Three Long Overdue Red Pill Reality Checks
Three Long Overdue Red Pill Reality Checks1) Getting laid isn't that hard.You guys, the rule is 80/20; it's not 99/1. Let's forget being "alpha" for one second (and only one second). Alpha is a life pursuit of excellence and not something that's absolutely required for you to have right now this second in order to be worth something. You know what'll work for right now? The much less prestigious "able to talk to girls." For fuck's sake, you guys know what a shit test is, how to beat it, and you've lifted at least enough to max out your beginner gains. That puts you ahead of a disturbing amount of men. Unplugging might be hard, some of you guys probably need to lose some weight or something, but this is really not that hard. Becoming a fully realized Red Pill Man might be hard as fuck but the getting laid part is not.
If you were to walk up to a chick right now who's just sipping coffee or something unimportant then you'd probably do just fine and could probably get a date out of it. Women are just child-like kittenish things with some psychopathy thrown in – kind of like a real kitten. Have you guys ever played with a kitten? I just roll em around on the floor by their belly and they love that stupid ass game for some reason. Real women are kind of like that. If you really get game, you'll see that it's basically just an analogue of doing that but with real chicks. It doesn't take a God or legendary man to do.
2) Chad Thundercock isn't supposed to be Red Pill's Jesus.This is one of the top 20 posts of all time so it should be considered pretty authoritative. Look at the way Chad's described. He's an idiotic meathead with stellar genetics that she probably met at the club. A year ago, Chad wasn't this stellar God of an alpha to emulate and look up to. He was an illustration of how fucking stupid women are in their choices, how fickle their love is, and how impulsive they are. Nowaday's every discussion of Chad is "Some guys just win! Not every Chad is a meathead. Stop Chad shaming!" Okay fine, there are some successful Chads but there's a damn good reason why the red pill doesn't tell you to be like the guy from that post. It's because that guy's a meathead.
Sometimes looking at reality for what it truly is, isn't being pessimistic. Sometimes the truth is really just that a lot of Chad's drop out. Sometimes the truth is that meatheads aren't these secret geniuses who graduate Yale and wreck shit for their whole lives long. Sometimes, that guy's just a meathead and women only like him because women suck. If you portray Chad with all the goods of being a meathead and all the goods of being a Harvard genius then it's just an impossible standard that's gonna make you think you've gotta be the 1% to get laid. You don't; you've just gotta be decent. Yeah, you'll get more laid for being a God but you can probably get a decent girlfriend right now if you really wanted. This Chad thing probably feeds a lot into my first point. It also artificially raises women's value to think of them as things only available to the 1%. You don't need to be a God; you just gotta be decent.
3) Women on Tinder really don't get all that laid.People on here project a few too many traits onto women. Fact is, women are irrational as fuck. What too many reds do is they think of how easy it'd be for themselves as a tinderella to get fucked and so they assume women can manage it. Well here's some food for thought: With today's privileges, it should be easy for women to get fantastic wall street careers but how many of them do it? Can you believe that there's a fucking wage gap? You can give women all the advantages in the world; they still don't make shit out of it. They're completely incompetent. Just like the professional world, the tinder world doesn't work out for women nearly as well as it should. "Empowered women" don't do shit in any area, no matter how many advantages you give them.
Men project onto women: "If I were in that position then I'd pick a good 85th percentile man to fuck my brains out, message ten, and then pick from the three who can do it. That'd get me a lay with twenty minutes of effort." Okay.... nice and logical but we're dealing with women here. For them it's like that episode of How I Met Your Mother where Barney gets a phone that always leads him to a hotter chick and then he doesn't get laid. Women go after the 1% guy and then he doesn't give a fuck, doesn't meet her, and she goes to her vibrator. Women are insane. Btw, the feminist women on the internet lie about their counts. They give any ridiculous three digit number (or even high two digit) just to look more sex positive. They're full of shit you guys.
also, while we're on the topic of mistakes noobs are making, AWALT does not mean all women act exactly the same - this isn't the Clone Wars. AWALT refers to the fact that all women are biologically driven by the same impulses. Just like a normal healthy straight man sees an attractive woman on the street and would like to have sex with her, a normal healthy straight woman will be attracted to a man that she perceives as having strong alpha qualities and will want to tie him down (yes, in both ways). It doesn't mean that all women are guaranteed to cheat on you, but it does mean that if a guy who is more alpha than you shows interest in your girlfriend she will be attracted to him, and a percentage of girls who are put in this situation will indeed cheat. AWALT is about the evolutionarily-selected instincts and drivers, not about the entire scope of female behaviour.
Way to finally get AWALT right. My God, it's the one piece of theory that EVERYONE fucks up. It just means that women are womanly. It's not like: "All women are out to kill you, okay well not all because it's not literal, but still AWALT." AWALT means women have some feminine shit going on, are womanlike, and have their place in the game due to their role as reproductive scarcity. Here's something I wrote about it once. Here's a delta so that when you get AWALT right again in the future, people will treat you as an authority and get it right themselves.
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You nailed it bro. I really enjoy this sub and these people here, but you don't need to be a 1%er that travels the world and to get decent looking women.
Most men are a fucking mcdonald's hamburger. Look at that thing. Motherfuckers in this sub talk about how you need to train hard until it looks like your body is just one huge veiny dick - sfw before you even bother approaching.
To be a bit more serious and literal, let's talk about our 80/20.
The 80/20 rule applies to everything. The biggest one is that eighty percent of the results come from 20% of the effort, meaning that you get huge returns from just starting to improve on things.
We take things too far. I've really messed things up with plates trying to be too dominant or aloof to a girl who legitimately wanted to spend time with me. I've ruined great sex by dragging it out too long. Some things just happen. I had a girl giggle at me because the bed was too squeaky. All things considered, it was pretty hilarious.
The point about women being useless at dating is totally true too. Your average girl messages a dude with model looks and wonders why she's forever unloved.
YOU - our red pill alpha-in-training - are far tastier than a mcdonald's hamburger, and with God as my witness, these bitches are THIRSTING for the product that we produce.
Four years of Monk Mode? Talk about doing it wrong.
Monk Mode is best used as a psychological "cutting" period, similar to a bodybuilder's dieting down before a show or photo shoot. It's not a sustainable long-term state.
You lean your life out, refocus on priorities, then you get the fuck back out there and crush your enemies, drive them before you, and hear the lamentation of their women.
"Me horny! Me go fuck girls now,"
I think this probably also leads to a level of jealousy among the RP awakened. The ignorance truly was bliss... and what's better than knowing the truth of the SMP and getting laid?
Not knowing the truth of the SMP and getting laid.
In a way, Red Pill men have the An ability to rise above the white noise out there and analyse reality for what it is. Now we can see it... we don't particularly like it. Like when you can figure out how the magician performs his trick... there is no mystery or wonder anymore, and thus no joy.
While we've grown to a state to try and achieve more from our lives than meathead Chad... I wouldn't be remotely surprised by RP men admitting that every now and then, just occasionally... they wonder what it would be like to take away all the negative shit. Hell, I've questioned all my life whether I'd be happier if I was dumb. And to be honest I've concluded that it would probably be down to dumb luck.
The reality is that Chad is idealised in this way as the perfect natural alpha for sleeping with women... but never really for anything else. Would we all really find fulfilment in that? Or would we simply have a new set of woes like seeing men around us who were richer, smarter and contributing more to the world?
Ultimately, reality is always a compromise. As you get bigger, you tend to get less agile. As you get more intelligent, you tend to spot more negative things in the world that you're not in control of. As you become richer, you tend to appreciate the simple things in life less than someone worse off than you would. Chad has to live in reality too... he has compromises too... the real question you need to ask yourself is this:
Is sacrificing who you are and your personal potential worth all the sex with all the hot bitches out there?
So people can stop arguing that all women are cheating skank whores
Whoah whoah whoah, let's not get crazy here.
A while back some guy was advising a teenager on here to go into monk mode throughout all of college.....
I got downvoting for calling him out. People sometimes
I think the problem is that some of the guys who stumble upon The Red Pill get stuck in an infinite self-improvement loop.
Like OP said, they think the 80/20 rule is actually 99/1. They're trying to become perfect. They think, "I need six pack abs to approach women", "if I read these 10 books about game, I'll finally know what to do", "if I work really hard for the next year, I'll get that promotion, then I can get girls", "I need to wait a month to grow the perfect beard", et cetera.
Now, these are all admirable goals: get fit, read books, get a promotion, groom yourself to look your best. The reason it becomes a problem is because of how these goals are framed in your mind. They're framed such that, "if I do xyz, then getting women will be way easier, so until then I'm not going to try".
Guess what? With this mindset, you will never be satisfied. When you finally have your six pack abs, you'll want to work on your pecs. Once you've finished those 10 books, you'll come across another 25 you want to read. After finally getting that promotion, you'll want another one. After growing the perfect beard, you'll want to whiten your teeth.
You can't let self-improvement become something you hide behind. If you want women, you have to approach women. Yes, continue to improve yourself everyday, but also approach women. You don't have to be perfect; perfect is boring.
"You spend your whole life looking for answers, because you think the next answer will change something, maybe make you a little less miserable. And you know that when you run out of questions you don't just run out of answers, you run out of hope."
Basically, checking out of the need for external validation & happiness. That's TRP. If all you need to be happy is to dress up in a pink dress & do pirouettes, then we can go fuck ourselves for saying otherwise.
Much love, gents.
"The day you started lifting is the day you forever became too small."
People just obsess. They miss the forest for the trees. I stopped posting in the LeanGains sub-reddit because I got sick of the idiotic, hold-my-hand questions that come with exposure.
"Can I do 4pm-10pm instead of 12pm-8pm for my feeding window?"
"Is it still alpha if I like it when she gets on top?"
Some people truly are sheep and can't fucking think for themselves.
Can we please get this shit added in the list of objective RP truths?
So people can stop arguing that all women are cheating skank whores that will fuck your best friend because his car is a year younger than yours.
Another use of AWALT is that when you first meet a new woman, the only thing you can assume about her is that she will behave like a statistically average woman - following all of the standard behaviors that we outline in TRP.
In other words, AWALT is just a good assumption to make until you know a woman more personally.
It always seems like its a rallying cry for new guys or perpetual monk mode dudes.
The great revelation of the Chad metaphor is how high a priority for sex a physically attractive man is, and how a woman will use a less physically attractive (but financially successful) man for his money.
This dispels the Disney fantasy that being a good provider is attractive. It isn't, it's useful. And there is a massive difference in the woman's brain. (Women have pretended that they are the same thing for generations, because betas paying and pretending they are somehow alpha is useful)
Chad = desirable. Billy Beta = useful. Chad gets love, devotion, sex, adoration for no more than the cost of a bag of skittles. Billy Beta gets looked down upon, disrespected and divorce-raped for his lifetime of servitude.
The truth is: women worship Chad and then use Billy Beta. Chad gives nothing and gets everything. Billy gets the reverse.
That's dumb, college is the best time to practice approaching and game strategies. Its filled with tons of opportunities, especially at a big school.
Or the part where the woman is a rich, young, beautiful, 10/10, virgin, (actual) princess with out of this world sexual and financial market value. Sorry tumblrina, you're fat, watch Netflix all day, work as a grocery bagger, and have fucked 30 guys. You're not a Disney princess.
If you only want to say "I agree" then use the upvote button.
You know, when you read people's posts on here, it's easy to see how religions get totally out of control. People abandon the actual, rock solid source materials and teachings of the founder(s) and project their own meaning onto things. Unfortunately, they are generally not in the same league as the founding fathers were, so you end up with gross misinterpretations and unintended consequences.
well everyone has it in them to do so. But some have higher costs than others.
I know very well that if 6'2 NFL Quarterback came at my girl, I might as well give him her phone number myself.
This guy knows what's best in life.
6'5 NFL Quarterback...
Fixed that for you, 6'2 is running back territory nowadays.
And NETWORKing to avoid ending up on /sub/lostgeneration
They go for the 1% on tinder but it doesn't really translate into real life. It's kind of like how you can learn more from a grad student in real life then you can from an online lecture given by MIT. IRL counts for a lot. Plus, I doubt that all that much sex comes out of tinder anyways. It's meant to get hopefuls signing up; it doesn't necessarily make more money if you actually have sex.
"Basically, checking out of the need for external validation & happiness. That's TRP. "
That is EXACTLY what it has been for me and what a difference it has made!
For me that is the very essence of TRP. If a man can cut his need to external validation he has made it. He is untouchable!
That is a man who can create his own happiness and anything that is happening outside himself is just gravy.
Sure, no man is an island but the man who can truly believe in himself RIGHT NOW, no matter where he may be in life, that is power right there!
The problem is that such a generalized definition of AWALT leads it to be basically meaningless.
No it doesn't because RP's got a TON of theory detailing what exactly what that guy says means. You could shorten it to: "AWALT means that TRP applies to all women." It means that you can apply what you learn on the red pill to ALL women and not just some subset of them.
Its not even about being a person in 1% or even 10%. Its about having the attitude that demonstrates that you couldn't care less what category someone places you. Instead, you're too busy being your awesome self to even contemplate caring about how someone might judge you. That's the essence of not giving a fuck.
Combine that with a positive outlook and that's the only frame you need.
this is true of all people - until you know a person, assume that they are like other people of their group and update your beliefs based around interactions with that individual. For example, I assume that male radfems are wimpy little beta men stricken with white guilt and until I meet a self-assured one I will continue to hold that belief.
Whats funny is if you look closely, the Disney Fantasy is true. It's just people choose to forget the "looking like a Greek God" and "being incredibly strong willed" parts.
The Chad thing comes from lacking understand about the nature of the term "Alpha". A lot of people mistakenly assume that being Alpha requires that you be cool, collected, and flawless. The suave James Bond type. In truth, it only means behaviours that are attractive to women.
Meathead Chad is as much an Alpha as is Mad Men Chad. The latter typically has ideals that most of us share. Most of us would rather not be the hardened pot-dealing street criminal, or the Jersey Shore audition prospect. These men are still attractive to women due to their Alpha characteristics.
An Alpha is a man with behaviours that are attractive to women. More than that is romanticizing the concept.
but I wouldn't sacrifice my marriage for an NFL cheerleader
You have nothing to gain by fucking a cheerleader. On the other hand, if your wife fucked the NFL player and succeeds in getting pregnant, she hit the DNA and monetary jackpot.
If you are with a girl who is actively sought by him, you gotta be worth something.
Worth something <<<< Worth millions
Because girls in LTR's don't feel sexual excitement?
Yeah. But knowing my girl is getting off on the thoughts of someone else while I'm fucking her kills my attraction to her. She can do what she wants. But that doesn't mean I have to like or tolerate it.
People focus too much on the "all" and not enough on the "like."
Not quite my point. Nor at any point did I suggest that understanding women and their nature is not beneficial.
The overarching point was that becoming the idealised natural chad of today literally rather than just being another form of chad... means you sacrifice the essence of who you are. No amount of HB9s and personal 10s is worth that trade. It's merely a hypothetical because the majority of us weren't born with perfect genes.
The value of chicks remains limited even when it's at their absolute height. That value can not exceed the essence of who you are. Therefore you are always more valuable than any woman.
Excellent post man, really hits home, especially the bit about just looking decent.
Since starting to lift heavy I've been hitting my goals but am constantly disappointed in the results. I know it takes time and that at this point I'm likely to be the biggest guy in most rooms I step in.
Coming here though, dudes give the impression that you have to be the Chadliest Chad 100% of the time to get shit done. This freezes me when I try to do anything and I anxiously hamster it into "oh I can do that once I hit that 4 plates DL" or "My shoulders are weak, I'll get her when I can OHP 135 no prob". Bullshit. Just looking decent sets you apart from the fat manginas.
It's good to always strive to better yourself, but constantly hamstering and telling yourself you aren't shit unless you're the Chadliest fucker around isn't helping.
thanks - a problem I always have correcting newbie mistakes is that a) sometimes the new guys try to be the "internet alpha" and get argumentative for no reason and b) when the majority of the sub are spouting incorrect usage, it feels like it can come close to concern trolling.
