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[–]alsorobots 83 points84 points  (27 children)

This sounds a lot like a plot summary I read about a year ago. After seeing the trailer, it does seem like this is pretty much going to be the movie. There are even bits in it that have been confirmed by video of the filming, like checking out the Firehouse (apparently that's the Ernie Hudson cameo moment). The dragon was in the plot summary I read too, along with the vomiting ghost at the beginning and the video being posted on youtube. I've even heard that there is going to be a male and female Slimer.

The cameos by the original cast line up exactly how the rumors of the reshoots were going, all the way down to Aykroyd's line.

Unless OP is a pretty big liar, this very well may end up being the movie.

[–]Iwantmorelife 26 points27 points  (2 children)

Here's the plot summary you probably read: http://indierevolver.com/2015/04/17/indie-revolver-exclusive-the-plot-and-problems-of-paul-feigs-ghostbusters/

There are some pretty big differences from what the OP here is claiming he saw, but then again, this was a plot outline from about a year ago. This was confirmed legit- at least in that it gave the names of all 4 characters quite awhile before they were officially announced.

[–]alsorobots 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I did read that one, but I can't remember if this is the one I'm referring to as that one seemed longer. I want to say I read an actual script treatment that was a few pages long. Perhaps part of the Sony leak.

The differences you refer to would be ironed out in rewrites and reshoots.

[–]goodbytes 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I've not read that before, thanks! It does pretty much fit with what OP described. I'd forgotten about Chris Pratt working on his own script too... Does anyone know if that's still a thing?

[–]Stantz1984[S] 16 points17 points  (13 children)

Ill check back on the Ernie Hudson cameo at work but I think its at the end with Jones, has to do with the cadillac I thought it was him but he looked so different and older

[–]alsorobots 6 points7 points  (12 children)

Well, I know the scene was shot in front of Hook and Ladder 8, so I assume it's when they move into the firehouse at the end? I assumed Ernie Hudson was a real estate agent showing them the firehouse from the photos of the shoot but I guess he's Leslie's character's uncle or something? If I remember correctly, he wore a nice suit and was talking to Leslie Jones with the girls standing nearby.

[–]Stantz1984[S] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

They are there around the beginning/middle of the movie when searching for an HQ but cant afford it. They start renting the old firehouse after they've saved the city. Thats gotta be Hudson with the cadillac at the end of the movie, I'm pretty sure they give it back to him but it doesnt make sense because the cadillac looks normal. I'll have to watch that part again. Thanks.

[–]alsorobots 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Don't forget that the cast cameos all had reshoots, so it's possible the scene I saw being filmed isn't used in the final film. It's possible they give him back the Caddy so that the next film can have a modern Ecto-1 with a car company tie-in.

[–]Stantz1984[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Haha yeah, probably going to cash in a prius or Tesla Ecto

[–]Stantz1984[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Alright saw the scene again and here's a few lines as well. Its at the end, Jone's uncle, (Ernie Hudson) owns a hearse company and he comes to their new HQ pulling up in another hearse. and asks, "Where's the car?" Slimer and female slimer stole the ghostbusters car and drove it into the portal during Rowan's final form fight. So Jone's wants another one. Hudson replies "I got four funerals this weekend. I can't do it with one hearse." Jones says, "cant you do two at a time?" Hudsons says "I'm not stacking em like flapjacks!"

[–]Matthias_Clan 3 points4 points  (1 child)

So basically McCarthy is just playing Tammy, pretending to be a scientist. That seems to be her only range.

[–]alsorobots 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well the original Ghostbusters were accused of pretending to be scientists by the dean.

[–]monkeyswithgunsmum 27 points28 points  (2 children)

Sigh. Chris Hemsworth, you disappoint your countrymen.

[–]Fluffenpuffen 11 points12 points  (1 child)

He does? From the sounds of it, he seems like one of few redeemable aspects about the movie. But being that it's being described as terrible across the board, it isn't enough to save it.

[–]monkeyswithgunsmum 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Huh. My husband said the same thing. Maybe he's the only thing worth seeing.

[–]ThrowawayGirlLaLaLa 23 points24 points  (27 children)

Was this accurate at all?

https://wikileaks.org/sony/emails/emailid/64921

Amy,

Here’s my take on it: It’s a reboot of the franchise in a world (our world) that has never actually had any legitimate contact with the ghost world. Our villain ghost is an executed murderer, a Ted Kazinski type (think Peter Dinklage) who has left behind a manifesto of how he wants to change and destroy the world. When his execution is hit by a supercharged electrical storm, he is turned into a powerful ghost able to rouse other villainous spirits from the ghost world to carry out the ever-expanding plans of his manifesto. Our four new female Ghostbusters come together in an origin story that sees them forming a team based on their diverse skills and plays with the invention and trial-and-error of their various Ghostbusting technology and techniques as they try to stop the villain and his ever growing force of evil ghosts, which is a boring way of saying that we’ll see four very different women come together and figure out in funny, scary and action-packed ways how to save New York City and the world.

This first film will deal with this one mission and the formation of our team and the evolution of their hardware and by the end result in them forming their actual Ghostbusters business, versus starting a business mid-film like the original movie. However, I would like to keep their business as a secret government agency in a world where the government has worked hard to cover up the events of this first reboot in order to keep the public from knowing that there is now a possible reoccurring ghost threat over our country. (I’m playing with the idea that, a la Close Encounters, the government stages an evacuation of mid-town Manhattan to keep the public from knowing about the ghost threat, so that even though most of mid-town Manhattan is a mess after the final battle, they are able to explain it away as a gas explosion or something to that effect. This will keep the franchise from having to denounce the Ghostbusters in a sequel or drop them back into a world in which the public is now fully aware of ghosts. This will give the franchise much more longevity. There’s a funny dynamic we want to play with where the government eventually starts working with the Ghostbusters but has to keep denouncing them publicly, having a Cecily Strong type character always saying terrible things about them in press conferences and then apologizing to them behind the scenes, even though her public attacks on them get more and more personal. “I’m sorry, I just have to make it sound convincing.”)

Tonally, the movie will be a bit scarier and more hi-tech than the original and the set pieces will be bigger, while still being very funny. For example, I want in the third act to have the entire police force and army accompany the Ghostbusters to the final battle but since our villain only wants to deal with the Ghostbusters and wants to make the government look ridiculous, he possesses the entire police and army forces and makes them do a big ridiculous dance number in the middle of Fifth Avenue, thus neutralizing them (and delighting himself). I think that having our main villain be both evil and funny in the ways screws with our world as he’s trying to carry out the points of his manifesto (get revenge on everyone who slighted him, humiliate and take down Wall Street, make the United States look ridiculous to the rest of the world and eventually destroy NYC, which to him is the brain of the US), as well as have fun with the ghosts he picks to carry out various tasks (could be all dead villains and famous criminals he recruits from the ghost world and - in what I think could be a billion dollar idea - recruits the ghosts of evil beings from other parts of the universe - yes, ghost aliens! “Our world isn’t the only place in the universe with bad and dangerous beings that have died, you know. There’s a lot of bored dead monsters out there who are just looking for something to do.”)

Anyway, these are all things we’re experimenting with and are looking forward to exploring as we write the first draft. I hope this helps in your lunch.

Break a leg! :0)

Paul

[–]MetalOrgy 39 points40 points  (5 children)

There's also stuff in there about trying to sue Bill Murray into doing a cameo

Sony has no shame

[–]CoSonfused 7 points8 points  (4 children)

Really?

[–]MetalOrgy 6 points7 points  (3 children)

[–]AsmundGudrod 27 points28 points  (2 children)

In order to more fully evaluate our position if Bill Murray again declines to engage on “Ghostbusters”, AG requested that we identify “aggressive” litigation counsel with whom we can consult to evaluate our alternatives and strategize.

wow....................

[–]puzzleddaily 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Holy fuck. That explains that!

[–]SchottGun 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I wonder if that is how they got the rest of them to come back. IIRC Earnie Hudson said he didn't think this movie would work, then all of a sudden he changed his tune and is in the movie.

[–]GuruMeditationError 24 points25 points  (5 children)

Wow. That is literally retarded.

[–]EdwinaBackinbowl 23 points24 points  (1 child)

in what I think could be a billion dollar idea

This was definitely written after a big hit of coke.

[–]Ivegottinderwarts 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Spared no expense.

[–]201603040002 18 points19 points  (2 children)

No man, Alien Ghosts! Is a BILLION dollar idea.

I can't believe this moron actually made Freaks and Geeks. It's so mind boggling.

[–]ijdfw8 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It makes perfect sense. Pour your heart and soul into a series with genuine moments and releatable characters and you get cancelled halfway to the season. Whore yourself to the lowest common denominator and you get mad recognition and cash.

[–]Hiccup 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Actually, giant mechanical spiders are a billion dollar idea

[–]Molecular_Blackout 18 points19 points  (0 children)

This first film

This first film!? For the love of all that is noodly.. please no!

[–]Haplo781 11 points12 points  (0 children)

What in the actual screaming blue fuck

[–]God_of_Gunpowder 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Tonally, the movie will be a bit scarier and more hi-tech than the original and the set pieces will be bigger, while still being very funny.

God, I hate how these people talk.

[–]RacistDonut 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It's like the whole "We work hard, and we play harder" routine shitty employers use to woo potential applicants.

[–]ThrowingChicken 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I like Feig and all, though I think his direction for Ghostbusters has been a misstep, but every time I read this and other Sony emails I can't help but to picture him as Tom Purdy from the Birthday Boys.

[–]ThrowawayGirlLaLaLa 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I can only picture him as Mr. Poole from Sabrina The Teenage Witch or the skinny counselor from Heavyweights.

[–]TheDangiestSlad 8 points9 points  (3 children)

The possession dancing is mentioned there.

[–]DetectiveAmes 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Oh shit I really hope that doesn't happen. It sounds so dumb. I want to see this cause it's ghostbusters and Kate McKinnon looks actually really good in it but fuck it sounds bad.

[–]TheDangiestSlad 8 points9 points  (1 child)

look at the 'time travel' pic someone posted here somewhere. there's a HUGE crowd of ghosts, at the exact positioning and spacing for a 'big dance number'. :(

[–]Stantz1984[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Its the army that dances, hemsworth controls them.

[–]CartoonRaspberry 7 points8 points  (0 children)

"Hi-tech" is not a tone.

[–]thatlordguy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"Tonally, the movie will be a bit scarier" lol not with all the terrible Scooby-Doo fluorescent cgi ghosts in the trailer.

[–]realuberpie 6 points7 points  (0 children)

God damn what is Feig smoking?

[–]puzzleddaily 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Wow. So this explains why his movies aren't funny. He has no sense of humor. Face. Palm.

(I hate when people cut up sentences for emphasis, but it was necessary here.)

[–]GoRedBad 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The first time I saw the technique was Grant Morrison writing Gorilla Grodd in an issue of JLAClassified: "This. Is. Just. The. Beginning. Of. My. Rape. Of. Nations." - I liked that one, but it has become overused.

[–]G8kpr 67 points68 points  (32 children)

I didn't realise until I read these comments that they want this to be a new franchise. Ugh.

Here is hoping this pulls a fantastic four, and bombs at the box office and they nix everything.

[–]madgeordierob 29 points30 points  (21 children)

Agreed. I was a GB fan since I was about 4, but I simply can't support this movie and don't want to see the franchise continue on from this reboot. I'd much rather the franchise was left to rest, with the exception of IDW continuing their excellent work. I was behind GB3 as long as it had Dan and Harold, to the extent that I would have accepted Bill Murray not taking part - Dan and Harold were the 'must-haves' as far as I'm concerned. Once Harold passed, that was it. I didn't want to see any new Ghostbusters movie.

[–]cartoonistaaron 24 points25 points  (10 children)

You might be the first person (besides me) to say no movie would be better than a bad movie. Just let Ghostbusters go and start some other movie franchise

Ghostbusters is the one thing I'm too close to for me to be able to stomach a remake. I mean, Egon is dead.... let it go.

[–]ChewyIsMyC0Pil0t 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Ghostbusters has become a ghost of its former self that needs to be stuffed in the trap and locked away.

[–]TitaniumDragon 9 points10 points  (8 children)

Well, the thing is, it is more of an opportunity cost thing in the end. They're making shitty sequels instead of new IP because audiences reward them for it.

If audiences start really punishing shitty sequels, they'll stop making them. Basic economics, really.

[–]Esemjayes 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I feel like statistically, it would be impossible to punish them. Too many people would just go see certain films even if they're horrible because they grew up with it or something.

[–]cartoonistaaron 8 points9 points  (6 children)

Yeah, I know.... the part of my brain that understands money knows that.... but the part of my brain that loves Ghostbusters (which is most of it, honestly) is just plain angry and sad that they're giving me a thing I've wanted for decades, but they're taking everything I loved out of it and replacing it with a bunch of shit I don't care about...

Ghostbusters is the one thing I'm 100% an unapologetic angry nerd about. Do what you will to my Ninja Turtles - take Superman or Batman and run them thru the wringer - Star Wars? Who cares! But Ghostbusters?! Have they no decency?!

[–]drummererb 17 points18 points  (6 children)

To be fair there IS a Ghostbusters 3. It's the Atari published video-game (it's on Steam still if you PC Game). It was written and voiced by the original crew. It continues the storyline after GB2. You play a voiceless new recruit and the whole game feels amazing. It has throwbacks to the first two movies and rolls with the comedy. It's very fun to play and the story is absolutely top notch.

[–]rufio_vega 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Rookie even appears in the IDW comic, which is set in the same continuity as the original movies and game.

[–]tiberseptim37 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It helps that Ramis and Aykroyd punched up the script, and all four original GBs reprised their roles, complete with in-game likenesses.

[–]btowntkd 2 points3 points  (3 children)

I've played and replayed this game every year since release; it's fucking phenomenal.

[–]G8kpr 8 points9 points  (2 children)

The worst part is, is that it could have easily worked, but they got the wrong actors, the wrong director, they just took one mis-step after another. Like you said, it's another fantastic four, another amazing spider-man, you have to start wondering what is going on at Sony, how can they bungle these slam dunks

[–]tiberseptim37 1 point2 points  (1 child)

you have to start wondering what is going on at Sony, how can they bungle these slam dunks

When you put it that way, it makes me really feel sorry for them...

[–]G8kpr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I guess when you hire a high profile director like Paul Feig to create a funny movie, and it's not.. then Sony says "what the fuck Feig? what happened?"

In my opinion, his movies aren't funny. I can't stand McCarthy at all, she's always the dumb fat girl that causes problems. It's the exact same character in every movie. I vaguely knew who Wiig was, but even she doesn't really come across as hilarious, not in the way that Tiny Fey, or Amy Poehler does. She's just kinda there.

I had no idea who Leslie Jones is, but having looked her up, it appears that Chris Rock forced Lorne Michaels to even let her on SNL as a writer. She's just the loud unfunny one. Then McKinnon... again, no idea who she is.

So as a "Typical" audience person, who doesn't watch SNL anymore... You have 2 out of your 4 stars unknowns, and 1, that I sorta know, but not really... the only one I recognize was McCarthy, and when I heard she was cast, I groaned "oh god, no!"

I know there are lots that say Bridesmaids was hilarious and funny, but my wife and I thought it was painfully bad, we just didn't laugh once. It was all stupid slapstick and potty humour and just meh... Then I spoke to a co-worker who said his wife hated it too.. SO maybe we weren't in the minority. I dunno.

But using that team, to reboot Ghostbusters? wow... I really can't fathom that.

This is really a "What the fuck were they thinking?"

[–]Throwawayfortheghost 20 points21 points  (8 children)

There's a good chance you'll get your wish. About three quarters of the votes on youtube for the trailer are downward. That's over 300,000 downvotes in a few days, which is also pretty telling. That's too many votes to be the sexist trolls the studio kept claiming were the heart of the pushback. Even some supporters have admitted that the trailer looks less than great (I would say terrible, at least insofar as comedy is concerned). This is a bigger fuckup than the Amazing Spider-Man movies, since Sony can't turn to Marvel to bail them out on this one. The studio is also desperately in need of another tentpole franchise, especially now that it has basically signed a profit and creative sharing agreement with Marvel on Spider-Man.

[–]G8kpr 19 points20 points  (7 children)

Exactly.. It's getting massive hate online, but it is only the first trailer. However this early report of the movie just shows how badly off the rails it's gone. If this is indeed true (which I think it is), I think that fans will hate it, casual fans will dislike it, someone looking for s good comedy will hate it, and idiots that will watch any movie where Melissa McCarthy falls down all over herself and acts the fool, will give it five stars and think it's hilarious.

Just a shame really, because it could have been something cool... But as usually, the people behind it don't give s fuck, and are clueless. They think they know the source material, but they're actually really out of touch.

[–]AsmundGudrod 5 points6 points  (6 children)

If this is indeed true (which I think it is), I think that fans will hate it, casual fans will dislike it, someone looking for s good comedy will hate it, and idiots that will watch any movie where Melissa McCarthy falls down all over herself and acts the fool, will give it five stars and think it's hilarious.

So another $400m+ blockbuster?

[–]Throwawayfortheghost 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fantastic Four is a very apt comparison, though it seems that Sony has decided to more or less stay the course instead of risking the possibility of greater losses through extensive reshoots. This may really piss of Fantastic Four fans, but I actually think Fox and Sony should have swapped strategies with their respective troubled projects. A Fantastic Four film in the vein of Cronenberg's The Fly sounds a lot more interesting to me than the total cluster fuck that movie turned out to be after reshoots. Meanwhile, Sony could have swallowed its pride and pushed back to a halloween opening to do modest reshoots that would tone down the comedy and bring in the established universe. Hudson doesn't command a massive salary and Aykroyd seems so eager that he'd have paid Sony to be in it (exaggerating, but barely).

[–]MetalOrgy 18 points19 points  (3 children)

Yeah I heard about Logo ghost being the final big bad but then who the hell is this?! http://i.imgur.com/Y7SiQ7p.jpg

[–]Kurai_46 5 points6 points  (0 children)

well, basing what OP said, its the ghost from the concert

[–]Esemjayes 12 points13 points  (7 children)

Am I the only one disappointed by these cameos? I thought the would be better than this...

[–]BrapadooMan 8 points9 points  (6 children)

Well, among other things. All this nostalgia they could have capitalized on and they fudged it.

[–]Esemjayes 5 points6 points  (5 children)

Right. Why didn't they have them follow in their footsteps or something. Like they are legends or something? I don't get that.

[–]Hiccup 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Be related, as in their kids or nieces and nephews (guess that might be Leslie Jones character but not known until the end). I could think of quite a few ways to being in new characters without making the originals seemingly imaginary

[–]Esemjayes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right exactly.

[–]Crowbar_Faith 12 points13 points  (4 children)

Looks like Ghostbusters II is about to get a whole new level of appreciation.

[–]D4RTHV3DA 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I have been looking at GB2 real fondly the last few days. It's not nearly as good as the first film, but it is leagues ahead of what we've seen so far for 2016.

[–]itrainmonkeys 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've always loved it. The Scoleri Brothers courtroom scene is one of my favorite Ghostbuster moments ever.

[–]owen_birch 45 points46 points  (2 children)

I'm Paul Feig and this whole post is absolutely true.

[–]Baz85 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Well I had my doubts, but now I'm ready to believe you.

[–]Clamper 22 points23 points  (4 children)

According to the rumor mill I've listened too. The Bill Murrey cameo was explained in the Sony email leaks. They had some leftover contract loophole forcing him too appear or they'd sue the shit out of him. I assume the same is true for every other cameo except maybe Dan.

[–]ScoochMagooch 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Yea Dan doesn't give a shit he'll do anything, he did a Ghostbuster cameo in Casper for God's sake.

[–]madgeordierob 13 points14 points  (2 children)

I honestly just think they threw enough money at Bill and co to make it worth turning up for a day - that's why I'm so certain this will flop, $150mil is the official budget but behind closed doors Sony execs will be adding to that the cost of the cameos and so the amount this movie has to make is probably more than anyone can accurately guess.

HOWEVER

What I really picked up on in the leaked emails was the urgency and determination to get Dan and Ivan on board or out of the picture, and the sudden urgency to get the film made (offhand I remember an email saying they HAD to have a script ready to go by January 2015 or something like that). If you want to talk about potential contract loopholes, then reading between the lines I think Sony only had a cettain amount of time remaining to 'shit or get off the pot', at which point the rights would totally revert to Dan and Ivan as franchise creators and they'd be free to take it to another studio. And if that's true, it makes Dan and Ivan's caving in even more disappointing.

[–]Fluffenpuffen 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I'm not so sure about the former. Bill Murray has always appeared to be a does-whatever-the-fuck-he-wants kinda guy. Being that he's probably in a fairly comfortable position money wise, I don't think he'd cave to Sony unless he'd want to appear in the movie, or, worst case, was being strong armed into it. I hope not. I'd like to think he just wanted to give the movie the benefit of the doubt, and lent his appearance for that reason, while still being reasonably skeptical.

As far as that release deadline goes. It doesn't surprise me one bit. Sony has been doing this for years. They completely screwed up Spider-Man 3 because they essentially gave Sam Raimi, who was directing it as well as involved in its writing, the ultimatum that he'd either finish the movie before an unreasonable deadline, or they'd start the series anew. Then unsurprisingly, the movie was completely rushed, and they started the franchise again anyway. Then it happened again with The Amazing Spider-Man series.

[–]ocassionallyaduck 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think Murray has always been fairly independent, but he didn't free himself of these kind of contract obligations until much later in his career after establishing himself as more than just a goofy funnyman, much of which happened around/after Ghostbusters. He has been known to occasionally sign onto things without reading into the details too, like assuming Garfield was the Cohen brothers, not a guy named Cohen.

He didn't want to reappear for the Ghostbusters video game, but was convinced after extensive pressure from Akroyd I believe because it wouldn't work if he bailed, and the rest of the cast and staff could really use the paycheck. But I doubt that angle would work here, unless they were gonna try and like, shame him for not supporting the new cast or something. I dunno, I don't see this angle being relevant.

Either way, he seems content to leave these properties behind. I imagine it was a bunch of money for barely any work, or they found some kind of amazing loophole in the contract compelling him to make an appearance.

[–]parkman47 19 points20 points  (3 children)

Ernie Hudson?? = Not sure if he was in this movie, haven't seen what he looks like now that he's older

Literally looks the same as 1980s Ernie...

Dude has the best genes in the industry

[–]bmichaels 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Chocolate don't chip.

[–]Stantz1984[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I'll check it out this week and get back to you with the exact scene, dont you worry chicken curry

[–]Stantz1984[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep definitely hudson at the end, He owns the hearse company and pulls up in another hearse and Jone's wants it because Slimer and female slimer drove the ghostbusters hearse into the portal.

[–]GGatwick 18 points19 points  (1 child)

They look at the youtube comments

What, Sony hasn't deleted them yet?

[–]Throwawayfortheghost 40 points41 points  (15 children)

I'm taking this with a grain of salt, but can you recall if there were any references to the Hemsworth character being sexy? Something I've suspected since the announcement of the casting is that this reboot will, in fact, be the most sexist entry in the franchise by objectifying the beefcake secretary.

[–]Stantz1984[S] 37 points38 points  (14 children)

Yes, at least Wiig is very obsessed with him and keeps trying to hold hands with him, McCarthy is not. Wiig says a lot, yes lets touch, hold my hand etc

[–]LegendaryCazaclaw 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Can't say I didn't see that coming a mile away.

[–]Stantz1984[S] 16 points17 points  (4 children)

Hemsworth also answers the phone with some stupid funny lines. The voice mail for the ghostbusters he says "ghostsbusters whattaya want" instead of saying please leave a message

[–]KingNewbie 13 points14 points  (3 children)

That's a call back to Annie Potts' reply when they got busy.

[–]cartoonistaaron 30 points31 points  (2 children)

But hers was character based. She was pissed off at Venkman telling her if she didn't like the gig, take a hike. It would make no sense to..... Ahhhh never mind.

[–]AetherMcLoud 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Hollywood nowadays thinks packing in one reference to some funny thing after the other makes funny movies. As opposed to actually writing funny stuff.

[–]KingNewbie 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm with you, my expectations for this are very low. It's a tough gig making a remake, and this one appears to miss rather badly.

[–]phycologist 17 points18 points  (7 children)

Wes Anderson should have been given that fucking movie.

[–]David_Jay 11 points12 points  (6 children)

I never realized how much I wanted a Wes Anderson ghost buster movie untill now.

[–]201603040002 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Wes Anderson's

"Ghost Hospice"

Starring Owen Wilson as "Bernard Venkman"

Jason Schwartzman as "Chas Spengler"

and

Gweneth Paltrow as "Anna-Maria-Cristina Barrett"

featuring

Tilda Swinton as "Slimer"

Soundtrack by Alexandre Desplat

[–]David_Jay 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Gweneth Paltrow: "Hello. I am a ghost. May I haunt you?"

Owen Wilson: "No!"

Jason Schwartzman: <stares longingly into the distance, not answering Gweneth Paltrow>

<Up-close top-down shot of Gweneth Paltrow's ghostly hand setting a phonograph needle>

This song plays

Jason Schwartzman extends a hand and Gweneth Paltrow takes it

<Long shot of Jason Schwartzman and Gweneth Paltrow dancing awkwardly in the abandoned ballroom of the Grand Romanian Hotel/Orient Express/Paltrow Manor>

Gweneth Paltrow: I killed myself, you know. Over a boy.

Jason Schwartzman: Leans in close, whispers in her ear, "That means you'l be alone... forever."

Owen Wilson: Standing on the edge of the ballroom, talking to himself, "Dammit, I wanted to foxtrot with the erotic ghost women. :("

Gweneth Paltrow: <cries a single, stoic tear as Jason Schwartzman walks away>

Edit: two hours later Jason Schwartzman dies in an off-screen car crash from trying to brew the perfect cup of earl-grey tea while driving, is reunited with Gweneth Paltrow in death, they walk off into the wall together. Owen Wilson is forever alone.

[–]201603040002 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Needs more "Oh Whaoowhh!" from my man OW, but I like it.

[–]Ohayo_Godzillamasu 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't even care if it was completely meta/cross-universe style stuff, like Bill Murray is both Peter Venkman and Bill Murray at once. He and Billy Murray would work it all out whilst sipping cocktails on a yacht somehwere off the coast of an obscure port town in Italy.

[–]Couch_Owner 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You had me at Wes Anderson.

[–]seenev 29 points30 points  (24 children)

If you're being honest, then I would assume you're risking a lot by violating the NDA they would undoubtedly have made you sign as part of your work agreement.

[–]Stantz1984[S] 88 points89 points  (18 children)

we're treated pretty poorly and the company doesnt give a crap about us, so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–]Molecular_Blackout 21 points22 points  (2 children)

\ you dropped this.

[–]Ivegottinderwarts 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Poor guy can't even get medical.

[–]Stantz1984[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

yep thanks!

[–]madgeordierob 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Implying Sony will be able to pin said person down from a single anonymous user account on reddit. Or for that matter that they don't have bigger problems than pursuing a single NDA violator for leaking plot details which at this stage of the game can't damage the movie any more than Sony have done themselves.

[–]owen_birch 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If you're being honest

...being the operative phrase.

[–]SeltersClassic 8 points9 points  (5 children)

Some scenes from the trailer (McKinnon building something) look like they're inside the firehouse. When/how does this happen?

[–]Stantz1984[S] 19 points20 points  (4 children)

Thats at the very end of the movie, after they've saved the city, McKinnon is talking about new traps and tech. You can see Sigourney Weaver barely behind a machine in that scene of the trailer. Sigourney comes out and McKinnon says shes her mentor. Sigourney is overlooking her new technology. They couldnt afford the old GB firehouse earlier in the movie cause its 21k/month for rent, thus they are above a chinese restaurant the whole movie.

[–]thomashush 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I just checked, and there is infact someone creeping around in the background during that scene, wearing yellow.

[–]thewanderingway 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Wow, so they just pulled a Amazing SpiderMan 2 Rhino on us again.

[–]AetherMcLoud 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Melissa McCarthy is writing a Ghosts of our Past book and keeps trying to ruin Wiig's chances at tenure by selling the book on Amazon with her as co-author and being a shitty friend in general.

Sounds like every (or rather, the only) role Melissa McCarthy ever played.

[–]jgarciaz86 7 points8 points  (4 children)

ok the international trailer confirms this is true

[–]Esemjayes 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Yup. The concert scene is true with the green dragon thing and crowd surfing. I knew this guy was legit, way too many details to piece together for it not to be otherwise. He'd have to be RainMan.

[–]Stantz1984[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Ten minutes to Wapner

[–]Esemjayes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol. I mean come one. My brain is telling me, this guy would have to be pretty smart to put all these things together. If you were just telling a story it would be one thing, but it made sense to me and fit within the context of the trailer. Also, everyone thinks the opening scene is a library but that's not what it looked like to me, it looked like roped off sections of a museum or old house like you said.

[–]amedeus 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Jones slaps the ghost out of McCarthy

I quit life.

[–]rockgnome 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Good grief... this is gonna be accurate too. Feigies will be lapping it up

[–]Y2DAZZ 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Is it too late to "shut this down, shut this all down" on this movie? My gozer. Sounds like a remake done very, very badly.

As far as I'm concerned the video game is GB3 and the IDW comics are GB4 with a great all female GB group in it.

[–]DuplexFields 9 points10 points  (0 children)

IDW is doing about 10x better with Gem, Star Trek, and Transformers than the recent movie, movies, and movies/Cartoon Network series, respectively. The only licensed property they're not as good on is My Little Pony, and that's because Sony has nothing to do with it.

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[–]bw1119 4 points5 points  (1 child)

What type of phones do they have? I want to know which phone company is sponsoring this movie.

[–]Throwawayfortheghost 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I expect that they'll be sporting Xperias. Columbia is a subsidiary of Sony.

[–]EpicLatios 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This has got to be true. You called the rock concert dragon and the crowd surfing before the international trailer showed it.

[–]rockgnome 7 points8 points  (10 children)

Is there any purile humour (in the sink shitting, cock waving vein)

[–]Stantz1984[S] 11 points12 points  (9 children)

Yeah mostly by McKinnon and Hemsworth. She plays back the ghost tape and theres a farting sound. "That came from the front"

[–]Esemjayes 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Another question I have is, as a comedy, is this just not funny? Or as a Ghostbuster film is this just not up to par?

[–]Stantz1984[S] 11 points12 points  (4 children)

The kind of humor in the movie is, "oh you wanna go first? or should i go first, oh you go first, no you" and it relies on a lot of pop culture. I mostly laughed at a few of hemsworth quips, Jones was the funniest girl out of the 4.

[–]Esemjayes 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Jones was the funniest? Oh man I hate her style on SNL but she could be different in this film. So the humor is what we get in the trailer pretty much? I liked Bridesmaids I laughed at that. BUT, I DO NOT find that exorcist joke funny or screaming, or gross-out jokes funny.

[–]Stantz1984[S] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Yep, its just a lot of that. I honestly have never seen Jones in anything.

[–]Esemjayes 5 points6 points  (1 child)

God, that's terrible. So overall it's just a bad film? Are you fan of Bridesmaids and his other work?

[–]Stantz1984[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Never seen anything of his. Yeah overall reeeally bad. my coworkers agree

[–]Throwawayfortheghost 5 points6 points  (20 children)

In your opinion, could this film have been saved in reshoots? Is there much in there that actually works, or do you think that issues like concert scene and the mass dancing crap are just too big to have been removed? I figure that you must have worked on other films have have had to go through that sort of retooling. Thanks for sharing, by the way. Obviously there's no way to verify the description until the film comes out, but it sounds pretty legit and in line with other details that have come out (particularly in the Sony hack).

[–]Stantz1984[S] 19 points20 points  (19 children)

I dont think it could have been saved in reshoots. I am not very experienced nor am I a film buff or thoughtful critic, just an old ghostbusters fan that was very disappointed. The jokes are sooo bad and the way the characters act is as if the audience is stupid. Its just flashy with bad jokes all over, theres no grime or grit to it

[–]Throwawayfortheghost 4 points5 points  (18 children)

Cheers. One other thing. Do you think this is a franchise killer? Is there any way to build on this with a seriously retooled sequel, or is the foundation so bad that the best that could be hoped for would be some loosely connected cartoon show (at most)?

[–]Stantz1984[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I hoping since this movie doesnt really go into anything from the old ones that maybe they can make something better in the future

[–]Esemjayes 0 points1 point  (16 children)

Good question. I wonder why this appears to be such a miss with Feig vs his other films.

[–]LawLayLewLayLow 12 points13 points  (6 children)

Feig isn't even that good, and he relies heavily on raunchy humor for laughs. It's the sign of whether or not someone is actually funny or not.

Take away the script, and his filmmaking technique is actually pretty poor. Terrible cinematography, bad blocking for scenes, just bland overall.

[–]g-g-g-ghosts 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Not to mention he has no idea when to end a scene or cut scenes that aren't particularly funny or necessary

[–]DetectiveAmes 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Just finished watching spy today and holy fuck that movie looked bad in terms of cinematography. Makes me bummed out they couldn't get someone more talented behind the camera.

[–]Esemjayes 1 point2 points  (2 children)

what did you think otherwise?

[–]DetectiveAmes 4 points5 points  (1 child)

It was pretty decent in terms of a comedy. Definitely laughed through it. For some reason though, maybe halfway or a little over half into it, melissa mcarthy just starts saying "fuck" every other word. It kinda got really annoying and the ending was a little meh. The first half is the strongest so the last half was kind of disappointing.

[–]Esemjayes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Right. It wasn't spectacular but wasn't terrible. So, that being said, I don't know what to think about this other than I have a bad feeling. I think the vibe is wrong.

[–]Throwawayfortheghost 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I don't see how people who bitch about Adam Sander can also love Bridesmaids. The shit/vomit scene was as puerile as anything I've seen in one of his films.

[–]dustingunn 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I've only seen Spy from him and it was poorly edited and filled with cringe-worthy jokes. I'm guessing Bridesmaids is why people like him?

[–]Esemjayes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Spy wasn't great but I did see it in the movies. Yeah Bridesmaids is good. It's a good film.

[–]Hiccup 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Feig isn't that funny and severely over rated.

[–]St_Bernardus 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Sony.

[–]Esemjayes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah but didn't Feig come up with this crap?

[–]ecto88mph 4 points5 points  (1 child)

AWWW HELLL NO

[–]RnRaintnoisepolution 2 points3 points  (2 children)

so what your saying is that my sister is gonna love it and I'm going to have to suffer through it when it comes out on DVD/Blu-Ray/whatever?

[–]realuberpie 11 points12 points  (1 child)

My sister called me sexist for saying it'd be bad then I called her sexist because she said Chris Hemsworth is hot and the main reason she'll see it.

[–]RnRaintnoisepolution 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh, I know my sister won't call me sexist for not liking it, the main reason she'll love it is because of Melissa McCarthy.

[–]Hiccup 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At this point I'm ready to believe this movie doesn't exist. It just looks and sounds that bad. I just don't see it making its money back, even with an all out media blitzkrieg which I think that are going to want to push this one under the bed /carpet and eat the losses. This further tarnishes their brand and everyone involved.

[–]daveman003 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"There are constant references to youtube, amazon, and one to reddit (Im sorry)"

I laughed harder at this than anything else listed, so thanks OP that was hilarious.

[–]SirPhobos1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Goddamnit, Stantz was right. I didn't need to remindme at all.

[–]Esemjayes 7 points8 points  (16 children)

Um I'm gonna go and say this is probably accurate. If he took the time to piece all the different info. I've read all over the internet into one story, then kudos to him.

My only question though is, what's the motivation for the bad guy? Are they not using the concept of the gangsters from throughout history or the bad guy who gets struck by lightning while in the electric chair?

[–]Wargen-Elite 4 points5 points  (6 children)

Didn't someone on reddit reveal the entire plot of The Force Awakens in/around September 2015 and no one believed him?

[–]Esemjayes 5 points6 points  (5 children)

I didn't see that but I bet they did. I'm kinda confused as to why people don't believe this dude...

[–]drummererb 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Like for real. If he's wrong then the movie isn't spoiled and you get a pleasant surprise. If he's right.. well.. it's a fucking awful movie.

[–]Esemjayes 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Haha exactly. Plus, my gut tells me this is legit. All the pieces fit if that makes sense.

[–]Wargen-Elite 1 point2 points  (2 children)

As many have said before me, forefathers and brother browsers who partake within this comment section, abd all comment sections: "Welcome to Reddit."

[–]Esemjayes 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Haha. Are you saying it's just par for the course.

[–]Wargen-Elite 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pretty much haha

[–]Stantz1984[S] 9 points10 points  (8 children)

Yes, the ghosts appear to be old timey gangsters that are unleashed on the city. It has to do with the Ghosts of our Past book McCarthy wrote, Wiig is reading it and sees a lot of writings and drawings scribbled in it that main bad guy wrote since he was in their HQ possessing McCarthy, then possesses Hemsworth.

His motivation is that he's been an outcast his whole life, hates people, and feels a new beginning or era starting. I don't remember exactly what he said, keep in mind I watched this at work intermittently, so I wasn't completely focused and every detail, I didn't decide I was going to reveal the plot until after I saw the movie since I was so dissapointed.

[–]Esemjayes 7 points8 points  (7 children)

Well thanks for the info. I'm pretty torn. I think my biggest issue is the film appears to be weak or not monumental if that makes sense. Like, Gozer was an ancient God. It seems this version is a joke or something.

[–]Stantz1984[S] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Watched the scene again, he wants to break the barrier between the living and tormented dead. He can see ghosts and he's been rejected and bullied his whole life. His machine channels them and breaks the barrier, doing the opposite of what the ghostbusters are trying to do. He wants to bring about the 4th cataclysm and he says this line 2 or 3 times through the movie "And the universe shall bend to your will". Later on he says "world instead of universe". I believe he was quoting a book.

[–]Esemjayes 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Interesting. How does he have the ability to build the machine to channel the ghosts? Is he a genius?

[–]Stantz1984[S] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

The machine is purple and coiled and looks old. He's just trying to do the reverse of the female ghostbusters. Genius? I dont think so he works in a hotel, but that is probably because of his poor social skills. They dont really go into it.

[–]Esemjayes 3 points4 points  (3 children)

So it sounds like he's poorly developed as a villian?

[–]Stantz1984[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I just wish he had better lines and yes was hoping they go more into his backstory, when he transforms into the giant logo ghost he's trying to kill the new ghostbusters and says "Dont you wanna join my army of the dead?"

[–]Esemjayes 1 point2 points  (1 child)

When does that happen again?

[–]Ursa_Doom 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Even if you're bullshitting, I don't expect anything good to come out of this movie after seeing the terrible trailer. I'm also cynical enough about modern Hollywood to believe evething you say in your post. I could totally see them deciding to put that old logo ghost as an antagonist in there.

They might as well have made this into another terrible Adam Sandler movie and gone all the way with the product placement if they were not gonna bother going for quality.

[–]R3miel7 2 points3 points  (0 children)

RemindMe! 2016-07-15 "let's see if this prediction held true"

[–]project5121 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Does Leslie Jones character show more depth than just being a sassy "funny" subway worker and stereotype? I mean, is she secretly a really smart scientist who just didn't go as far as she wanted? Is there a reason they chose her for "knowing the city"? Did the rest of the GGB not grow up there?

[–]posertrash 2 points3 points  (0 children)

NOT a sexist thing. The new cast is just subpar with the exception of Wiig. I would have rather seen a reboot with these guys. Imgur

[–]puckcowboy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Based on the toys, rumors, and all of the shooting locations etc, this sounds pretty spot on and pretty awful!

My only question is, at the end when Jones says "Oh I think that spray painted ghost from the subway was cute!", why would she say that when that spray painted ghost is already their logo by the end of the film? That part REALLY doesn't make sense.

Regardless, I've been against this film from day one (not because I'm sexist) but because this is a film that should have NEVER been remade/rebooted/reimagined PERIOD!

You can check out my full thoughts here: bit.ly/24Mencs

[–]batmans_roommate 5 points6 points  (12 children)

Actually Stay-Puft DOES have a cameo. He's with the stilt guy, they are a few of many parade floats that get possessed by ghosts. Stay-Puft almost squishes McCarthy until Wigg's character pops him.

[–]Dr_Killpatient 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I thought Melissa McCarthy was Stay Puft cameo...

[–]Esemjayes 4 points5 points  (10 children)

Haha did you make that up?

[–]mkarolian 4 points5 points  (9 children)

No, there was a toy showed that was stay-puft except was clearly a balloon (You could see the seems).

[–]Stantz1984[S] 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Yep saw the stay puff scene. he is a parade float balloon that the ghostbusters are shooting and he squishes 3 of the ghostbusters on the ground and their faces are smooshed a little. So shitty.

[–]Esemjayes 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Huh? Are you kidding? Their faces are smooshed? How does that work? (Haha as a side-note I like how I'm okay with ghosts but not with their faces being smooshed)

[–]Stantz1984[S] 3 points4 points  (5 children)

its like they are facing the audience and up against glass and their faces look weird smooshed up against it.

[–]Esemjayes 1 point2 points  (4 children)

haha oh man. Well that's just hilarious! I have another question, why are the cops congregating on Times Square in the first place?

[–]rod_kimble 5 points6 points  (1 child)

At least the villain part seems accurate: http://www.slashfilm.com/ghostbusters-villain/

[–]Esemjayes 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Right. Everything this guy is saying seems on point IMO. Everything connects together and there doesn't seem to be any red flags that went up when I was reading his story. That logo is obviously painted in the subway, and Jones works in the subway, and I could totally see them being like "oh I thought that no ghost logo thingy is cute" and that's how it becomes the final bad guy at the end of the film. Plus, I was wondering how they were going to have the logo ghost as an actual villain and this makes sense. Either this guy is a genius or he saw the film. It makes more logical sense that someone actually saw the film and came on here and made a post about it then made it all up in such a coherent way that fits so well together. The part that really sells me is that for him to come up with a way to explain how the ghost becomes the final villain would mean that he would have had to think backwards in order to explain it, but the writers were thinking forwards if that makes sense. While they arrived at that logo villain naturally.

[–]otakudbz 1 point2 points  (2 children)

In the leaked e-mails, it was said that Paul Feig include alien ghosts in the movie. Is that real?

[–]Stantz1984[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

They aren't alien. The ghosts are tortured souls that will torment and "pester" the living as Rowan describes it in the Channeling scene with the new ghostbusters. Rowan creates a device which breaks the barrier between them and the living world.

[–]gbwebseries 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Whether or not this post is true or not (they did a very good job of connecting everything from the trailer and all of the spoilers with the toys.) When we got word that this movie was happening, we decided to produce a web series that addresses all of the issues that fans said they had with a reboot. Check it out! http://www.gbwebseries.com

[–]Moobyghost 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Does the No-Ghost logo ghost that is now "stay puft" have the terrible bow-tie that was shown in production art? Please say no.

[–]Vaylon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People have written fanfiction that's better than this. What the hell was Sony thinking?

[–]OwenFinnn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds like the flop of the year (decade). It'll make millions.