very interesting indeed.

but i though that consoles are a thing of the past, and dead? that’s what you told me nVidia… so how is it?

tegra x1 or x2? Please be the x2!

Wow neat source on that bro.

Looks interesting enough. I hope it gets good software support.

bruuuk

So this is why nVidia decided to cancel the Shield Tablet 2. Any info on what processor you guys put in it? The new Pascal TX1?

So my guess is a custom android OS.

This is pure and crystal clear awesomeNess..

Or Ios. Apple and Nintendo have some kind of releationship.

More specs, please

what is perfect tegra is BS

So whats the battery life going to be?

How fast it is compared to a Nvidia GeForce GTX 980M?

That’s why Shield Tablet 2 is cancelled and there is zero info about future of Shield Portable an Android TV. Buisness is buisness, I guess. Anyway, we need more specs of this.

HOLY CRAP. Yeah, um, getting this.

Can’t wait! Day One purchase for sure. RIP Wii U

I’m glad it’s Nvidia, I have always preferred their cards.

Yes. Tegra X1 is 2 years old.

The old Tegra X1 supports 1080p/60 in games.
X1 also supports 4K/60 on video.

Switch is using “X2” which is alot better.

Wow, all the rumors about this thing were true! Glad they were. So excited.

Nice 🙂 It’s all about the games after all, but knowing NVidia is inside makes me less worried about graphical fidelity 🙂

Definitely more powerful than a PS3 and Xbox 360 combined if it’s able to run Skyrim remastered on it. I’d say the screen is 720p and the games will be native 720p, some 1080p of course. 720p will allow for better performance over 1080p.

and RIP 3ds

3DS is pretty safe as long as the screen is so big

That doesnt look like Skyrim Remastered it looks like Vanilla and with terrible frame-rate

POWAH!? IT GOT POWAH!!!???

Not really considering it’s primarily a handheld device..

GPU would be faster but not sure about CPU

Quite a ways behind, it’s a handheld device.

Does it say that?

Android TV can’t do PS3

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f33ce4c6bbbf9af5725ec164e9bbc4fa87d66be8783b31879cf7c77c6e055d20.png

Looks like a decent line up… lets hope they don’t drop like everyone did on wiiu

Yes can we get a screen resolution and a comparable processor power please? Really nice product. Need to know more. Thanks

How can you tell?

Nice Nintendo caught up to ps3 graphical power finally.

It’s a portable, forget about any sort of sli integration. Until more details are announced you’re probably looking at a tegra x1 with some custom updates.

Awesome.

Some people may feel offended but… Ouya was ahead of its time with the concept of microconsole (and using a mobile GPU for home gaming) and clearly inspired Nintendo. I was a big fan of its concept, but it failed for other reasons. People wre mocking it for lack of power but they should have been mocking it for content and the ecosystem, not the chip.

Smart marketing and good form factor ideas can make a giant difference and Nintendo just proved it. If you had told people a few years ago that the next nintendo console will be a microconsole with newer Ouya’s chip they would have called you crazy or trolling.

I don´t care about specs, really. If it´s similar to the PS4 (probably is) then it´s more than enough.
What really matter are the game library. If it gets lots of Jrpgs and action games, then count me in at the line on the launch day

Perfect console for the casuals again.

sweeeeeeeettttttttttttttt!!!!!. but we need more spec, please!!!!!!!!!!!!

New tech is always exciting, even when it doesn’t involve MIND MELTING VISUALS! at least for me, so im quite interested; Always mindblowing to notice how much actual time and effort goes into these things :O
cheers!

You can tell all that from a short trailer, which probably doesn’t even show the real video on the screen?

From what i heard its in par with the pro, the guys from gameblog were saying that. Its 900p on the portable screen an 1080 60 frames on the console. thats why they went with Nvidia chipset. they believe it out puts at 4k with playback but not games thats locked at 1080 60 frames.

I don’t care if it does 4k but it has to do 1080p… but that is still video… I’m more concerned with CPU power and RAM… if its lacking in either let alone GPU… its going to hinder any real game development to be done with it… If the Base was a bit bigger that would tell me it has a 2ndary APU that is more powerful and can be air cooled… that would have been awesome… think of it like having a Laptop with a low/mid range APU… and you can plug a HIGH end APU via USB C… I was hoping that was the direction they were going to go… but I guess now 🙁

They’re selling it as a home console

It’s 720p. Upscaled 1080p when docked probably.

It will probably run in a low-power mode for 720P portable gaming and a high-power mode for 1080P console gaming. There’s no need to go beyond the NS screen’s probable resolution when on-the-go.

Someone else said it was the X2

That wasn’t Witcher. It was Skyrim. A last gen game. Of course it can run on it. Just based on the trailer I could tell this thing wouldn’t be powerful considering Zelda looked exactly the same and all the games they showed, including 3D Mario didn’t wow me in anyway.

Buit again, Wii U level specs on a handheld? That’s great.

It’s not primarily anything, that’s the selling point. You can play it however you want.

Seriously… Framerate on a video that was revealed on youtube… sit down somewhere man hahahaha

And still we have car company that use Ios system as entertainment device.
We have computer company that mod apple computer with apple approve, do not confuse with hackintosh.
I think there was a reason Nintendo was on Apple presentation last month.
One of advantage for using swift and apple Ios is security and the ease of programming in swift.

not really, TLOU is beyond what Wii U can do

It will probably switch between low-power and high-power modes.

The official website literally says “The new home gaming system”
Still the whole point is, it can be whatever you want.

PS4 has no framerate issues when the games are coded properly

yep, the video was recorded in 60 fps.
It’s not hard to see a game running in 20 fps.

Nvidia + Nintendo? Wow Awsome!

Killing Floor 2 Online on the go and I will sell you my kidney.

Let me save some money prior March! Very impressive Nintendo!

It’s a new gameboy designed to play Super Mario and Pokemons it’s fine.

This console not reach anyway the same power, and with 840gflops in less you will see surely the difference.

Uh yes they would, as mobile technology has advanced quite far

Custom tegra would mean better than x1. Which would put it around xbox 1probably. Although maybe not quite as powerful. If there is additional processing in the dock then we’re absolutely laughing all the way to 3rd party support across the board. Remember the portable will need to render only at 720p possibly so less work. Nice work team!!

3rd party games won’t be anymore on the game after 1 year or so. Probably a weak system. Just like the Wii U.

A must buy for me even if i just play zelda at work

come on, NX wasn’t a thing when microsoft/sony were prototyping for ps4/xb1

yeah but same is with ps4/xb1, they use a notebook cpu so it’s still in the mobile area, i mean the weakest current gen pc gpu destroys ps4/xb1’s gpus

“weakest current gen PC GPU destroys PS4 GPU” BS

The screen looks like in 900p, and 1080p on tv

This says it all: “The high-efficiency scalable processor includes an NVIDIA GPU based on the same architecture as the world’s top-performing GeForce gaming graphics cards”

It’ll run in lower power mode for mobile gaming at 720p, and scaled up for home use on a 1080p screen. The base may act as a active cooling station as well to allow for higher clocks speeds.

The website says what will enable them to set the price point they want. They’re not going to market it as a portable system if they expect to sell it $300+…

Shut up and take my money.

Dislike your comment cause you said, ” It was Skyrim. A last gen game.”

HAVEN’T YOU HEARD!?!?! SKYRIM IS GETTING A REMAKE. Which means, it’s THIS Gen.

You’re an idiot if you think that. Most of the Wii U games was 1080×30. A lot of there games was 1080×60. If it gets downscaled, it be 1080×30.

When was there a console running 20fps?

Do you even know what you’re talking about?

I want to know how powerful it is.
If it’s as much as an XBO, GET MY F*****G MONEY NINTENDO!

Sure it can. Doesn’t mean it would run well.

im less worried about RES and more worried about if it can RUN advanced games that have Multiple objects and effects rendering on screen… and will it supports MODs… IMO that isn’t Skyrim remastered unless it supports MODS

You sure about that? XOne and PS4 had 5,400rpm drives when the Wii U had Flash Storage.

If they’re saving battery consumption, this would be Flash Storage as well.

it won’t be 2 teraflops lol

i’m talking about doing it and running well. Android TV’s processor is far inferior to the PS3’s CELL

And so it will be a fail!

Storage has nothing to do with GPU/CPU power

Bravo Nvidia :). This is by far the most ambitious console I’ve never seen and seeing Nvidia working on it is GOOD NEWS.

uh, what? NX been in prototype since Wii U came out. Nintendo says, every time they release a new console.. they’re already on the drawing board for a new one.

technically PS3 was their most ambitious

I suspect 720p as well. 480p is the Wii U GamePad Resolution. If it’s anymore than 720p.. battery consumption be an issue.

Yes it wil. Take the failed Wii U as an example, third party game devs didn’t care about it anymore after 1 year or so. Weak system. So will be the this system. Weak asf console.

I’m actually more interested to see the new Pro Controller. Not this Sega Saturn type.

TASTY!

please say two

Time to buy glasses riccy!

Probably won’t be THAT powerful, but it might even hit 1080p60 if the GPU is truly polaris based

ya’ll MotherF@#$%^& calling it weak are amd fan boys for real. yah think nvidia is WEAK? gtfoh !

a 3rd..

No.

That’s actually really cool! I’ve avoided Nintendo in the past due to lack of graphics performance even though the games are cool, but with the small form factor of this new console, plus the higher graphics options, I am looking forward to plugging it into my monitor.

For a console of 2017, at least a rock solid 1080p/60fps on TV.

You think a hand-held, battery powered device is going to be more powerful than full-size, mains powered consoles? Really?

Yeah because Skyrim Remastered is such a technological wonder which Means its twice the power of last gen… Seriously?

It’s not “primarily” a handheld device, since they still have the 3DS still growing strong.

And they already said that they’re not killing it or replacing it.

yeah no. It’s definitely not going to hit 2tflops. ALTHOUGH, if that polaris GPU is truly custom it’s possible that they may have made it very beefy. Still not going to be 2tflops though lol

Gameboy died. :

I think that it’s possible with a well-made custom SoC.

Like WiiU LOL

Waste of money.

Uhm, Nintendo Switch uses Nvidia GPU

still need to see the specs before i’m sold. and also a good games launch lineup.

It’s not even more powerfull then the Standard Xbone…

Good, so double fail.

Caught in a landslide, no escape from reality.

Not true, technically. The GCN was a powerhouse.

Is this Tegra X1 tablet revamp?

No, 720p

YAH IT GOT DA POWAH!!! <3

You’ve been on this comment section quite a lot. Commenting the same bs. We get it. You don’t like it. Move on.

there’s tons of 60fps PS1/2/3/4/Pro, Xbox, PC, Nintendo Wii, whatever games. As we both said, just depends on what’s rendering.

Less powerfull then Xbone Triple fail!

IT’S THE GAMES BRUH. NINTENDO MAKES GREAT GAMES

In portable mode, no. The question is console mode, when it’s not running on the battery.

1080p60 doesn’t mean anything. If you’re running an NES game even a smartwatch can play it 1080p60 -.-”
What’s important is GAMES, so what’s important is that Nintendo is not left alone again, but to do that the Tegra chip must be at least close in power to an XBO, so the porting is easy and any multiplatform game gets the Switch version we deserve.
Mind you, the dock could easily have a fan for heat dissipation, which could increase the top performances by a factor of 2 without any need for additional hardware, so getting the same games at 1080p60 when docked and 720p30 when playing mobile is likely, but the real question is will those games be the same a PS4 can play?

It’s also not necessary in portable mode with that low resolution, but how have you said, the most important thing it’s the console mode.

yet this feels more like its built around the Handheld market…

There may be all low-level optimizations you want, but the videogame market is going in wrong way because the developers do not care to do their job well (which I avoided writing before).

I NEED

Yeah my bad I got it mixed up with Pascal in several comments. I meant Pascal (that’s the latest right?). Both start with P and whatnot…

huh… i like that is power by nvidia tech. but i like way the wii u’s gamepad and pro controller joystick are on top, more comfortable, hopefully it’s backward compatible with wii u’s hardware and we could gamestream on it. i guess my wii u pro controller going to be used on wii u and pc and android (shield tablet k1) with a 3rd party adapter that supports xinput and dinput. nintendo switch, why codename sound better than the final name?

It better be at least 6. Shouldn’t be that hard really.

Actually they do. Load times of an Application, and go read so many Articles of how a game feels different between different Storage speeds.

So many questions…

Docking station is just to connect to TV and Charge or does it actually improve performance with external gfx?

judging by the graphics we saw as well as some of the ports that have been confirmed, I’d assume it’s an X2.

ugh so many questions…1080? 720?… when can i pre-order the console? when do they reveal the launch games? i hope the rumor of having news BOTH this week and the next week are true… SO MANY QUESTIONS LOL

Open your eyes, look up to the skies and see. I’m just a poor boy, I need no sympathy.

Hopefully 3DS’ soul will be transferred via EYWA to Nintendo Switch lolz.

I wonder how Nintendo will make the transition over Wii U with AMD GPU to Switch with an Nvidia GPU. Maybe it won’t be a retrocompatible console. You will have to acquire games by virtual store or SD cards which is very different from the DVD used by Wii U.

I don’t want modest… I want MAXED SETTINGS 1080p and Modest 4k…. and IDK where you have been… but even the shield with TX1 had to water down HL2 and DoomBFG to run at 1080p I don’t want a water down version. and I’m not just talking about graphics… I’m talking about the amount of simulations and effects that can be ran at any given moment… Stuff that we take for granted on PC and XB1 and PS4 that Mobile gamers know really nothing about… Now when I look at this… I see this as a Vita Killer… I see this as a Awesome handheld device that lets me dock at home… but this doesn’t come off as a console. now if the rumors are true for that PAID extra expansion unit… then Sure that will do… but being a step behind X1 and PS4 is costing them too much…

Nvidia GTX 1050 which is the weakest of current gen Nvidia GPUs family, totally destroys both PS4 and Xbox One GPUs.

Because I’m easy come, easy go. A little high, little low.

and I’m fine with that… but still feels like its missing something to be a HOME CONSOLE… a dock doesn’t make it a home console.. if that was the case then my PSP was a home console… we all know how much that handheld was not… I am hoping the Expansion rumor is true… then maybe it will fill in what ever blank I can figure out is missing…

I’m hoping its a 1060 in disguise lol because that would put it at High 1080p and mid/low end 4k capable

<3

No, it is not, the Wii U was faster than both and this console should be slightly faster than it, but well below the Xbone and PS4.

Well it certainly won’t be in handheld mode. I’m guessing it will be around 1 TFLOP in console mode.

The issue is that it was nearly impossible to reach that power as it was inefficient and to complex to develop for.

Without any Nintendo 1st party titles. I’d rather have my PC for PC games and a console or two for console games then tool around with a Shield

Technical stats or GTFO

Don’t do drugs kids.

If you’re looking for Graphics ..why do you look for consoles in general? This is Nintendo. And when it comes to gaming (not graphics) they have never disappointed me.

you gave me a no HDMI on the Wii deja vu

I rather wonder if it will be stable on the Switch. Bethsdas Open World games have a tendency to crash on consoles as soon as a certain save size is reached (keeping up with all world objects). Making this possible on a portable console is a great feat in my eyes.

No, the specs are not similar to the PS4. It could be slightly more powerful than the Wii U or on par with it. The PS4 and Xbox One are on a totally different level of hardware specs compared to the Switch.

to me……

Obviously not made to be the most powerful desktop console out there, but for a handheld this looks amazing if the leaked specs are correct. I think people are expecting the wrong things for this, imagine what the next Monster Hunter could look like :O

That controller looks hideous and uncomfortable to use. I hope the pro controller comes with it.

the wii u was already more powerful than both of those by at least a factor of 2.

it’s gotta be more powerful

Good now you just need some games.

The Tegra X1 is already at 1 teraflop of performance.
This being Pascal and a custom SoC, 1-1.5 Tflops is a more reasonable estimate.

The Wii u is around 0.4 Tflops while the original XBone is 1.1 Tflops and the Og Ps4 is at 1.8 Tflops.

So it’ll be perfectly capable of matching the PS4 and Xbox One in terms of power.

I´m ok with that. Since the Wii Nintendo didn´t mean to compete for power and that doesn´t seem the case again. It´s all about different gaming experiences and this time it seems they nailed it.

the screen is probably 900p by the rumors

normally simulated presents as better than real life performance, not worse. plus the frame rates looks fine when docked so the dock probably has some extra hardware for better performance. undocked probably isnt intended to play home console titles and is really intended for lighter gaming like pokemon games for example. thats not to say it CANT play those bigger games on the go, just not as well.

It doesn’t specifically say “Skyrim Remastered”. I would like to see it confirmed.

Where is that confirmed?

You are ASSuming. I want it to be true too but that is after all a small tablet that this is played on and nothing has given any official specs.

I wonder what about retrocompatibility; Wii U has DVD media, 3DXL had cartridges. This has carts only. I guess if there will be a form of downloadable content for whom purchased Wii U games until now. Of course I mean: IF this console is going to offer any retrocompatibility, at all.

you guys realize Nintendo filed a patented for some sort of suplimental computing thingamabob.. It’s very possible that the dock has additional CPU,GPU or APU that runs the games in higher res when in “home” mode. Skyrim remastered at 1080p 60FPS at home.. 720p on the go. I’m ok with that 🙂

I think you are right. Look at how small the switch is as a tablet. This is the exact same power at home as mobile and I’m not seeing it being as powerful as the PS4. I’d say just slightly more powerful than WiiU but at least it will have some 3rd party support this time.

I WANT TOO PRE ODER NOW

the dock probably holds a full console quality install version of most of the home console quality games while the sd card looking cartridge probably holds the mobile version. that being said, the frame rates when its not docked while running zelda seem kinda choppy.

You seem to be assuming that all Devs are going to be jumping over to focus on PS4 Pro and Scorpio. That definitely isn’t the case. I’m a fan of hardware upgrades, but you can see from the small list of supported games on the PS4 Pro that Devs aren’t flocking to it. The majority of consumers own the original PS4 and Xbox One consoles, so if its on par with those, things should go well.

a 1070 rapes the ps4 gpu several laps around it dumbass

But if Switch is using a ARM processor it can only stream skyrim from your computer

Looking at that list yea your right tons….Rolls eyes. sounds like the Wii U all over again. Thats how it started at launch there were a bunch of third party ported games. Then after 2013….dead.

We’ll wait and see. The things im interested in are the exclusives Nintendo will have that are not mario. They are funding beyond good and evil 2 i believe. Which will make me unfortunately buy the console.

What an unusual resolution to use. I’ve heard of the standards 720p and 1080p, but never 900p.

Switch is probably rocking a souped-up version of Tegra X1, not K1. If it’s running Skyrim Remastered, there’s no way it’s running on a K1.

Seriously I think the Wii U had good graphics on it’s Mario games like Mario 3D world and MK8. Bump up the res to at least 1080p on TV and a sub 1080P on the go. I Love the Idea of not be thederd to the TV, my gaming pc stream PC games to my phone over internet, the Ps4 does the same, however this solution does Not requier a high LTE connection to work and my phones Data plan won’t run out. I belive in this system.

Since the K1 CPU is ARM based (same as Android), they’ll release a smaller version of it later to replace the 3DS. If they continue to release hardware that is.

That’s the exact same scenario with the Wii U. Then, right before release, 3rd parties wont make future games for Switch because it’s “weak”, “gimmicky” and “has no games”…

Closer to 2 TFLOP, more likely, but not more.

At the end of the video they show Betheseda copyright. Betheseda own the elder scrolls ip, the latest being skyrim remastered.

Kinda depends. Wii U will run Breath of the Wild at 720p/30fps, and it probably only hits around 700 GFLOPs. All the Switch has to do is hit 1080p on Breath of the Wild and that’ll be it, and probably doesn’t need to hit XB1/PS4 spec to hit.

The first section featured BoTW, but another section featured Skyrim.

if they want to see proper 3rd party support, they need to show the console has extra headroom past what its launch titles need to run smoothly. just giving it enough to run BOTW at 1080p is a bit short sighted. not to mention with the ps4 pro coming out and this being rumored to be around $399, it need comparable to ps4 level specs to make it.

its not even a handheld console its a home console that can become a handheld so its the secondary part home console is the primary part

true, but it wouldnt be the first time nintendo put additional hardware to run games in peripherals separate from the console itself. i would not complain if they added some additional hardware to the dock. id actually welcome it for future proofing. or at least plans to release a dock that DID have extra power in the dock as an addon.

The point is those systems all play the same games. If the Switch can’t keep up with the rest then the devs won’t bother porting the games over and people won’t by a weaker version of the game. It’s the same thing that happened to the WiiU and I owed that system first. It just became a 1st party system after a couple years and the releases were so spread apart it wasn’t worth holding on to.

There’s another meat of the console. that’s just the docking station that connects to a more power piece of hardware.

If the GamePad is 720P (as I believe it is), there’s no need to waste processing power generating 1080P. The chipset could go to a lower power mode to save on battery life. It would be similar to how the iPhone 7 CPU has 4 cores: 2 standard and 2 low-power. The device can switch between the cores as needed. No offloading to the NS dock would be needed for this.

Just hope the bring Pokémon to switch

My personal guess is that the Switch will run a modified X1, with double the X1’s standard EUs.

Switch will definitely be “underpowered” compared to PS4 Pro and XBox Scorpio, but will probably hit parity with PS4 and Xbox One. But what matters for looks is more than just MOAR GIGAFLOPS, it’s art direction. Super Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime are both played in 480p and yet are very pretty games. MarioKart 8 is the best looking racer, and that’s comparing against games with super realistic graphics. Breath of the Wild is the most gorgeous game I’ve ever seen, and the Wii U can only render it in 720p.

And what matters the most for games is how fun they are. Improving the look can add to the fun, but only up to a certain point. Likewise, taking away from the resolution and texture detail doesn’t really take away from the fun until it hits a certain point.

30fps is pathetic.
I would much rather have 720p at 60hz.

No TFLOP it’s cart base.

They said it’s a custom Tegra it’s PS4 power.

you need a wifi connection to play your PC games though

I’m interested in this. I really hope it’s tegra x2 ( Parker ?) and it’s close or better then PS4. If less then 1.5 Tflops. Doubt any game company will bother with it and just make games for Sony and Microsoft consoles. But there already huge list ppl onboard. I also hope it using vulkan API, or custom version of it maybe. If it’s vulkan API and more 1.5 tflops of performance. This could be game changer for all of us. More gaming on vulkan for PC is win for us all. I’m so glad this isn’t using crapy AMD Apu. Come on and gives some spec please Nintendo and Nvidia. Please make our dreams come true. 2.0 + Tflops system would be epic when on the docking station with 1080p/60 fps. 720p mobile is fine. If true. Take my money lol.
Wonder if ark will come to NX/Switch now ? Lol. Though already play/run my own ark server and play on i7 3770k/ gta 980TI Sc.

The problem with the PS3’s CELL architecture was that it was heterogeneous and therefore weird for developers to work with. Ideally it would be utilized in a pipeline architecture — one of the CPUs optimized for processing input (i.e. a DSP) and feeding information to a more standard OOO core to crunch the game engine and AI, which would then feed info to a core optimized for feeding info between memory and a GPU.

Unfortunately until the end of the PS3’s lifetime, developers didn’t really get how to make use of it. They just hit “compile” and the code the compiler spat out was good for a 1-4 core homogeneous processor, which would mean it runs fine on the XBOX 360 (which had such a processor) but would run slow on the CELL.

(Oh, and no, the CELL was not a SoC; it did not have the GPU integrated.)

They’re not bottlenecked by the CPUs, they’re limited by the GPUs, which are matched / slightly outclassed by a mid-range nVidia Maxwell GPU like a GTX 750.

Maxwell or Pascal?

With that said: does it stream Steam???? Does it at least do nVidia GameStream? Does Nintendo even support that? I would frankly enjoy Nintendo opening up a bit and allow the PC crowd in. That would be, um, *HUGE*.

Not true. The massive bulk of the limitation is in the GPU, which nVidia’s ARM cores are capable of feeding a pretty hefty GPU quite well.

doesn’t seem worth it to me but i’m not a gamer

It has been years since I have played a Nintendo game. March can’t get here soon enough

Watch video uploaded to youtube.
Judge gameplay shown on the screen of a device through the screen of my device.
Determine resolution and frame rate are bad

Seems legit

Nintendo is a master of making a game engine run smoothly, especially on underpowered hardware. The Wii had a lot of titles that looked on par with PS3 graphics despite only outputting at 480p. The Wii U has some of the best looking games out there despite being the most underpowered console.

I’d hope they’d EYWA the Wii U’s soul to the Switch, because the Wii U had some of the best games in spite of its being underpowered. But at least we’ve got a glimpse of some of the upcoming games, and they include a MarioKart title that looks an awful lot like 8, and a Splatoon title.

This is the best switch since the switch Joe made Tito get to beat Michael.

Yeah, given the market for consoles it would make a lot of sense for the dock to have an extra GPU in there rather than just being a charger with ports and cards. That way they wouldn’t have to develop a new platform to push the specs higher.

Every time Nintendo release a system there’s TONS of hand wringing over specs ???

hopefully there is a setting to switch between modes (no pun intended)
some games i prefer 60fps for better reaction times, but other games i’d rather have the visuals if reactions are less of a necessity

The horsepower is there probably. Wouldn’t bethesda have to completely remake skyrim to make it work on a ARM based CPU?

PS4 Pro – 4.2 TFLOPS
XBox Scorpio – 6 TFLOPS

Nintendo isn’t trying to compete with them directly. It really only needs ~1.5 TFLOPS to get viable 3rd party support, and Nintendo hits way above their weight class when it comes to delivering fantastic looking games.

The GCN was also a flop.

I’d guess that part of it is that although the hardware was powerful, the game size limitation really put the squeeze on 3rd-party development. The cute little mini-discs couldn’t hold nearly as big of games.

Probably since there is a fan, the Nintendo switch will have 2 modes 1 portable and 1 home console, when docked at home you will have unlimited energy and receive higher clocks and in portable it will lower the clock speed and TDP. Will be cool to see how much a difference there is between the “two modes”.

It’s probably twice as efficient and effective as the competition’s AMD-based hardware, so there should be no big performance concerns, not nearly as much as traditionally for Nintendo.

Nice. Is PC also receiving all this features like new API’s and all that struggle to exploit the best out of our VGA’s?

It’d be neat if (and here’s me being a hopeful idiot) the handheld contained a 1050-equivalent GPU and the dock had a supplementary GPU that could be upgraded in the future.

But does it have a headphone jack :v?

And about the Wii U when they announced their latest console. As a matter of fact they said that every time something new from them was announced 🙂

nintendo shield !

that is another thing I would like to see… I remember the rumor of a expansion module… a upgraded DOCK with its own APU could do it…

Nvidia needs to do some better marketing then, “GameStream™ technology allows you to bring your SHIELD on the go and still access your PC’s games through a Wi-Fi connection.” Sounds interesting I’ll look more into that. Good choice of games btw.

To add to what you say, Nvidia requires less power to play the games at the exact same level as an AMD card or even at a higher quality level.

Is it possible that the hub may act as a sort of performance amplifier? It could allow for upscaled images on higher resolution screens, and allow for smooth 1080p gameplay.
We don’t know anything at his point, so it’s hard to say.

AMD Mobile…ROFLing!!!

One can hope……Nintendo is still in the stone age when it comes to their customers accounts. Not ragging on Nintendo, I own a 3ds and a Wii u and will be buying a Switch, but they really need to allow cross-buy to be a thing. I will not buy Super Mario 3 for the upteenth time….

He was referring to the Shield. You need Wifi to stream PC games to the Shield.

Unfortunately the Vita didn’t even get 1st party support from Sony… They quickly shifted gears to the PS4 as soon as they saw the opportunity to shoot down the Xbone.

At least we know that Nintendo will support their console till the day it dies, as we’ve seen with the Wii U…

As rumors said, you have tag with Nintendo…… ammm, let’s see how NS, XB1, Nvidia and AMD make game industy rise again.

I hope so, it makes a lot of sense. That would mean they did actually use “industry leading chips”

Surprised Nintendo went to nvidia. All their previous hardware has been done in-house, as I recall.

Go buy some iphone and dont talk about things you dont understands.

They used to get their gpus from ATI/AMD and processors were power pc.

Shut up and take my money

I heard it’s more powerful than the Xbox One but closer to the PS4 plus the SCD still hasn’t been talked about yet. It may push pass the PS4 and maybe closer to the PS4 Pro

Agreed. Not to mention how many PCs are out there. If devs want to get their games sold, they usually target as many platforms as they can, simultaneously, as long as targeting the platform won’t hamper development.

The Wii U’s biggest problem with 3rd party development wasn’t simply that it was underpowered, it was that development for it was hard. There was the second screen — a touch screen — plus gyro, camera, microphone, speakers, and the Wii controllers that had to be dealt with. Or, you know, just ignored and all multiplayer aspects discarded. And to top it off, the development environment was really sucky. No vendor support for Unreal Engine (the most popular game development engine) or most of the other popular engines. Debugging was horrible — minutes at a time to compile, without preservation of local variables.

Nintendo has since gotten a lot better. While the Wii U doesn’t *officially* support Unreal 4, they’ve taken considerable steps. They officially support Unity, and have really good software development tools — and a great policy for independent publishers. Unfortunately that didn’t happen in time for the Wii U to be a success. From what I’m hearing, though, developing for the Switch is really good.

“However games built from the ground up for the Wii U would look better than any PS3 title”
That’s because art direction is more important for looks than graphics capabilities. 😀

Everything papacheeks said aside, there’s a big difference here. Last Gen and this Gen have a much smaller gulf than 6th Gen and Last Gen. Even if the Switch is 2 or 3x as powerful as Wii U, it’s still much closer to current gen consoles.

its gonna be stronger then ps4 pro maybe its gonna up res and the supplemental computing device too

if its a next gen system its gonna pass ps4

I’ve read anywhere from ~0.4TFLOPS to ~0.7TFLOPS.

Agreed

from what ive noticed theres a pattern power depends on order of console release so itll be weaker then sscorpio stronger then pro

I already have one and they offer better and more profitable games than anything Nintendo has released in the past 10 years.

It already has a traditional controller that’s also detachable…wtf???

Mario galaxy

this isn’t the same nintendo

Not really, no. The work would be to add an ARM compiler to their game engine (the Creation Engine), which they already did in order to make a few mobile games.

MAN put some persona, some final fantasy on there.. some skyrim, shin megami, pokemon, monster hunter, dragon quest cd projeckt n all that and ill be your best friend lmao

I mean, if anyone they copied MadCatz’s Gameboy peripherals from the late 80’s.

TRUMP 2016

yes, but my point was that it takes alot to bottleneck a gpu. the fear of bottlenecking in hardware is way more prevalent than it needs to be. if anything, we need to worry about bottlenecking ram. we barely even utilize ddr5 to its fullest extent and people keep talking about how its a disappointment consoles arent using HBM2 or ddr5x!

…and baby, you got yourself a stew goin’!

The N64 expansion pack is the first thing that comes to mind on that front. But then you go back further and find they’ve been doing it a lot longer. For instance, in some SNES cartridges you’ll find additional hardware, such as Super Star Fox having a vector graphics accelerator in the cartridge, and some NES games with better sound than 8-bit beeps having DSPs in the cartridges.

He’s obviously joking.

If only it had a controller built in on either side of the screen. Damn,

I don’t need to be lugging around a kindle-sized controller.

Sarcasm i hope lol

Not according to all sales in every country. The psx is dead bro.

me too i stopped by gamestop and called amazon but no one has it yet for pre order

hahahahahaha wait your serious?

So this: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dc79fe7d73dd1d7e4d9b9f286fec42dec14229766e766156e009c224c7685427.jpg

Totally on par with these:

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/04b1a2142e01cefd826ccc69eace1fe7d60dd8fcdd8dcd5638ea3fa0cda324f9.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/baf8d3e89fabc2bf43264adb7c7c5dd92958059a3e92508467d13e33fb5ef8d7.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e70106c2b3d6d252a571ea66ac9b66802fd56ed681b97e49da9a04841ef01ac2.png

Galaxy looked great, and that comes down to design and polygon count of the characters. But lighting, animation with HD textures along with even higher polygon count is night and day.

I think you need to take off your nostalgia goggles and see how wii actually looked on a regular hdtv running in composite even in component.

The pic I put up is not representative of how that game looked back then on tv’s from 2008 or above.

Last of us, ratchet and clank still hold up well even on newer tv sets. Super mario outside of dolphin emulator do not.

I mean its not unheard of Nvidia got quite a few games over to Android(Half life, Borderlands 2, ect) there was just not much motivation for publishers to do it as the games only sold like 2000 copies on android. With Nintendo behind it…It could very well be a different story.

Well in their consoles. Their handhelds were using ARM-based SoCs that were made in house if I recall, until now it seems.

if people are expecting competitive performance, they need to temper their expectations for price. you are paying extra for portability which makes things more expensive to begin with. not to mention its new hardware which hasnt had its manufacturing process streamlined yet which is a huge factor in reducing price. ive noticed alot this generation that people have been acting rather spoiled when it comes to price. whining that it should be cheaper with no consideration as to the actual value. you get what you pay for. you wanna pay 250 then youll be getting sub par performance and the console still wont make it on the market. pay more and at least you get competitive performance and the price will go down later on. no way they are releasing a portable console on par with ps4 or xbone at a launch price of less than 399. thats how much the ps4 launched for, the xbone launched for 100 more. i think thats reasonable for what we are getting. if the Switch had released at the same time as the other two nobody would be complaining about price and i dont think performance of the hardware should have to suffer for it.

I’m wondering if NVIDIA and Nintendo worked out a deal to run NVIDIA GameStream on this. Cause if that’s on the feature set you may see a much hotter seller. Nintendo 1st party titles, with the option to couch play your PC game library, with a ‘get up and go’ tablet/mobile ability… yes please.

True but ‘leaving the area’ gets a bit more nebulous in an open world game. Plus the fact grass is destructible is not really the impressive part, it’s the way fire spreads and even creates updraft.

It’s hard to tell I’ve seen some really dumb comments.

Is the GPU in the tablet or the dock?

And a PC blows away the Potatostation. Are there Nintendo games on Potatostation? no.

Make Pepe Great Again!!!

“The pro controller doesn’t come with the console
Nintendo is a laughing stock.”

Later..

“I don’t need to be carrying around a kindle-sized controller.”

SO are you going to carry around the pro controller instead? I am confused…

398€ preorder price on Greece

Or I can get the switch which will at the very least have a ton of good first party non DRM non micro transaction bs and that will be supported by its company.

Edit – Some other sites are reporting that it’s Skyrim Remastered.

I stand corrected.

And water is wet, lol.

Listen, take my advice, if you played Doom back in the 90’s, don’t play the new Doom. It’s the same “jump around and shoot stuff” as the original!

#DontDoDrugsKids

Ewww, get your filthy pleb Team Red out of here….

#TeamGreen
#HarambeWasWIthNVidia

Haha. Good point!

He’s right, except for the usually stellar zelda, and mario games, this system will be like a wii or wii U. No games.

#NeverForgetMay28th2016

I bought the system for my sons (ages 10 and 11 at the time) but the four year old got her hands on it when one walked away from it to play a game on the PC.

I hope you are wrong, but I haven’t seen the specs on this yet either.

It never ceases to amaze me how often console gamers will say “graphics dont matter its all about gameplay” yet make stupid comments like this all the time.

you can get e mail conformation from Amazon for when the pre orders start

Well neogaf just debunked the dock having extra processing just now.

Ah kk, I see

Well is it maxwell or pascall, this will affect OTG battery life termenduly

Graphics are everything. You wouldn’t play Super Mario Bros. if it had stick figures.

pascal

3DS is reaching the end of it’s life cycle though.
It will be 6 years old by the time Switch releases.

Agreed. Nintendo miscalculated with the Wii that HD wouldn’t take off, or wouldn’t take off as quickly as it did. But here, 4k content has yet to really take off no matter how far the prices of 4k TVs has fallen. So if it’s in the same ballpark as the XB1/PS4 with the added ability to take the games on the go, it’ll be fine.

Gogo Nvidia ! Please prove to the world that you can fit a PS4 into a tablet ! I believe ! #NintendoSwitch

60fps should be a target, always. 30fps feels like slogging through mud.

And with you being able to take the controller part off you wouldn’t have to replace the whole thing if it breaks, which would make replacing parts somewhat cheaper. Another thing is they could release new controller skins and colors, like what they did with the wii remote.

Give me some love pleas, give me some specs boys.

tablet. It’s been debunked by neogaf. All the dock does is charge the tablet and output to your tv.

Actually NX is pretty much confirmed to have a modified version of the Tegra 2, Which is in fact on par with the ps4 in terms of gpu strength, the cpu doesn’t really matter as long as it doesn’t bottleneck the gpu.

Wii or WiiU, no games???
Systems premiering the Metroid Primes, Wii Sports and virtually the entire fitness genre, Splatoon, Pikmin games, sporting some solid grade Platinum games exclusively, Art Atelier draw/paint training, Lego City Undercover (easily one of the best of all the Lego games and exclusive), the Xenoblade games, Mirage Sessions FE#, Bit Trips, Smash Bro’s games, Pokken Tournament, Star Foxes…………..

Sort of. There was a sort of area transition when approaching one of the major islands as it switched from the low detail to complete version of it. Which, I suppose, could be seen as preferable to the hitch that usually occurs when approaching an open-air city in Skyrim.

Thing about PS4’s $400 launch price is that the PS4 launched with that performance level in 2013 — a performance level that I can match with a PC I can build for $300 now, and that’s without having the benefit of bulk purchasing to push the component cost down.

Yeah, people are acting “spoiled” when it comes to price, but when you do your marketing you either charge the same price as everyone else and convince them they’re getting something much better, or you price it to a level where you think everyone will buy it.

The “Deplorable” will go away after the election and return to “Dude” like it was before, unless I and everyone with political views in the same ballpark as me is described with a worse word in that time frame.

Meanwhile, this isn’t a political forum, so GTFO out of my bar or I, Greedo, will shoot first instead of you.

I’ve been saying exactly that everywhere else in the thread — Switch will have a performance level in the PS4 ballpark. What they’ll do with it, though, will be spectacular.

The SPEs on the CELL acted similar to graphics processors

Last time i checked, GTX 1070 isn’t the slowest you retarded idiot

The SPEs on the CELL act like graphics processors

Provvide a source where storage is related to CPU/GPU power. Learn to read

Can it run Crysis?

Agree. Nintendo taps a new market if this is included. I would think they would also include some Nintendo games in the Now service when used on the Switch. It’s a win win for Nvidia and Nintendo

did you not see skyrim…. dude…. this could freaking open up to other 3rd party companies……………

Likely slower, pretty poor display, no dual controllers built in, absolutely no Nintendo game titles – totally not the same thing.
Also if Nintendo and Nvidia decided to make it together I guess this could had connected to Nvidia Grid and replaced their Shield product, they could even had gone so far as to let games stream from, in Nvidia´s case because they are always like that, Nvidia PCs to it (maybe even the other way too?)

Anyway, it’s a Nintendo portable with the best screen and processing power ever which also do casual multi-player on the go which is nice 🙂

Lol plebs everywhere, PC +Nintendo+Sony is the way to go.

Honestly for kids there is still such a great benefit, especially for my 10 year old who can just simply take his game play with him when we travel. Beats having to have separate 3DS and home console if combined. The focus on local co-op play is still great for families, nobody capture the magic of 4 player co-op like Nintendo with games like Super Smash Bros Brawl and this console has that local co-op appeal.

were getting to a point where you can’t make games better then they already look their detailed enough and again its a next gen system that makes no sense to be weaker

thats why the other devs are doing ideas or gimmicks too 4k and vr

wii stronger then xbox ps2

wii u stronger then xbox 360 ps3

theres no where else to go but up

hate to be negative but a chipset / device marketed both as a console and a portable will end up being poor at both !

Only time will tell my friend. Also, I’d give it a chance before assuming what it is capable of, considering what they have shown us has not been the finished version of the product.

Coming from a PC gamer with a GTX 1080 FTW SLI setup, I still managed to be hyped about the Nintendo Switch’s reveal. This goes to show that graphics is not the only deciding factor or what dictates how much fun you can get from a product.

And if you still end up not liking it, it’s ok because at least you tried it out. Cheers.

ACTUALLY dmbsht Samsung has almost double the market share of Apple in the mobile market AND Google for that matter. Apple BARELY has tablet market share and decreasing more and more (android still has much higher market share in the tablet space). Camera Market where the heck did you make that one up from lol. Music player market???? Considering Android has a much larger user base I assume you got this wrong as well.

Super Mario 3D World is easily one of the best Mario games ever. They needed that 3rd party support

Watching the trailer where they very quickly picks it up from the “hub” and the screens jumps to the smaller device from the tv. Seeing this I have hard to believe that there could be any sort of SLI/cross fire between the hub and the tablet.

Great idea though, but it would again raise the price and it wouldn’t be the easiest way to develop for.

I believe the graphics will be scale-able.

Apple isn’t a game developer or publisher.

Do you honestly believe Nvidias latest SoC was cheap? Sure there are rumors that Nvidia practically gave it away but still. Remember Nvida shield portable costing 300-350 at launch. And the rest have followed suit except the Shield tablet, premium hardware with the price to accompany it.

Console suffered cause of mainly a shock horror marketing effort by Nintendo. But the games were great. Admit, you wouldn’t know half the games Im talking about, yet you judge them

PS4 making sales of games like The Order and Knack by the millions doesnt show the brightest gaming crowd on their front

They already said that the Nintendo switch is it own eco system and wont be backwards compatible. The games you see have been carefully ported to the new and totally different architecture.

It’s not so much the backwards compatibility that interests me… after all, if you have the games you have the system too right… but the gameplay possibilities of multiscreen

don’t make comments on tech when you have no idea what you’re talking about

the PS4 launched in 2013 with a 2010/11 graphics.. PS4 GPU is basically a cut down variant of the Radeon 7870 and the X Box One is a 7790 right.. I think the price was still too much for ps4 launch for antiquated hardware.

please go kill yourself

Is this using the older Maxwell architecture, or the newer Pascal architecture which is seen in the 1080 and Nvidia Titan X?

Uh, dude. Nvidia didn’t get anywhere near the number of partners Nintendo managed to get on board. They discontinued the Shield line for a reason. Nintendo had the marketing power and the IP to do it. Nvidia never did.

Yeah, it used to be called PSX before the PS2. But I don’t think it was ever officially known by that name, even if all the magazines and stuff from 20 years ago called it that.

KEK

because the most well known version, the ps1 was released.

I wonder if Apple may make more money than Nintendo on game sales too though?

do you mean PSone? I wouldn’t say that is “well known”.

in the trailer, they showed no kids playing with their handheld for the first time ever, only teens, and adults @mike_hearn:disqus

“ever for a Nintendo product” or “the Nintendo portable with the best ..”

I’m relating it to all other Nintendo portables not to all other portable products on the market and in history.

“Camera Market” i think he meant Instagram and the likes….

The shield had a catastrophic hardware failure. Nvidia is not great at mobile, every mobile venture they have tried has failed. Maybe they have figured it out but I doubt it. Denver was a flop when the branch predictors missed and they have never been able to keep thermals or power usage in check. Great for desktop, supercomputing, and laptops, utter crap with mobile.

1- Tegra processor hasn’t changed significantly since the post-recall Shield Tablet.
2- RAM & NVRAM size/heat characteristics haven’t changed significantly since the post-recall Shield Tablet.
3- Mobile screens have not changed significantly since the post-recall Shield Tablet.

Which of these, having not made significant improvements, will be a significant improvement over the Shield Tablet in the Switch?

Proprietary games, sure, I’ll grant you. My point being they could just abandon hardware & focus on good games that play on the tablets people already own.
Controllers, as an owner you know the Shield supports controllers & multiple at that (and if you feel like it, there’s the controller with mount for the tablet, though I admit the Switch’s solution is more elegant).

I don’t think it’s the “same thing”, I think it’s sufficiently equivalent to make people question the merit vs Nintendo following in Atari’s footsteps and doing what they do well – make games.

360 + ps3 is roughly 2.4 TFLOPs (most of that coming from ps3). The desktop GPU RX460 puts out 2.2 TFLOPs. If you think this little handheld is going to be more powerful than the 460 you are nuts. That is not possible with today’s technology.

If it’s arm (it is) then it’s an identical architecture, just a different OS.

Nvidia, you power my gaming computer and now you’ll power my next game console. Thank you for your great products.

Post recall/pre recall Shield Tablets had the same K1 processor. The Switch will have at minimum an X1, possibly an X2 or some hybrid thereof. That’s a big difference in itself. The dev kits for Switch have 4GB ram, the Shield Tablet has 2GB. Plus Nvidia has stated how much they have optimized the software end for the Switch. You have to be in complete denial if you really believe that the two are equal. That would be like saying the original iPad and the iPad Air were the same thing.

To not use an AMD processor in the last 10 years – what a blessing!
Personally I have a Phenom X4 9850 and I could afford something used or not of more or less any kind and it’s a fscking pain but I can’t decide what to get because I want to get the best value.
I so wish I had bought the i7 5820K back in Christmas 2014 and be done with it. Nowadays the USD is almost worth 50% more in Swedish kronor which is my currency 🙁 (Having the money placed in US stocks would had solved that with a gain of about 150% in SEK since then.)

I had a Panasonic HD tube TV that could output 480p, 540p and 1080i. Some Wii games when played on a 480p native TV looks as good as many early PS3 games. Now, overall the PS3 why better graphically, but that wasn’t the point here. Also, if you’re going to cherry pick your picture, here’s one for you of Mario Galaxy 2 on Wii…. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/02e9eb2cde16edbcb5addd65fdaeba66577eb687822e68eeb0b1e324664d3eaf.jpg

It’s already been said that the dock is for power and TV/USB connections only. I wouldn’t be surprised if something like the Nvidia Grid is available at some point in time though.

First off, the S7 destroys the iPhone 7 in camera quality, especially in the ISO try watching the comparisons. Also Sony makes the Apple camera, so it’s not even Apple. I’m pretty sure services like Slacker, Pandora, Spotify, Rdio, and Sirius are pretty significant in the music industry. I don’t know anyone who buys music from itunes anymore, unless they use the iPhone and are clueless about technology.

If mobile becomes the primary platform you’re just going to get swarmed with half-assed titles that have in-app purchases in each direction. Do you really want a bunch of Nintendo games with touch only controls? I don’t get how having a console can be a bad thing for Nintendo or the consumer. I’m excited for this device and to make another leap in the portable realm of gaming. This is the first we’re seeing of a portable/home based console and who knows what this could lead to in the future.

The Order is a great game.

So it was just rumors up until the launch?
I wrote a reply but it’s stuck in moderation, I removed 88 and replaced it with 8???8 if that was it but it’s still stuck and I don’t know what is wrong with it.
But regardless DxO mark put the leader Google Pixel at 89 and iPhone 7 and 86 and from the very first comparison over at Cnet it was obvious that the S7 had better images so I stopped after that one.
I wrote a bit about how I hadn’t thought my comment through and how it was about smartphones having replaced among others cameras and music-players (in this case also become a gaming device) and how Apple had made money out of that but if one count all the components and services then for sure there’s many making money out of it and no single player taking it all.

A new API for Nintendo?

If only PC gamers could use it. Oh well AMD has us covered 😀

So this will be running Pascal, right?

seems like it

Doubt it, its based on ARM and it can be close but outperforming it? Must reach high level of unfeasible power consumption just like Tegra K1 had.

If rumors are true there will be a Zen APU with HBM on-die for the GPU. If they can bring something out that fan run 1080p on medium settings at 45+ fps then the cost of gaming would come down dramatically. The 9850 isn’t bad, but if all you do is gaming and have the money for a dgpu then a Pentium would probably be your best bet. Or an i3 if you could swing the extra bucks. Hopefully all that changes in a few months.

But tell us Nvidia, is it a custom Pascal Tegra?

Nx is pretty much a handheld,with a dock?Do you really believe that you can have a 1.8tf GPU inside a confined space with passive cooling?I will be very surprised if it will be half of it.

Probably less.Even if the GPU is capable how will the cool it effectively inside a handheld,when the big systems with 10 times more space have problems with heat.

show me where the S7 destroys the iPhone7 in the camera department? S7 photos are oversaturated and over processed. iPhone also has superior OIS

I love it.

I would use the word custom to explain how good the switch is gonna be, if read the blog above it gives quite a few hints. The best bit is 500 man-years of effort in coming up with the design across every facet.

Move along come up with some think new in your agument against Nintendo, let me guess whats next its not powerful enough. If you know the future go buy a lottery ticket.

You gotta know when to stop talking crap- seen a ipod ad lately? Apple makes great product but they are trending down cause the market place have caught up with design as well as advetising, plus they are much cheaper options for what apple sells. Canon are doing great in the camera market. In australia an iphone can set you back anywhere from $600-$1200 which is alot of money to some.

make it cheaper than xbox n ps4 if u want it to succeed

You sir win the prize for being slow and stupid, your prize is to never get it, Sony or Microsoft will be calling you tomorrow.

Nintendo makes their money the same way Apple, Steam, Sony and Google do. 30% cut on all software sales. Giving other stores a cut seems shortsighted especially since tablet sales have tanked since phablet phones became a thing.

Android is also a bad platform for Nintendo gaming. Performance issues and inefficient battery usage have plagued Android since its inception.

You know what else Nintendo does well. Quality hardware. It is very easy to find older used Nintendo systems in perfect working conditions.

Probably, it would make sense actually, imagine the power of a energy-efficient gtx 1050 for mobile games, that’s what I think Nintendo Switch could be, hope that’s the case, Oh well, March isn’t that far away.

About time a console company joins nvidia instead of amd xD excited to see how this will compare the nvidia shield tablet/tv but no doubt this has potential

The rumor is that former NX is behind ps4 in raw power, Nintendo isn’t trying to compete with PCMR instead is offering something PS Vita couldn’t.

Still, it was one of the selling point of the Wii U (full Wii compatibility). Including the possible peripherals sharing and re-use, I guess. We’ll see this time.

I can afford something like an i7 6800K too. It’s just all about what I want to spend the money on 🙂
As for “cost of gaming coming down” I’ve played on the NES and I’ve played Quake in 320×200 where it ran very well on Pentium 90 MHz with 16? 32? 64 MB of RAM. You get more than that in whatever model of the Raspberry Pi so it already have come down a lot but so has the possibilities and demands and people have a similar capacity to spend so they do ..

Yup first source I read was bad, I just checked a half dozen more and it was about 650 GFLOPs. Remember that the CPU is counted when they put out those numbers.

lol.. why would I buy a Shield when I could buy this and play Nintendo games on it?

Have you not seen the huge focus on power lately? They have manage to cram desktop GTX 1080 parts into laptops for crying out loud.

I think nVidia have been working very hard to fix their issues with mobile. If there is one thing Nintendo do well its make reliable hardware, if they have faith in nVidia to deliver I’d be shocked if they didn’t.

This is Nintendo, there is no way they will want to sell the parts separately and rightly so – it will just confuse people as to if its a handheld or a console. This was a problem with Wii U even though it was bundles, people thought it was a tablet for Wii.

We don’t even know if it has touch at all yet, but it would be silly not to as if it could somewhat replace any other tablet you own too it increases the chance of you taking it with you.

Pretty sure they also said from the start that they want this to be independent of the Wii U and 3DS, so I wouldn’t hold my breath for any compatibility. Although it certainly would be nice if they at least gave a discount to upgrade digital Wii U titles to the Switch, like they do for Wii virtual console titles on Wii U. I don’t want to have to buy my Mario Kart 8 track DLC again.

Final Fantasy, The Elder Scrolls, Persona, Tales series, Kingdom hearts, Fire Emblem, Monster hunter, Star Ocean, just to name a few. I’m just answering your question and listing some good RPG series. I personally find Zelda to be quite enjoyable to play.

I will be very surprised if its not simply 720p as that would allow the system to easily match or beat Wii U quality graphics when portable, any higher and you are just wasting power.

Then there is the fact Nintendo have always been very conservative on their portable screen resolutions, with the 3DS being a puny 800×240 and even the Wii U Gamepad was only 854x480p. So 1280×720 is a significant upgrade for them and readily available, I don’t think anyone has even made a 900p LCD.

You seem to misunderstand what people are referring to when they say the CPU is bottlenecking the GPU. They aren’t referring to just rendering a simple benchmark scene to the GPU, they are referring to actually running games.

A slow CPU bottlenecks a high-end GPU BECAUSE it can’t run the game at a resolution that maxes out the GPU. I had Assassins Creed Syndicate bottleneck at 1080p Ultra settings on an i5 2500, it couldn’t hold 60fps. I upgraded to an i5 4690 and that stabalised the game.

There would be absolutely no point in putting a GPU in the dock as it would just increase cost and complexity. It wouldn’t be able to instantly switch between internal and external GPU, it would crash if you suddenly undocked it or if the dock pins got a little dirty all sorts of weird things could happen. There would be just way too much to go wrong.

On the other hand just look at the latest laptops with a full GTX 1080 in them, they too only crank up to full power when plugged into the mains. Its clear nVidia have been working on this sort of thing for a while now so there is no reason why the Switch couldn’t work the same way, those vents on the top look pretty huge so I think its safe to assume that is how it works.

Xenoblade.. Certified Classic IMHO. It will stand the test of time.

You are forgetting that a 1TFLOP nVidia GPU performs significantly better than an 1TFLOP AMD GPU.

There is the also the fact there is NO other system where you would be able to play games even close to PS4 quality as portable as this. Streaming doesn’t count as its not 100% reliable (heck, I can’t get remote play to work well even in the home) or always available.

Nope, take a gtx1060 and a rx480, and see the performance difference between both, the first do better only in dx11 respect the second (that have an evident driver problem).

nice job nvidia… hoped u jumped on concoles once more, have u in my computers since g5 on mac 18 years ago. really hope its the pacal chip with some given love from both sides

Yes, as a pc gamer I know how cards work, and there are a lot of cards that are made to be compact. Ps4 uses outdated technology from 2010, here is a laptop on part with the ps4, which is very thin, the Lenovo y50. I mean for a console peasant it may be hard, but that laptop I showed you is already 5 years old, and now they have far more powerful cards to fit in that same space, you would also be surprised how compact cooling could be if you knew cooling worked, since the fan doesn’t cool the part directly.

Good points, all. The only thing about a GPU in the dock is that it would keep the base cost affordable ($100 GPU performance level) but make the system expandable so it could accommodate VR and 4k in the future.

There is more to improving the platform than the GPU and having something better in the base unit would break the portability and just be bottlenecked by the rest of the system unless they had a whole console in there.

Its also not simple interfacing from one unit to another. SoC do not usually have things like PCI Express so it would increase the cost of development and potentially decrease the power efficiency to do so. Just not practical IMO.

I don’t see how that could work with the ability to just instantly undock the thing though. Just look at external GPUs for PC, tons of problems getting them to work plug and play even when on the desktop never mind while gaming.

I just can’t see them having it expandable, that would drastically increase the cost NOW as SoC have as little expandability as possible to decrease cost and increase power efficiency. It would also mean the dock connector had to be much more advanced to handle higher bandwidth use. So basically, it cranks up the cost for so little return.

Don’t get me wrong i would like NN to be a powerful system,but knowing NN i don’t think that will be the case….Lets wait and see.

Cry, Havoc! And Let slip the dogs of war. This is a gamer.

Not a very fair comparison since Sony is in multiple industries.

*900p confirmed

Graphics are something. Not everything, not nothing. I like a game with a good balance of solid gameplay, compelling graphics/sound effects, and engaging narrative. This isn’t a political campaign, there’s no reason to be absolutist. I’ve played games with stick figure characters before…because the gameplay was fun…but I prefer games with more compelling graphics.

probably Pokemon Go…and he’s probably one of the 20mil that pre-signed up for Mario Run… XD

Ya I think you you hit it right on the T. Without good software games backing Nvidia up not enough people were buying shield tablets. I can see lots of people buying this for unpresidented mobile graphics for NINTENDO games. I think Nvidia did a smart thing. Before they wanted cake and eat it too

Really maybr this list will change your mind Bandai Namco
• Bethesda
• Capcom
• Codemasters
• CRI Middleware
• DeNA
• Electronic Arts
• Epic Games
• Firelight Technologies
• FromSoftware
• Frozenbyte
• GameTrust
• Grasshopper Manufacturer
• Gungho Online Entertainment.
• Hamster Corporation
• Havok
• Inti Creates
• Koei Tecmo Games
• Konami Digital Entertainment
• Level-5
• Marvelous
• Maximum Games
• Nippon Ichi Software
• Parity Bit
• PlatinumGames
• RAD Game Tools
• RecoChoku
• SEGA Games
• Silicon Studio Corporation
• Spike Chunsoft Co
• Square Enix
• Starbreeze Studios
• Take-Two Interactive Software
• Telltale Games
• THQ Nordic
• Tokyo RPG Factory
• TT Games
• UBbisoft
• Ubitus
• Unity Technologies
• Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment
• Web Technology Corp now tell me nintendo still hates 3rd party companies

test akfd

When you lower the resolution it’s easier for the GPU to handle

Yes since you can make it mobile tech has to be lower basically selling a better new 3ds that connects to a TV

199.99 basic to 249.99 bundle.

Xbox 360 – 2005
Ps3 – 2006

Both used 2004-5 tech 😉

i hope the next gen is not called Nintendo Switch DS

Not true, my shield tablet runs marshmallow and is crazy fast even today.

OS speed is something completely different from game quality.

Actually, it’s got a 1080p display compared to the switch which is rumored to be a 720p display, so obviously you’ve done no research there.

You have no idea what you’re talking about. Pixel count is only one of the factors of picture quality.

Even 480p at 60 FPS is better than 30 FPS in any case.

I’m wondering if I can lay down this device? With the vent on top dust cab fall in.

“Based on the high performing GeForce tech” yes, like a 2 cylinder engine based on the same tech as a V-12. Doesn’t make it powerful, in fact this thing is a dog.

So it is a Mario enabled shield tablet….

Hmm, no thanks.

But Sony losses 70m with ghostbusters this year and in May of this year after 40m ps4 Sony begings to get benefits from the console.

Doesn’t matter that your Shield tablet are “crazy fast” even today.
The Nintendo Switch will AT-LEAST have the same chip but much more likely a new more powerful one.

I agree 100%, but this was in direct response to silkylove’s claim to the opposite, that Nintendo is doing so well financially that it’s beating out all of Sony Corporation. In spite of the fact that most investors are now leary of Nintendo because the opposite trend has been going on for long enough that Switch is starting to be considered “make or break” for the company.

CRAP! LONG LIFE TO PS4 PROOOO!!!

Quick question… how do you think it’s going to place with other handheld consoles? Lower end: PSVita
Middle: Nvidia Shield Handheld
Higher End: Razer Edge.
I’m thinking maybe somewhere around Nvidia Shield.

wot? lol. The potatostation is not on the same level as PC. You are the pleb sir 🙁

Leave Nintendo alone they had to get out of their relationship with IBM they used the same chipset since 2000. Over clocked on the Wii. And Ds and 3ds was just ARM

NINTENDAH POWAHHH!

Nintendo not doing console would be a favor??? That’s bullshit!
Every Nintendo console have something unique, creative and fun… PS and xBox are only regular console… Which lag by the way… My underpowered Wii U doesn’t lag…
I’ll probably sell my PS4 for that Nintendo Switch!!! Nintendo doesn’t only make the best quality in software… They make the best hardware as well!

Squenix for a KH 3 Switch and some FF. Nintendo is good with JRPGs.

Sounds like nvidia put a lot of work into the Switch.

A thousands excuses!
I wanted to answer InaneDragon!

Equity DOES NOT EQUAL cash reserve (even by equity the two comp. are about equal). The thing is, Sony is head first buried in debt, that’s equal or exceeding any cash or cash equivalents they can liquidate on a short notice. Nintendo on the other hand has never been in debt and has a vault of cash in reserve. I have no stakes at either and I am a PC gamer first.

Could you give any details on the actual chip that’s powering the Switch? The (supposedly) leaked devkit specs point to Tegra X1, but could you confirm if it’s indeed the X1, the X2, or a custom chip? Is the GPU using Maxwell of Pascal architecture? You say “NVIDIA gaming technology is integrated into all aspects of the new Nintendo Switch”, which might lead some to guess that there’s also some Nvidia hardware in the dock (it sure is bulky enough to contain a small eGPU). Any comments? 😛

Master race = PC + Nintendo Switch + PlayStation Now LOOOOOOL

Well neither issue for the Wii U is really the problem. The problem is the AAA third parties didn’t uphold their promise to Nintendo and Wii U consumers potential and current. That and other devs back talking the console for petty reasons. Devs can make games for any platform with effort. Effort just needs to be applied is all. And I believe I read it was comparative to the 360 to develop for so calling t a nightmare is a bit of a stretch considering how many games were tossed on that console.

Well neither is Switch, but thats not the point.The point is you are pleb because you cant affored it(which is literely the only reason people hate on etc.consoles,otherwise what gamer would actually not buy it for games?). And Ps4 has good games,GAMES,exclusives ever heard of it?

Get a grip Nvidia are saying in not so many words the Switch has cutting edge tech inside 500 man years of engineering means seriously optimised hardware and based off the latest line of geforce graphics means just that.

No they don’t boy,Nintendo in 3 years will be worth so much money they will be able to buy Sony and Microsoft,Nintendo with there mobile venture will make billions and billions year in year out…..plus Nintendo have more assets then Sony all day long..Sony are in the red mate.

So there saying it has graphics based off the most powerful on the market,ps4 gpu was old when it came out 2 years old…..

Will NVN include Vulkan support?

looks very interesting. on the Tegra.. dev kits from nintendo are using the Tegra X1. This does not appear to be the X2 as developing on an X1 would certainly have incompatibilities if consumer models had X2s in them. , Rather it likely is a redesigned X1 with a beefier gpu including more cuda cores than the one in the Shield. I guess we will see in the future when nintendo releases actual specs.

“OS speed is something completely different from game quality”
Yeah due to that reason my shield tablet can play many PC games natively from the tablet storage.

“You have no idea what you’re talking about. Pixel count is only one of the factors of picture quality.”
You have no idea what the context even is. The guy said “Better display” and I replied with facts about a higher res display. The shield tablet has a simply better display.

Everywhere I’ve read it says it’s a 720p display. So don’t get your hopes up. Also “900p” isn’t “confirmed” that’s also another rumor.

How old are you? 12? The only systems nintendo has had under-powered were the wii and wii u. The Wii U’s leaked specs pushed sony/microsoft’s current specs to try and squash that competition before it could start.

Nintendo had a more powerful console than sony that was also easier to develop for with the gamecube, but you can see how well that strategy paid off lol. They lost to the PS2 with its “plays DVDs” gimmick.

“can’t afford it”? wtf are you on about? rofl I have a PS4 in my house. It’s literally for my youngest daughter. My PC blows it out of the sky. The PS4 has the Last of US…big woop. Are you for real? Can’t afford it he says lol this kid.

You honestly think people who prefer PC hate on PS4 cuz they ” can’t afford it”? are you that stupid?

The wii u list had maybe 10 3rd party groups on board

Ninty deserves a cookie

So what? They had a list of developers as long for the gamecube all the way to the Wii U, and we all know how that turned out.

Well that explains why there are no nvida shields. You are using all the chips, factories and materials for Nintendo. Good for you but bad for your potential customers who want a shield.

the thing is, nintendo is gonna have an efficient operating system, not that java based crap that eats half the hardware on nothing! bad really bad 20 century ram managment, you cant even get the idea of what the hardware potential is with that OS, its so sh***y, so fu***ng sh***y , nintendo is gonna have a good OS for gaming and a new api, probably this api will have vulkan support and so yeah, open platform great but unfortunately is not good at anything because is based of freaking JAVA 2016 pls its not even a joke , doesn’t interact with the hardware as a modern OS like windows does, its complete garbage, and yes nintendo is going to have this much more modern operating system

Switch should have GameStream. The stream-from-pc is going mainstream now

“TEGRA”

I understand what you mean Matt, but I’m trying to get an estimate for price. It could be around 350 to 400 dollars. I just wanted a second opinion.

Given the fact that we all know it’s TEGRA based, why is it so important to keep the custom aspects a secret? Even if it’s a custom built X1 variant, what’s so important about protecting that fact?

There’s an internet of people speculating whether the custom chip is Maxwell based or Pascal/ Parker based, 20nm vs 16nm etc etc.
Again, we all know that it’s obviously one or the other. Why not just confirm which flavour this custom chip is based on.

Personally I think the 16nm fab has much more going for it with this form factor. But, a custom X1 could be interestingly potent depending on the specifics of those hardware customisation’s and how it’s cooled. Would Nintendo have asked for 16nm to that design when an existing design already is in production at that die size? Nope. That’s not cost effective at all and makes no sense.

Nintendo are unfortunately far too protective of their image and are hand tied on this relevant aspect of the reveal process due to insistence on gameplay first philosophy. That isn’t to say gameplay first is a failed marketing angle to take, but saying nothing substantial about tech is antithetical to the pre-release process in today’s connected environment.

Switch looks great either way. But, having basic tech specs confirmed isn’t the devil. Poor Nvidia. That 500 man years of customisation is a marketing stream of articles with major gaming outlets waiting to happen. All good things for the hype of Switch before March. Wasted opportunity.

You’re not in the arms race by promoting the tech behind your products. Lol

Yes exactly. It’s an attractive match up. I’m actually surprised it happened. Pleasantly…

It would be cool if this supported NVIDIA Gamestream like the SHIELD devices. Of course, it probably will not, but it’s still something im hoping for.

Well pricing has a lot to do with the audiences not buying into a lot of those games. Granted, yes, sales were underwhelming for those good ports, but Deus Ex released on the Wii U for $60 when other platforms had it at a fraction of the price. Or when the Wii U got only Mass Effect 3 at full price, while the Trilogy was released on the other consoles at the same time. I am also curious as to the underwhelming sales considering the parroted statement that the Wii U didn’t sell well itself, so I do wonder what counts as underwhelming sales when the console itself isn’t selling that fast.

Either way however, Nintendo has had people on the edge of their seat for the better part of 2 year with two letters and an vague idea. I think they have the attention area covered. We don’t really know if they’re merging their 3DS and Wii U development into just Switch game development. So while theoretically that may be true, it’s also a little premature to assume as much.

All it really needs is just to come up with the goods and for people to stop with the knee jerk negativity that the gaming industry seems to default into these days and just enjoy games without slamming games they don’t like or aren’t interested in. If we’ve finally moved past that muck started last gen, I think the Switch will be just fine.

is maxwell based on same architecture as their top performing geforce series???

which one do their strongest card for ge force series use

how would it appear not to be the X2, do the article say that or people assumption……..here are some keywords people often overlook from this article………NVIDIA GPU based on the same architecture as the world’s top-performing GeForce gaming graphics cards………now look at their top of line Geforce desktop graphics and look to see what architecture it use, once you figure that out you one step closer to figuring things out, instead of just making assumption on x1

lets look at what they wrote

NVIDIA GPU based on the same architecture as the world’s top-performing GeForce gaming graphics cards.

lets take a look at their top of the line GPU that came out this year for desktop so we can see what architecture it use, then we can make some assumptions

is the one with pascal their strongest,

they put top performing, world’s top performing in any other sentence would be number 1 in whatever it is, if I was to say Jimmy is the world top performing runner it would mean out of all runners he would be number one runner all across the world…….so this GPU have same architecture as their top of line number 1 gpu……..on their website it is the Titan X which is based off Pascal so it is pascal

what narrative I change……look at it…..NVIDIA GPU based on the same architecture as the world’s top-performing GeForce………which is the number one GeForce on their page its the Titan X, under that it is the 1080……and all of them use Pascal…….so the architecture is Pascal……which part confuse you

See quotation above. Lol

Read my posts again and ask yourself, do I seem confused to you?
Relax, you believe it’s conclusively Pascal and that’s fine. It was obvious from your first reply.

I’m saying the statement is not conclusive and without specifics from Nvidia we can only go on what seems like the logical answer which to me is Pascal.

Still, this is not the same as “knowing it is”

Are you confused on the concept of “knowing”…??

Knowing, Assuming, Wanting and Hoping.
I think you’re three for four here buddy.

Without absolute confirmation you’re still left assuming, no matter how logical that assumption seems.
Titan X and Titan X (Pascal) are both top performing “cards”. The architecture in either could be sufficient to the statement made by Nvidia.

Again, I think it’s most likely Pascal. But, it might not be just as easily. So I ask you again Lol, do you know what “cards” mean? If so, why are you asking for a comparison to “one card”…?

See where your assumption is not the same is confirmation? No matter how logical. The comment may “point to” but it does not “confirm outright”. Therefore it is still unknown.

Well, we certainly agree there. When I was in Japan recently I was surprised at how many execs 45-55 were out on their travels; cafe’s, subway etc playing 3DS. Surreal…

I agree with you even though I never been there, only because I see japan sales every week. I already know they will be all over the Nintendo Switch……people do not believe me but I think the Nintendo switch will steal a franchise from the consoles, look at dragon quest, once Square Enix seen the sales on the DS, I already knew Dragon Quest was gone, then they bring it to the 3ds, which also gave them millions of sales again, so it only confirm to me it was gone from Consoles. Although it is coming to PS4 I think it was before they knew about the Nintendo Switch, when they started getting information and talked about the NX, they announce Dragon Quest 11 early, when they were not suppose to, so they deny it, and then later confirm it since they already messed up and announced it earlier. This another sign it left consoles, when Square still making a dragon quest 11 for the 3ds even though it cannot handle ps4 and Switch graphics, so they making a different version of the game. They could of just save their money and put it towards the ps4 version but no, they needed to have a handheld version out there. I do not blame them because Japan is all handheld, it would make no sense in the future to keep making their games for consoles, when most sales come from nintendo handheld, same as what capcom doing with Monster hunter, they do not want to lose those sales so they keep it on Nintendo handheld. These are the games the consoles will lose, this just my opinion, Final Fantasy, and Tales series. Tales do not sell that good on ps4, but they kept making it because of the graphics, they wanted their game to look decent at least, and with Nintendo new handheld if the first game they bring have good sales, say good bye to future ps4 versions, they will probably make 2 more ps4 versions but after that it be wrap, and the reason I say final fantasy because Square already testing the 3ds, look at bravely default, final fantasy explorers, they been testing the market and its been selling, and there was a rumor already, that Square plans to port Final Fantasy XV and final fantasy 7 remake to Nintendo new handheld. Before this rumor even came out, I knew it would happen, just need to wait to see if the rumor true. Sony fans will be upset, but these companies want to make money, if ps4 version sell only 500,000 it wont be enough, and they know with all the development cost, they probably can make some of the money back on Nintendo new handheld.

The Shield tablet outperforms the PS3 and is about on par with the WiiU in raw flops. The architecture is superior to either though.

Japanese RPG’s belong on Switch. That’s just the beginning and end of that conversation…

Hopefully its region free like speculated so we can all partake in that regardless of localisation or not.

Interesting, i didn’t know the Razer Edge. Watching it on razer’s site i noticed that it has similar vents as switch. Using vents means high power to dissipate becouse high raw power or low efficiency. I hope for the first case.

Yea because an opinion used as a selling point should be taken as fact. Time will tell. People aren’t skeptical because of some grand conspiracy, people are skeptical because Nintendo has failed to please its fans recently.

Sold…!!!!! Day one

Yep based on Tegra X2 easy…

Ps4 pro is bottlenecked just like ps4 base by its cpu why do you think games struggle to hit 60fps….

Stop dreaming mate try between 2 teraflops and 4 teraflops the X2 runs anything between 2.2 and 4 teraflops,parker is 2 X2 chips and produces 8 teraflops….

Ok mate ? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3efe80ec7778a83705298ea7d01e34d9f21d60f292cb8cfc6a51289596be2dc5.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b26d238e17984d616c83143d8588a7f0d0a0aa8876e9a53e7bfba77fd757e851.jpg

Nvidia chips are 40% more efficient so work it out basically you could have something that is 60% the power of ps4 and it would perform equal…

LoLoLoLoL. No they don’t…. They are using Nvidia’s hardware BECAUSE they don’t make good hardware anymore. They dont lag? They dont lag because the games arent that demanding. The games that do lag on ps4 and xboxone are usually just poorly optimized and are fixed. I havent bought a Nintendo console since the wii. Hardly touched it because it was crap. No interest in the wii u. I am 100% going to buy switch because they are actually using decent hardware and have a decent design. I only hope that they will allow nvidia to implement their gamestream tech somehow.

It really needs raw power better than Xbox One though for best support.. that will be disappointing if its not even as powerful as that. I’d rather the system be a bit more expensive and more powerful tbh.

TL:DR, you got triggered because I corrected you. Again, you must be fun at parties. Or not, because you call people dumb because they don’t agree with you.

OK now it costs 350 smackeroos buddy features beyond rx480 some gpgpu will take up slack. Twin 16bit takes it to 8.4 tflops extra gig of gddr3 sata 3 very effective 2k upscaling all sorts of hardware tricks smarter not brute force and again I say 350 fiat zen would of been nice but compatibility had to be perfect.

I know but im thinking day of we coulda got something but nooooo big N goin ham… No mo info til 2017… Damn….

Don’t worry about the parties. You’re wrong and I’m right and whatever I’m fun or boring at parties doesn’t change that whatsoever.

“My rumor is better than your rumor”, we don’t know anything. Heck, it could be a 240p display or a 9001k display.

You say the Switch is a rebranded Shield Tablet? -_-

nice to see you here lol

the question is how do they compare to ps4/xb1

kinda true

story is not what makes zelda zelda, its the dungeons and gameplay

Those are part of the story.

The Shield has an excellent display. What it doesn’t have are excellent games

SO SHILD HAS GYRO MOUSE !!!!!! SO SHILD HAS MULTIPUL CONTROLERS AND CONTROL CONFIGS !!!!!

SO SHILD HAS MULTI CONSOLE LOCAL MULTI PLAYER WITH NO REDUCED PERFORMANCE!!!!

SO SHILD HAS ON THE GO AND AT HOME GAMING!!!!

SO SHILD HAS NINTENDOS INDUSTRY LEADING GAMES !!!!!!

SO SHILD HAS TWO PEOLE USABLE BUILT IN DETACHABLE CONTROLS!!!!!

SO SHILD HAS A WII REMOTE AND CHUCK PRO PAD HYBRID CONTROL CAPABILLITY !!!!

i could go on all day so shild is a costom tegra for 2017 and beyond DUDE REALLY THINK BEFORE YOU POST

NINTENDO HAS USED THIRD PARTY CHIPS FROM DAY ONE IN THE 80S

destroyed again SO XBOX AND PS DONT USE AMD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No data…

Given the fact that we all know it’s TEGRA based, why is it so important
to keep the custom aspects a secret? Even if it’s a custom built X1
variant, what’s so important about protecting that fact?

Simple: NDA.

I don’t claim to know if they made their own chips or not. I am just saying that nintendo has basically been “gimmick hardware” since the wii came out. I purchased the wii, played one game on it, and never touched it again. Also…. no… xbox and ps DO use AMD. AMD is majorly underpowered and also cheap. They did not “win” in the “console war” because they were superior. They “won” because they are simply cheaper. Thy had a lower bid and got the contracts… nothing more.

Come on, this make no sense, you can’t compare a powerful Android tablet with a real gaming console, with all the proper console version of games which won’t arrive on Android, especially the Nintendo’s one, and with the gimmick of those controllers which can be used in different ways, and of course the dock that easily turns it into a home console

Take your own advice.

The Wii U’s leaked specs pushed sony/microsoft’s current specs to try and squash that competition before it could start.

This is a fact. It actually happened exactly like that.

But here’s the thing. Now is not then. PS4 Pro and Scorpion aren’t portables. If MS wanted they could revise the Surface brand and ad on some controller option. Sony could revive the Vita to something similar. All without knowing a single thing about what’s in the Switch. Now it’s concept is revealed.

Nintendo held it close to their chest and did a great job at that. Now though, it affects nothing to disclose basic specifications about their system. Nintendo has to learn to steer the discussion. Don’t jump off the dance floor altogether cause you fell over one time and every one laughed. They let the speculations run wild after Wii U released again, when it was already damage done. And, all that negative speculation amplified the bad vibes towards their console product.

If they go the same way again now… Same thing probably.

Holy shit, this is just so asome. This is going to be the best console ever created, like ever!

Since it’s custom, it could be a switchable Parker? Underclocked 1-chip on the go, full-clocked 2-chip config docked?

No idea.

Devs working on Breath of the Wild claim that the game looks a whole lot better on Switch than on Wii U. Given this, it seems more likely it’d be on the high end of that scale.

Wording in this blog implies Pascal CUDA cores, and they said custom chip, which means modded tegra X2.

The words “leading chips” implies Pascal CUDA cores, so Switch will have a modded tegra X2.

As the blog post implies, they’ll be Pascal CUDA cores. X2 will use 256, and given the gains we’ll see over the X1, it’ll be very close to XB1 territory when docked. But it’s a custom chip with custom API, so it’s hard to tell right now.

LOL yeah but you have to wait 10mins when you click on any menu XD I have all current gen consoles and sorry but the WiiU is utter poop. Even stuff like loading the WiiU store takes for ever XD and that’s with 200/30 internet connection XD. Once it’s opened and IF you stay on the main page just to boot a game to switch between the Mii view and game view. Sure its lag free! XD I do enjoy Nintendo games, don’t get me wrong, but the WiiU is by far the worst piece of trash ever made XD I am really hyped for this Nvidia offering and maybe finally having a good Nintendo console (since Wii and WiiU were really poop)

The loadings on the PS4 are even worst, and it’s incredibly laggy and unstable…
Your not impartial, it shows…

Clearly the public loves ‘regular’ but powerful consoles, not toys.

AMD is not under powered, they are strong and have excellent visual quality. Nvidia has faster speeds, lower RAM amounts and lower visual quality. AMD has the visual quality over raw speed. I know, because I rocked Nvidia for ten years, then switched to AMD. Once I saw their video and texture quality, it has been hard for me to want to switch back.

I would not say it is on par with those, but only on par with a shell, not the egg yolk…

Dunno man, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9QhOOGm_2k Visuals look pretty stunning to me. Pretty sure it seems like the nvidia side can also see a bit further out with more detail 😛 Not that its that big of a difference in visual fidelity.

Only a preview, not a full reveal.

The Wii was a novelty item, which is why it’s success was not repeated with the similarly named “Wii U.” The Wii had no games and most played the pack-in, then it was abandoned by all but little kids.

As far as the article goes, I must have clearly missed the line you gave! It cannot use the same chips because the other two use AMD chips. So, far, only portable power seems to be the case. The design shows that portability is the main thing, not home console use, despite what Nintendo said.

Toys… Like you know what you’re saying… You’re just close minded… You must have a xBox…

Listen the specs on X2 are from 2.2 to 4 teraflops end of….they use 2 powerful X2 chips for driveless cars and they produce 8 teraflops….ps4 is not powerful in terms of cpu power and this makes them teraflops worthless look at Watchdogs ect poor framerates on moderate graphics why because cpu power is what makes framerates good…..

I have heard that one developer is actually moving their PS4 game over to Switch so that means NX could be in the same ballpark as PS4 at the least

In all honesty Tessell, when you said you said nothing about the switch, you do realize you’re on a post about the switch right? So why are you bringing a useless argument with your shield being better or w/e? The shield wont be better, know why? Because they have horrible battery life, there has been a new GPU version that will be on the switch and not the shield, and it plays Nintendo games and not just android games….so yes, the switch will be better than your precious shield. But before you say “I never said anything about the switch”, keep in mind, you’re on a switch post…

Sorry mate but that link does not say nothing about X2 the only X1….look up parker that uses 2 X2 chips and work it out….

That is what Nintendo mean when they say we haven’t shown everything yet,on the left side of the dock there are usb sockets for the supplemental device….

I’m dreaming listen the Switch will use a custom chip with about 2 teraflops wait and see if I’m right…

With then huge vents on the side…

Cars have more power and basically no restrictions. Nintendo is not known for power AND they won’t even release the specs of the system and we are not even sure which Tegra chip is in this thing. For it to have ANY chance, there will have to be on in the portable and one in the base, when combined, makes for a system people can work with, even though it still looks more like a portable than a home system. Somehow, I doubt Nintendo learned their lessons.

We all know or should have known that the PS4/X1 are CPU weak. That was done to save power and to cut down on costs. I always said, if you put 8GB RAM on the Ps3/Xbox 360, they would be faster than the current, just without a lot of the later graphical features. Watch Dogs is not a good game to point out power or lack of it. GTA V is…

It’s a goddamn handheld dude lol. They can push more out of the specs than a full blown console.

Don’t know what kind of PS4 you have but mine is way faster than my WiiU. Popping out of game, going on the web, playing Spotify with the new update all of this is almost seamless. On the WiiU tapping home will take it a good few seconds to go to home and then let’s say I want to go look at pending downloads ill have to wait some more and more… Just try it. Like I said once in a menu it’s all smooth and pretty but getting there is a pain compared to PS4 or even Xbox1. Nintendo makes great games but their hardware has been bad compared to competition ever since the Wii. They have poor hardware and try to do similar things a much stronger competitor does. For sure it won’t perform as well. This Nvidia news is awesome to me since from what I understand it will be pretty strong yet mobile and Nvidia seems to be optimising the OS too. Anyway the only reason I bought a WiiU was for the games. The hardware is crap. It’s not about being impartial. It’s about being realistic XD

There’s going to be a new MonHun Direct on 28 in Japan but I don’t know if its for switch. According to the image, they won’t show any new Switch Titles and Smartphone titles there.

I already told you… Shut it… The Wii was not a disaster… Oh and when i told you about all the great games on the wii. I forgot mentioning Super Smash Bros. and the full gamecube library as well! My bad!
And have i told you the Wii U outsold the xBone? Yeah? Oh well whatever. The Wii U outsold the xBone!

Do you honestly believe that someone buys a console or a hardware in general for the specs or for the software?

The reason that gamecube played mini DVD was for the game loading. Nintendo did not wanted to have a hardware like playstation that loading was forever on each game.

How is nintendo behind? your logic is baffling.

You wrote a whole lot about nuthin. The Wii U failed. Nintendo admits it and everyone knows it. No need to keep lying.

That’s not true. They had the mini DVD because they looked cute and toy-like, like the GC design.

4k hdr virtual reality mobile phones that will be more powerful than ps4 and xbox one in next 2 years gaming pcs with near console convenience that you can use with your tv and a decent controller ergo we moved on bud.

Nintendo doesn’t like to be compared purely on raw specs.

But still This will be the most powerful mobile Nintendo console and most powerful tablet on the market so let’s see what devs do with that

in the future I Hope the SWITCH Pro or SWITCH 2 should use VULKAN MULTI GPU support and work like SLI. Then the games can specify if they are more optimized for Dock/home (SLI) or for Mobile (battery, touch screen, etc). That’s where the industry should head in the coming years

There’s no lie. It done better than a competitor…

Yes it could have the Denver CPU’s from X1, in which case we have a X1.5 or something like that. Nintendo could also just leave out the Denver cores in X2 and stick with just the ARMs

Ha ha nintendo is a powerhouse ? Really? Mortal kombat was both on sega genesis and snes , genesis version had bloods gores vs snes had compromise fatality . Plus all these nintendo consoles that random dude below me mention as nintendo powerhouse , all was defeated by a singles brand – PlayStation , PlayStation 2,PlayStation 4. Even PlayStation 3 outsell wiiu. I too use to beg , wait for master nintendo to ever release a console that is powerful , but my wait end after the first PlayStation console came out , afterward nintendo become a hasbeen joke of my childhood lifestory.I never spend 1 penny on anything with a nintendo brand on, i skip wii, i skip wiiu, . As for Nintendo switch , nintendo will never get my cash. Nobody play those wannabe smartphone games like mario an such anymore , people play candycrush,etc. Who going to buy a mario switch at 69.99 or 59.99 ? When you get mobile games for 99c or free? Nintendo trying to compete with device people already use or carry around , will not bode well. Also revealing Switch, trying to capture hardcore audiences with an Old 2007 game Skyrim, is retardation . You should of had Darksoul 4 , Elderscroll6 ,ninja Gaiden4 not Skyrim . While your Switch console get Skyrim , lol , we pre ordering Red Dead Redemption 2 on our old 2013 consoles PS4, an Our Xbox one , who happen to be more powerful then your 9gen console the Switch . Nvidia is a chip maker that love public attention , nintendo sign a deal with the devil, sony learn from mistake , drop Nvidia . Also While little casual audience of the zero install base of Nintendo switch , as of now , pondered mario , luigi, mario kart , cel shaded zelda game, i will be playing Last Guardian , World of Final fantasy , Dragon quest builder , persona5, yakuza6, dragon quest heroes1, dragon quest heroes2, yakuza Zero , Gravity rush2, Horizon zero dawn, God Of War , Daygone, Detroit become human , gran turismo sport, Red Dead redemption 2 , darksoul3,uncharted4,Dream, Future sequel like The Last of us2, Halo6, Gear of War5, PSVR, all 5 PSVR games . Bro should i continue bit more? Sunset Overdrive , Halo5, Gear of war4, forza5, forza6, forza horizon2, forza horizon3, Quantumbreak, Halo war2, scalebound, crackdown 3,dragon quest 11, FFXV, dishonored2, watchdog2, GTA5,call of duty infinite warfare , Battlefield 1, Titanfall2. While nintendo still begging to get proper 3rd party support , meanwhile PlayStation an xbox has been getting 3rd party support since Adam &Eve days . Do i even be serious ? Ok let me stop.

How the damn a 9 gen console look weak then an 8 gen consoles ? Hmmm?

Nvidia ha ha , they were so sour , sony microsoft didn’t use them as vendor .

All i ever need is a PlayStation , a PC , an a xbox gamepad , my smartphone , my tablet , that it . I will never switch . Ha ha switch .

The Wii U controller had a short battery life; lasting about three to five hours. I wonder how much battery life the Nintendo Switch will have.

Switch will arrive on 4th March of next year.
While pricing comes after Tesco published a placeholder page for the
pre-order of the new console, with the retailer listing it as for sale
for £350

Because technology is complex and very few people actually knows what specs mean. For instance it could have only half the flops of an Xbox one, but real world performance could be much closer than what the flop count would indicate. Most people would still think its just half as powerful, because they dont know how to read the specs.

Nonsense. No-ones talking about the finer points of compiling and debugging here. Lol

Exactly. Haha! My point exactly. Tells us the basic specifications. Tell us the GFLOP potential. Point out how that translate to real world performance through the games. Outline the customisation’s and what made them a “serious undertaking in engineering”.

And, people will make their own comparisons. Educate the masses on the “basics”. Bring us in. Lead us up to launch.

Technical specifications are a part of the process today. Absolutely people want to know whats under the hood.

i wonder how do they achieve performance and still can make it mobile i mean how do you even cool these cpu’s and gpu’s?