The Freedom in Losing it All

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Hello. My name is Tullian Tchividjian. I used to be a pastor. Some would even say a successful pastor. I was leading a large church that had a school and a seminary, writing a book a year, traveling extensively all over the country speaking at conferences and churches and various events. However one wants to define “celebrity pastor”, I was one. And then it all came crashing down.

Two things I had come to believe were secure forever (apart from my relationship to God) were my 21-year marriage and my calling as the senior pastor of the historic Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. Both came crumbling down during the spring and early summer of 2015.

First my marriage. Then my position at the church. And with those two losses came a thousand other losses. The loss of close friendships, the loss of financial stability, the loss of purpose, the loss of confidence in God’s goodness, the loss of hope, the loss of joy, the loss of opportunity, the loss of life as I knew it. Life went from feeling like a fairy tale to feeling like a violent tragedy.

But as shocking and painful as all these losses were, my instinctive response shocked me even more: the rage, the blame-shifting, the thirst for revenge, the bitter arrogance, the self-justified resentment, the dark self-righteousness, the control-hungry manipulation, the deluded rationalization, the deep selfishness, the perverted sense of entitlement. Maybe these disgusting things which flowed from my depths with such natural ease shouldn’t have shocked me. After all, I was well known for talking about my own messed-upness, talking openly about my sin and selfishness, my faults and fears, my pride and pains.

I never pretended to have it all together. In fact, one of the reasons people listened to my sermons and read my books and came out to hear me speak when I was traveling is because I was honest about my brokenness and the amazing grace of God that covers us at our worst. I was known for saying that God loves bad people because bad people are all that there are. So I knew I was bad. I just didn’t know I was THAT bad.

The truth is, though, that we are very good lawyers when it comes to our own mistakes, but very good judges when it comes to the mistakes of others. As one of my counselors told me early on, circumstances don’t create the condition of the heart. Rather, circumstances reveal the condition of the heart. And what was revealed to me about my heart in the fiery hotness of dire circumstances was scary and destructive. This disgusting truth about myself (and the desperate aloneness that I felt because of it) made me want to commit suicide. In my darkest moment (after researching for two hours the best way to kill myself), I wrote this:

Words cannot express the pain I feel for the hurt I’ve caused. It has become too much to bear. Based on what I’ve done and the pain I’ve caused, I have concluded that it is safer for all those I love that I just disappear. 

Life without hope is death. 

At the end, I tried. I really, really tried. God knows that my apologies and my expressions of love were real. So real. But what does that matter when the people you want so bad to believe you, don’t? I understand why they didn’t. Given my recent track record, why would they? So when it became clear that those I love most wanted nothing to do with me, the choice I needed to make became clear. 

Initially, I got angry and defensive when I was told that I’m a monster, evil, disgustingly dangerous, etc. But it has sunk in and I finally believe it. I am all those things. Lord have mercy. 

One final word to the church: when people screw up bad, try to help them. Do your best to sacrifice anything and everything to help them. More than likely, they screwed up bad because they need help. Don’t turn your back on them. Pursue them. Something isn’t right with them and they need help. Even if they have hurt you bad, do everything you can to help them. 

“It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known.”

How did I get to this point of total desperation? How did I arrive at that dark place where I actually wanted to kill myself?

What I see now that I couldn’t see then is that this explosion had been building for a few years. The shift from locating my identity in the message of the Gospel to locating my identity in my success as a messenger of the Gospel was slow and subtle. It came on like the slow creep of the tide rather than a sudden tidal wave. I painfully learned that the more you anchor your identity and sense of worth in something or someone smaller than God, the more pain you will experience when you lose it all.

My confidence was severely misplaced: Confidence in status, reputation, power and position, the way I spoke, the praise I received, financial security and success. In other words, confidence in things that were smaller than God and his grace—confidence in things that were unstable and fleeting and easily taken away. Because I had existentially located my significance in things smaller than God, my loss did not simply usher in grief and pain and shame and regret. It ushered in a severe identity crisis. Without these things and people that I had come to depend on to make me feel like I mattered, I no longer knew who I was. I felt dead. Therefore, I might as well be dead.

The journey God has taken me on over the last two years has been one of complete deconstruction…not just externally but internally. The exploration of who I am, who God is, what is real, what matters, and so on, has been one of pure stripping. It has felt like my skin being painfully ripped from my bones. Just when I think I can’t take anymore, God seems to dig deeper. As painful as it has been, however, it has also been very liberating. As my counselor and mentor told me the other day, “The purpose behind the suffering you are going through is to kick you into a new freedom from false definitions of who you are.” So true. Death before resurrection has always been and will always be Gods mode of operation. Dark desperation always precedes deep deliverance. That is my hope. That is my only lifeline.

So, whether you’re a pastor or an ex-pastor or just a beat-up and burned out human, here’s the good news: Who you really are has nothing to do with you — how much you can accomplish, who you can become, what you’ve done or failed to do, the size of your church or the size of your sin, your behavior (good or bad), your strengths, your weaknesses, your family background, your education, your looks and so on. Your identity is firmly anchored in Christ’s accomplishment, not yours; his strength, not yours; his performance, not yours; his victory, not yours. The gospel doesn’t just free you from what other people think about you; it frees you from what you think about yourself.

This means that He is the light at the end of your dark tunnel. And He’s not going anywhere. Others may leave, but He will stay. As Winston Churchill famously said, “When you’re going through hell, keep walking.”

Your life is far from over. In fact, it may be just beginning.

POSTED ON September 27, 2016
  • Mike Wittig

    Tullian,

    You have been on my heart for the longest time. You don’t know me, but your ministry has helped me immensely. I was able to attend the last Liberate conference you oversaw. I love you man. I am so thankful that God brought your gospel teaching into my life in my times of desperation. You helped lay a foundation for me that I so appreciate.

    You are not alone. God bless you.

    Mike Wittig

    • Mike,

      Thanks for engaging. We will make sure Tullian sees this. I am sure he will be deeply encouraged by it.

    • GregAtkinson

      Thanks, Mike. God bless you. You are not alone either!

  • Stephen Gomez

    So thankful for this article and discussion. It brings up so many feelings and flashbacks of my burnout and fallout in 2009. And being back in ministry again today, it is refreshing to read these words of hope as a reminder to not fall back into those same false identities.

    • GregAtkinson

      Amen, brother. Amen. So glad to hear you’re back in ministry today. That’s awesome. I love “these word of hope,” too. Thanks for commenting.

    • Hey Stephen, that is def a encouraging thing to hear. Would you be open to writing your story and sharing it at ExPastors.com? I think it could be a great encouragement of hope for people. Thoughts?

  • will grif

    It’s really a shame that we as Christians are so good at shooting our wounded. I’m not a pastor but I am one of those ‘burned out humans’ that Tullian speaks of. I can’t say my circumstances were as Tullian’s were but I’ve been on the bottom and can identify with this quite a bit and I don’t think it’s really all that untypical to tell the truth. There are so many people that are broken like this and are good at hiding it. They are in our lives and in our churches and often have a hard time relating to pastors/ministers/priests who can only speak to things they’ve heard and have not experienced. Through the counseling of a few pastors those days are long behind me but are still ever with me and they will be with you. Tullian, I really hope you get back into ministry in the future. You are uniquely qualified to speak real experience and truth into some lives who may find it difficult to hear from someone who hasn’t shared a similar fall.

    • GregAtkinson

      I agree and I think so, too. Thanks for sharing. I pray God heals your wound and makes you whole.

    • Will, wow, thank you for sharing. Yeah, when the news hit the internet about Tullian stepping down and the reaction of hate that came, I wrote an article on Christian eating their own. In a time we should have been coming and supporting and praying for him, his church and his wife, we only made the situation worse. Thank you for the words of encouragement and I believe that there is a movement of people who do want to see a better way and you words and the words of others in the comment section is only confirming that. So, again, thank you.

      • will grif

        It really is too bad isn’t Drake? Instead of many supporting him it seems, that instead, many were/are weighing the professional implications of being associated with him. It’s something that’s grievous to watch. I get it from a purely secular viewpoint I really do but it seems as brothers and sisters in Christ we’re called to better. I really do hope Tullian finds his place in the body again. He needs to be cautious though to not be the hero of his own story or pride will find a place in him again. One thing for sure though: The gutter is not a lonely place; it’s just that shame keeps us from admitting that we’re living there too. This is good work you all are doing. I pray that it will continue to be blessed.

        • Well said Will. Part of our hope here at ExPastors.com (in general) is to help with a dialogue for a better way for everyone.

        • Paula Coyle

          “Instead of many supporting him it seems, that instead, many were/are weighing the professional implications of being associated with him”

          Because Scripture tells us to. The church is too quick to promote young hot headed preachers and reinstate people who have fallen. Sets everyone up for disaster.

      • T ate himself, don’t try to put this on anyone but him. We each work out r own salvation w fear & trembling; T lacked both of those.

    • Paula Coyle

      ” There are so many people that are broken like this and are good at hiding it.” When they have all these people telling them they HAVE to be a pastor and we can’t live without their preaching, what do you expect? They hide it because they’re convinced the Kingdom won’t go on without them being in the pulpit even if they’re neglecting their family/ marriage.

  • Rich Finaldi

    Talia my brother I can only say by reading this article that I can empathize maybe one sliver of a sliver not nearly going through anything that you’ve been through. Only the fear ,the very haunting fear of it actually happening . All I have to say is wow , and we love you there’s no other words that can really show how much I feel for you and this experience
    Rich -NJ

    • GregAtkinson

      Thanks for sharing. I think that’s why I resonate with this. At some level, we all can relate and that’s where the empathy comes from.

  • Pastor Z

    Thank you.

    • GregAtkinson

      Thank you for your encouragement.

  • Patricia Corrigan Duresky

    Psalm 51:17

    17 My sacrifice, O God, is a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart you, God, will not despise.
    He is also the God of new beginnings, rebirth is His work. I pray he blesses you in your brokenness and what the locusts have eaten will be restored. Praying for you and your family Tullian. <3

    • GregAtkinson

      Beautifully said. Thanks for sharing. He will restore what the locusts have eaten!

    • Thank you Patricia for sharing this word of encouragement. We have been overwhelmed by the response of people and I am sure Tullian will be as well. So, thank you. 🙂

  • Devin Hudson

    Thanks Tullian. What is ironic about your story is how much I absorbed your messages of grace and redemption when I myself went through a similar fate as you have now been through. Your messages reminded me of my absolute dependence on the gospel of grace and its redemptive purposes. Like you, I preached a message of grace (even started a church in Sin City with Grace in the name) and yet I did not fully understand the depth of my need for grace until everything was stripped away. My 6 year journey of healing, redemption, forgiveness, and the scandalous pursuit of God’s grace in my life has taken many turns but has taught me at a deep level what it means to be pursued by a God who never gives up.

    • GregAtkinson

      Wow. Thanks so much for sharing a little of your story. I know many others (including myself) can relate. Also, thanks for encouraging Tullian. He really put his heart and story out there for all to see. God is a God who pursues!

    • Devin, thank you for your words. Having grace at the focus of this is huge and one that I think many need to hear. Honestly, I think many could benefit from your story, especially in the dots tie back to this article. Would you be up for sharing that story more in-depth at ExPastors.com?

      • Devin Hudson

        Hey Drake. I am potentially open to it. We are expecting a child any day now (another part of the grace story) but definitely when I have some time. You can contact me off my blog (devinhudson.com).

        • Sweet! Congrats guys! Will connect with you on a later date. Or maybe send a email to get the ball rolling and connect later. 🙂

  • VisionaryJax

    Thanks for sharing from the heart. Although those whose love and approval you most craved and counted on may not have been able to give you needed, you were never abandoned by God and by those who knew your story through your books and teaching … Many, many believers were thinking of you and praying for you even when your public presence went dark. And our prayer was that you would find yourself, in the middle of your destruction, closer to Christ than ever before. I’ve walked through a similar valley and felt a similar death of hope … and have come out on the other side more securely convinced of the grip of God’s love that will never let me go than ever before. I see this is where you are heading and pray you will continue on this trajectory. CS Lewis talked about “you die, and die, and then you are beyond death.” The dying and dying is painful, but the coming out alive beyond death, on the other side, brings you to the sweetest place, the place where all you have, and all you need, is the love of Christ. Be blessed, brother Tullian.

    • Wow! Thank you for these words of encouragement and wisdom and sharing a bit of your own story as well. Deeply appreciated.

  • Dawn Scaroni

    As an unbeliever, I would judge ppl by circumstance – ppl like Jesus for instance. but as a believer, I don’t believe we can judge a man’s heart by circumstance but by God’s Spirit. Just like Jesus, you spoke/taught plainly/clearly almost every day… my heart is broken for you (while everyone else rejoices) and yet, I rejoice (while everyone else rants and weeps) to see you here – still broken and unashamed. I love you… with ALL the love of Yahweh… I love you from everlasting to everlasting and nothing and no one will ever change that! https://youtu.be/nvlTJrNJ5lA

    • Dawn, thank you for these words of encouragement. I am sure Tullian will deeply appreciate them. 🙂

      • Paula Coyle

        after he’s done with the Snoop Dogg concert, that is. Great Christian entertainment there!

      • Kandace

        I shouldn’t have read all these comments. I know enough of my own story to understand that people talk about things they have no clue about. I’m hoping and trusting Tullian is taking ownership of the pain he’s caused and as far as it has depended on him, he tried to make peace. I have to believe he’s done that to write the article he did. A fruit of true repentance is taking 100% ownership, not blaming others and seeking all the restoration God will allow. Tullian hurt my husband and I when he asked us to share our marriage restoration story and had his media team record it. The year he asked if they could play it at Liberate and we said yes, they decided at the last minute not to. We were left to believe (because he had nothing to do with us at the conference) he was already having his own struggles and didn’t want a marriage restoration video played. It did not take us long to forgive him and have even tried to reach out to him because we truly cared about his well-being. Deeply sad.

  • Hunter Sipe

    Tullian,
    I am a current pastor and a current online student at Knox. I stumbled upon your preaching in a random moment. That moment occurred during one the darkest times of my ministry. God’s grace became my functional lifeline for me. Though the years, my sin has appeared even darker. I am continually overwhelmed by the truth that though my grip is loose on Him, His grip is tight on me.
    Though I’ve never met you, I just wanted to say that I love you and am deeply grateful for your years of ministry. You are/have been in my prayers often. Thank you for everything and for this article. May God bless you.

    • Thank you Hunter for sharing those words of encouragement. We will make sure that Tullian’s gets them. 🙂

  • Leira

    Amen brother!!! praise God.

    • Thank you Leila for this encourage message. Can we ask what resonated most with you?

  • Andrew

    Where’s the article where you admit what you did? It seems missing here. I firmly believe that our identity is in Christ…but virtue and character matter too.

    • Hey Andrew. This story was focusing on life after it all. The details of his coming clean happened two years ago. Hope that helps.

      • Andrew

        Did it? Are the people that he wronged over it – or are they still feeling that pain? It doesn’t seem to me like it’s time for “focusing on life after it all”. It sounds here like he’s blaming others for “not believing him”. Maybe they showed good discernment and didn’t believe his manipulation? Actions have consequences.

        • Andrew, you obviously have grievances with this story and I am sorry for that. Though I am not sure this is the best platform for it.

          • Andrew

            So what is this a platform for then? Ex-pastors who screwed up, didn’t truly take responsibility for their actions, and now need a platform to get a neat little sermon story out to repair their brand – regardless of whether it has any grounding in reality? Because that’s kind of what it looks like.

          • I would encourage you to look further into our site before you lay complete utter judgement on what is happening here, our intent and maybe even read the rest of the comments coming from people, and you might just get a glimpse of why we do what we do (let alone all the private conversations we have in the thousands).

            I don’t wish to get into an argument about this as I doubt that would be beneficial for either of us.

          • Paula Coyle

            way to dodge, but that’s what antinomians do, after all, when it comes to Scriptural standards for Christian behavior.

          • Daniel Clingenpeel

            So he needs to specifically repent and confess to you? Seems like someone wants some juicy details.

          • Andrew

            What a weird thing to say, Daniel. I’m not interested in that in the slightest. What I am interested in: that victim’s voices are heard and “admissions” of guilt are analyzed with discernment.

          • Paula Coyle

            What Is the best platform? Maybe this is not the best platform for his restoration to the public eye. Maybe he should go back to a workaday job like everyone else and stop pretending to be a teacher in the church and stay OUT of the public eye, since he has repeatedly disqualified himself.

      • Take a closer look. In which of the occurrences from two years ago did he confess the blame-shifting and the like that he mentions here?

        Maybe he has somewhere, but his writing suggests that he ought to be publicly confessing a specific or two.

      • Paula Coyle

        lol “coming clean” you mean, where he admitted to one affair by throwing Kim under the bus, only to have it found out there was a FIRST affair before Kim ever had her ‘affair’ and a mere 8-9 weeks after the whole thing blew up he was filing for divorce because why? People didn’t trust him immediately? Then getting out there to talk about his newly discovered understanding of God’s grace right away, while so many were still clearly suffering from his rampaging selfish ways?

        How is this equal to “him coming clean”?

    • Daniel Martinez

      Do some searching on Google, you’ll find what you’re looking for in terms of his admission. It’s been pretty public for quite some time.

  • Phil Munsey

    Thank you. Though I never met you, I respect you – now more than ever. Please continue journaling this path you’re on. I sense it will become a map for others to avoid the subtle shift from our focus going from the “message to messenger,” or a way out. Today I commit to praying for you. Your best days are ahead.

    • Thank you Phil for engaging and sharing these words of encouragement and hope. Something we pray as well will help many others too.

  • I met you in Orlando years ago, you were then an arrogant, proud, superstar who didn’t have time for us lowly missionaries. Also we’ve attended Coral Ridge when Dr. Kennedy was there and we were Stateside but you went in there and tore down everything he stood for putting punk rockers on the worship team. This in a church of elders! You lacked respect for everyone which is probably why your marriage fell apart; you reaped what you sowed!

    I have no pity for a minister who has an affair to get back at his wife for having one. I’ve lived in a poor primitive culture for 40 yrs where this kind of behavior is cultural; there is no excuse for you who came from a Graham home. Not only did you know better, you should have loved better, if not your wife at least your God. Pride comes before a fall; you had LOTS of pride and now you’ve fallen; bow your head and shut your mouth; you have nothing to teach or sell to any of us.

    God has pinned you to the mat for it is against Him and His church you have sinned.

    • I am sorry that you feel this way Yvonne. I think you may have missed the point of the article. It is not to glorify the sin that was committed but a story on how we more forward in hope and healing for everyone.

      Airing your grievances on here may not be the most best use of your energy.

      • Andrew

        I think Yvonne is capable of deciding what is and what isn’t the best use of her energy.

      • Andrew

        Actually here’s a question Drake:

        Is this about Tullian “moving forward” with his life so he can start getting more public speaking engagements and book deals, or is this about “healing for everyone”? Because my guess is that there are still people that are hurt by what he did and don’t feel like he has taken responsibility for his actions. Or has he reconciled with everyone that he previously hurt?

        • I am sorry Andrew. But there are loads of assumption and speculation in your comment that are not helpful. I think you wish to paint Tullian’s as something he is not. Though he sinned, slander is not helpful either. If you believe he is posting this to get book sales, you miss the point. Though, I can’t expect you to know that as you did not have the dialogues we did. All I can. Do is assure you that this is not his heart. I do this to clarify and if you wish to go on a man hunt on this site, we won’t be able to tolerate it. I am sorry.

          • Andrew

            Hi Drake,

            I’ve raised my questions so I won’t go on, only to say that I’m not on a manhunt – but I do think that we need to hold leaders in the Church accountable.

            I have ask questions – which are not “slander” (I would have to know it to be untrue, which I do not – it’s actually a question that has been going around about his actions, and certainly hasn’t been refuted).

            Regarding painting Tullian as something he’s not: it seems like this would be a good time for him to clarify a lot of things, which is all I am asking. Taking responsibility for something in a private conversation is different than taking responsibility for something publicly when it comes to leaders. Do you think that is too much to ask?

            Again, if this about “healing for everyone” – where’s that side of the story? And if it’s missing like it is here, why is that?

          • Well, I thank you for you willingness not to drag this out and respect that your piece was said. As for the rest of your questions, I doubt they will be dealt with in this post. Hopefully we can all continue to move forward in healthy and helpful reconciliation for everyone. Would that be fair?

          • Well, I thank you for you willingness not to drag this out and respect that your piece was said. As for the rest of your questions, If I am hearing you right, I can respect the heart that is behind it and wanting to see healing for everyone. Hopefully we can all continue to move forward in healthy and helpful reconciliation for everyone. Would that be fair?

          • Andrew

            Yes, that is fair. I don’t personally have anything invested in this story, but I have in my own experience been on “wronged” side – of someone in my family living a lie and then not owning up to their actions. When I see the people that TT wronged not trust his admission of guilt or apologies, while other Christians so quickly come to his defense saying he’s changed – I am immediately reminded of my own experience witnessing Christians judging me as unforgiving or ungraceful for having proper discernment to see through fake lies. I am uninterested in cheap grace and half-apologies. Reconciliation can only begin to happen when there is a full admission of guilt by the offending party – and the lack of voice given to the people that TT has hurt makes me seriously wonder what is really going on. I am certainly happy to be proven wrong, however!

          • I will end with this. I can assure you that our intent in this is not to silence the voice of the victim. Hope that helps.

          • Paula Coyle

            “the freedom in losing it all” How insulting to his REAL wife and family. Isn’t that what a divorcee says “I’m free!” Should be more accurately “the freedom found in having deliberately burned all my bridges with people who loved me.”

          • Concerned

            You just deleted me

        • The only way you can reconcile w/ that many ppl at one time is to admit your guilt, and the hope for their forgiveness. Reconciliation takes more than just the offender to work.

          • Andrew

            Sure, it’s a two way street. My question is whether the people he wronged have seen the veracity of his admission of guilt.

          • I hope they have, and I hope he is sincere.

      • I didn’t miss anything; been in ministry 40 yrs; T needs an audience to buy his book; marketing a blog post is NOT godly sorrow! Don’t b a sucker.

        • Daniel Martinez

          He hasn’t released a book in three years and hasn’t posted on Facebook for 18+ months. Does that sound like a man who is looking for an audience right now?

        • Renee Lindsey

          Tullians message of hope for bad people saved my life! I had began to really see my heart, and sinful condition. I laid in the fetal position on the floor begging God to have mercy on me, and for two years I felt that God had left me. I was led to Tullians messages, and as I would listen to him talk about grace, over and over, I began to come out of my break down. I had never heard a Christian say they were wicked, and loved by God in spite of it. Over a two year period God in his great mercy, used Tullian to bring me out of spiritual darkness, so I disagree with you, he is a man of God, and his message and testimony are very much needed!

    • Philip S. Moses

      what a beautiful Christian response exemplary of Christ’s grace. you must be the most perfect and sinless person on the planet. it’s a good thing that Christ calls all pastors to never sin, so that the minute they do, we can crucify them.

    • Daniel Martinez

      Where exactly is your evidence that he had an affair to get back at the own being committed on him? He’s said it out many times that the grief of that time led him down a destructive path. We’re all broken and prone to sin at our weakest moment. Yes, that goes for you too.

      Also, what does putting up “punk rockers” on the stage for worship have to do anything? Some churches have their own versions of worship, there isn’t some single formula that is mandatory.

      We’re all sinners and some people fail, even the celebrity pastor if you want to call it that. That’s normal and a pastor who can confess is does a lot more good than a pastor who keeps it in the dark and tries to portray a false image. It’s the reason why I love my own church, I don’t have a perfect pastor.

      If you are the Christian you claim to be, then you go completely against the gospel of grace and healing. We’re called to forgive, not stay angry and bitter for things beyond your control.

    • tonycutty

      Unfortunately Yvonne, my first impression of your contribution above was this: Here’s a lady who has also learned arrogance. Your response comes across as harsh, unsympathetic and not all that Christlike. I’m sorry but you still seem to harbour bitterness against this man; however I’m sure you know deep inside that neither you nor I are any better than he is.

  • I’m currently reading this through tears. Though we’ve never met, your life and ministry has impacted my life and the life of my family greatly.

    Please know that there are many that have been praying for you and still have great respect for you – now more than ever. How sweet the gospel sounds to ears well acquainted with pain.

    In God’s hands wounds are a means of healing to others. Please continue on this journey and know you’re not alone as you travel down it.

    • Thank you Garrhet for your words of encouragement. I am sure Tullian’s will be deeply impacted. May I ask what resonated most with you about this article?

  • Murphy

    As a word of caution, please please keep it firmly in mind, the heart is still as wicked as ever. You are more being candid about the most public sins of your life. It is drawing respect from people. The very same conditions rich granted you respect in the eyes of many Christians are here again, and it can (with the help of Satan and your flesh working hand in hand) creep up on you just as easily as the first time.

    “Therefore let anyone who thinks that he stands take heed lest he fall.” 1 Corinthians 10:12

    • Dottie Ryan

      In the Old Testament times … prior to The Messiah … yes, God let us know through Jeremiah that “The Heart is Wicked Above All … ” Jesus, before He died and rose again even said the same thing when He spoke about our Hearts. BUT He promised in Ezekiel that He would give us a New Heart. I know my thoughts and emotions (my soul) don’t always come in line with what He has done in my heart to make it brand new (that’s why we renew our minds – the battlefield is in the mind). But I, because of Christ, no longer have a wicked heart nor does any other believer. Yes, we must be totally dependent on Christ as He works His will out in us … but I stayed sin focused most of my life (which comes right along with a wicked heart) and I almost missed Christ – His GRACE – His promises. Just sayin’ …

      • tonycutty

        That’s spot-on. What matters is the New Creation.

    • Paula Coyle

      If I preface everything with “I’m a great big sinner in ways I never thought I would be” then can we go ahead and criticize Tullian without ticking anyone off here? Just wondering what the rules are. Seems like if you make a big generalized statement that is obviously a truism about your being imperfect, it lets you get away with just about everything.

  • Donna

    Poor me, me, me. Could you ask Tullian how Genna, Gabe, Kim are doing? Does T care about them even a tenth as much as this article shows that he cares for himself?

    • Edward Chapman

      Check out Genna’s Twitter. She doesn’t seem as down and out as you seem to hope that she would be.

      • Ed, if you were 15 years old, do you think you would post your family’s heartache publicly? Give me a break.

        • I believe the point needing to make is let’s be careful to assume anything guys. Making judgements on what isn’t in this article is not helpful.

          • Paula Coyle

            what’s not in this article is how we should feel about his victims, whether he has bothered to PURSUE THEM for making restitution and repenting properly. Whether he feels any sympathy for them. It’s all about how he feels, felt, felt he was mistreated, etc. Good grief. what a narcissist still. I guess God can’t go on building his church without TT’s mug flapping its lips (figuratively speaking).

            Kim posted “tomorrow will be hard” the day before he married his THIRD fling who was one of the girls who was defending him on twitter last year. Really think she wasn’t interested in reconciliation? For all we know she didn’t even cheat. All we have is an accusation from TT. She’s the one who has behaved with the most class (publicly) through this whole ordeal. TT has constantly sought public attention and sympathy and acted like this was some kind of resume boost for the ‘radical grace’ (i.e. no third use of law) message he constantly preached.

    • Self centered is who he is

  • JoshC

    No matter what the circumstances or mistakes made, the courage it takes to lay your soul bare on a platform that allows others to judge from the privacy of a computer is enormous. As a former pastor’s kid and current youth leader, I take great joy in seeing a man of your stature be able to say “I’m still human”. Peace be with you, brother

    • Takes tons of courage to openly rebel against a church, your wife & God – a real fool.

    • Paula Coyle

      He hasn’t laid much bare here. Nothing we all didn’t already know. In his case it would take more courage to suffer and make restitution quietly. He should never have sought another relationship but well, he’s reportedly married to affair #3 now. Recipe for disaster. That she would subject her own two kids to more crazy chaos is beyond me.

  • Michael Page

    From a pastor who has fallen in much the same way as Mr. Tchividjian has, I really appreciate you guys sharing this article. I have struggled with calling, worth and tons of shame and have struggled with much of the same thoughts, feelings and emotions that I read here. While there is nothing but hurt on every side of these situations, I have found God to be just as gracious and compassionate and forgiving as I read in Scripture. My wife and I have been completely restored and the Lord has used our story to encourage others. To people on here who lack understanding or who truly understand grace, I pray you never have to learn the hard way. Thanks so much for sharing. This site is an excellent and encouraging resource for people who have fallen and feel isolated because of their own sin. So Thanks!

    • I understand u may b redeemed but ur not worthy to preach. Live w it, a small price to pay for crucifying the Son of God afresh.

    • Thanks Michael. Keep running the race, my friend. God is not finished with you yet, either! And thank you for the comments about our website. We hope to be a resource now and anytime you need us. Feel free to connect anytime.

  • Johnny

    It is indeed all about Christ’s finished work, from one beat-up and burned out human to another

  • Concerned

    Anyone reading this article with some semblance of reason or knowledge of the publicized time line should see that Tullian clearly suffers from NPD and has no business on a site set up to reach bruised reeds. Only 6 months has passed since he was caught in a web of lies and lost his position in Orlando. What’s this about 2 years???? Stop the spin!!!!!

    Tullian is married again less than a year after divorcing Kim. Now…is this evidence of repentance, true recognition and dealing with his failure… or AVOIDANCE? What kind of therapist is he listening to? There is ongoing HEARTACHE in his wake in Fort Lauderdale with 2 broken marriages as a result, both with children involved. The woman he had the affair with last summer is still in divorce process, and has been isolated and ostracized by a system that Tullian himself established and even dared to criticize in this post. He was the abuser, not the victim. He went to great lengths to make sure she was cut off and her voice would not be heard. The abuse continues. She received 16 crank calls and numerous texts from Tullian’s eldest son last week…he thought incorrectly that she was the Tullian parody on Twitter. Her husband has completely abandoned his faith. Tullian stole over $12000 from this couple and has NEVER publicly addressed his predatory behavior or dealt even close to appropriately with the people involved. Generic statements of apology sound more like Justin Bieber’s “Sorry” to those whose lives have been trashed by this man.

    Those applauding him for his “confessions” and granting him respect and sympathy, know nothing of the reality of the situation at all. It’s a lot darker than has so far been revealed and the pain that continues as a direct result of his lies and spin is evidence of zero repentance.

    There will come a day when all that is hidden will be revealed. Until then, pastors are called to a high calling. Fear God. He will deal with liars. And please stop feeling sorry for Tullian…your sympathy is his narcissistic supply and he will continue to seek it and use it to make a living peddling Jesus. He believes his own narrative. Phycologists say that NPD in adults takes years of therapy to even begin to address. Tullian should NOT be back in the public eye. Please consider if you are truly helping him by posting his writings on your site.

    • Edward Chapman

      I’m sorry but I just can’t buy into your stone throwing rant. Adult women slept with a pastor, and they are just as much guilty of adultery, just as much as the pastor committed adultery. But then again, if his wife already committed adultery, his marriage was already severed by her, and you throw your stones at him. And, it might surprise you, but social media indicates that his children are not suffering as much as you play it out to be. I’m just sick and tired of self righteous Christians such as yourself, knowing that every single Christian in the whole wide world has skeletons in their closets, while casting stones. He who is without sin, stone away!

      • Concerned

        Who is casting stones here? These are merely FACTS. The woman involved is repentant and was a victim of a crime for which she could sue, Ed. The details are horrific. Her children are young and they have suffered very greatly. Her husband has completely been defrauded. If you knew the details you would stop stone throwing yourself. Jesus cares about the victims and He will have the last word in this.

        • Kandace

          I would love to be able to contact this woman. I minister to women who have had affairs with Pastors. I almost didn’t come out alive. And I don’t share that because I need or want sympathy. I just understand the aftermath. My affair was also publicly exposed. The shame is overwhelming and I know the lies being whispered to her. I’m sure she has a strong support, as least I pray she does. The women do not get taken care of like the Pastors.

      • Ed, you have the wrong order because you are believing Tullian’s narrative as he first presented it to the public, read: sin of omission. He used his position as clergy to seek a sexual relationship with a woman before Kim had an affair. I use the word “affair” for Kim here because there was no power differential. You cannot do the same for Tullian as a pastor. It was not an affair. It is sexual abuse and spiritual abuse (along with emotional abuse).

        • Edward Chapman

          Julie Anne,

          For clarification I did say the word, “if”, so I was not affirming that allegation, nor was I believing his narrative. And, I don’t think it is proper to use the word “affair” except in soap opera’s on TV. This was blatant sin. Adultery is a sin, not a minimized “affair”.

        • Paula Coyle

          do we even know that Kim actually had an affair? All I ever heard was TT’s accusation by way of justifying his own 2nd affair.

          Believe me, if you are cheating on your spouse even through porn or online affairs, not even physical ones, it is affecting her no matter if she knows or suspects. You are defrauding your marriage and hurting her and she will suffer and react and pull away from you because your heart is no longer directed toward her. If TT wants to blame Kim for his affair even by implication, he should be blaming himself for hers.

      • Paula Coyle

        those women aren’t out seeking public attention.

      • Dean Williams

        You should know that it was also subsequently found out that he was involved in another affair which preceded his wife’s “alleged” (by him only no less) affair; a “fact” which caused him to lose his last job. So your “his wife did it first” comment is really “unfortunate” (using the softest, most respectful word I can here).

        • Edward Chapman

          Thank you, Dean, I accept that correction. However…Two wrongs do not make a right. Do not pay back evil with evil. Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery. Ya, everyone is right…my bad. I’m out.

      • James Abrahams

        Whilst I don’t think I can know what is going on in “Concerned”‘s heart. It is possible this isn’t a “stone throwing rant” but coming from a position of genuine concern.

        Narcissistic Personality Disorder is a thing and it hurts the person who suffers it alongside the victims of the sufferer.

        I had a close friend who did something similar (not quite as bad) and when he got convicted by the courts his very first thing was to ask “I wonder how God will be able to use me to speak to people now that I’ve hit rock bottom”?

        It might sound like a nice response but the reality is I watched for years since then as he still has not really healed and recovered and continues to do further things that cause both himself and those around him pain. He’s slowly coming to terms with it but its taken him a very very long time to look at what he’s done as just “bad”…

        A Narcisstist’s biggest thing is to turn every event into a huge story of significance. Before they can ever get to a place of healing they need to get to a placewhere they realise that ultimately they don’t really matter that much and the bad things they do to hurt people are “simply bad”. Not “evil villainous machiavellian but simultaneously dante inferno’s lucifer style fights for freedom” but just unpleasant alongside all the other boring unpleasant people.

        I have NO idea how to actually do this though. Does it mean expastors providing a platform for someone like this to post their suicide note is actually a bad thing? Could be, but I think its probably neither the business of us or expastors to decide, really he needs professional help and the professionals to help he himself to calm himself down I think. It’s hard to know what to do with a narcisstic because almost anything we can do to help could feed their ego.

        Anyways.. my main point in all those is not what to do about Tullian or expastors or you… but just to say to you, its possible that concerned may actually be concerned and writing that message out of love for Tullian rather then out of angry judgement… possible, not definitely, but possible. You don’t need to use “concerned” as an example of “Christians such as yourself”

    • Here here! T only wants to market his book a requirement of publishers.

    • Paula Coyle

      TT has bragged that his dad let him steal from him all the time (after he supposedly repented) and that basically that is his illustration of undeserved grace. So I guess a spouse should just sit back and take whatever the husband dishes out, and that’s how she’ll save a marriage. Or vice versa. His understanding of grace and God’s law in the life of a believer is disgusting and unChristian, and hasn’t changed at all. He’s joked about his grandson being nicknamed “Paybacks.” A crude joke about sexual sin between himself and Kim mirrored in Gabe and his wife. To which I ask what “paybacks” for the sexual sin of adultery/affairs is going to look like now and can we then make jokes about that?

      Seriously dude, you need to just stop excusing this guy when you haven’t followed him. I listened to EVERY sermon of his online for a while because it sounded almost right, until I realized what was missing. No instruction for the life of the believer, or very little. The only sin worth calling out was self righteousness. Very John Agricola.

  • Edwin Pastor FedEx Aldrich

    Tullian,

    I am glad to see you are still working your way through this incredibly difficult time. You have been a blessing to me in how you have dealt with this from the beginning. Your openness and willingness to bare your hurt as well as your darkest inner self has been an inspiration. Yeah, we could criticize you for all the things you pointed out in your article, but by being open through this process, you discovered all of those things and more for yourself. And yet, in spite of it all, you have continued to hold to your identity IN Christ and in the Gospel. I pray that you can come to rest in the Goodness of God and pray that this time will craft you into someone who can proclaim the much needed message of Grace without falling into the pitfalls of fame and popularity.

    Your Brother In Christ
    Pastor FedEx

    • Thanks for your words, Edwin. May they encourage all of those fighting so much hurt and pain and those desperately in need of restoration. Blessings.

  • Karen

    Thank you for sharing this, Tullian. I have expressed my concern for you to my church leadership and my heart’s fears… We have been within a few feet of each other on occasion but never met. I am so thankful and relieved that God did not let you go…..you are loved, don’t forget it.

    • Thanks for the comment, Karen. We are grateful for a God who doesn’t let go, regardless of what we’ve done or where we’ve been. He isn’t done with Tullian, and He isn’t done with countless others who have been hurt and broken along the way. We appreciate your words. Blessings.

  • To be clear, we created ExPastors.com to be a place for healing and hope for those who are currently in or who have stepped away from ministry (for a variety of reasons). Though we understood that posting this article would create heated conversations, we are also convinced that God will use these words to help a lot of hurting people, many of whom we have met and talk with on a regular basis.

    From our perspective, this article has little to do with Tullian and more to do with how God can work in people’s lives, regardless of their situation. It is not meant to make trivial a difficult situation but, again, to speak to those who have lost hope and who desperately need to hear the words, “God is not done with me yet.”

    Having said that, please respect the heart and purpose of this article, the mission of ExPastors.com, and be slow to speculate on things we have little to no information about. Though at the time we are not censoring comments, we will also not engage any conversation that directly goes against the mission and vision of ExPastors.com.

    • Concerned

      How does posting extensive writing from the mind of someone suffering from Narcisistic Personality Disorder help other people? Tullian is a confirmed and very clinically obvious case. NPDs do not commit suicide.

      God’s forgiveness, restoration and redemption of our lives hinges on true repentance. True repentance and healing is impossible given the publicized timeline of events. I am personally close to this situation and know that there are gaping voids still that Tullian himself would know to address if he had come to a place in his walk with God that he should be at to be on such a platform as this. Tullian is still perpetuating lies towards his victims. Putting him back in the public eye only 6 months on from the blow up in Orlando (when a PR rep was immediately hired by Tullian) is too soon. For someone with issues as complex and ingrained as Tullian does, a prolonged period of professional therapy would be needed to simply scratch the surface. This writing is very sick, embarrassing, and quite frankly, extensively manipulative.

      Your site is one of hope. Truly God restores broken and ruined lives and PRAISE HIS NAME for that. But jumping on the bandwagon of sympathy and support right now is damaging for many…victims still struggling…and for Tullian himself. Tullian should not have a platform as a writer or an orator at this stage in his life. He is a danger to himself and to others.

      Here is a link to a series of lectures from Dr. Diane Langberg regarding NPD in the church:

      http://globaltraumarecovery.org/narcissism-and-the-system-it-breeds-part-15/

      NPD is simply dangerous and should be treated as such, not facilitated. Especially on a site addressing potentially hurting and vulnerable ex-pastors. Heralding fraudulent brokenness will mislead and ultimately hurt those who believe Tullian’s narrative and use it to encourage themselves.

      • Nothing is Impossible

        Impossible, huh? Thank God that you’re not God. I wouldn’t stand a chance.

        • Concerned

          Please read what I said. Obviously, it is possible that the worst of us can find grace and true repentance. I stated that, given particulars surrounding Tullian’s individual case, it’s impossible that he could as yet be in the place where his voice should be a public one used to encourage people who may be hurting.

  • hoping

    T. you not only took for granite your marriage, and position at church.
    Put you’re taking The Lord’s Grace for granite as well

    • Good Kid

      I tend to agree with this. Did you use text to speech because I know you mean “granted” not “granite”.

  • connie

    I know of two men who fell and later were successfully restored to ministry. For them it was wiser to lay down professional ministry to work in the marketplace for a time. For any of us when we get our identity out of our ministry instead out of our position as a child of God…..well, God has to knock that idol down. We are all ministers. There is no shame in selling insurance, or being a painter,etc. God meets us there.

  • To be clear, we created ExPastors.com to be a place for healing and hope for those who are currently in or who have stepped away from ministry (for a variety of reasons). Though we understood that posting this article would create heated conversations, we are also convinced that God will use these words to help a lot of hurting people, many of whom we have met and talk with on a regular basis.

    From our perspective, this article has little to do with Tullian and more to do with how God can work in people’s lives, regardless of their situation. It is not meant to make trivial a difficult situation but, again, to speak to those who have lost hope and who desperately need to hear the words, “God is not done with me yet.”

    Having said that, please respect the heart and purpose of this article, the mission of ExPastors.com, and be slow to speculate on things we have little to no information about. Though at the time we’ve only censoring a limited amount of comments, we will also not engage any conversation that directly goes against the mission and vision of ExPastors.com.

    • Concerned

      http://globaltraumarecovery.org/narcissism-and-the-system-it-breeds-part-15/

      Why was my comment deleted? Giving an obviously sick man a platform like this is irresponsible. Cheapening grace is a damaging narrative to those of us who need it most.

      • GregAtkinson

        I hope it was deleted. In case you haven’t come to the realization yet – we’re all sick, we’re all sinful, we all mess up. None of us have it together. None of us are sinless. That’s why God gives us grace and mercy.

        • Concerned

          Don’t speak for God regarding His heart toward Tullian Tchividjian. Have you fasted and prayed for discernment before engaging with this man? I suggest you do. He is dangerous. He may have charmed you. I’ve been there too. I don’t judge him, I leave that to God who assures me that He will. God’s justice is every bit as pure as His mercy, and although His mercy triumphs, repentance is required. You are duped and gullible, if given the published facts surrounding Tullian’s last year, you think he could be anything other than a danger to the body of Christ. Using him as an example of anything on your website is foolish.

  • Grace Junkie Pastor

    The self-righteous vitriol is fascinating. Having followed this story for the last six months, I have concluded that repentance, in the eyes of many on the internet, including several “Christian bloggers” who do nothing but rant on pastors, is impossible for Tullian. Nothing he says or do will ever be good enough. On this very thread, it was stated that “God’s forgiveness hinges on true repentance… repentance is impossible at this point for Tullian.” I don’t know his heart. I’m not defending him or saying that he should be restored. I say these things knowing this comment will be blasted and I’ll be accused of “defending Tullian” or “blaming the victims.” Nope, I’m standing up for the Gospel. The Gospel IS as good as he says it is. The Gospel he preaches is Biblical. As for the comment about the Law’s life in the believer being “unChristian,” that tells me all I need to know about that person’s theology. I can’t do that anymore. I’m a pastor myself. Law-focused Christianity doesn’t work. Tullian’s sin doesn’t negate the Gospel. The Gospel is big enough to forgive him, whether the folks on this thread want to or not. Are you angered by Tullian asking for forgiveness? Well, grace does that. It’s uncomfortable, it’s messy, and thank God, it’s not based on my performance.

    • GregAtkinson

      Amen. Thank you, pastor.

    • Amy Hamilton Brown

      I agree. I’m also not sure where the Bible says that pastors must repent more publicly than others, and certainly not every detail to everyone on the internet. Yes, the Gospel really is this good, and YES, sometimes it is hard when we are hurt to realize that Jesus is this good to the person who has hurt us. I pray for the people in his personal life who have truly been hurt, and I pray for him as well.

  • Jack Eason

    wow…wow…the comments…this, my brothers and sisters, is why the world wants nothing to do with this Christianity. Yes, we can be honest, we can share our feelings, but if the tone is not love, we are a clanging symbol. The world will believe our story by our love for one another.
    Sad to see some of the exchanges on this page.

    • GregAtkinson

      I agree, Jack. My heart hurts tonight.

      • Jack, I would say that we focus on the words of encouragement. Loads in the beginning of the conversation.

  • Concerned

    Tullian is a pathological liar. You cannot believe the degree to which this guy can spin. Ask anyone close to the situation or go straight to the Lord and ask Him! Tullian is sick. There is a difference between spreading scandal and warning people. Take heed. You are damaging your ministry by associating with this man. Now you are spinning the comments section by attacking anyone with differing opinions or more knowledge. This is shameful.

    God’s restoration process is not rushed like this. People are right to cry “foul”.

  • Michelle

    I’m so glad we have perfect people here casting the stones Jesus was talking about. By saying he can’t be forgiven you are saying God’s mercy and grace and Jesus’s death wasn’t enough to cover his sins and that’s the biggest lie. They have no limit. God used murders, adulters, liars, thieves and so many other messed up people for His glory. Judgment is not up to any of you, you do not know his heart because that’s strictly between him and God. You all are called to forgive and live in unity, bringing others to Jesus. These comments are literally the reason non believers look at us and say “no thank you” and I don’t blame them. I am so glad people don’t determine the stipulations for faith with God…

    • GregAtkinson

      Amen. I totally agree. God used all kind of messed up people in Scripture and you know what, He still does. Praise God. I know you get that. I, too, wonder what a watching world thinks when Christians eat there own.

    • And I’m Cute, Too

      Who is saying Tullian can’t be forgiven? As far as I’m concerned, he can be forgiven, but shouldn’t be making bank off of Jesus anymore, in any way. He forfeited that right when he chose to defy common ethics (and possibly the law) by sleeping with a congregant.

  • Jane Doe

    Thank you for sharing your story. A helpful reminder of God’s great grace and our daily dependence on Him. Helpful for pastors and lay persons alike.

  • GregAtkinson

    I just came in after a full day of training. I want to post and then go to bed, as I have another long day of training tomorrow. I will not argue or debate. I am the Executive Director here at ExPastors.com. I made the contact with Tullian and I invited him to write for us. He didn’t seek it out.

    We are not getting paid anything (as someone suggested). As a matter of fact, none of us here get paid. It’s a labor of love. We ask for your prayers as we minister to thousands of pastors all around the world (many with similar stories as Tullian’s).

    My heart hurts tonight. Yes, I am encouraged and thrilled to read the many positive and encouraging voices offering prayers and hope to Tullian. You guys truly get, understand and clearly have experienced grace. I do too, that’s why I named my first-born child Grace. It’s my favorite word.

    To all those (and you’re a minority) that seek to tear down Tullian and his story – using this forum as a place to spew vicious attacks and accusations, shame on you.

    Do you know what grace means? It’s unmerited favor. Unmerited. Grace is undeserved. You can’t earn it. It’s not performance-based. God gives us grace freely (because of the finished work of Christ on the cross) and thank God, His mercies are new every morning.

    Maybe you don’t need grace and mercy, but I do. I’m a sinner. I don’t have it all together. I’m a work in progress. I like to think we all are.

    Here’s where I get upset and broken-hearted at the same time: A man – yes a flawed man, yes a former pastor – yes a sinner – a man, shared a very honest and vulnerable story of wanting to commit suicide and THEN posted his suicide note. Have you ever read a suicide note before? I haven’t until now.

    Do you have any idea how many people this article will help? Any idea? We get thousands of emails from hurting pastors all over the world. In the last 3 days, I have spoken with pastors in New Zealand, Australia, Canada, Alaska, around the US, and right here in Charlotte, NC where I live. A pastor in my area (who found out what I was doing) – reached out to me on Facebook and said, “Greg, I’m about to be an ex-pastor. Can I talk to you?” Of course!

    That’s why we exist. To have real, genuine and honest conversations. NOT to judge and throw stones. Shame on you. Come on (small minority) – how self-righteous and pious can you be? Are you not aware of how you fall short? Do you know there is no such thing as big and small sins? All sin is equal at the foot of the cross. Yes, different sins have different consequences, but all of us are sinners.

    I think of the Parable that Jesus shared of the Pharisee who prayed, “Lord, I thank you that I am not like this man – a sinner…” I also think of Jesus saying, “Let him without sin cast the first stone.” How many stones have you thrown today? What would be Jesus’ response. I know to the woman CAUGHT IN ADULTERY, he said, “Neither do I condemn you. Go sin no more.” That’s unconditional love, grace and mercy – and I don’t know about you, but I need that daily.

    I’m done preaching (forgive me, I’m a pastor and I take this ministry to the hurting and broken in our world very seriously). May we all (including me) take the PLANK out of our own eye, before even attempting to point out the speck in another’s eye.

    ExPastors.com has a huge mission of offering help, hope and healing to all who come here. Let’s be a place that receives them well. All are welcome.

    And to you, hurting pastor (maybe you too have fallen), who has silently watched all the comments go back and forth – know that I love you, we love you, and most importantly – Jesus loves you perfectly and unconditionally.

    Your job as a pastor is not your identity. Your identity is that you are a dearly loved son or daughter of God. Rest in that and know that we are here for you. Just reach out. There are people who genuinely care for your health and well-being.

    And negative commenters and so called “haters,” we love you, too. You are welcome to disagree and voice your disagreement. That’s your right. We try our best not to moderate comments unless they get vulgar or nasty. We do LOVE YOU. And you don’t have to receive that or love us back. It’s unconditional. You don’t have to earn our love and respect. It’s freely given.

    I can’t say this enough: If you or someone you loved shared something as personal and sensitive and vulnerable as a suicide note, I would thank you for being brave and the LAST thing I would do is criticize you. God help us. God have mercy.

    Lastly, I want to ask us all to pray for Tullian. He sees these comments, too. The good and the bad. Pray that God would sustain him and draw close to him, as Tullian draws close to God. Pray that he would not fall prey to the dark and demonic voices crying out to him, attacking him and oppressing him.

    And the last time I checked, we don’t have to agree with someone to lift them up in prayer. Just do it. We all need prayer. Pray for us here at ExPastors.com. We have a huge calling to help the hurting. Please, please pray for us. Good night, friends. Again, I want be responding to any comments.

    • Eileen

      Thank you for commenting to the grace-less comments. When these public moments of sin are revealed, I am always reminded of David, who Scripture says was a man after God’s own heart…wow. TT was used by God to teach me what grace is, even though I had been a Christian for most of my life. It was a very radical transformation and Christ became so beautiful to me. I had never understood the idea of Jesus being beautiful until I started to understand grace. It saddened me, though I was not surprised at T’s “fall from from grace”, though I think he actually fell into it – as I did, and continue to do on a daily basis. It is the internal sins of my heart that I find so deplorable, and I rejoice in knowing that God knows them more deeply than I do and yet still loves me. It is His grace that reveals them, and it is His grace that heals them. Hallelujah, what a Savior. He is TT’s beautiful Savior as well.

    • Greg, thanks for posting this article. I am proud of—and grateful for—the work you are doing. May God continue to abundantly bless your work.

    • Thanks for posting this article. It’s very meaningful and Gospel-ful.

  • Kandace Rather

    We love you, Tullian. And I understand that dark place very well. We are thankful you are sitting with Jesus in your pain so you can come out of this being able to truly sit with others in their pain. From true compassion. Needing no cameras, lights or shout outs on social media. Just loving people because Jesus loves them.

    I encourage you to forgive the church…if you haven’t made that choice. The same mercy God has given you in Christ, is the same mercy that will lead you to forgive those who abandoned you. There really is a sweet place in Christ when we are forsaken by man and we discover He is truly who we hunger for. When we come out of that season, we are more aware of the idols that once tried to feed our needy souls. By grace our resolve to cling only to Christ becomes our greatest pursuit.

  • Angie Ishere

    We love you Tullian! Miss your sermons like crazy! I wish I could re-listen to them all but they aren’t online anymore! I totally get what you are going through, going through it myself, just under different circumstances. I never knew the darkness could get this dark. It is still very dark and bleak for me. But you get it don’t you! Hang in there my brother! Grace never runs out and praise God for that! ““The LORD bless you and keep you; the LORD make his face shine on you and be gracious to you; the LORD turn his face toward you and give you peace.” (Num 6:22-27)
    Love you bro!

  • disqus_k7ScL0x7iz

    Years ago I strayed from God, much like Tullian. For years I believed I was beyond forgiveness and that God had had it with me. Then I read One Way Love and felt that it could have been written for me. No book has ever impacted me like Tullian’s book. I read it three times, and realized for the first time that God loved me incredibly and that I could never outsin his grace!! I love you, Tullian, and pray for you frequently. The same amazing grace is available to you, too, and I believe God will use you again. We are human, imperfect people, and none of us are without sin.

  • Ryan Abbott

    The journey God has taken me on over the last two years has been one of complete deconstruction…not just externally but internaLly.”

    Didn’t he commit adultery on his wife? How can he say God brought him onto that path?

    • I doubt he was speaking of his affair when he said this.

    • CJ Santos

      His wife cheated on him and he there in cheated on her. God knows our paths. He’s not saying that that’s God desire for him.

    • John Simmons

      The same with Davids murder and adultery . God used our sin so he could bring us back by glorifying himself through our repentance. I can think of a number of people in scripture this happened to.

  • CJ Santos

    Tullian, we love you man. I’m grateful for you.

  • James

    Thank you for the honesty Tullian, it is never easy to admit the darkest places that we have been, whether people think we have great lives or they’ve just seen the surface of the dark places. I am always encouraged by admissions like this, in the way that only those who have been there can be. For most of my Christian walk I have struggled to reconcile the belief that God loves me with the immediate reality that much of the time I hate myself and too many times I have resented God because of his love. I’ve been in the places of despair that led to making rules that guns and rope will never be welcome in my home, but more than rules I thank God for his restraining grace, the one I can break while the other I can’t. You are not alone brother, I hope that what you have posted lets you see that more clearly. There are more who suffer silently until it can’t be contained anymore than any of us would like to admit. Honesty like this empowers others to admit, “I am not ok and I’m a lot worse than just that” instead of going further than they ever thought they could. I pray that you continue to find hope in the gospel that Jesus is good enough and that you are freed from the despair that you aren’t but wish you could be. I pray that for myself and any others who will read your words. Thank you.

  • Hugh McCann

    Amen, Tullian. Going through the same slough of despond. Christ carries us!

  • m.miller

    There is a fundamental issue that I’m not seeing delineated. If TT is truly repentant, then
    Restoration to the church, yes. Restoration to church leadership, no.
    So please pour out your prayers and well wishes for TT as you feel led, but stop short of advocating or putting him back in the pulpit, selling books or teaching seminars. No income from selling Jesus as part of a para-church, either. Let him work in private industry like a “civilian,” let him alone to care for his family and lead as normal a life as possible.

    His lies and deceptions have disqualified him from church leadership. The Bible is clear on this.
    No persons, pastors, or “helpful” ministries should cross the line into enabling a predator to harm or abuse the flock again, relationally, spiritually or financially.

    • Keegan Wulf

      Normally I make it a point to have grace in every response I have to a message. But this, this I find an abomination to the grace that saves us all. I reject the premise you present that sin is more powerful than the redemption of Christ. Restoration to Church leadership – dependent to the call of Father on his life, not your’s.

    • Ob Cruz

      I wish I could understand your point and see it clearly but In that case may God had mercy, Christ have mercy, cuz then everyone should be disqualified for serving ever in any position in a church.
      Cuz we are all liars, hypocrites and all!. As Paul will put it, the chief of sinners, that’s each and everyone of us and yet Christ allowed him to serve.

    • Andrea Johnson

      I think it’s God’s business whether a person is reinstated to ministry. David committed murder after his affair and God definitely could’ve removed him from his position of leadership (as He did Saul), but He did not. He is the only One who sees his heart. And He’s the Lord of the harvest who sends the laborers as He wishes. So I have no opinion on whether TT should be in church leadership or when. Who am I to have one? TT himself is not even in that position truly. It’s our Lord who ultimately decides.

    • Kelly Jo Barr

      I know a pastor who fell into the sin of adultery and in repentance and prayer the church sought restoration. He went through a period of time where he was not in leadership (a few years) and has now been restored… His marriage is healed/healing… and he’s in ministry again… Repentance. To turn from sin and to God. Why should someone be held back because of falling if that’s what it took for them to fall on their knees?

    • John Simmons

      He never said he was coming back to ledership. The qualifications for leadership are not of past actions but present character. If it was based on past actions then no one would ever be qualified. I would rather have a pastor who failed and learned from it then one that is so called perfect.

    • J. Landrum

      What Bible verse disqualifies him? The character qualities of an elder from Titus and Timothy don’t indicate “If he has lied or deceived previously as a leader may he never be a leader again.” Yes, probably not now as he is still healing, but who are you to say God can NEVER redeem? (I believe Peter deceived and lied and DENIED Christ…but pretty sure God redeemed him to CHURCH and LEADERSHIP.)

  • “The gospel doesn’t just free you from what other people think about you; it frees you from what you think about yourself.”

    Boy if that’s not truth…

    I was saddened by some of the comments as I read thru them. But I’m more than hopeful that God’s grace covers everything. I’m so glad we can reference a Book that tells the stories of those whom follow God and have their flaws exposed and are not held back or covered up. From murder to adultry, from liars to thieves, the Bible is chalked full of flawed, imperfect human beings all in need of Gods love mercy and grace.

    Oh this gives me so much hope.

    Thanks Tullian for your courage to share part of your story.

    I’ve personally talked to and witnessed both Bo and Greg’s heart with Expastors. Thank you both for working tirelessly to help pastors and ex pastors walk and weather the waters of ministry.

  • Dan McGhee

    No hate here whatsoever. In fact, I am quite sure this has been an unimaginable struggle for Tullian. As a pastor I have great sympathy for Tullian, his ex-wife, and his family. I know the challenges I’ve faced in my own home at times and I know that it is only by God’s grace that we are sustained even now.

    Having said that, Tullian I’m praying for you, but I’m also praying that you will lay aside any ambition to get back into ministry that you’ve retained deep within the corner of your soul, brother. You are Biblically disqualified from the role of Elder in the local congregation. Your true humility will be displayed once you no longer long for the spotlight or allow others to pull you into it. I hope that you will be convinced of this for the sake of the Gospel and out of love for Christ’s bride.

    There is still much you can do for the Lord that allows His sovereign purpose to be fulfilled in your life. And in this you will find joy, peace, and fulfillment. May God grant you even more of His grace to help you find this place of satisfaction.

  • Paula

    Thank you for being candid. Thank God for His new mercies everyday. And though I am walking in the valley, He is there and so I keep walking.

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for posting.

  • Meredith Good

    Tullian, God seems to have always used you and your naked honesty as a way for others to more clearly see Him. The glory will really go to Him; I see it in this writing. I understand the depths, in some sense; different set of circumstances but, those with familiar hues. I remain encouraged at your candid words, as in reality, I too feel desperation and hopelessness at times, and this is the kind of stuff that makes me want to keep on. Not sure if that makes any sense, but just trying to say, I never stopped believing in what God made you to be. Indeed, He is so not done, and I pray for a balm to your spirit. May He restore your soul, yes, as in “SOUL” like soul-groove! The part of you that catches a beat and hums to it; the pure, translucent personality and fun-loving person. May He restore the joy. May the peace that confuses others be yours. And as He does, I trust that more will see Him through you. Blessings, brother!

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  • Phylla

    Thank you for sharing your heart out. Many are hurting for the same reason you are. Your books have helped me a lot. I am still going through dark moments in life, though. This honest post of yours can save lives.

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  • Andrew

    It’s probably not worth replying since you aren’t taking me seriously, but regarding Jesus’ imperative to “forgive seventy times seven”: forgiveness is not the same as reconciliation and restoration. Forgiveness does not mean giving TT a platform to make his story seem so sad and give no voice to the people that he hurt. Are they still hurting? Has he apologized to them? Those are important questions to ask. And in the end is it really *our* place to forgive (when he hasn’t wronged us, per se) or does that rest with those he has wronged?

  • ldo

    Dear Mr. Tchividjian, God loves you still. He is faithful and just to forgive if… He gave His Son to die for our sins, all of them. He knew our sin before we chose it. No matter how low we sink, even to the deepest trenches of the blackest ocean, there is still a way back made possible by Yeshua: confession & repentance (Tshuvah). We must do this as often as needed and accept His forgiveness by faith, because we don’t deserves it. Then we are to go and try again to sin no more. Stop torturing yourself and others by seeking to be heard, known, and understood. What tempts you, is common to us all, the Word says. So is the way out. One antidote to the pitfall you painfully describe, is choosing daily a life of anonymity. Online or on stage platforms are toxic for this heart problem, but you already know this. I know you long for peace more than life itself. You will only find it when the center of your life is about someone other than yourself. We must each ask ourselves: Is Jesus’ life, death, resurrection and pursuit of us enough? Sometimes it isn’t. Sometimes we knowingly reject Him, using our God-given freedom to be our own god. But, hallelluja, this is the same freedom that makes choosing Him over oneself also possible.

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William Graham Tullian Tchividjian ("Tulllian") @TullianT is the former senior pastor of Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. A graduate of Columbia International University, where he earned a degree in philosophy, and Reformed Theological Seminary in Orlando, where he earned his Master of Divinity, he is also the grandson of Evangelist Billy Graham and the best selling author of seven books. During his time at Coral Ridge, Tullian founded LIBERATE—a ministry that sought to “connect God’s inexhaustible grace to an exhausted world” through conferences, a website, a daily radio program and a weekly TV broadcast.