Rune Soup and 42 Minutes / recommended interviews

Gordon White of Rune Soup

I was honored to take part in two very good audio interviews, both are now up on line.

Douglas Bolles hosts a Sync Book Podcast

The first was with Gordon White from RUNE SOUP, the other was with Douglas Bolles from 42 MINUTES. These are two of the smartest, most insightful researchers in this field. Both are digging in areas that well below the waterline. Gordon's book Star Ships is amazing. It's a powerful experience to be asked questions that allow me to wrestle with these more challenging avenues of thought.

  Rune Soup and 42 Minutes linked here  

Both interviews are recommended, as are their entire catalog of other podcasts.

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Below is a comment posted below the Rune Soup podcast. Seems someone is having exactly the experiences that I've been trying to make some sense of.

um freaky timing for this interview because I was hearing an owl hooting this past sunday afternoon and saw a ufo while it was happening. The ufo and hooting both ceased at the same time. I tried to take pictures of the ufo but it was so sunny I could not see if I was focused on it, too much glare. I got nuthin. Then I looked for the owl but never found it. I have not heard or seen an owl in the daytime in 25 years. It was most definitely an owl hooting, it was a sound I was more familiar with as a child where I grew up than where I live now. I learned how to call owls during some nature class as a kid and I used to go out in the woods and call and sometimes one would fly close.I have never felt that owls or ufos are signifying the presence of death so much as the presence of a reality that is not my known reality. I have never experienced owl hooting and a ufo sighting at the same time. It was really weird but I do love weird so it made my day. It just felt like a reminder that the world I am walking around in is not the whole picture.

yippee for this timely interview with Mike Clelland, it feels like my sunday afternoon just had an addendum.

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The visionary paintings of Shawn Thornton

self portrait, Shawn Thorton

All throughout my early adulthood, I struggled from the mental and physical effects of a slow growing tumor in my brain, the symptoms of which were repeatedly misdiagnosed by my doctors as purely psychological in origin, and it ultimately took over half a decade to get a proper diagnosis and treatment to shrink the tumor. I suffered immeasurably during this period from having repeatedly undergone a host of treatments meant to treat the symptoms of mental illness, and paradoxically, from a mental illness that ultimately could not be contained. The tumor was in the very center of my brain, in a small, mysterious organ at the top of the spinal column, the pineal gland. I didn’t have any prior reason to consider the actual material existence of the pineal before this. 

During his time at art school, Shawn Thornton unknowingly developed cancer of the pineal gland. As his condition progressed his art transformed into something awash in mythology and symbolism. His portfolio is astonishing. More HERE, and HERE.

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I suffered from a slow growing cancer in my pineal gland while I attended art school and during subsequent years while my paintings developed with an underlined mythology that alluded directly to the pineal years before I even know of its existence.

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Painting, for me, is largely an attempt to decrypt the mechanisms of illness through a disciplined medium. I feel, on some deep internal level, that through my painting practice I’m engaged in a psychic process to illuminate the intricate vessels and cogs of an insidious physic current that stems, in part, from having had a serious illness, and all the subtle and profound ways I was altered by this experience.

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Robbie Graham is Re-Framing the Debate

exploring the complex issues of UFOs 

Imagine you are at a UFO convention, and you start a conversation with someone. They tell you their ideas and experiences, and it paints a nice clear picture of just what is going on with the big messy UFO mystery. After that, you talk to someone else, and they tell you about thier ideas and experiences, but everything they say is at odds with what the first person said. Yet, they are both very convincing and their analysis is intriguing. The same thing happens with the third conversation, and the forth.

This is how it plays out, everybody has differing ideas. Some opinions are in alignment and others are wildy divergent. It can be maddening, but this is how it is.

This book is a powerful collection of contrasting essays. Each chapter is a different exploration of the same subject. I am proud to be one of the contributors. The book is titled UFOs Re-framing the Debate.

These writers are not form the mainstream of UFO research. They are instead the the outlying thinkers in this field. Some are the young guns, and others are the voices crying in the wilderness.

     Also...  
Robbie Graham has compiled these stories, and also played the role of *my editor. I was grateful for his keen guidance. He ended up nixing a long section of my essay, and it was a good decision. What I wrote was good and I plan on adding that unused segment here on the blog. It is about the discouraging issues of UFO Disclosure.

     And this too... 
Get Robbie's other book too! I want to start up my podcast again just to talk with Robbie about SILVER SCREEN SAUCERS. I love this book!

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The New York Times has a remarkably balanced article on UFOs

Article title from the New York Times with the word "Proves" in it

The New York Times has recently published a remarkably even-keeled article about a recent UFO book. The book is titled UFO Sightings Desk Reference: United States of America 2001-2015, by Cheryl Costa and Linda Miller Costa. I haven't read the book, but it appears to be a thorough collection of statistical analysis of data collected by MUFON and NUFORC. The stats are broken down by state complete with graphs and year by year charts. What is remarkable is that the "paper of record" is treating this subject so blandly, as if it were a book detailing the annual facts and figures about car accidents.

This book is not any kind of sensationalistic expose, it's is a self published labor of love from two number crunchers.

typical page from the book full of facts and figure 

The article was penned by veteran journalist Ralph Blumenthal (right). A staff reporter for the NYTimes from from 1964 to 2009. He is now a free lance contributor to the paper, as well as the author of six non-fiction books mostly dealing with crime and police work. How this article made it into the pages of such a stoic paper leave me mystified.

Blumenthal is now in his mid-70's and maybe he's achieved the kind of standing at the paper where they'll just print whatever he drops on the editor's desk.

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I sent an email to Ralph Blumenthal, the author of the recent UFO article in the NYTimes. Below is my letter to him, and his reply.

I read your recent article about the 'UFO Sightings Desk Reference’ book. It struck me as remarkably even-keeled for a subject that is consistently dismissed by the main stream press. My question: How did that article make it into the pages of the New York Times? I have been researching the subject of UFOs and found your article remarkably refreshing and unbiased. 

Thank you.
with regards,
Mike Clelland
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Thanks, I'm aware of the Times's record on the subject. I was a reporter there for many years and know the editorial mindset so was able to pitch it sensitively. Also I'm writing a book on John Mack. 

Best wishes,
Ralph Blumenthal

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Of note:
Blumenthal penned an excellent article about John Mack in Vanity Fair back in May of 2013—linked HERE. Like the article in the Times, this was also remarkably balanced.

self published cover image

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new podcast series from Ryan Sprague

nice logo!

Ryan Sprague now has his very own podcast series. He is already on - like - five other podcasts, but he shares the mic with other hosts on all those other ones. I think he might find that doin' his own thing will allow for some deeper exploration.

Here's the inaugural episode, with Richard Dolan! (linked HERE)

UFO Hub video - Owls and UFO Contact

interview recorded in April of 2017 in Eureka Springs Arkansas

It was a delight to take part in this video. The director has a vision—and he's produced a series of high quality interviews.

The camera-man asked a few questions but his voice was edited out of the completed video, creating something calm and sparse. This was recorded at the 30th Anniversary of the Ozark Mountain UFO Conference, and I honored to have been a part of this wonderful event.

The chair where the recording happened

I realize that I need to explain my experiences to people who know nothing about me. This means telling the things stories over and over, and anyone familiar with what I've shared will recognize a few of these stories. No sound bites here, I was allowed to talk about my experiences and research without any pressure to make it seem zippy and fast paced. Thank you Adnan!

  more from UFO HUB here  

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an owl arrives while reading about owls and UFO contact

books from 1987 and '88

In mid-September of last year I received a very interesting letter from a man in Pennsylvania. He shared exactly the kind of experience that is at the heart of my owl and UFO research.

I don't remember the exact year it was but it was either 1990 or ‘91. I was in my mid 30’s. I had recently purchased Whitley Strieber’s books Communion, and Transformation for an amazing price of $2.00 each at a local Walmart. He wrote had always been interested in UFOs and sci-fi, and was totally terrified when he saw the movie based on Communion. He said, “I never understood the intensity of the fear… and wanted to read these books as a way to handle the terror I felt from the movie.”

There was some tension at home one night, his wife and daughters were bickering about school and clothes. He describes the events that followed.

I retreated to the basement and started looking through the Transformation book. I came to a part were he was talking about seeing owls before an ET encounter. This was the first I had heard about this.

My wife then frantically called me upstairs so I shut the book and went to see what was wrong.

She looked at me and said, “There's an owl on the porch.”

I kind of froze for a second because of what I had just read and slowly went to look out the front door window. I had two snow tires laying on the porch and sitting on top of them was a very large owl. I stared in disbelief as it turned its herd and looked right up at me, spread its wings and flew away. I could not believe what I just saw, its wingspan stretched across the entire porch which is six feet. I felt an increasing terror at the coincidence of just reading about a possible relationship between owls and aliens but I had to push the thought aside and help get the kids settled for bed.

I had a very difficult time getting to sleep that night and when I did I had terrible nightmares about little demon faced creatures crawling around the the bedroom window. They were mumbling something when my alarm went off and that was all I remember about the dream. 

I have never seen any owls so close since and have only told this to a few people. I have hesitated to talk about it because of the coincidence of reading what I did right before seeing the owl.

This is the first time I have written this down. Other than how it effected me it is just an interesting coincidence.

That he was called to see an owl at precisely the moment he was reading about owls and UFO contact is astounding. This should feel normal to me by now, but it doesn't. I am continually amazed at the power in these stories.

He told me in a follow up email that, “I actually never did read the Transformation book. I was too scared at the time... and how I was flipping through it that night when I saw the parts about owls.”

This account prompted me to go back and review Transformation. I bought a Kindle version (at a low price) and searched out the owl segments. I was shocked at how much owl stuff was in that book. What he Whitley wrote back in 1998 is, in many ways, what I have worked so hard to say in my own book. Yet what he has written is poetic, perceptive and right to the point. 

I wrote about this in a post from last Autumn—linked HERE. There are several passages from those two books included in that essay.

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Links for both The Communion Letters and Transformation. Both are required reading and both are available for the very low price of $3.99.

Audio excerpt from Transformation linked  HERE

The What Cast

I've done a lot of audio interviews in the last 16 months since the book was published. I did one recently and it went really well. Their site is HERE. The hosts pushed me deeper into the weirdness than I usually go, and this is alright by me! This is a recommended interview, 1:30 in lenght.

  The What Cast interview HERE  

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owl and hawk in Phoenix

1.“Something doesn't look right here! 

Wait, there are more than two wings here!!! That looks like a red tail!??”



This was the first image (above) in a series of photos posted by Jujuolui Kuita on her Facebook wall. She's an emergency animal tech, and was called out to a location in suburban Phoenix because of an "injured owl." When she arrived on the scene there was something up in a tree, but it was initially hard to make out what it might be.



2. An owl face in among the wings



Eventually she saw the face of a great horned owl peering out from a tangle of wings. She was unclear of what she was seeing—there was more than just an owl stuck up in that tree. Jujuolui went and got a ladder from the truck.



3. "Just set the ladder, 

suddenly, the red-tailed hawk came falling down!"



The motion of the ladder bumping the tree must have startled the owl enough to free itself from the dead hawk that had been stuck on top of it.



4. The dead hawk now on the ground.




5. Without the weight of the hawk on him, 

the owl was able to get free and fly away—seeking safety in this tree.




6. Jujuolui holding the dead hawk

She was terribly saddened that this big beautiful hawk had died. What made this even more upsetting was that there was another hawk perched high in a nearby tree. This second hawk seemed distressed, and was watching what was happening below. They realized this was probably the female mate to the dead male hawk on the ground.



7.  Female red-tailed way up at the top in a nearby tree, 

with her mate on the ground below her. 




8. Jujuoli labeled this photo: "Sorry for your loss."

Jujuolui contacted Wild at Heart, an Arizona-based raptor rescue center, and they suggested that she leave the body of the hawk under the tree so the female could realize he had died and begin the grieving process. She labeled the photo: "Sorry for your loss."


Jujuolui told me she cried at the base of that tree, "It was really sad. I felt the intense pain of the female hawk."

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Something happened in that tree. There had been a battle between an owl and a hawk, but why they fought no one will ever know. Perhaps one bird had had gotten into the other’s territory. Maybe the owl was attempting to take over the nest of the hawk. 

Why were they stuck together? It seems that the weight of the dead hawk had pinned the owl into the branches. Could the fight have left the owl injured? Or, maybe it was left too exhausted to free itself from the hawk it had killed. Perhaps their talons ended up locked together. Whatever the cause, Jujuolui was allowed an interesting and rare glimpse into animal behavior. 

But what is even more fascinating is that Jujuolui is a lifelong experiencer of UFO contact, and a few of these events involved owls. There is a powerful symbolic aspect not only to what happened with the owl and hawk, but that someone with UFO experiences would be “called” to that tree. 

She was well aware of the significance and said so in the comment thread below her own photos. She wrote: “I felt there was some omen to this… I felt like just a spectator,” and, “I think there is much symbolism to this event!”

Jujuolui confronted two raptors, both imbued with ancient lore, one a symbol of the night and the other the day. One represents death, the other the power of life. The owl is an inward totem, representing the secrets of the unseen worlds. The hawk is a bold emblem of strength and courage. The owl was victorious, yet pinned down by the weight of the defeated. And it was a UFO experiencer, someone who has crossed the boundaries between the worlds that freed it from burden of it’s shadow spirit. She used a ladder to free the owl, and in dream symbolism the ladder could mean spiritual ascension or climbing to higher level of self discovery. 

Another thing that struck me was this happened in Phoenix, a city named after the mythic bird, the symbol of death in flames and rebirth from the ashes. When I pointed this out to her she said, “I know, how fascinating! I was told in a 'dream' that I was to move to this city. It was after everything I owned burned up!”

I contacted her and asked some questions, the first being the same I would ask anyone: “What is going on in your life during the lead up to this event?”

She replied that her life at the time had been extremely difficult, she had been feeling hopeless and depressed. I had initially edited these personal details out of the first draft, but she said, “I don't mind you sharing that. It is true and it might give hope to others who are in need of looking inward for strength and guidance.”

Her dog Katrina had died recently, and she was grieving over the loss of her best friend and companion. Jujuolui is extremely empathic, and the animal rescue work can be emotionally challenging. One of the patterns I have seen in this research is that people who have had these contact experiences will often be working with animals. That and a profound sense of empathy. 

The night before the owl and hawk event she had asked for help. Just before going to bed she sought guidance from her star-family (including her dog Katian) on three problems . She said, “My dream that [next] morning was my guides telling me they solved two out of the three problems/issues I have asked help on! I don't know which issues they were! Ha!”

I explained that it felt like something symbolic that might only be understood at the unconscious level of the archetype. She replied, “I knew it meant something and I felt honored to be a part of this event. It was very sad.”

She was clear that what happened was definitely a “pay attention” moment.

Jujuolui has been outspoken her experiences, and is the subject of full chapter in the recent book Meet the Hybrids by Barbara Lamb and Miguel Mendonça. She also published her own book in 2012 We Are Among You Already. 

One of her owl stories was featured on page 211 in my book The Messengers. Like the owl and the hawk account here, this one also features her photograph of a great horned owl. Jujuolui's excerpt is posted HERE.

photo by Jujuolui Kuita

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Owl on the roof

This is an excerpt from page 211 of my book The Messengers. It features an account from Jujuolui Kuita, who shared her owl and hawk experience in this posting HERE.

Like that other account, this one also has a great horned owl photographed by Jujuolui.

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I’ve talked with a woman named Jujuolui at several different UFO conferences over the years, and she is very open about her contact experiences. She also tells of having a lot of owl encounters and feels certain these are part of her interactions with the gray aliens and their craft. Some of these owls seem like screen memories, where they take on some of the visual characteristics of the grays.

Jujuolui told me how she awoke one night to the sounds of a hooting owl. Waking up in the middle of night is unusual for her, unless there is some contact event unfolding. Her thought was that this wasn’t an owl, but instead an alien being on her roof making this hooting noise.

She was compelled to get out of bed, go outside and take a picture of what she assumed was a gray alien. She told me, “If it were a normal owl, I would not have done this, I would have ignored it and kept sleeping!”

Jujuolui and she clearly felt she was being told to point and click her camera in the direction of the house. It was pitch black outside and she took a picture with the bright flash. When she looked at the image on the back of her digital camera, there was a big owl perched on the corner of the roof. She was told to take another picture, and she thought, “Surely if this was an owl it wouldn’t stay so close to me for another picture, especially after the first flash of the camera! I took a picture again, sure enough, there it was!” That owl on the roof was positioned directly above her bed.

The photo is obviously of a real owl, but I cannot dismiss her feelings of being compelled to go out into the night with her camera. Was this feeling somehow projected into her from an outside source? If so, what would be the purpose? She left her house thinking she was going to take a picture of an alien being, but instead got a picture of an owl. She told me the house was the site of a tremendous amount of experiences, mostly with the gray beings. She says they are like a second family to her.

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Great gray owl lands on a woman's head in New Hampshire

great gray owl landing

great gray owl landed

On Saturday March 11, 2017 Marsha Richelli of Portsmouth, NH was standing in the back of the field. She was simply observing and enjoying a wonderful visitor from the north. She then saw it flying towards her. Instead of freaking out like many would have done, Marsha calmly stood still as the Owl set down upon her head. It looked around for a few minutes, then flew off. It did not harm her at all. She said it was very light. I inspected her hood for any talon marks and there were none left by this gentle Owl. I just love this bird!

Photography and reporting by David Lipsy (left). His site is Eagle Eye Photography.

Owl and Marsha images shot with Canon EOS 7D Mark II, EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM + 2x III, ISO 640, 1/640 Sec, f/5.6, (EFL) 640mm. Hand Held, Cropped for Composition.

audio excerpt from Aliens in the Backyard

This is a really interesting story!

This is from Trish and Rob MacGregor's audio book. It's an eight minute long audio excerpt from their book. It is also posted along with the interview I did with them last week (the interview lined HERE).

The 2013 book Aliens in the Backyard can be found HERE.
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a flood of mean-spirited reviews aimed at UFO authors

a one-star review on Amazon from someone who has probably NOT read the book

Someone with the name PROLETARIAN is being Mr. Harshy-Pants on Amazon. This person has reviewed 104 products on amazon in less than a year. The cynical UFO critiques started March of 2016, and the most recent was March 1st of last year.

He gave 95 one-star reviews (the lowest you can give) with text like, “Bogus, complete rubbish, bunk, lies.” My book is shown above.

He gave outspoken skeptic Robert Shafer a five star review for his book titled: UFO Sightings: The Evidence. This person's review page linked HERE.

He did seven reviews in 3 days (between February 21 thru 23, 2017), and six reviews all in one day (Nov 9 2016). I feel strongly that this guy has NOT read the books he is reviewing, and is simply flooding the amazon reviews with his prejudice against the subject of UFOs. I'm all for people sharing their beliefs, but his reviews just seem obsessive and mean.

Authors depend on these reviews for their income. So these actions can have a real impact these authors in a very competitive market.

I have plenty my own issues with some books in the UFO field, but Jeeesh! He slams people I respect greatly, like Richard Dolan, Leslie Kean, Brett Oldham, Dr. Karla Turner, and Ardy Sixkiller Clarke.

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NOTE: I moved this from its initial posting date of April 3rd 2017. This seems like I am whining, and I don't wanna interrupt the flow of some wonderful stories that have been added recently. Mike C!

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The fellow going by PROLETARIAN obviously saw my post and added to his review (his initial Feb 15 review shown in full in the image at the top of this post). His amended text below. He brags about not reading the book.

Nonsense for gullible hicks. False. Fake. Bunk. Every chapter, to answer the query below, every paragraph and every line is FALSE. The evidence gathered is not "evidence". It's a tissue of falsehoods, insanity and a plain old desire for recognition, White Trash Style!
Owls are indeed revered by many cultures, but to THEN make the connection with ALIEN BEINGS FROM OUTER SPACE is absurd. No proof. No evidence. No logic.

There are no aliens. Owls are just birds. "Eyewitness" testimony is sheer drivel. Deluded rustics making things up in trailer parks.

You are responsible for your own lives. Aliens will not save you.

These alien books are bunk and I am proud to have never read them. Those who do are Trump morons who desperately believe they will become rich some day. Bah!
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John Mack talks about altered states of consciousness - audio and video

Important lecture from 2002

The same talk has been saved as an MP3 audio file
for easier listening

I've been making the effort to transfer youtube videos to audio

This is the audio of a talk given by Harvard psychiatrist Dr. John Mack at the International Conference on Altered States of Consciousness in Albuquerque, New Mexico. It was recorded October 25, 2002.

The synopsis of the lecture reads: "UFO encounters, near death experiences, shamanic journeys, and spontaneous religious epiphanies all have the power to bring about a significant transformation of consciousness. By this is meant that the experiencers’ worldview, as internalized in the course of their upbringing and inculcation in this culture, is shattered. This, in turn, results in the potential opening of heart and spirit to a wider appreciation of reality and a (re)connection to realms of the sacred and divine. In this lecture I will discuss how this process occurs in specific cases, and its implications for social and cultural change."

At the 6:45 time count Dr. Mack says:

"It's really strange, in our discussion [with experiencers present] every time we start by talking about light and vibration, and we end up talking about God." So it's as if these experiences all lead to some kind of spiritual opening as the awakening occurs.

I wrote something similar on page 121 of The Messengers:

"If you start out talking about little lights in the sky, you’ll very quickly start talking about God. You’ll end up wrestling with the really big questions. Who are we? Why are we here? What does it all mean?"

I say essentially the same thing. The question is, did I watch this presentation at some point and just kind of absorb what he said? Did he cover this theme in one of his final two books on the abduction subject? I really don't know. All I can say is that he's right.

Also—At the 57:00 minute mark he takes a question from a person in the room. From her voice, I am quite certain that this is Rosemary Ellen Guiley! This is a great interview with her HERE.

More excellent audio and video links to Dr. Mack's work linked HERE

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Barbara Lamb and the formation of a crop circle

Author, researcher, therapist, and experiencer, Barbara Lamb

This is a video of Barbara Lamb telling a remarkable personal experience of being taken on board a round craft for the making of a crop circle. Initially I thought this was the same story that was covered on page 151 in The Messengers. It wasn't, but the similarities are striking.

I felt I should point this out to the fellow who posted the video because I had recently sent him a copy of my book. 

I was doing three things at once: watching the video with Barbara, texting the fellow on Facebook, and at the same time searching a document of my book to find the relevant sub-chapter. 

When I found the headline I wanted, I highlighted it and hit command+cut just as Barbara spoke the words: "August 10th."

Here is what I had cut: August 10th and three crop circle events 

My grabbing that line of text and hearing the identical spoken words were simultaneous. This gave me the chills—the exactness of it kind of freaked me out!  

I sent the fellow a message, “Holy crap - weird sync AS I TYPED this!”

There is a blog post from 2013 titled: August 10th, crop circles and owls. This tells the same story (a bit more completely) than the abbreviated version in the book. That online essay tells of three separate crop circle events taking place on August 10th of different years, all relating to myself, owls—or both. 

One of the stories was from August 10th 2013. A friend of mine was in southern England on a crop circle tour and on the afternoon of August 9th, the entire crew of “croppies” all meditated for the appearance of a crop circle. She woke up at four the next morning and while lying in bed formally asked to be taken to see a crop circle being formed. Moments later she felt a weird rotating sensation, had an out-of-body experience, then blacked out. 

Later that morning they learned that a crop circle had appeared nearby. The whole crew went to the site together, referred to as the Chute Causeway formation. She describes standing in that circle as one of the most profoundly mystical experiences of her life.

There is even an owl in this account, read about it HERE.

What wasn't included in either the post or the book was that at the time, my friend was sharing a room in a traditional English Bed and Breakfast with Barbara Lamb. 

Months later she had a hypnotic regression with Barbara to explore this experience, specifically to explore what might have happened the morning she asked to be taken to see a crop circle being formed. I have read a transcription of this hypnosis session, and she describes being on board a small craft and looking down onto what she feels is the same field as where the formation appeared. She also had the strong sense that Barbara was in that craft with her, although she doesn't remember seeing her.

13 Moons formation, August 1994

At the 9:50 time count in the video, Barbara says the date, "In August about 10th or 11th of 1994." In her 2001 book Crop Circles Revealed co-authored by Judith K. Moore, Barbara refers to this design as the "Thirteen Moons." This was an era before the online cataloging of circles, so there isn't much about this design. The dates of this formation vary; one source says August 14, and the only other one I could find mentions August 8.

One more odd detail. I first watched the video on Sunday March 5, seemingly minutes after it was posted on YouTube. A long stretch of the audio was out of sync in that initial posting (now corrected) making it a bit jarring to watch. It fixed itself right before Barbara says: "August 10th." So we have an audio sync and cosmic sync side by side!

Audio interview with Barbara Lamb—linked HERE       

Previous posting: August 10th, crop circles and owls—linked HERE

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