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The state of Gaming: Gamergate, piracy, other badness
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Samsally



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KillAllMen wrote:
Samsally wrote:
Sadly, no.

This is the most interesting thing I've read about gg in a while, though.

Two hours of non-stop tweeting in the early hours of the morning to explain that 4chan and the posters within are terrible people.



Confused

I dunno, I thought it came off as particularly kind towards them, compared to some of the articles I've read.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Game Reviewer Alanah Pearce Is Contacting The Mothers Of Boys Who Sent Her Rape Threats
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darqcyde wrote:
Game Reviewer Alanah Pearce Is Contacting The Mothers Of Boys Who Sent Her Rape Threats


bonus burn: now it's also all over the internet that your mom is calling you a little shit

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow. that's _brilliant_. and kudos to the mom for her response (not just the calling him a little shit, but the other stuff she did).

i had no idea so many of the rape threats were from boys that young, but it kinda makes sense - they are just starting to work out the whole sex thing. and clearly a lot of them have a lot to learn - and this is the prime time to teach them.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samsally wrote:
KillAllMen wrote:
Samsally wrote:
Sadly, no.

This is the most interesting thing I've read about gg in a while, though.

Two hours of non-stop tweeting in the early hours of the morning to explain that 4chan and the posters within are terrible people.



Confused

I dunno, I thought it came off as particularly kind towards them, compared to some of the articles I've read.


Nice of y'all to cheer on a censorship advocate.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dunno who the person is, and the two things I said were "this is interesting" and that it was kinder than some things I read.

What the actual fuck, Monkey. You've been making shitty jabs at me for a while now, what the hell are you actually pissed at me about?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkey Mcdermott wrote:
Nice of y'all to cheer on a censorship advocate.

Do you have something to offer by way of rebuttal?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I don't know who the writer is, so saying he's a censorship advocate doesn't really mean anything to me. Monkey does seem... a little different lately.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkey has realized exactly what level of hypocrite the people remaining on this forum are behaving like.

Monkey has spent years being a complete asshole to folks and getting cheered on and excused "because its funny or witty" but really its because he's being a complete asshole to people folks here don't like or disagree with.

Monkey is stunned that there was the kind of scolding and shaming about a dudes shirt here, while Gary referred to a lady as "Tits McGee" for months without comment. (I still love Gary)

Monkey is shocked at all the "I miss Agamemnon" commentary when while the poor schmo was here playing token conservative any time he espoused those views the entire forum came crashing down on him like a ton of bricks and dogpiled him into an exhausted "whatever fine" attitude about it.

Monkey is annoyed as fuck at the attitude of anything we disagree with requires documented and scientifically cited evidence while watching you all gobble down whatever trashy article supports your points of view without a shred of critical thought toward it.

So here we go. The person behind that storify has been lurking the twitter hashtag since the get-go, signal boosting the stupidest tweets, retweeting segments of conversation out of context to "win" the pr battle.

Vivian james shirt color as rape meme, 1 source for that, a tweet from Jonathan McIntosh, completely unsourced but hey, tons of articles, also using only his tweet and a convoluted chain of logic tying it to a meme from almost a decade ago. When mindslicer brings up theories with this kind of lack of sourcing and tortured logic he's laughed off the forum, but because you already want to believe the worst you're willing to swallow it whole no questions asked, because purple and green aren't totally part of mardi gras, dont have an urban dictionary entry from almost 2 years ago that supports the idea of men and women getting along and I totally didn't have a shirt that looked exactly like that as a teenager. Rape joke makes a way better story.

Yknow what? I'm not even saying you have to agree with them, fuck I roll my eyes anytime someone brings up the term culture war or SJW. I don't give a fuck what the avatar in a game I'm playing is shaped like or colored like.

Tarring an entire movement based on the behavior of a few bad actors cuts both ways though, and its not an intellectually honest thing to do. The attitudes and behaviors here in this thread are the reason i've watched people seriously discussing industry blacklists like it was the 50's, why i've seen a video of Adam Sessler and Jim Sterling talking about how it was ok to dox people, as long as they were being homophobic or sexist to thunderous applause from the audience. That's a thing i've not seen in months of lurking around the hashtag or any public area were this whole thing is discussed. I've seen it brought up and be thunderously shouted down and the person who did so be mass reported to moderation.

In short, monkey seems different because this particular forum seems more like a Tumblr mob lately than the sinfest forum. Some day y'all are going to look back and wonder why its only the same half dozen people posting in anything but the comic forum and wonder why.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkey Mcdermott wrote:
Monkey has realized exactly what level of hypocrite the people remaining on this forum are behaving like.


like you, you mean?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy shit, never did I imagine I would ever agree so hard with Mcdermott on literally anything, but here we are.

I'd like all of 'yall to take a look-see at Infinity-Chan, the *chan that was formed after a schism in 4chan caused mainly by Gamergate and m00t's attempt to suppress it. Did you know he fired over half the moderators, including some who had been there since the very beginning? Anyway, look at a list of 8chan's (the infinity is sideways) list of core boards:

/v/, where people talk (mostly complain) about videogames.
/gamergate/, where gamergate activities are coordinated, mostly letter-writing campaigns and data collection
/pol/, where right-wing whackjobs, and people who like to pretend to be right-wing whackjobs for lulz, hang out (mostly as a containment measure)
/tech/, science and technology
/a/, anime and manga
/furry/, furries, mostly pornographic
/leftypol/ Left-winged version of /pol/ which is more ideologically misguided than aggressively insane (also a containment measure)
/int/, poly-lingual international board
/tg/, traditional RPG and tabletop gaming
/k/, GUNS
/cuteboys/, delicious boypussy (effeminate, slender-bodied homosexual men, mostly porn/erotica)
/pone/, MLP-related discussion and porn
/co/, Comics and Cartoons (western)
/tv/, TV shows and movies
/fem/, a board by women, about women, for women

I'm sorry, but that corelist of boards doesn't really scream "testosterone overdose" or that the Gamergaters give a shit about perceived masculinity in regard to their interests, which goes against the Narrative that anti-GG is pushing. They actually seem more diverse and even feminist in their ideals than the core *chan group that they split away from.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

are we reading the same list of boards there or what
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been keeping my mostly shut on this thread because there are too many people here who genuinely believe gamergate was about harassing women...
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Jabberjay



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, with /pol/ it was either give them their own board or have neo-nazis skulking around the other boards pointing fingers at hallucinations of evil jews all the time. Pretty much every *chan needs a /pol/ these days just for the containment factor alone.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2014 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, that's pretty much how every community works.

Heck, that's pretty much how EVERYONE works.
And the more righteous they feel, the worse they are in that aspect.
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