Nippon Ichi Porting Phantom Brave To Wii, Adds Plenair?

This just seems like an odd choice, what with all the other games to choose from. Not a bad thing though. I heard that there is supposed to be a new scenario as well. Hopefully if they decide to add the obligatory waggle, there will be an option to revert to normal controls.

… I just read $78? ARE THEY FREAKING STUPID? or do they think we are stupid for that matter? LAME! (give me disgaea 3 instead, at least it isn’t a 2004-game-that-I-already-own-the-special-edition-and-only-costed-me-$20)

Mindblowingly stupid.

There was a new version of Phantom Brave released in Japan which added things like Newgame + and other features found in Disgaea and other games, so I’m glad that it seems likely this port will be coming out here since it will retain those features. Plus, new content!

I really, truly hope they never release Disgaea 1 ever again, at least not anytime soon. If you haven’t played it on PS2, PSP, or DS by now, I don’t know what to tell you. I’m absolutely sick of Laharl and Co. at this point.

Phantom Brave is my favorite of the NIS SRPGs so this is great news for me. Unexpected news, but great news.

^ the Wii hater of the day arrived I see.

Do you really want a PS2 port for the X360/PS3? it’s not even really aceptable on a more powerfull SD console like the wii when they aren’t even adding 16:9 and are selling it for the price they are you know? much easier to get it in SD for PS2 I say.

a SRPG from ground could use the Wiimote well, and even if it didn’t who cares? Or do you think disgaea 3 uses the HD graphics well? I thought so, and why should they spend more money when they’re a small company?

PS3/X360 have no market in japan, and outside Japan? lol, you have Dragon Quest spin-off’s on the Wii tieing Blue Dragon sales. (dragon quest sword tied with blue dragon, yes)

Be physically ill all you want, but mentalize youself that… that just doesn’t make sense, so it’s probably your logic that’s making you sick.

good riddance, and get well soon ;)

Seems like good fit imo, especially with likely cursor targeting. Hopefully they follow it up with PB2.

I want a Prinny port!

Phantom Brave 2 would make this bearable, but otherwise it’s just a bad choice, and the price point is hideous. Nippon Ichi should have started by releasing their most know properties, the ones with more following here, so that they could create a market for this, smaller, less known title; that or announce sequels/new games for the Wii and saying “meanwhile you’ll get THIS!” (like square did with Dragon Quest, “here’s Dragon Quest IX DS, but first… IV, V and VI!”)

As for Prinny… I wouldn’t object to that, but I think it’s fine where it is.

I don’t like rebuying games I already own, but if they put in enough extra content into Phantom Brave Wii I’ll definitely buy it. It’s my favorite Nippon Ichi game, actually, and I wish people who liked Disgaea would give it more of a fair shot.

I’d just like to note that Dark Marona might not be Dark Marona like everyone is saying, unless they have some information I don’t. I could imagine a scenario where Marona meets the Phantom of one of her relatives–maybe even a darker-looking version of her own mother?–in a side adventure. Marona is explicitly said to not have any family left alive to take care of her, so her getting a member of her family as a Phantom is a possibility!

Also, Soul Nomad & The World Eaters is a sidequel to Phantom Brave, in a really roundabout way, so there’s a minor chance Nippon Ichi is rereleasing this game to kind of start a separate, non-Disgaea timeline, or just let people who missed Phantom Brave know who the character in both Phantom Brave and Soul Nomad is.

I’m wondering when we’ll see a fully original title for the Wii from NIS (not sure what their WiiWare game is all about) or the DS. I know that A Witch’s Tale was announced a long time ago, but it was delayed and we don’t know anything about it.

If NISA charges more than 30 for this, I’m going to have to pass. I can find the game for 14.99 CAN used and play it on my PS2. I appreciate NIS/A’s recent ports (Rhapsody and Disgaea) because I only discovered NIS recently and those two games are hard to come by (and 30 isn’t as hard to swallow as 40ish), but Phantom Brave for 40-50*?! that is outrageous! Ports shouldn’t be priced around the same range as new and good games…

*note this is a rough estimate of the US price based upon the japanese price.

@ lostinblue: you don’t like Phantom Brave?

Well, I liked what I played from it (I have a huge pile of PS2 games to finish, so the tradition when I get them is put them into the console and play till the first save just to see what it is about and hopefully later on getting to beat them… that’s how much I played Phantom Brave so far but I enjoyed it).

I just think it’s a bad first step from Nippon Ichi if this is a “test” and is all we’re getting for the time being; it’s a unknown game by comparison with other games of theirs, and it’s also a old game of course. Like I said I don’t think they’d have the nerve to pull something like this (4 year old port, seemingly full price, no 16:9) on any other home console and I hate the idea as a Wii owner of essentially being used as a “greatest hit” console that only gets titles made within 2001-2006 to finance something else for a platform that makes no market logic whatsoever just because the said developer has some kind of fetish for being there, even if the costs are higher and they have to use us as a stepping stone (yet we get tests and they don’t, they get, erm… Disgaea 3); but, precisely because it happened before (not here, but in other cases) I’ve been burned and learned to suspect and expect it; this is the expectation third parties planted on me so far with their Wii support.

Might hopefully not be the case, but still, third party developers haven’t gave us Wii owners any warranties whatsoever, and getting this title surely warrants us nothing. And of course, not only that, but I also find it a somewhat of a shady decision to bring it instead of other, more valuable and profitable franchises.

Besides, no matter how much I liked Phantom Brave, it’s still a old game that I already own… in most cases I think a port is only justified if that warrants me a new game, for instance, back with Psone if Squaresoft ported FFI, II, IV, V and VI to the Psone as they did, and did FFVII/FFVIII/FFIX elsewhere I bet PSone owners would be ultraged; similarly, we, Wii owners are not their “greatest hits” console (2001-2006 RIP) neither their cash cow, and having no warranties and having been burned before… I’m being suspicious about this, while saying as a test the title itself was a bad choice.

Though I’d prefer to hear that they were developing something new, I’m glad that this rerelease is not Disgaea. At this point I think everyone is a little Disgaeaed out and La Pucelle, Phantom Brave and Makai Kingdom are just as good once you get into them.

@ Mattias – “I find it kind of strange that you’re shitting all over the idea of a decent SRPG for a HD console.”

A 5 year old PS2 port as a decent SRPG for a HD console? :X We’re discussing wether it is even a half decent effort for the Wii as a SD console.

@ Mattias – “by only releasing for an SD console like the wii the graphic artists won’t really learn how to handle HD graphics, right?”

Disgaea 3 didn’t use HD capabilities whatsoever, who, tbh in that case would be only higher definition texture and more polycounts. Besides Wii has cheaper devkits, bigger install base, it is market leader everywhere (it’s not just Japan), srpg’s are not that big of a genre, oh and cheaper media than Bluray and lower publishing fee’s per game than both Sony and Microsoft offer.

@ Mattias – “I think they should release more games for the PS2. I’m pretty sure it’s still the console owned by most people and then they’d have more money for marketing and overseas sales”

It’s selling less and less, it’s pretty much a zombie console with no hype that is selling on the momentum of cheaper games, reason why Atlus hasn’t released a game at full price for a long time now and will offer artbooks and OST’s in those $40 games. it’s far past it’s prime and while gamers like us can go back to it just fine… we’re a minority. If, as a developer, you want to reach the masses now, you have to focus on something else than PS2.

This said, PS2 sure made more sense for Disgaea 3 than PS3, IMO.

@ Mattias – “It would also reach a broader audience outside of Japan and the audience that bought their previous games and stuck with Sony.”

Wii is market leader outside Japan too, so it reaches a broader userbase on it too; if the PS2 public “stuck with Sony” they wouldn’t be third now; and if that public was stuck there and were to sell to them alone then it wouldn’t be a broader public, but the same public.

If anything the broader public is here, on the Wii, and that said, it’s not even that clear cut when as you see there’s quite a few Wii owners in this post that own/know Phantom Brave, we were Ps2 owners just he same.

@ Mattias – “Also, a port for X360/PS3 wouldn’t be awesome per say but I think a port to PS3/X360 would find another audience that might be more interested in titles like Phantom Brave or Disgaea.”

I won’t argue, we have totally opposite views of ports; I think I have the most realistic one though, as if anything reviewers and the public perception is very harsh on stuff like this, when made like this.

@ Mattias – “there is always THE REST OF THE WORLD? Just because Blue Dragon ties with DQ: Swords doesn’t mean that all games should be released for Wii? I think the PS3/360 audience really needs a good SRPG/RPG. I’m pretty sure they would buy it and love it just because all other RPGs lately hasn’t been that good. And well, I’m assuming the game developed would be good.”

But Wii is also market leader in the rest of the world :P I didn’t said that all games had to be for the Wii though, but the Wii makes more sense right now for the genre, in more ways than one.

I think there’s decent SRPG’s for the HD’s too, I mean Disgaea 3, Tears to Tiara, Valkyria Chronicles, those are all PS3 though; I’m not informed of the X360 line-up in that sense but I heard Atlus was bringing something over too from the genre. Besides early PS3’s have backwards compatibility and therefore can play Phantom Brave anyway.

Oh, and if people aren’t sure who I’m talking about, the very last image of the article shows a dark Marona right above Ash and Marona. Which will be the boxart for the Wii version.

wow i can’t w8 4 dis i hope the game sells fo at least $30 to $20 in the US

also i hope they bring back Makai Kingdom or even a sequal to either PB or MK it’l give me reason to play my wii again XP

Kurunoa: Actually, you may be on to something. They’d do this to get used to the Wii software, and what kind of sRPG they’d want to make on it gameplay wise, then build a new one from the ground up with the engine from Phantom Brave.

… or make another PS3 exclusive. Who knows what NIS is doing these days.

@Mattias

Disgaea 3 undersold even Nippon Ichi’s modest Japanese projects (they wanted 120k, got ~90k). Valkyria Chronicles underperformed too… actually, the only current generation console SRPG which seems to have at least met expectations is Fire Emblem Wii.

^ X360 is from the 3 consoles the one selling less in japan though.

Third party’s don’t have to “break in” on that when there’s no incentive to do that, be that incentive represented by a massive userbase, off the bat userbase for these specific games or cost effective development; which by comparison with others just isn’t the case now, in it.

Or should, for that matter try to break in, Xbox 1 didn’t sold in japan, so it’s only natural that it didn’t get RPG’s, because there was much more money to be done elsewhere, no such thing as beneficence in this industry; now don’t get me wrong, it’s fine if they get them, just like it’s fine that PS3 has gotten 3 srpg’s so far, but did it justify them up to this point? no, not really, and if anything X360 would justify them even less. (now, if I were to do a PS3 JRPG also putting it on x360, for how low the sales could be, could be a good move to at least sell a handful more units)

I also find it very weird the: ” (I think) there is potential there, just not a solid one at the moment” it’s one thing or the other, either there’s public… or not; it’s not like they’re saturated of the genre so the max sales would be hindered (like could happen with FPS’s).

On a side note, Plenair appears as a cameo in Monetopia, no idea how many people missed that..

as a huge fan of Phantom Brave I’m really excited for the release. finally, this game is getting the recognition it deserves! Although I do enjoy Disgaea, I think it’s unfair that it gets a lot more exposure than PB.
also, there’s a ‘trailer’ of it released, and i can safely say that Pleinair WON’T be in the game; the mysterious new character turns out to be someone who looks a lot like Marone, but older. I’m guessing that she’s Sprout’s granddaughter, since there’s a scene where we see him with that girl