed down from above?

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Back when it was a smaller team, the culture was amazing. Even though we were sometimes frustrated with the community, we always sympathized with them and tried to do right by them. They were always who we had first in mind, honestly.

I haven't been around reddit for almost half a year, now, so I have no idea what the culture is like now. But I definitely know it has changed quite a bit since Ellen has taken the helm.

[–]ISpankEm 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Has the stress caused by your unexpected & seemingly unwarranted termination had any effect on your health and recovery?

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Yes, absolutely. It made me super depressed for a few months, which absolutely prolonged my recovery. The stress only affected me for a few weeks, but I ended up getting really sick during that time. Who knows if it was due to the stress or not - I'm certainly not blaming reddit for me getting sick. :P

[–]tigereyes69 9 points10 points  (1 child)

[Serious] Have you considered suing reddit for terminating you because you have/had cancer? I would recommend you consult a lawyer.

Lawyers in these cases often work (i) pro bono (for free) or (ii) for free at the beginning, with the hope that they can collect a % of your ultimate recovery against the employer. So it would be of no upfront cost to you. If you would like a recommendation for a lawyer who is familiar with discrimination law in California, I would recommend looking at the attorney Pao hired to sue her former employer (oh wait, she lost).

EDIT: I just want to add that this post is not legal advice. The law in this area is very complex and inherently fact specific (which is why talking to a lawyer is important).

Sources on Labor Law: ADA Website (search "Cancer") cancer.org

[–]joie01 47 points48 points  (1 child)

What is your opinion on "Blackout2015"?

[–]Mynameisnotdoug 30 points31 points  (0 children)

From another comment:

As far as the blackouts, I support them. I was even the person who took down /r/gaming. I hope they really bring change to reddit, though I'm honestly not holding my breath. I guess we'll see what happens, though.

[–]Drapetomania 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Did you ever have the displeasure of meeting /u/intortus? How bad did he smell?

[–]harperpitt 9 points10 points  (0 children)

How can we best make an impact on Reddit's senior leadership, board, and/or investors? Who do they listen to, and what would be enough to change their actions?

[–]ls48 7 points8 points  (6 children)

Do you like Minor Threat?

[–]FancyHearingCake 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You suddenly find yourself in the position of CEO. What do you do to change Reddit for the better?

[–]razerxs 6 points7 points  (1 child)

How do feel about the current mod tools and their inefficiencies?

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That's always been part of the conversation, since the day I started at reddit. The tools are sooooo much better now than when I started to work there, but there will always be improvements to be made. Maybe reddit should consider hiring more coders to specifically work on mod tools.

[–]kkiac1 63 points64 points  (10 children)

You are the top mod of /r/gaming. Why did you and/or your co-moderators decide to both ban and crack down on all content and discussion related to Gamer Gate? Why did you delete thousands of comments about Gamer Gate from this thread right here right when all of last Summer's Gamer Gate drama began?

[–]Dacvakreddit CM[S] 87 points88 points  (8 children)

I was sick at that point and wasn't moderating at all. I still, to this day, have no idea what all that was about.

[–]TheHobbyist94 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It's probably better that way.

[–]helloder2012 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Do you think that in light of recent events, people will jump ship and move to another site where they feel that their right to unbiased information is not tested?

Do you think that in 2 weeks (just picked a number) this will even be an issue? Or do you think this will blow over like FPH?

[–]gremy0 6 points7 points  (0 children)

In your understanding what are the reasons on mandating all staff to be located in SF? I mean there are plenty of technology firms that are distributed, is there anything in particular about the way the company is moving that require this?

[–]SRS_IS_GOD 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What is your favourite type of bread?