I agree with Victor. The results of my tests of terrible. 1 hour of running == 10s of recharge for my iPhone. I don't really want to call this project a scam... but almost.
@Tobias -- It's true, one hour of exercise can get you up to five hours standby and up to one hour of normal use. Of course people move different, their phones are of different makes and ages, but these numbers are informed estimations. The best way to see how much time you generate is with AMPY+ and the timer feature. That said, we don't recommend repeatedly discharging the battery close to empty. Hopefully this helps!
Also Tobias, as discussed off-chain we believe you have a faulty product and a new one is on the way.
I now tested the internal AMPY battery with a eletronic load and the real useable capacity I get out with a load of 1 A is 5,35 wh. So it will ne NOT possible to load a iPhone 6 full how it is promised. The iPhone 6 have a 6,91 wh battery and I think you will need arround 8 wh to charge it to full. You always need more power because there are step-down losses and also the loading of lithium batterys are not 100 % effective. I do not have a iPhone 6 but from the data I messured I guess it can be charged 2/3 in best case!
The AMPY weights more than 200 g for this weight you get powerbanks with arround 25 wh. Summary: the kinetic loader should realy work to make the AMPY a usefull devices! Thanks AMPY to picup my hopefully bust AMPY and send me a new one! There is a little hope left that your realy nice concept will realy work.
@Ampy, thank you for the same market spiel again. You missed the whole point of "motion powered battery" that caught my attention. I trust you will not do anything further to convince me and many others from believing that your product falls very short of expectations.
Even your Ampy+ app is useless and tells me from motion through my phone not even from Ampy should have charged the battery twice over. From what REAL performance measures that I seen; the amount of kinetic energy I put into this will BARELY give me enough power to charge a dumb phone let alone a smart phone. The only thing this thing manages to light up is the blue activity light which makes for a crappy noisy flashlight.
However I digress.... I appreciate you going through the efforts of putting this together and at least fulfilling deliveries even if this product won't go anywhere once people realize they have an overpriced electric outlet dependent backup battery that doubles as a fridge magnet.
Dear AMPY,
it would be a good idea to give us some more informations about the real performance. You promise 1 hours normal use from 1 hour of running (on kickstarter you promise much more!). So that would be for a iPhone 5 with a 5,45 wh battery and a normal usetime max. 15 h that the AMPY should produce 0,36 wh per hour! This would be a good output and this is why we are interested in our product. The AMPY battery has around 6,6 wh so every LED should stand for arround 1,65 wh and should be charged with 5 hours of running (or shaking).
Thanks for your Support,hope to get the story to a good end!
@Victor -- Thanks for reaching out. Sorry to hear your disappointment. AMPY MOVE was designed to take the power you generate through motion to get you to the end of your day. The best way to approach any usage, especially when going off the grid, is to start with a fully charged AMPY MOVE, generate power over time as you move, and manage the power in your device and smartphone with AMPY+. Whether an LED goes up or not, you are still generating power that can charge your devices. It's also important to remember that like all batteries, continually discharging at empty is bad for the device and will shorten the lifespan.
Probably going to hear more of this from everyone but this device is next to useless for going off the grid. If the only way to get any decent charge built up is to recharge it from the wall then what's the whole point of the motion aspect? This is pretty much a gimmick and no better then an overpriced run of the mill backup battery. I could've gotten a much larger capacity battery for half the price of one of these.
I drained the battery and kept Ampy on me for over a week now trying to see if I can even get ONE led to light up. Over 100,000 steps from walking (clipped to my belt), running (clipped to my belt), and my one hour cardio classes (clipped to my arm) and I also spent a few minutes just shaking the hell out of it.
Thanks for the replies. I have connected my LG G2 to Ampy, charging from 39% to 63% until Ampy battery went empty (Legion Meter showed 1750 mWh from Ampy to my smartphone). Ampy does not show any LED, tomorrow I will test the kinetic charging again.
@Joshue -- Glad to hear it arrived! Awesome that you've been wearing it, but it does take quite a bit of movement to go from 3 to 4 LED lights, and more emphasis on exercises like running. That said, just because it didn't go up one LED, doesn't mean you didn't add more charge. As long as AMPY MOVE is oriented correctly, your movement will continue to power the battery inside the device!
Another important Information when you what to test the output of the kinetic energie. You have to discharge the devices with a small devices that only pulls a few mAps for example a fitness tracker. If you have an electronic load (like I have) discharge for example only with 100 mA until the devices voltage drops to zero. Than wait one hour and discharge again. Do this 3-4 times to be sure the battery is realy empty. If you discharge with a lager devices, for example a smartphone, there battery will stop before it is totaly empty because a smartphones pulls 1000 mA and more and the voltage drops earlyer. So it you discharge with a smartphone and than shake the ampy a few moments and than try to dicharge again with a small devices like a fitnessband, you can continue discharge. But this energie will not come from the movements for sure, it is only because the battery still have so charge. I hope my english is good enought so that all of you understand what is important for a good testing?
@Joshue: this kind of testing will not work. To charge from 3 to 4 LEDs you will have to do much more movements. Also every battery have a self-discharge and you have to fill up this also. It would be better if you try testing with an empty battery.
I received Ampy 3 days ago with charge of 3 LEDs on. I have not discharged it.
I carried on 17 hour a day the last 2 days on the waist, and the charge level is yet at 3 LEDs. It is normal the charge continues at 3 LED level?
@Tobias good point about the battery recovery. This makes the device even less practical. I think it's now safe to conclude to all those waiting: there is no practical way you will be able to completely refill the ampy battery from zero charge to full from motion alone. We are actually being told to charge this thing from the wall for it to be practical. What's the point of that? This makes this device useless for regenerating enough power to recharge your devices over long backpacking trips. Just stick to lighter, cheaper, backup batteries if this is the case.
@Robert -- Glad your AMPY MOVE arrived. We're sorry for the extra fee and understand the frustration, but unfortunately we have to declare the cost of the unit for two reasons: 1) to insure the whole product if it is lost or damaged in transit and 2) we don't want to commit tax evasion. AMPY MOVE is more expensive than would be allowed for a "gift" which makes it duty exempt and all of our products are DAP meaning that we handle the shipper to the location but no extra charges past shipping.
@Tobias -- That is uncommonly low. We'd love to take a look at your particular device as it sounds like a defective product. We will follow up in a personal message.
I have done the first tests and the AMPY is realy bad or defect. Jogging 60 min with AMPY on my arm produces 7 mWh only. Shacking it 20 min also only produces 9 mWh. This is nothing. Even a small fitness tracker needs 300-500 mW to get charged full. For all tester: if you discharge the AMPY (or any other battery) you have to wait a few hours and than discharge it again before you can test. It is normal that a lithium battery will recover a bittle bit with the time. So if you discharge AMPY than walk a while and than try to charge your phone and it works for a few moments this is NOT the energy from the movement, it is from the recovery! After you realy discharge it you can start real tests. @AMPY is my devices defect or is this very very small output the normal one? If I shake it, the blue led is glowing when i push the button!
unfortunatly you missed clearing the custom Germany
I desperately need a bill about what I've got and what I've paid. would You plesae send me kind of that straight waway so I can go to the custom tomorrow to pay the fee and get my ampy.
c.k.dexter-haven@gmx.net thanks
After a year, finally received my APMY Move. Was hoping to receive it before my trip to Taiwan. Unfortunately, it arrived during my trip. Will come back with review later
Creator DAISUKE NAGO about 1 hour ago
When will it be delivered to Taiwan?
Creator Nova21 about 12 hours ago
Don't know about the rest of you, after using about a week, it's pretty much useless
Creator Kentaro Miyazaki about 15 hours ago
ummm. mine is almost same as Vinzius's one.
Creator Vinzius 1 day ago
I agree with Victor. The results of my tests of terrible. 1 hour of running == 10s of recharge for my iPhone. I don't really want to call this project a scam... but almost.
Creator AMPY 2 days ago
@Christian -- Will send today!
Creator Christian Viereck 2 days ago
my Ampy is arrived but I need an invoice to do the custom clearance. Can you send me one by email.
Creator AMPY 2 days ago
@Takayuki -- Fantastic news! We hope you enjoy it and get moving!
Creator AMPY 2 days ago
@Tobias -- It's true, one hour of exercise can get you up to five hours standby and up to one hour of normal use. Of course people move different, their phones are of different makes and ages, but these numbers are informed estimations. The best way to see how much time you generate is with AMPY+ and the timer feature. That said, we don't recommend repeatedly discharging the battery close to empty. Hopefully this helps!
Also Tobias, as discussed off-chain we believe you have a faulty product and a new one is on the way.
Creator Tobias Bischof 2 days ago
I now tested the internal AMPY battery with a eletronic load and the real useable capacity I get out with a load of 1 A is 5,35 wh. So it will ne NOT possible to load a iPhone 6 full how it is promised. The iPhone 6 have a 6,91 wh battery and I think you will need arround 8 wh to charge it to full. You always need more power because there are step-down losses and also the loading of lithium batterys are not 100 % effective. I do not have a iPhone 6 but from the data I messured I guess it can be charged 2/3 in best case!
The AMPY weights more than 200 g for this weight you get powerbanks with arround 25 wh. Summary: the kinetic loader should realy work to make the AMPY a usefull devices! Thanks AMPY to picup my hopefully bust AMPY and send me a new one! There is a little hope left that your realy nice concept will realy work.
Creator Victor Kong 3 days ago
@Ampy, thank you for the same market spiel again. You missed the whole point of "motion powered battery" that caught my attention. I trust you will not do anything further to convince me and many others from believing that your product falls very short of expectations.
Even your Ampy+ app is useless and tells me from motion through my phone not even from Ampy should have charged the battery twice over. From what REAL performance measures that I seen; the amount of kinetic energy I put into this will BARELY give me enough power to charge a dumb phone let alone a smart phone. The only thing this thing manages to light up is the blue activity light which makes for a crappy noisy flashlight.
However I digress.... I appreciate you going through the efforts of putting this together and at least fulfilling deliveries even if this product won't go anywhere once people realize they have an overpriced electric outlet dependent backup battery that doubles as a fridge magnet.
Creator Takayuki Ono 3 days ago
Last night, get my AMPY MOVE in Japan!!!
Creator Tobias Bischof 3 days ago
Dear AMPY,
it would be a good idea to give us some more informations about the real performance. You promise 1 hours normal use from 1 hour of running (on kickstarter you promise much more!). So that would be for a iPhone 5 with a 5,45 wh battery and a normal usetime max. 15 h that the AMPY should produce 0,36 wh per hour! This would be a good output and this is why we are interested in our product. The AMPY battery has around 6,6 wh so every LED should stand for arround 1,65 wh and should be charged with 5 hours of running (or shaking).
Thanks for your Support,hope to get the story to a good end!
Creator AMPY 3 days ago
@Victor -- Thanks for reaching out. Sorry to hear your disappointment. AMPY MOVE was designed to take the power you generate through motion to get you to the end of your day. The best way to approach any usage, especially when going off the grid, is to start with a fully charged AMPY MOVE, generate power over time as you move, and manage the power in your device and smartphone with AMPY+. Whether an LED goes up or not, you are still generating power that can charge your devices. It's also important to remember that like all batteries, continually discharging at empty is bad for the device and will shorten the lifespan.
Creator Joshue 3 days ago
After 14 hours, the output of Ampy was only of 28 mWh, this is unacceptable
Creator Victor Kong 3 days ago
Probably going to hear more of this from everyone but this device is next to useless for going off the grid. If the only way to get any decent charge built up is to recharge it from the wall then what's the whole point of the motion aspect? This is pretty much a gimmick and no better then an overpriced run of the mill backup battery. I could've gotten a much larger capacity battery for half the price of one of these.
I drained the battery and kept Ampy on me for over a week now trying to see if I can even get ONE led to light up. Over 100,000 steps from walking (clipped to my belt), running (clipped to my belt), and my one hour cardio classes (clipped to my arm) and I also spent a few minutes just shaking the hell out of it.
Creator Joshue 4 days ago
Thanks for the replies. I have connected my LG G2 to Ampy, charging from 39% to 63% until Ampy battery went empty (Legion Meter showed 1750 mWh from Ampy to my smartphone). Ampy does not show any LED, tomorrow I will test the kinetic charging again.
Creator AMPY 4 days ago
@Joshue -- Glad to hear it arrived! Awesome that you've been wearing it, but it does take quite a bit of movement to go from 3 to 4 LED lights, and more emphasis on exercises like running. That said, just because it didn't go up one LED, doesn't mean you didn't add more charge. As long as AMPY MOVE is oriented correctly, your movement will continue to power the battery inside the device!
Creator Tobias Bischof 4 days ago
Another important Information when you what to test the output of the kinetic energie. You have to discharge the devices with a small devices that only pulls a few mAps for example a fitness tracker. If you have an electronic load (like I have) discharge for example only with 100 mA until the devices voltage drops to zero. Than wait one hour and discharge again. Do this 3-4 times to be sure the battery is realy empty. If you discharge with a lager devices, for example a smartphone, there battery will stop before it is totaly empty because a smartphones pulls 1000 mA and more and the voltage drops earlyer. So it you discharge with a smartphone and than shake the ampy a few moments and than try to dicharge again with a small devices like a fitnessband, you can continue discharge. But this energie will not come from the movements for sure, it is only because the battery still have so charge. I hope my english is good enought so that all of you understand what is important for a good testing?
@Joshue: this kind of testing will not work. To charge from 3 to 4 LEDs you will have to do much more movements. Also every battery have a self-discharge and you have to fill up this also. It would be better if you try testing with an empty battery.
Creator Joshue 4 days ago
I received Ampy 3 days ago with charge of 3 LEDs on. I have not discharged it.
I carried on 17 hour a day the last 2 days on the waist, and the charge level is yet at 3 LEDs. It is normal the charge continues at 3 LED level?
Creator Hoby 4 days ago
@Tobias good point about the battery recovery. This makes the device even less practical. I think it's now safe to conclude to all those waiting: there is no practical way you will be able to completely refill the ampy battery from zero charge to full from motion alone. We are actually being told to charge this thing from the wall for it to be practical. What's the point of that? This makes this device useless for regenerating enough power to recharge your devices over long backpacking trips. Just stick to lighter, cheaper, backup batteries if this is the case.
Creator AMPY 4 days ago
@Gos -- Should arrive late this week or early next week!
Creator Gos 4 days ago
and shipment to the Netherlands ?
Creator AMPY 5 days ago
@Kentaro -- Should arrive next week!
Creator Kentaro Miyazaki 5 days ago
how about shippment to Japan?
Creator AMPY 5 days ago
@Robert -- Glad your AMPY MOVE arrived. We're sorry for the extra fee and understand the frustration, but unfortunately we have to declare the cost of the unit for two reasons: 1) to insure the whole product if it is lost or damaged in transit and 2) we don't want to commit tax evasion. AMPY MOVE is more expensive than would be allowed for a "gift" which makes it duty exempt and all of our products are DAP meaning that we handle the shipper to the location but no extra charges past shipping.
Creator AMPY 5 days ago
@Tobias -- That is uncommonly low. We'd love to take a look at your particular device as it sounds like a defective product. We will follow up in a personal message.
Creator Robert van der Hulst 5 days ago
Ampy arrived today with an Import tax of EUR 28 :-(
Could that not be avoided?
Robert
Creator Tobias Bischof 5 days ago
I have done the first tests and the AMPY is realy bad or defect. Jogging 60 min with AMPY on my arm produces 7 mWh only. Shacking it 20 min also only produces 9 mWh. This is nothing. Even a small fitness tracker needs 300-500 mW to get charged full. For all tester: if you discharge the AMPY (or any other battery) you have to wait a few hours and than discharge it again before you can test. It is normal that a lithium battery will recover a bittle bit with the time. So if you discharge AMPY than walk a while and than try to charge your phone and it works for a few moments this is NOT the energy from the movement, it is from the recovery! After you realy discharge it you can start real tests. @AMPY is my devices defect or is this very very small output the normal one? If I shake it, the blue led is glowing when i push the button!
Creator AMPY 5 days ago
@Marc -- Should be there this week or next!
Creator AMPY 5 days ago
@Margareta -- Should arrive late this week or next week!
Creator AMPY 5 days ago
@g. -- Will follow up with an email.
Creator AMPY 5 days ago
@Chin -- Glad to hear it arrived! Let us know if you have any questions while using it.
Creator AMPY 5 days ago
@Robert -- Following up on a personal message about your address.
Creator Marc Mangold 5 days ago
Hy still waiting ;-)
Creator Margareta 5 days ago
Hi. When do you expect shipping to Australia? (I would like it as soon as possible! :) )
Creator g. gnielka 5 days ago
unfortunatly you missed clearing the custom Germany
I desperately need a bill about what I've got and what I've paid. would You plesae send me kind of that straight waway so I can go to the custom tomorrow to pay the fee and get my ampy.
c.k.dexter-haven@gmx.net
thanks
Creator Chin Seng 6 days ago
After a year, finally received my APMY Move. Was hoping to receive it before my trip to Taiwan. Unfortunately, it arrived during my trip. Will come back with review later
Creator Robert Paramo 6 days ago
Any word on the eta to NZ? Cheers
Creator AMPY 6 days ago
@Michal -- Your AMPY MOVE should arrive this week!
Creator Michal Lotocki 6 days ago
Any chances to get information if my AMPy has been shipped? Just got paper work from customs and I was wondering if the package is from you guys.
Creator AMPY 6 days ago
@Ben -- Your AMPY MOVE will also arrive late this week or early next week!
Creator AMPY 6 days ago
@Christian -- Your AMPY MOVE will arrive late this week or early next week!
Creator AMPY 6 days ago
@Diana -- Looks like your AMPY MOVE should arrive this week!
Creator Ben 6 days ago
No postcard and no ampy here in Hamburg, Germany.
Creator Vinzius on November 14
My first tests with ampy are terrible. I'll report my conclusions here in a week or two.
Creator Christian Viereck on November 14
Did not receive any postcard ans still wating for my Ampy near Munich, Germany
Creator diana Jennifer Howard on November 13
Hello,
When I will recieve it in india, ITs been delaying only from your end, kindly update the status for shipping to india,i was a a backer..
Thanks,
Creator AMPY on November 12
@Gouhier -- Fantastic to hear! Now go get moving!
Creator Gouhier Didier on November 12
@Ampy -- I have received my Ampy, and it's Amazing !
Creator AMPY on November 12
@Joe -- Should be to you next week!