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peddroelm

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DID NOT work for

Krogans, Batarians, Geth, Asari, Drells, Destroyer, Phoenix, Fury, Shadow, Slayer, Human Adept, Human Soldier


DID work for

Volus, Vorcha, Turians, Quarians, Salarians, Demolisher, Paladin, Human Engineer, Human Sentinel , Human Infiltrator , GETH JUGGERNAUT


The bonus  for heavy melee will NOT stack even from multiple players (tried double sabotage from FQI & Turian Saboeur) but only 50% damage bonus ...


Tech Vulnerability DID work with shadow strike (can probably reach ~20k (slight exaggeration calculated value is 18711) damage with one maxed shadow strike vs sabotaged armored target)

Tested with the help of Freekone , Marsman78 & Dunvi 

Edited by peddroelmz, 01 March 2013 - 11:42 AM.


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peddroelm

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test numbers



Human male soldier

+587928674 ms |damage 450.000000
+2861 ms |damage 487.500000
+765 ms |damage 450.000000

Krogan soldier

+100810 ms |damage 525.000000
+3099 ms |damage 487.500000
+500 ms |damage 525.000000

Turian soldier

+588260789 ms |damage 683.437500
+2482 ms |damage 487.500000
+566 ms |damage 1025.156250

Quarian Marksman

+20783 ms |damage 607.500000
+5648 ms |damage 487.500000
+982 ms |damage 911.250000

Demolisher Engineer

+126674 ms |damage 948.750000
+3691 ms |damage 487.500000
+625 ms |damage 1423.125000

Quarian Male infiltrator

+528160709 ms |damage 607.500000
+2900 ms |damage 487.500000
+747 ms |damage 911.250000

Krogan Vanguard

+24046 ms |damage 761.250000
+3370 ms |damage 487.500000
+580 ms |damage 761.250000

BF3 Soldier

+38519 ms |damage 450.000000
+2412 ms |damage 487.500000
+868 ms |damage 450.000000

Human Adept

+46761 ms |damage 1012.500000
+2584 ms |damage 487.500000
+950 ms |damage 1012.500000

Batarian soldier

+58897 ms |damage 862.500000
+3082 ms |damage 487.500000
+1233 ms |damage 862.500000

Asari Adept

+32281 ms |damage 750.000000
+3184 ms |damage 487.500000
+1818 ms |damage 750.000000


Vorcha Soldier

+46431 ms |damage 450.000000
+3086 ms |damage 487.500000
+646 ms |damage 675.000000

Drell Adept

+65528 ms |damage 607.500000
+3151 ms |damage 487.500000
+416 ms |damage 607.500000

Destroyer

+158206 ms |damage 1012.500000
+2686 ms |damage 487.500000
+797 ms |damage 1012.500000

Asari Justicar

+28516 ms |damage 1012.500000
+3005 ms |damage 487.500000
+960 ms |damage 1012.500000

Turian havoc

+59582 ms |damage 607.500000
+2482 ms |damage 487.500000
+3830 ms |damage 911.250000

Phoenix adept

+3948 ms |damage 708.750000
+4351 ms |damage 487.500000
+350 ms |damage 708.750000

Geth Trooper

+591561695 ms |damage 562.500000
+2967 ms |damage 487.500000
+266 ms |damage 562.500000

Human engineer

+53730 ms |damage 450.000000
+2669 ms |damage 487.500000
+864 ms |damage 675.000000

Quarian female engineer

+38314 ms |damage 607.500000
+2883 ms |damage 487.500000
+466 ms |damage 911.250000

Fury

+10199 ms |damage 472.500000
+2883 ms |damage 487.500000
+616 ms |damage 472.500000

Salarian Engineer

+3751 ms |damage 450.000000
+2850 ms |damage 487.500000
+781 ms |damage 675.000000

Volus adept

+11147 ms |damage 151.875000
+3404 ms |damage 487.500000
+33 ms |damage 227.812500

Geth engineer

+4932 ms |damage 759.375000
+3249 ms |damage 487.500000
+250 ms |damage 759.375000

Turian saboteur

+6247 ms |damage 877.500000
+3249 ms |damage 487.500000
+431 ms |damage 1316.250000

Krogan adept

+7307 ms |damage 761.250000
+2834 ms |damage 487.500000
+199 ms |damage 761.250000

Quarian male engineer

+30180 ms |damage 450.000000
+2836 ms |damage 487.500000
+844 ms |damage 675.000000


Batarian slasher

+4468 ms |damage 1012.500000
+2715 ms |damage 487.500000
+1400 ms |damage 1012.500000

Volus engineer

+1817 ms |damage 112.500000
+3135 ms |damage 487.500000
+1300 ms |damage 168.750000

Human sentinel

+15248 ms |damage 450.000000
+2483 ms |damage 487.500000
+333 ms |damage 675.000000

Vorcha Engineer

+6516 ms |damage 450.000000
+2367 ms |damage 487.500000
+915 ms |damage 675.000000

Turian Sentinel

+38948 ms |damage 885.937500
+2501 ms |damage 487.500000
+268 ms |damage 1328.906250

Male infiltrator

+3865 ms |damage 450.000000
+2618 ms |damage 487.500000
+816 ms |damage 675.000000

Krogan sentinel

+19133 ms |damage 1141.875000
+2832 ms |damage 487.500000
+201 ms |damage 1141.875000

Salarian infiltrator

+4600 ms |damage 607.500000
+2648 ms |damage 487.500000
+1052 ms |damage 911.250000

Batarian sentinel

+35381 ms |damage 750.000000
+2716 ms |damage 487.500000
+1067 ms |damage 750.000000

Geth infiltrator

+8616 ms |damage 759.375000
+2883 ms |damage 487.500000
+216 ms |damage 759.375000

TGI

+6748 ms |damage 607.500000
+2552 ms |damage 487.500000
+948 ms |damage 911.250000

Vorcha Sentinel

+21498 ms |damage 652.500000
+2919 ms |damage 487.500000
+319 ms |damage 978.750000

N7 Shadow

+4867 ms |damage 1181.250000
+2614 ms |damage 487.500000
+682 ms |damage 1181.250000

Shadow strike

+78713 ms |damage 2025.000000
+465 ms |damage 81.000000
+468 ms |damage 81.000000
+468 ms |damage 81.000000
+466 ms |damage 81.000000
+465 ms |damage 81.000000
+467 ms |damage 81.000000
+467 ms |damage 81.000000
+467 ms |damage 81.000000
+466 ms |damage 81.000000
+468 ms |damage 81.000000
+4568 ms |damage 487.500000
+333 ms |damage 3037.500000
+478 ms |damage 121.500000
+467 ms |damage 121.500000
+450 ms |damage 121.500000
+469 ms |damage 121.500000
+467 ms |damage 121.500000
+465 ms |damage 121.500000
+468 ms |damage 121.500000
+467 ms |damage 121.500000
+466 ms |damage 121.500000
+469 ms |damage 121.500000

Cloak


+90946 ms |damage 4050.000000
+466 ms |damage 162.000000
+467 ms |damage 162.000000
+468 ms |damage 162.000000
+467 ms |damage 162.000000
+465 ms |damage 162.000000
+466 ms |damage 162.000000
+472 ms |damage 162.000000
+463 ms |damage 162.000000
+466 ms |damage 162.000000
+466 ms |damage 162.000000
+3214 ms |damage 487.500000
+966 ms |damage 6075.000000
+467 ms |damage 243.000000
+468 ms |damage 243.000000
+467 ms |damage 243.000000
+465 ms |damage 243.000000
+468 ms |damage 243.000000
+466 ms |damage 243.000000
+469 ms |damage 243.000000
+466 ms |damage 243.000000
+463 ms |damage 243.000000
+467 ms |damage 243.000000


Paladin

+3181 ms |damage 400.000000
+2566 ms |damage 487.500000
+133 ms |damage 600.000000

Volus mercenary

+8533 ms |damage 151.875000
+9667 ms |damage 487.500000
+549 ms |damage 227.812500

Drell Infiltrator

+2681 ms |damage 607.500000
+2635 ms |damage 487.500000
+332 ms |damage 607.500000

Asari Valkyrie

+7382 ms |damage 750.000000
+2566 ms |damage 487.500000
+550 ms |damage 750.000000

Asari Huntress Infiltrator

+4847 ms |damage 1012.500000
+3583 ms |damage 487.500000
+517 ms |damage 1012.500000

Human male vanguard

+40779 ms |damage 506.250000
+2819 ms |damage 487.500000
+533 ms |damage 506.250000

Batarian brawler

+3732 ms |damage 1012.500000
+2982 ms |damage 487.500000
+901 ms |damage 1012.500000

Drell Vanguard

+5617 ms |damage 607.500000
+2320 ms |damage 487.500000
+798 ms |damage 607.500000

Volus vanguard

+1300 ms |damage 112.500000
+2518 ms |damage 487.500000
+1032 ms |damage 168.750000

Asari Vanguard

+15549 ms |damage 1012.500000
+3217 ms |damage 487.500000
+648 ms |damage 1012.500000

N7 Slayer

+32964 ms |damage 945.000000
+3533 ms |damage 487.500000
+583 ms |damage 945.000000

Phoenix Vanguard

+7348 ms |damage 1417.500000
+3284 ms |damage 487.500000
+300 ms |damage 1417.500000

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Fun facts - total test time: 6+ hours. Origin didn't help at all.

Edited by FreekOne, 20 February 2013 - 12:09 AM.


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Such a shame that Shadow Striking Atlases doesn't work to well.

You'd nearly be able to 1 shot its' armour bar with Sabotage.

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Cyonan wrote...

Such a shame that Shadow Striking Atlases doesn't work to well.

You'd nearly be able to 1 shot its' armour bar with Sabotage.


What about other bosses?

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Finally, heavy melee Volus is viable.

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TheKillerAngel wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

Such a shame that Shadow Striking Atlases doesn't work to well.

You'd nearly be able to 1 shot its' armour bar with Sabotage.


What about other bosses?


On gold, Banshees and Primes should go down in one hit. Pretorians, have slightly weaker armor than Atlases, so it's a possibility. Assuming they would be down to their armor, of course.

Edited by FreekOne, 20 February 2013 - 12:17 AM.


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Crimson Vanguard

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Wait wait. You mean Sabotage + Shadow Strike is as godly as Sabotage + Flamer?

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FreekOne wrote...

TheKillerAngel wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

Such a shame that Shadow Striking Atlases doesn't work to well.

You'd nearly be able to 1 shot its' armour bar with Sabotage.


What about other bosses?


On gold, Banshees and Primes should go down in one hit. Pretorians, have slightly weaker armor than Atlases, so it's a possibility. Assuming they would be down to their armor, of course.


This must be tested.

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peddroelmz wrote...

DID NOT work for

Batarians


NOOOOOOOOO!:crying:

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UnknownMercenary wrote...

[...]

This must be tested.


Of course. What I said was based on the assumption that peddro's estimate of ~20K damage is correct.

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Huh...makes me wonder if the melees that work have some sort of designation as 'tech' like tech powers would...which means the others would be 'combat' (or whatever things like Phase Disruptor count as) or 'biotic'. Shame there's nothing that makes a target more vulnerable to biotic powers to test the biotic melees with.

Edited by Scathen, 20 February 2013 - 12:51 AM.


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Wow this is incredible.

Thanks for the info, Pedro.

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merc, zjarcal and I just did some testing. A brute and banshee will die in 1 shadow strike but the DoT will be killing them rather than the immediate slash.

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So what you are saying is I should try a melee build with my turian engineer?
interesting

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Nice work.

I hope there was cake afterwards.

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TheKillerAngel wrote...

merc, zjarcal and I just did some testing. A brute and banshee will die in 1 shadow strike but the DoT will be killing them rather than the immediate slash.


Whatever applies to a Banshee, applies to Primes and normal Scions as they have exactly the same amount of armor.

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modok8 wrote...

So what you are saying is I should try a melee build with my turian engineer?
interesting


I've been saying that for a while.  See the turian link in my sig. :o)  Numbers need to be updated slightly.
...

Peddro: my oh my that's a lot of testing you three did.  Shadow strike suddenly got a lot more interesting.

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Shampoohorn wrote...

modok8 wrote...

So what you are saying is I should try a melee build with my turian engineer?
interesting


I've been saying that for a while.  See the turian link in my sig. :o)  Numbers need to be updated slightly.
...

Peddro: my oh my that's a lot of testing you three did.  Sabotage suddenly got a lot more interesting.


Fixed :P

I could see a QFI + Flamer + Shadow team working out very well...

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Flambrose wrote...

Shampoohorn wrote...

modok8 wrote...
So what you are saying is I should try a melee build with my turian engineer?
interesting


I've been saying that for a while.  See the turian link in my sig. :o)  Numbers need to be updated slightly.
...

Peddro: my oh my that's a lot of testing you three did.  Sabotage suddenly got a lot more interesting.

Fixed :P
I could see a QFI + Flamer + Shadow team working out very well...


Well, I've been engaging in that interest for a while with my QFI.  A sabotage happy player has always been a boon to a tech team.  She was the first selfless teammate long before volus (dis)graced us with their presence.

The fourth member of the team should have Recon mine for the permanent debuff field.  Oh my, the damage just keeps on climbing.

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Wow. Bioware plz replace electric slash with sabotage.

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Combine this thread info with this and discover why heavy melee Demolisher + Sabotage combo might make for a very interesting combo ..


550 * (1 + 0.95 + 0.75 + 0.3 + 0.2) * 1.5 * 1.5 * 1.5 = 5.940

Edited by peddroelmz, 20 February 2013 - 05:20 AM.


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Engi heavy melee counts as tech?

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Biotic_Warlock wrote...

Engi heavy melee counts as tech?


On some level ...  But equipping +tech damage gear will not boost heavy melee damage for any char ..

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TheKillerAngel wrote...

merc, zjarcal and I just did some testing. A brute and banshee will die in 1 shadow strike but the DoT will be killing them rather than the immediate slash.


It is to be expected ...

The DOT component makes up for about 28.5% of the total shadow strike damage .. 

100 +40 ....  100%
 40        ..... X %