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A circuit court has extended the protections of disparate impact civil rights reasoning to the world’s 1,600,000,000 Muslims. It’s the Zeroth Amendment!

 
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  1. Pretty depressing… it will be used as a quasi-precedent by courts and leftists in Europe, too.

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    • Agree: NickG
    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    Europe is so far down the Muslim road they don't need any help.

    I read an article today on Macron: he really really thinks Islam is not a problem. He has no difficulty with the Muslim Brotherhood.

    He's clearly very ill informed and that's very depressing.

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10392/france-macron-islamists
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  2. we are so screwed it isnt funny.

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    • Agree: Frau Katze
    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    Well, step two is people beginning to ask how many tank battalions the judges have.
    , @Anonymous

    we are so screwed it isnt funny.
     
    Hey, just be glad you're not one of those towheads in a stroller pushed around by one of the those libtard moms in running gear that I see in my libtopia area. If that infant could see the future his mother is working for... "Thanks Mom, for working so hard to bring about a world which will be a little less hospitable to me than inmates at Rikers Island are to a skinny blond white boy."
  3. I didn’t even know until I Googled him, that Judge Gregory is black. Sooner or later, I might start Noticing Patterns…

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    • Replies: @Emblematic
    "...yet stands as an untiring sentinel..."

    The kind of over ripe, half preacher/half scholar-genius type language these 'black intellectuals' seem to like.
    , @Ed
    I didn't google him but I knew he was black by his writing. It's quite emotive for a higher court judge. Thanks for confirming though.
  4. No legal scholar am I, but the language

    “in text speaks with vague words of national security, but in context drips with religious intolerance, animus, and discrimination”

    certainly strikes me as highly atypical of the court judgments with which I am familiar, which normally are extraordinarily soporific even when far-reaching. Has this now become the judicial norm in the new Age of Enlightenment?

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    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    For the answer, turn to comment 3 above.

    http://www.unz.com/isteve/circuit-court-the-constitution-is-a-suicide-pact-after-all/#comment-1884742
    , @Desiderius
    The only relevant drips are those who wrote this asshole opinion
    , @Frau Katze
    Quote of judge

    “in text speaks with vague words of national security, but in context drips with religious intolerance, animus, and discrimination”
     
    "Religious intolerance, animus and discrimination."

    Why that sounds like the Islamic Republic of Iran! Or the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia!

    This is what they're like if they seize control.

    How many Muslims are too many, given that they have a noticeably higher birth rate than most other groups?

    I would say we need as few as possible.

    Islam is a political ideology with a religious gloss. The judge is wrong.
  5. @epochehusserl
    we are so screwed it isnt funny.

    Well, step two is people beginning to ask how many tank battalions the judges have.

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    • Agree: Jack Hanson
    • Replies: @jimbojones
    Presumably as many as are available to the United States Army. US troops are sworn to defend the constitution. But the judges get to decide what the constitution means.
    , @fred c dobbs
    Unfortunately there are many intermediate steps before we get to your Number 2. All of them more and more depressing.

    I don't think we will ever fall off a cliff (that's the only situation where I could see your #2 come in). I think it's one long, slow slide......a shnide, if you will. We're the frog in the pot.
    , @Jack Hanson
    As you can see, many here think the highest form of allowable dissent is a pithy blog comment, even when the unelected mandarins decide bad think is punishable by imprisonment.

    As I said before, pol is a greater barometer of the average mood of Trump voter than THE MOST IMPORTANT BLOG EVER's commentariat, and they're gearing up for WWIII.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    I think... all of them! Yup. Pretty sure.

    Oh, wait, wait. That's just blackpilling. Let's let Purple Muppet weigh in... Jack, tell us again the Good News, the gospel of Trump.
    , @AnotherDad

    Well, step two is people beginning to ask how many tank battalions the judges have.
     
    Trump blew the opportunity to strike back against the lawlessness of the judiciary when the district court ruling was made.

    Not only must the President have constitutional "no entry" authority in any kind of plausible reading of the constitution and in fact any plausible setup of authority for the leader in a free republic, but there is black letter law setting out such authority in our immigration law.

    The district court was doing pure judicial imperialism. Trump should have just said what I said, read out the relevant section of law, made a few pithy comments about elections and the people being sovereign and then instructed State and Homeland Security employees to continue to carry out his instructions.

    Huge missed opportunity. You can't let the leftists drag you into their legal morass--delay, delay, harass, harass--when you have the authority to act.
  6. @The Anti-Gnostic
    Well, step two is people beginning to ask how many tank battalions the judges have.

    Presumably as many as are available to the United States Army. US troops are sworn to defend the constitution. But the judges get to decide what the constitution means.

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    • Agree: Kevin C.
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    No they do not. Not every judge is a Supreme Court Justice and absolutely none of them are legislators.
    , @Henry Bowman
    Soldiers will not defend judges or their insane rulings
  7. @The Anti-Gnostic
    Well, step two is people beginning to ask how many tank battalions the judges have.

    Unfortunately there are many intermediate steps before we get to your Number 2. All of them more and more depressing.

    I don’t think we will ever fall off a cliff (that’s the only situation where I could see your #2 come in). I think it’s one long, slow slide……a shnide, if you will. We’re the frog in the pot.

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    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    Unfortunately there are many intermediate steps before we get to your Number 2.
     
    The Warren court was the first to discern the hitherto indiscernible out of the Constitution, and from there it's been a couple of generations to Judge Gregory's current muh feelz! interpretation of the Establishment Clause.

    Honestly, he's so wrong he's not even wrong. Like saying, "orange" in response to "What is 6 + 4?"

    So probably another two generations until Hon. Ta-Nehisi Coates, III (C.J.) declares the Constitution itself unconstitutional and the only people bothering to read the federal reports are other judges. (Kind of like law reviews and professors).
  8. It’s like John Lennon sang 50 years ago: “Nothing is real.”

    It really is as if nothing is “real” anymore. “We not like him. FASCISM! And Racism! You bad. Uh… Unconstitutional! And Russia. Did I mention RUSSIA!!!!?”

    There is no proportion, nothing follows from anything else. It’s just “We feeelz and we do what we want.”

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  9. If an Executive Order can be described as dripping with intolerance and animus, then this court order is dripping with contempt.

    Screw the government! Here comes an Irish democracy!

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    • Agree: reiner Tor
    • Replies: @anon
    Fact is, Trump is contemptuous towards judiciary (not aware or unwilling to accept that it is a separate branch of the government) and the judiciary is paying back (may be with compound interest). As a bonus, for the Constitutional traditionalists, this trims the wings of presidency a bit and shifts the power over to Congress. If Trump had better advisers, they would have cautioned him against going the executive order route and go the traditional legislative way. That would have made it much harder for a any one district court to rule unconstitutional since there would be Congressional record to back it up. But Trump loves the drama of imperial fiat not realizing how shallow that proclamation is. Expect many more political defeats for the juvenile presidency.
  10. Actually, this is pretty funny. Looks like we are moving toward some kind of Dred Scott decision on the immigration front, where the ability of Congress and the Executive to deal with a controversial and nationally divisive issue is taken away by federal judges who know better.

    It worked really well in 1858, glad we don’t need those Confederate Memorials to remind us what happens when an over-reaching Judiciary meddles in national politics.

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  11. We don’t have a Constitution any more. We have a rogue, out-of-control clique of elites in control of the government and they do whatever the hell they want. Domestic spying? Searches without warrants? Importation of foreign terrorists? Endless wars? Incomprehensible debt? Institutionalized anti-white discrimination?

    All of that and more. Only fools think the courts are going to re-impose some kind of constitutional order upon the government. To the contrary, the courts are staffed by elites who are the very usurpers of constitutional power.

    The people have been reduced to servants of an imperial occupation regime.

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  12. If my work over the last 5 yrs has taught me anything it’s that white people aren’t “uninformed” – what are is WILLFULLY IGNORANT. I used to get into conversations withwhite people who claimed “I’m not racist I just don’t understand”. We would go back & forth about reality & fiction and ventually we would get to the point where I was able to ask a very simple but telling question. They always told on themselves when I asked “If everything is so “equal” how do you explain the disparities in income, wealth & incarceration rates bet Black & white people?”

    only 2 answers to that ? – either you believe systemic oppression exists or you believe Black People are inherently more criminal than white people.

    All this “we gotta meet white people where they are” – when exactly do we insist that white folks meet People of Color where THEY are?

    We have spent the last 5 yrs doing nothing but pointing out the BLATANT ways white supremacy runs this society. You don’t have an excuse.

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    • Replies: @MW
    On this forum, it's not taboo to point out that - of course there's white supremacy. That's what countries are for. So the Chinese can have Chinese supremacy, and we can have white supremacy. If a country doesn't treat its own people as special, then what's the point?

    Unfortunately, millions have been brainwashed into thinking that birthrights are evil.
    , @Malcolm X-Lax
    I don't believe blacks are inherently more criminal. I believe they are inherently less intelligent on average and therefore are more likely to make bad decisions like...holding up a liquor store for $50. Or...assaulting someone while in standing in line at Chuck E Cheese because they disrespected you etc. and so on. By the way, I think that makes me a liberal around here.
    , @Tulip
    Its funny, twenty years ago, you go in a McDonald's, all the staff was Black.

    Today, you can't find a Black working at a McDonald's.

    If that's structural racism, what is the structure "the Man" is using to keep qualified Blacks out of the labor market? What structure is "the Man" using to push Blacks out of Black neighborhoods?

    Is it rednecks with MAGA hats and obscene mudflaps or is it some other force?

    , @Forbes
    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...........
    , @Anonymous
    "“If everything is so “equal” how do you explain the disparities in income, wealth & incarceration rates bet Black & white people?”

    only 2 answers to that ? – either you believe systemic oppression exists or you believe Black People are inherently more criminal than white people."

    - Dolt. Blacks making less money, spending wayyy more on idiotic nonsense compared to what they bring in, and committing way more crime than white people is not oppression of blacks. At the core, its due to a lower average IQ, lower self-control, lower future time orientation, and probably incompetent parents/relatives.

    Equal opportunity does not mean equal outcome.

    Why is it that we are led to believe blacks have no agency when they do wrong, but are solely responsible when anything good comes from them? And the reverse is true for whites?

    The only systemic oppression is oppression of whites. Blacks are coddled by the system, from elementary school to old age and everything in between, while whites are blamed for every failure of minorities, no matter how little involvement they had; whites are rabidly discriminated against by the system - its administered by the government, by the schools, by the media, by Hollywood, etc.
    , @Lagertha
    is this post by Tiny, a joke? The grammatical errors and drama is too much. I hate her or him, anyway.
    , @AnotherDad

    only 2 answers to that ? – either you believe systemic oppression exists or you believe Black People are inherently more criminal than white people.
     
    B
    , @Mokiki
    This reads like a Google translation of Ebonics to English.
    , @Harold
    Wow thanks, Tiny. I googled up where you took that from
    https://twitter.com/LeslieMac/status/867741657298604033
    (the rest is in further tweets)
    And, because of its source, it is a really good example for me to use in discussing these issues.
    I would never have guessed your trolling would be useful
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    • Replies: @27 year old
    The soldiers are there to protect the terrorists.
    , @eah
    https://twitter.com/nontolerantman/status/867057826144890880
  14. @Tiny Duck
    If my work over the last 5 yrs has taught me anything it's that white people aren't "uninformed" - what are is WILLFULLY IGNORANT. I used to get into conversations withwhite people who claimed "I'm not racist I just don't understand". We would go back & forth about reality & fiction and ventually we would get to the point where I was able to ask a very simple but telling question. They always told on themselves when I asked "If everything is so "equal" how do you explain the disparities in income, wealth & incarceration rates bet Black & white people?"

    only 2 answers to that ? - either you believe systemic oppression exists or you believe Black People are inherently more criminal than white people.

    All this "we gotta meet white people where they are" - when exactly do we insist that white folks meet People of Color where THEY are?

    We have spent the last 5 yrs doing nothing but pointing out the BLATANT ways white supremacy runs this society. You don't have an excuse.

    On this forum, it’s not taboo to point out that – of course there’s white supremacy. That’s what countries are for. So the Chinese can have Chinese supremacy, and we can have white supremacy. If a country doesn’t treat its own people as special, then what’s the point?

    Unfortunately, millions have been brainwashed into thinking that birthrights are evil.

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  15. Bottom line, oligarch power plus non Whites plus Nice White Ladies plus cucks equals mass Muslim migration.

    Can’t stop it, no hope of that. Survival depends upon abandoning hopium for White Male Identity politics making enemies fear us greatly. Particularly Nice White Ladies our main enemy as they give power to non Whites.

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    • Replies: @Lagertha
    what about building a real wall, in the North? I'm not being a jerk, whiskey, btw. I just recently signed up for classes about being an apiarist - beekeeper.
  16. What these judges are doing is very, very dangerous. Of course, what is needed is a total ban on further immigration from Muslim-majority nations. This ought to be done by congress (by repealing Hart-Celler) although they obviously won’t.

    But even if congress did repeal Hart-Celler, I wonder whether these judges–who are here invoking the Establishment Clause to invalidate a ban on immigration from merely seven Muslim-majority nations–would allow congress to implement nation-based immigration limits. Perhaps they’d rule these out, even legislatively, on equal protection grounds? Absolute insanity.

    In general, our judiciary is simply out of control. Let us remember the words of Thomas Jefferson:

    . . . to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions: a very dangerous doctrine indeed and one which would place us under the despotism of an Oligarchy. Our judges are as honest as other men, and not more so. They have, with others, the same passions for party, for power, and the privileges of their corps. Their maxim is ‘boni judicis est ampliare jurisdictionim,’ and their power the more dangerous as they are in office for life, and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the elective control. The constitution has erected no such single tribunal knowing that, to whatever hands confided, with the corruptions of time and party its members would become despots. It has, more wisely, made all the departments co-equal and co-sovereign within themselves.

    When Kennedy (or Gorsuch) cucks, Trump may need to go full Jackson: “The court has made its decision; now let them enforce it!” At that point he should add the other 50 Muslim-majority countries to the list.

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    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    Trump should have moved to crush the judiciary in January. He didn't then--he isn't now--he won't in the future. He couldn't/wouldn't even do nothing and let the protected status of the Haitians lapse. If he loses at the Supreme Court (50-50 proposition for the reason cited in your post, but I'd add Roberts as a potential cuck) he'll just say, "Oh, well, given the Constitution, my hands are tied."

    It's interesting that the Ninth Circuit released its opinion only a few days after yet another Muslim-initiated terrorist atrocity. Their arrogance is colossal. We are so screwed. I'm hoping for California secession leading to U.S. dissolution--maybe some remaining portion can have reasonable immigration laws.
    , @Abe

    But even if congress did repeal Hart-Celler, I wonder whether these judges–who are here invoking the Establishment Clause to invalidate a ban on immigration from merely seven Muslim-majority nations–would allow congress to implement nation-based immigration limits. Perhaps they’d rule these out, even legislatively, on equal protection grounds? Absolute insanity.
     
    Let's remember for a moment how gay marriage became the law of the land. A California judge ruled any prohibition on same-sex marriage against California's laws. Californians then passed a proposition explicitly defining marriage to be between 1 man and 1 woman. A California judge (don't recall if the same one) ruled THAT unconstitutional. California voters then passed a state constitutional amendment through a plebiscite/proposition AGAIN defining marriage to be between 1 man and 1 woman. A California judge then threw THAT out, saying the constitution as amended through its own constitutional processes is not really constitutional. This chain of events, I believe, ultimately lead to the case where the Supreme Court decided gay marriage was a constitutional right. Now THAT is insane.
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    Hitler’s Big Mistake was admitting he was the author of Mein Kampf. All he had to do was say, “These are the words of Zeus (pbuh) given to me by Divine Revelation,” and we would STILL be accepting Nazi refugees!

    /Big Bill/

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  18. @fred c dobbs
    Unfortunately there are many intermediate steps before we get to your Number 2. All of them more and more depressing.

    I don't think we will ever fall off a cliff (that's the only situation where I could see your #2 come in). I think it's one long, slow slide......a shnide, if you will. We're the frog in the pot.

    Unfortunately there are many intermediate steps before we get to your Number 2.

    The Warren court was the first to discern the hitherto indiscernible out of the Constitution, and from there it’s been a couple of generations to Judge Gregory’s current muh feelz! interpretation of the Establishment Clause.

    Honestly, he’s so wrong he’s not even wrong. Like saying, “orange” in response to “What is 6 + 4?”

    So probably another two generations until Hon. Ta-Nehisi Coates, III (C.J.) declares the Constitution itself unconstitutional and the only people bothering to read the federal reports are other judges. (Kind of like law reviews and professors).

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "The Warren court was the first to discern the hitherto indiscernible out of the Constitution..."

    Actually, it was Waite Court in Santa Clara v. Southern Pacific (1886) that bears this distinction. You're only off by 70 years.

    "and from there it’s been a couple of generations to Judge Gregory’s current muh feelz! interpretation of the Establishment Clause."

    Our Founding Fathers ensured freedom of religion across the board. In other words, they believed it as a universal concept, regardless if he she was a citizen or non-citizen. It is consistent therefore that no religious test be put forth.

    But since Congress is responsible for immigration laws, it would be under their authority to make it a priority that future immigrants are of the Christian variety, not the executive branch. Is Trump even guided by faith?
  19. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @eddy wobegon
    If an Executive Order can be described as dripping with intolerance and animus, then this court order is dripping with contempt.

    Screw the government! Here comes an Irish democracy!

    Fact is, Trump is contemptuous towards judiciary (not aware or unwilling to accept that it is a separate branch of the government) and the judiciary is paying back (may be with compound interest). As a bonus, for the Constitutional traditionalists, this trims the wings of presidency a bit and shifts the power over to Congress. If Trump had better advisers, they would have cautioned him against going the executive order route and go the traditional legislative way. That would have made it much harder for a any one district court to rule unconstitutional since there would be Congressional record to back it up. But Trump loves the drama of imperial fiat not realizing how shallow that proclamation is. Expect many more political defeats for the juvenile presidency.

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    • Agree: Thomas
    • Disagree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Alfa158
    Legislative action would have been shot down just as fast as executive order. Judges have decided they rule this country, and any decisions they make are backed by whatever thin rationalization gets the result they want. The judiciary has carried out a coup d'etat, and passing a law to block immigration would have just taken longer and then had the same result, judges would have overturned it.The question will eventually become does the nation allow itself to be ruled by unelected judges, plutocrats, professors and media mavens and if not, what's the way out.
    , @Almost Missouri

    "this trims the wings of presidency a bit and shifts the power over to Congress."
     
    No. Judge [sic] Gregory claims to be acting in the name of the Constitution, not Congress. Had Congress restricted immigration in a way he didn't like, he would have overturned that too.

    "That would have made it much harder for a any one district court to rule unconstitutional since there would be Congressional record to back it up."
     
    No. For same reason.
    , @guest
    "Trump is contemptuous towards judiciary"

    He's been contemptuous of specific judges. I don't know if he's contemptuous of the judiciary as a whole, or anymore than he is of the rest of the Swamp. If he is, that contempt has thus far only showed in occasional badmouthing.

    I realize "contempt" is a big thing with judges, but they don't control what people say about them outside the courtroom. Certainly their dignity (or lackthereof) doesn't put them beyond criticism.

    "shifts the power over to Congress"

    Hello! Congress already gave their power to the president. Without an "unless it affects Muslims" clause.

    "to accept that it is a separate branch of the government"

    Who's not accepting what, now? It's apparent to me that judges are usurping the power of both Congress and the president. Those are separate branches, hey.

    "the judiciary is paying back"

    Paying back what? Trump's campaign rhetoric? Some tweets? That's the Constitutional role of the judiciary in your mind: hamstringing the president for saying bad stuff about your peeps?

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    @epochehusserl
    we are so screwed it isnt funny.

    we are so screwed it isnt funny.

    Hey, just be glad you’re not one of those towheads in a stroller pushed around by one of the those libtard moms in running gear that I see in my libtopia area. If that infant could see the future his mother is working for… “Thanks Mom, for working so hard to bring about a world which will be a little less hospitable to me than inmates at Rikers Island are to a skinny blond white boy.”

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    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Nope. Those little bastards are all assured gigs as partners in Goldman Sachs, directors of marketing for Microsoft Corp., and sinecures as governmental functionaries with houses in Los Altos, Coral Gables, Malibu, and Bainbridge Island. They'll suffer about as much as those in the Vichy Regime did under the Germans.
  21. @for-the-record
    No legal scholar am I, but the language

    "in text speaks with vague words of national security, but in context drips with religious intolerance, animus, and discrimination"
     
    certainly strikes me as highly atypical of the court judgments with which I am familiar, which normally are extraordinarily soporific even when far-reaching. Has this now become the judicial norm in the new Age of Enlightenment?
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  22. It’s bad enough just dealing with hostile courts packed with Obama appointees. It’s that much worse when you realize Trump isn’t (and, increasingly might not be able to, as his Presidency disintegrates) appoint either judges or executive bureaucrats who could change the course of things, and for some reason isn’t making any moves to suspend DACA, or to even slow down refugee visas compared to past years.

    In short: given that the national question had been abandoned into the hands of a 70 year-old celebrity with a keen sense of drama and public attention, but apparently no coherent philosophy, no appreciable attention span, no sense of discretion, and little if any administrative ability, it may just have never had a chance, and the battle was already lost a long time ago. Anyone who cared about the matter probably should have been (and should be now) thinking about “continuity of civilization.”

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    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic

    In short: given that the national question had been abandoned into the hands of a 70 year-old celebrity with a keen sense of drama and public attention, but apparently no coherent philosophy, no appreciable attention span, no sense of discretion, and little if any administrative ability, it may just have never had a chance, and the battle was already lost a long time ago.
     
    Brilliant summation! Chinese and Russian historians will debate when the West lost its battle for the next hundred years. (They'll be the only places where such debate will be permitted.)
    , @IHTG
    The Trump administration actually confirmed a judge two hours ago. More are coming: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_judges_appointed_by_Donald_Trump
    , @Jasper Been
    You got that right.... sadly.
  23. @Oscar
    What these judges are doing is very, very dangerous. Of course, what is needed is a total ban on further immigration from Muslim-majority nations. This ought to be done by congress (by repealing Hart-Celler) although they obviously won't.

    But even if congress did repeal Hart-Celler, I wonder whether these judges--who are here invoking the Establishment Clause to invalidate a ban on immigration from merely seven Muslim-majority nations--would allow congress to implement nation-based immigration limits. Perhaps they'd rule these out, even legislatively, on equal protection grounds? Absolute insanity.

    In general, our judiciary is simply out of control. Let us remember the words of Thomas Jefferson:

    . . . to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions: a very dangerous doctrine indeed and one which would place us under the despotism of an Oligarchy. Our judges are as honest as other men, and not more so. They have, with others, the same passions for party, for power, and the privileges of their corps. Their maxim is 'boni judicis est ampliare jurisdictionim,' and their power the more dangerous as they are in office for life, and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the elective control. The constitution has erected no such single tribunal knowing that, to whatever hands confided, with the corruptions of time and party its members would become despots. It has, more wisely, made all the departments co-equal and co-sovereign within themselves.
     
    When Kennedy (or Gorsuch) cucks, Trump may need to go full Jackson: "The court has made its decision; now let them enforce it!" At that point he should add the other 50 Muslim-majority countries to the list.

    Trump should have moved to crush the judiciary in January. He didn’t then–he isn’t now–he won’t in the future. He couldn’t/wouldn’t even do nothing and let the protected status of the Haitians lapse. If he loses at the Supreme Court (50-50 proposition for the reason cited in your post, but I’d add Roberts as a potential cuck) he’ll just say, “Oh, well, given the Constitution, my hands are tied.”

    It’s interesting that the Ninth Circuit released its opinion only a few days after yet another Muslim-initiated terrorist atrocity. Their arrogance is colossal. We are so screwed. I’m hoping for California secession leading to U.S. dissolution–maybe some remaining portion can have reasonable immigration laws.

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  24. Text versus context. What, are judges Critical Theory professors now?

    (Yes.)

    By the way, since when can’t you be religiously intolerant in the name of national security? As if those are mutually exclusive.

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  25. If there is a de facto Zeroeth Amendment, doesn’t this imply that the whole world is American, the Bill of Rights extends everywhere, etc?

    And so we see that, in the end, Invade the World and Invite the World really are the same thing.

    I am looking forward to UKIP asserting their Second Amendment rights.

    “Team America, World Police” indeed.

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  26. anon says:     Show CommentNext New Comment

    no coherent philosophy, no appreciable attention span, no sense of discretion, and little if any administrative ability

    Since this description will be used increasingly in future, I suggest the abbreviation juvenile.

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    • Replies: @Thomas

    Since this description will be used increasingly in future, I suggest the abbreviation juvenile.
     
    Let's fill it out, analyze, and "unpack" it a little more then:

    No coherent philosophy, no appreciable attention span, no sense of discretion, little if any administrative ability, and sufficiently narcissistic and lacking in proportion that the mere suggestion that anything (like a scurrilous whispering campaign about Russia) takes away from his "landslide victory" drives him into serious, unforced errors.
  27. @Thomas
    It's bad enough just dealing with hostile courts packed with Obama appointees. It's that much worse when you realize Trump isn't (and, increasingly might not be able to, as his Presidency disintegrates) appoint either judges or executive bureaucrats who could change the course of things, and for some reason isn't making any moves to suspend DACA, or to even slow down refugee visas compared to past years.

    In short: given that the national question had been abandoned into the hands of a 70 year-old celebrity with a keen sense of drama and public attention, but apparently no coherent philosophy, no appreciable attention span, no sense of discretion, and little if any administrative ability, it may just have never had a chance, and the battle was already lost a long time ago. Anyone who cared about the matter probably should have been (and should be now) thinking about "continuity of civilization."

    In short: given that the national question had been abandoned into the hands of a 70 year-old celebrity with a keen sense of drama and public attention, but apparently no coherent philosophy, no appreciable attention span, no sense of discretion, and little if any administrative ability, it may just have never had a chance, and the battle was already lost a long time ago.

    Brilliant summation! Chinese and Russian historians will debate when the West lost its battle for the next hundred years. (They’ll be the only places where such debate will be permitted.)

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    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    The battle was lost back in 1914, when Edward Grey signed the British Empire's execution warrant.
  28. @eah
    https://twitter.com/MrDarcyRevenge/status/867469674455470081

    The soldiers are there to protect the terrorists.

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  29. @Thomas
    It's bad enough just dealing with hostile courts packed with Obama appointees. It's that much worse when you realize Trump isn't (and, increasingly might not be able to, as his Presidency disintegrates) appoint either judges or executive bureaucrats who could change the course of things, and for some reason isn't making any moves to suspend DACA, or to even slow down refugee visas compared to past years.

    In short: given that the national question had been abandoned into the hands of a 70 year-old celebrity with a keen sense of drama and public attention, but apparently no coherent philosophy, no appreciable attention span, no sense of discretion, and little if any administrative ability, it may just have never had a chance, and the battle was already lost a long time ago. Anyone who cared about the matter probably should have been (and should be now) thinking about "continuity of civilization."

    The Trump administration actually confirmed a judge two hours ago. More are coming: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_judges_appointed_by_Donald_Trump

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    • Replies: @Autochthon
    With more than one hundred vacancies, extrapolating from efforts to date that he nominated and appoints about ten every five months, he should about have all the positions filled by the summer or fall of his last year in office. What a workhorse!

    It's a good thing we didn't elect someone who spends all of his time granddtanding instead of doing the things he's alreafy received an electoral mandate to do....

    I did some similarly basic math about his policies on immigration in these same
    comments anf showed we are on track to be rid of illegal aliens in seventy years or some such, assuming zero new arrivals and ignoring entirely legal immigration (a far greater threat).

    Trump calls to mind a hammy wrestler
    in the WWF or whatever it is nowadays: His victory is assured, but he just cannot resist mugging for the audience whilst his previously prone opponent slowly struggles to his feet, reaches for the dreaded "steel chair!" and then wollops the gloater from behind. The only question remaining is whether the whole business with Trump was also preordained, scripted, and rehearsed.
  30. One wonders if the virtue-signalling judges might find the timing a bit awkward, given that the suicide bomber in Manchester came from a Libyan refugee family.

    How odd that one of the very countries Trump’s EO covered produced so notorious a terrorist, and how odd that the terrorist actually perpetrated his terrorism in the name of Islam.

    I do hope Trump rubs that in. Our “elites” need to be exposed.

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    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    Liberals fear the far-right to a much greater degree than they fear Islamist terrorism.

    The great project of our elites, the Kalergi Plan of demographic displacement, must not be allowed to be stopped by mere voters.
  31. @Thomas
    It's bad enough just dealing with hostile courts packed with Obama appointees. It's that much worse when you realize Trump isn't (and, increasingly might not be able to, as his Presidency disintegrates) appoint either judges or executive bureaucrats who could change the course of things, and for some reason isn't making any moves to suspend DACA, or to even slow down refugee visas compared to past years.

    In short: given that the national question had been abandoned into the hands of a 70 year-old celebrity with a keen sense of drama and public attention, but apparently no coherent philosophy, no appreciable attention span, no sense of discretion, and little if any administrative ability, it may just have never had a chance, and the battle was already lost a long time ago. Anyone who cared about the matter probably should have been (and should be now) thinking about "continuity of civilization."

    You got that right…. sadly.

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  32. @benjaminl
    I didn't even know until I Googled him, that Judge Gregory is black. Sooner or later, I might start Noticing Patterns...

    “…yet stands as an untiring sentinel…”

    The kind of over ripe, half preacher/half scholar-genius type language these ‘black intellectuals’ seem to like.

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  33. @The Anti-Gnostic
    Well, step two is people beginning to ask how many tank battalions the judges have.

    As you can see, many here think the highest form of allowable dissent is a pithy blog comment, even when the unelected mandarins decide bad think is punishable by imprisonment.

    As I said before, pol is a greater barometer of the average mood of Trump voter than THE MOST IMPORTANT BLOG EVER’s commentariat, and they’re gearing up for WWIII.

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    • Agree: BenKenobi
    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    I've actually begun to read /pol/. It's a fascinating landscape.

    Yeah I guess I'm lurking moar.
    , @Autochthon
    What have you been up to, there, Clint Eastwood? I haven't seen footage of you storming the Bastille and manning the barricades on the evening news yet. Is it because you also realise being murderer or imprisoned by the government's goons is futile?

    You're right that it is too late for a poltical solution, however, it is also too soon to be able to kill the bastards yet, either.
    , @Frau Katze
    I desperately want to do something other than write comments here moaning about the problem.

    But I don't know what to do.

    I spent two years working 24/7 for a Canadian blog that deals in Islam, immigration, typical issues. It was depressing to spend so much time reading such grim news.

    I followed and blogged on even international aspects (southern Thai Muslims carry out another attack on Buddhists or Muslims who aren't "with" the cause; in Pakistan the Taliban — or some other Sunni group — blows up a Christian church or a Shiite mosque with dozens killed; Bangladeshi Islamic nutjobs start setting fire to buses and trucks or even derail trains or kill atheists, because they want to usher in an Islamic paradise...etc).

    What can I do in Canada? Shortly after this, a man even stupider than Macron — Justin Trudeau — is elected.

    No party favours immigration restriction. There is no one to vote for. No Marine Le Pen, who lost anyway...

  34. @The Anti-Gnostic
    Well, step two is people beginning to ask how many tank battalions the judges have.

    I think… all of them! Yup. Pretty sure.

    Oh, wait, wait. That’s just blackpilling. Let’s let Purple Muppet weigh in… Jack, tell us again the Good News, the gospel of Trump.

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    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    Your cowardice is affecting you so much you cant even make a sensible response.
  35. The ruling talks of “an Executive Order that in text speaks with vague words of national security, but in context drips with religious intolerance, animus, and discrimination.”

    “vague terms of national security”? I wonder how vague those terms seem to relatives of the 22 people who were killed in Manchester?

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    • Replies: @guest
    What business is it of this judge how vague the wording is?

    Hey, numbnuts, you don't get to decide the level of specificity with which an executive order explains itself. That's up to Congress and the president. If they only have vague notions, that's their business. They can ban everyone who wears red hats if they want.

    That's the silliest thing about this. Trump doesn't need to explicitly lay out the national security threat, though, come on, we all know what it is. It would require blindness of judicial proportions not to see the connection. But anyway, there's no national security rationale necessary. He doesn't need a rationale period. This is a pure policy decision. He could do it arbitrarily if he wants.

    What's going on with the judges is that they're putting forth their policy preference by blocking Trump's. That's all there is to it. They do so first by inventing the right to immigrate on the basis of anti-Muslim discrimination. But also by inventing two standards:

    1) for Trump to require some sort of rational basis on which to restrict immigration (national security in this case

    2) for this rationale to be explained in executive orders in enough detail to satisfy the whims of judges.

    They make these standards up willy-nilly, and ignore the ones they already made up just as willy-nilly. Rampant willy-nilliness.
  36. @Tiny Duck
    If my work over the last 5 yrs has taught me anything it's that white people aren't "uninformed" - what are is WILLFULLY IGNORANT. I used to get into conversations withwhite people who claimed "I'm not racist I just don't understand". We would go back & forth about reality & fiction and ventually we would get to the point where I was able to ask a very simple but telling question. They always told on themselves when I asked "If everything is so "equal" how do you explain the disparities in income, wealth & incarceration rates bet Black & white people?"

    only 2 answers to that ? - either you believe systemic oppression exists or you believe Black People are inherently more criminal than white people.

    All this "we gotta meet white people where they are" - when exactly do we insist that white folks meet People of Color where THEY are?

    We have spent the last 5 yrs doing nothing but pointing out the BLATANT ways white supremacy runs this society. You don't have an excuse.

    I don’t believe blacks are inherently more criminal. I believe they are inherently less intelligent on average and therefore are more likely to make bad decisions like…holding up a liquor store for $50. Or…assaulting someone while in standing in line at Chuck E Cheese because they disrespected you etc. and so on. By the way, I think that makes me a liberal around here.

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    • Replies: @Detective Club
    There is one thing and one thing only that pathetic mooks like Tiny Duck want and that one thing is ATTENTION!
  37. @Tiny Duck
    If my work over the last 5 yrs has taught me anything it's that white people aren't "uninformed" - what are is WILLFULLY IGNORANT. I used to get into conversations withwhite people who claimed "I'm not racist I just don't understand". We would go back & forth about reality & fiction and ventually we would get to the point where I was able to ask a very simple but telling question. They always told on themselves when I asked "If everything is so "equal" how do you explain the disparities in income, wealth & incarceration rates bet Black & white people?"

    only 2 answers to that ? - either you believe systemic oppression exists or you believe Black People are inherently more criminal than white people.

    All this "we gotta meet white people where they are" - when exactly do we insist that white folks meet People of Color where THEY are?

    We have spent the last 5 yrs doing nothing but pointing out the BLATANT ways white supremacy runs this society. You don't have an excuse.

    Its funny, twenty years ago, you go in a McDonald’s, all the staff was Black.

    Today, you can’t find a Black working at a McDonald’s.

    If that’s structural racism, what is the structure “the Man” is using to keep qualified Blacks out of the labor market? What structure is “the Man” using to push Blacks out of Black neighborhoods?

    Is it rednecks with MAGA hats and obscene mudflaps or is it some other force?

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    • Replies: @Sgt. Joe Friday
    Actually, I think that was McDowell's, not McDonald's.
  38. @anon
    no coherent philosophy, no appreciable attention span, no sense of discretion, and little if any administrative ability

    Since this description will be used increasingly in future, I suggest the abbreviation juvenile.

    Since this description will be used increasingly in future, I suggest the abbreviation juvenile.

    Let’s fill it out, analyze, and “unpack” it a little more then:

    No coherent philosophy, no appreciable attention span, no sense of discretion, little if any administrative ability, and sufficiently narcissistic and lacking in proportion that the mere suggestion that anything (like a scurrilous whispering campaign about Russia) takes away from his “landslide victory” drives him into serious, unforced errors.

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  39. Judge Brennan’s 1982 “anchor baby” footnote extended the “privileges and immunities” of US Citizenry to anyone who happened to pop out of a womb and onto US soil. Regan’s 1986 Amnesty extended it to anyone who could place boots on the ground of US soil. These are of the same logical quality as extending it to everyone in the world. Indeed, this principle was voted nearly unanimously into law with the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965 if one takes Hubert Humphrey’s justification for it seriously:

    “We have removed all elements of second-class citizenship from our laws by the [1964] Civil Rights Act,” declared Vice President Hubert Humphrey. “We must in 1965 remove all elements in our immigration law which suggest there are second-class people.”

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/immigration-act-1965/408409/

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  40. @candid_observer
    One wonders if the virtue-signalling judges might find the timing a bit awkward, given that the suicide bomber in Manchester came from a Libyan refugee family.

    How odd that one of the very countries Trump's EO covered produced so notorious a terrorist, and how odd that the terrorist actually perpetrated his terrorism in the name of Islam.

    I do hope Trump rubs that in. Our "elites" need to be exposed.

    Liberals fear the far-right to a much greater degree than they fear Islamist terrorism.

    The great project of our elites, the Kalergi Plan of demographic displacement, must not be allowed to be stopped by mere voters.

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    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "The great project of our elites, the Kalergi Plan of demographic displacement, must not be allowed to be stopped by mere voters."

    This plan is a concoction of your wild imagination. Furthermore, if you are hell bent on stopping things, why not take Vox Day's advice and put it into action.

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/05/mailvox-breivik-saint-or-monster.html
  41. @Diversity Heretic

    In short: given that the national question had been abandoned into the hands of a 70 year-old celebrity with a keen sense of drama and public attention, but apparently no coherent philosophy, no appreciable attention span, no sense of discretion, and little if any administrative ability, it may just have never had a chance, and the battle was already lost a long time ago.
     
    Brilliant summation! Chinese and Russian historians will debate when the West lost its battle for the next hundred years. (They'll be the only places where such debate will be permitted.)

    The battle was lost back in 1914, when Edward Grey signed the British Empire’s execution warrant.

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    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    Or when Germany foolishly gave the Austrians a blank check to invade Serbia.

    But it might well have ended better even so, if Britain had stayed out.

    It's hard to see how it could have been any worse.
  42. Neither the Declaration of Independence nor the federal constitution grants POTUS the authority to bar Abdul or Abu or Ali or Ibrahim or Mohammed or Mustafa from coming to America.

    Neither the Declaration of Independence nor the federal constitution grants POTUS the authority to issue executive orders, in general, or specifically to bar Abdul or Abu or Ali or Ibrahim or Mohammed or Mustafa from coning to America.

    If the rule of law is to mean anything, it must be upheld even when whitey yells and screams that if we don’t throw aside the rule of law brown skinned Islamists will kill us all. The problem is, whitey, long ago eagerly threw aside the rule of law so that he could have empire and all of the goodies that the warfare / welfare state has given him.

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    • Replies: @Forbes
    Troll.
    , @Ironsides
    The "rule of law" does NOT guarantee the Right of Entry to the United States to ONE brown-skinned invader from the land of vest-bombs and burkas. Nor does the Constitution exist to guarantee, hasten, and raise to the status of a frenzied religious principle the political and demographic dispossession of the Founding Fathers' posterity.

    You are claiming that the Constitution exists solely to punish "whitey" for existing and to ensure the complete replacement of "whitey" by alien people who hate the United States, all its freedoms, all its culture, and everything about it -- that the purpose of the Constitution of the United States is to destroy the United States and ensure that the Constitution is replaced and consigned to the garbage heap of history by men of utterly foreign mind.

    That is an insane viewpoint. A nation that exists solely for the purpose of abolishing itself? That's like saying, say, that Japan exists for the sole purpose of importing enough Frenchmen to ensure that the Japanese language, culture, and race is replaced by the French, as quickly as possible.

    , @Abe
    If the rule of law is to mean anything, it must be upheld even when whitey yells and screams that if we don’t throw aside the rule of law brown skinned Islamists will kill us all.

    • Libertardian: Abe

  43. I hadn’t realized how strictly partisan the 10-3 decision was:

    Apparently, Judge Gregory was originally nominated by Clinton, blocked by the Repubs, then renominated by GW Bush as some kind of courtesy.

    Helluva job, Georgie!

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    • Replies: @candid_observer
    As bad as this decision is, and how partisan is its breakdown, imagine what our future would be like if Hillary had been elected.

    The shamelessness of our liberal judiciary in dictating new, unprecedented law is simply frightening. They are the despots of which they warn.

    No matter what else, Trump has spared us this.

  44. If Christians were claiming constitutional protection, I wonder how enthusiastic this Neo-stalinist would be for the First Amendment.

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  45. The fourth circuit federal appeals court was ruling en banc (entire court of active judges) at 10-3. The ruling was 10 Democrat judges over 3 Republican judges. O’Bimbo and Harry Reid (one-eyed Mormon gangster from Las Vegas) packed that fed. appeals circuit during the time-frame of 2009-2015. Open Borders has become high religion among Democrats nowadays.

    The exercise bicycle that attacked Harry Reid was either named Guido or Vito. As a man of 100% Italian ancestry, today is a day when I must hang my head in shame. A WASP Congress passed the 1924 immigration-restriction act in order to keep guys like Guido and Vito out of the country. Is Harry Reid a Mormon in good standing? Just asking!

    On second thought, the Italian exercise bicycle that attacked Harry Reid was doing the United States a good deed when all is said & done.

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  46. @eah
    https://twitter.com/MrDarcyRevenge/status/867469674455470081

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    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I did a rough, back of the envelope calculation based on some figures from a recent article by Gavin about Muslim terrorism; I get about a 16,000-fold greater rate of actual Muslim terrorism to terrorism by white supremacists.

    ~3000 dead from Muslim terrorism in US since Muslims began coming here in significant numbers. 5 dead from white supremacists over same time period

    80 million white males, 3 million Muslim males in US

    600*26.67= 16,002

    You could (and probably Corvinus or Nick Diaz will) play with the numbers a bit to shift them how they want, but no way to get to whitey is worse.

    Yet, white supremacists (and anyone who shares the same skin color with them) are demonized by the left as the worst thing everTM in this country, and we are supposed to be awful deplorables if we don't roll out the carpet for our Koran-toting friends. Its idiotic.
    , @Anonymous
    Your opinion polls are "a well-worn tactic for stigmatizing and demeaning Islam and painting the religion, and its men, as violent and barbaric".

    Put 'em in your EO and hey presto! Unconstitutional!

    https://twitter.com/HeimishCon/status/867897188457881600
  47. @candid_observer
    I hadn't realized how strictly partisan the 10-3 decision was:

    https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status/867837203887554561

    Apparently, Judge Gregory was originally nominated by Clinton, blocked by the Repubs, then renominated by GW Bush as some kind of courtesy.

    Helluva job, Georgie!

    As bad as this decision is, and how partisan is its breakdown, imagine what our future would be like if Hillary had been elected.

    The shamelessness of our liberal judiciary in dictating new, unprecedented law is simply frightening. They are the despots of which they warn.

    No matter what else, Trump has spared us this.

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    • Replies: @eah
    No need to imagine -- you'll experience it soon enough.

    https://twitter.com/jdanver123/status/867836414183981060
  48. @Malcolm X-Lax
    I don't believe blacks are inherently more criminal. I believe they are inherently less intelligent on average and therefore are more likely to make bad decisions like...holding up a liquor store for $50. Or...assaulting someone while in standing in line at Chuck E Cheese because they disrespected you etc. and so on. By the way, I think that makes me a liberal around here.

    There is one thing and one thing only that pathetic mooks like Tiny Duck want and that one thing is ATTENTION!

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    • Agree: Emblematic
    • Replies: @Malcolm X-Lax
    I expect my comment to have an epiphany-like impact on his understanding of racism!
  49. @candid_observer
    As bad as this decision is, and how partisan is its breakdown, imagine what our future would be like if Hillary had been elected.

    The shamelessness of our liberal judiciary in dictating new, unprecedented law is simply frightening. They are the despots of which they warn.

    No matter what else, Trump has spared us this.

    No need to imagine — you’ll experience it soon enough.

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    • Replies: @Ivy
    Well there goes that old Canadian Border Proximity chestnut, now that Washington and anew York have succumbed.

    The Justice's irreparable harm will manifest itself in ways that he doesn't anticipate.

  50. @Tulip
    Its funny, twenty years ago, you go in a McDonald's, all the staff was Black.

    Today, you can't find a Black working at a McDonald's.

    If that's structural racism, what is the structure "the Man" is using to keep qualified Blacks out of the labor market? What structure is "the Man" using to push Blacks out of Black neighborhoods?

    Is it rednecks with MAGA hats and obscene mudflaps or is it some other force?

    Actually, I think that was McDowell’s, not McDonald’s.

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  51. Tulip – Absolutely right about McDonalds . I DID work there 20 years ago and the demographics of the place was about 1/3 White , 1/3 Black , 1/3 Hispanic . That McDonalds now is completely Hispanic and they’re all from other countries . And they’re mostly older than high school kids.

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  52. @eah
    No need to imagine -- you'll experience it soon enough.

    https://twitter.com/jdanver123/status/867836414183981060

    Well there goes that old Canadian Border Proximity chestnut, now that Washington and anew York have succumbed.

    The Justice’s irreparable harm will manifest itself in ways that he doesn’t anticipate.

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  53. Regarding this ruling – Islam , which believes killing in the name of is acceptable , gets treated the same as other religions , most notably Christianity , which don’t . This is INSANE .

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  54. @benjaminl
    I didn't even know until I Googled him, that Judge Gregory is black. Sooner or later, I might start Noticing Patterns...

    I didn’t google him but I knew he was black by his writing. It’s quite emotive for a higher court judge. Thanks for confirming though.

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  55. @for-the-record
    No legal scholar am I, but the language

    "in text speaks with vague words of national security, but in context drips with religious intolerance, animus, and discrimination"
     
    certainly strikes me as highly atypical of the court judgments with which I am familiar, which normally are extraordinarily soporific even when far-reaching. Has this now become the judicial norm in the new Age of Enlightenment?

    The only relevant drips are those who wrote this asshole opinion

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  56. Here’s your problem:

    Amici Supporting Appellants,
    INTERFAITH COALITION; COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES; T.A.;
    COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA; STATE OF MARYLAND; STATE OF
    CALIFORNIA; STATE OF CONNECTICUT; STATE OF DELAWARE; STATE
    OF ILLINOIS; STATE OF IOWA; STATE OF MAINE; STATE OF
    MASSACHUSETTS; STATE OF NEW MEXICO; STATE OF NEW YORK;
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    ISLAND; STATE OF VERMONT; STATE OF WASHINGTON; DISTRICT OF
    COLUMBIA; CITY OF CHICAGO; CITY OF LOS ANGELES; CITY OF NEW
    YORK; CITY OF PHILADELPHIA; CITY COUNCIL OF NEW YORK;
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    BOSTON; MARTIN J. WALSH, Mayor of Boston; TOWN OF CARRBORO;
    JAMES A. DIOSSA, Mayor of Central Falls, Rhode Island; COOK COUTNY,
    ILLINOIS; CITY OF GARY; CITY OF IOWA CITY; SVANTE L. MYRICK,
    Mayor of Ithaca; CITY OF JERSEY CITY; CITY OF MADISON; CITY OF
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    N. HARP, Mayor of New Haven; CITY OF OAKLAND; CITY OF PORTLAND;
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    CLERGY; RIVERSIDE CHURCH IN THE CITY OF NEW YORK;
    AMERICANS UNITED FOR SEPARATION OF CHURCH & STATE; BEND
    THE ARC; A JEWISH PARTNERSHIP FOR JUSTICE; SOUTHERN POVERTY
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    NEW YORK UNIVERSITY; RODERICK & SOLANGE MACARTHUR
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    OF CHILDREN; ADVOCATES FOR HUMAN RIGHTS; ASIAN LAW
    ALLIANCE; ASIAN PACIFIC AMERICAN NETWORK OF OREGON; CASA;
    COMMUNITY REFUGEE & IMMIGRATION SERVICES; INTEGRATED
    REFUGEE & IMMIGRANT SERVICES; IMMIGRANT LAW CENTER OF
    MINNESOTA; SOUTHEAST ASIA RESOURCE ACTION CENTER;
    IMMIGRANT RIGHTS CLINIC OF WASHINGTON; SQUARE LEGAL
    SERVICES, INC.; AIRPORT ATTORNEYS COALITION,
    Amici Supporting Appellees.

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    • Replies: @Sgt. Joe Friday
    Your tax dollars at work folks. Jerry Brown calls the taxpayers of California who don't want to fork over $52 billion in new taxes "freeloaders," while spending our tax dollars to import actual freeloaders.

    I think Steve's analogy about a company's duty to its current shareholders is particularly apt here. Our government at all levels is not only failing to protect its "shareholders" interests, it's giving special privileges to people who are not even invested, and who the current shareholders would keep out, if given a say in the matter.
    , @Ivy
    Amici? Given the undercurrents, Amigos could be a new Court term.
  57. @Detective Club
    There is one thing and one thing only that pathetic mooks like Tiny Duck want and that one thing is ATTENTION!

    I expect my comment to have an epiphany-like impact on his understanding of racism!

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  58. @anon
    Fact is, Trump is contemptuous towards judiciary (not aware or unwilling to accept that it is a separate branch of the government) and the judiciary is paying back (may be with compound interest). As a bonus, for the Constitutional traditionalists, this trims the wings of presidency a bit and shifts the power over to Congress. If Trump had better advisers, they would have cautioned him against going the executive order route and go the traditional legislative way. That would have made it much harder for a any one district court to rule unconstitutional since there would be Congressional record to back it up. But Trump loves the drama of imperial fiat not realizing how shallow that proclamation is. Expect many more political defeats for the juvenile presidency.

    Legislative action would have been shot down just as fast as executive order. Judges have decided they rule this country, and any decisions they make are backed by whatever thin rationalization gets the result they want. The judiciary has carried out a coup d’etat, and passing a law to block immigration would have just taken longer and then had the same result, judges would have overturned it.The question will eventually become does the nation allow itself to be ruled by unelected judges, plutocrats, professors and media mavens and if not, what’s the way out.

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    • Replies: @Desiderius
    10 work for the Empire, 3 for the Nation, and they voted accordingly.

    Given the usual dominance of the Empire in the corridors of power, 3 out of 13 isn't a bad start.
    , @epebble
    There have been only 7 cases where an immigration related law was ruled unconstitutional. Most recently, INS v. Chadha, 462 U.S. 919 (1983). Previous cases dealt with loss of Citizenship. It requires a lot of persuasion and political capital to get anything through Congress; but the results are firmer than an executive order. Look how hard it is to "repeal and replace" Obamacare. (I am quite confident there won't be one in this administration). Heck, we haven't passed a budget in ordinary manner in a while. (mostly continuing resolutions, sequestrations, Paygo etc., trickery).
    , @tteclod
    https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2017/05/25/here-comes-the-constitutional-crisis-and-you-can-thank-a-shitlib-judge-for-bringing-it-on/#comment-880771
  59. “…that stands to cause irreparable harm to individuals across this nation…”

    Which individuals are those, since the only individuals in question are people who aren’t in this country and aren’t citizens?

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  60. I don’t know why African Americans think that open borders and mass immigration will improve their social and economic standing … other than increasing the ever-growing demographic expressing an emotional disdain for Whites and Western Civilization.

    Ironically, African Americans are now being increasingly fractionalized and marginalized by the social practices originally intended to elevate their social and economic status. As a negative correlation, there has been a new and growing tier of new arrivals acting to keep them in their place. African Americans remain at the bottom with a progressively decreasing chance of improving their social and economic standing with the White community.

    African Americans are finding themselves being systematically pushed out of jobs, neighborhoods, and “gifting” opportunities (affirmative action) by the new immigrants. It’s all in the numbers. At one time, African Americans were the only recipients of affirmative action and racial/ethnic quotas. Then came the White feminists with their gender issues. Then came the tsunami of peoples from Asia, Mexico, Central America, MENA, the Caribbean, and, yes, sub-Saharan Africa with the same, all-embracing list of grievances against White society. There is only so much “gifting” that to go around before the quotas are filled and/or the entire edifice collapses.

    As a measure of self-interest, one would think that African Americans would get smart and ally with Whites to close our borders to the foreign invaders.

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    • Replies: @Almost Missouri

    "As a measure of self-interest, one would think that African Americans would get smart and ally with Whites to close our borders to the foreign invaders."
     
    As a measure of self-interest, one would think that, yes. As measured by experience, though ... alas.

    Some blacks do understand that that role of brown immigrants is to displace them. But so many blacks are so accustomed to measure their self-interest as simply whatever hurts whitey, they can't un-habituate themselves now.

    We're about three generations into the black bourgeoisie gaining its perceived comfort by channeling anti-white animus into whatever the Dem plantation owners tell them to. Even if someone were in a position to pay them to leave the Dem plantation (which no one is and no one will ever be: official and unofficial value transfers to blacks are $hundreds of billions annually), it would still take generations to change the culture. There isn't that much time.

    tl;dr: Don't count on the black vote to derail the immivasion train.
    , @Ed
    African-Americans aren't that smart, that's why.
  61. @Chrisnonymous
    I think... all of them! Yup. Pretty sure.

    Oh, wait, wait. That's just blackpilling. Let's let Purple Muppet weigh in... Jack, tell us again the Good News, the gospel of Trump.

    Your cowardice is affecting you so much you cant even make a sensible response.

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  62. @Alfa158
    Legislative action would have been shot down just as fast as executive order. Judges have decided they rule this country, and any decisions they make are backed by whatever thin rationalization gets the result they want. The judiciary has carried out a coup d'etat, and passing a law to block immigration would have just taken longer and then had the same result, judges would have overturned it.The question will eventually become does the nation allow itself to be ruled by unelected judges, plutocrats, professors and media mavens and if not, what's the way out.

    10 work for the Empire, 3 for the Nation, and they voted accordingly.

    Given the usual dominance of the Empire in the corridors of power, 3 out of 13 isn’t a bad start.

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  63. @Desiderius
    Here's your problem:

    Amici Supporting Appellants,
    INTERFAITH COALITION; COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES; T.A.;
    COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA; STATE OF MARYLAND; STATE OF
    CALIFORNIA; STATE OF CONNECTICUT; STATE OF DELAWARE; STATE
    OF ILLINOIS; STATE OF IOWA; STATE OF MAINE; STATE OF
    MASSACHUSETTS; STATE OF NEW MEXICO; STATE OF NEW YORK;
    STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA; STATE OF OREGON; STATE OF RHODE
    ISLAND; STATE OF VERMONT; STATE OF WASHINGTON; DISTRICT OF
    COLUMBIA; CITY OF CHICAGO; CITY OF LOS ANGELES; CITY OF NEW
    YORK; CITY OF PHILADELPHIA; CITY COUNCIL OF NEW YORK;
    MAYOR OF THE CITY OF NEW YORK; CITY OF AUSTIN; CITY OF
    BOSTON; MARTIN J. WALSH, Mayor of Boston; TOWN OF CARRBORO;
    JAMES A. DIOSSA, Mayor of Central Falls, Rhode Island; COOK COUTNY,
    ILLINOIS; CITY OF GARY; CITY OF IOWA CITY; SVANTE L. MYRICK,
    Mayor of Ithaca; CITY OF JERSEY CITY; CITY OF MADISON; CITY OF
    MINNEAPOLIS; MONTGOMERY COUNTY; CITY OF NEW HAVEN; TONI
    N. HARP, Mayor of New Haven; CITY OF OAKLAND; CITY OF PORTLAND;
    CITY OF PROVIDENCE; JORGE O. ELORZA, Mayor of Providence; CITY OF
    ST. LOUIS; CITY OF SAINT PAUL; CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO; COUNTY
    OF SAN FRANCISCO; CITY OF SAN JOSE; SANTA CLARA COUNTY; CITY
    OF SANTA MONICA; CITY OF SEATTLE; VILLAGE OF SKOKIE; CITY OF
    SOUTH BEND; CITY OF TUCSON; CITY OF WEST HOLLYWOOD;
    FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY OFFICIALS; MEMBERS OF THE
    CLERGY; RIVERSIDE CHURCH IN THE CITY OF NEW YORK;
    AMERICANS UNITED FOR SEPARATION OF CHURCH & STATE; BEND
    THE ARC; A JEWISH PARTNERSHIP FOR JUSTICE; SOUTHERN POVERTY
    LAW CENTER; AMERICAN-ARAB ANTI-DISCRIMINATION COMMITTEE;
    NEW YORK UNIVERSITY; RODERICK & SOLANGE MACARTHUR
    JUSTICE CENTER; HOWARD UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF LAW CIVIL
    RIGHTS CLINIC; UNIVERSITY PROFESSORS & HIGHER EDUCATION
    ASSOCIATIONS; INTERNATIONAL LAW SCHOLARS;
    NONGOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS; ISMAIL ELSHIKH; ANTDEFAMATION
    LEAGUE; JEWISH COUNCIL FOR PUCLIC AFFAIRS;
    UNION FOR REFORM JUDAISM; CENTRAL CONFERENCE OF AMERICAN
    RABBIS; WOMEN OF REFORM JUDAISM; AMERICAN BAR
    ASSOCIATION; MUSLIM JUSTICE LEAGUE; MUSLIM PUBLIC AFFAIRS
    COUNCIL; ISLAMIC CIRCLE OF NORTH AMERICA; COUNCIL ON
    AMERICAN-ISLAMIC RELATIONS; ASIAN AMERICANS ADVANCING
    JUSTICE-ASIAN LAW CAUCUS; NATIONAL IMMIGRANT JUSTICE
    3
    CENTER; ASISTA; AMERICANS FOR IMMIGRANT JUSTICE; FUTURES
    WITHOUT VIOLENCE; NORTH CAROLINA COALITION AGAINST
    DOMESTIC VIOLENCE; SANCTUARY FOR FAMILIES; MEMBERS OF
    CONGRESS; SERVICE EMPLOYEES INTERNATIONAL UNION;
    AMERICAN FEDERATION OF STATE,COUNTY & MUNICIPAL
    EMPLOYEES, AMERICAN FEDERATION OF TEACHERS; HISTORY
    PROFESSORS & SCHOLARS; LAWYERS' COMMITTEE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS
    UNDER LAW; CENTER FOR REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS; SOUTHERN
    COALITION FOR SOCIAL JUSTICE; NATIONAL CENTER FOR LESBIAN
    RIGHTS; JUDGE DAVID L. BAZELTON CENTER FOR MENTAL HEALTH
    LAW; CHICAGO LAWYERS' COMMITTEE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS UNDER
    LAW; MISSISSIPPI CENTER FOR JUSTICE; WASHINGTON LAWYERS'
    COMMITTEE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS AND URBAN AFFAIRS; TECHNOLOGY
    COMPANIES; FRED T. KOREMATSU CENTER FOR LAW & EQUALITY;
    JAY HIRABAYASHI; HOLLY YASUI; KAREN KOREMATSU; CIVIL
    RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS; NATIONAL BAR ASSOCIATIONS OF COLOR;
    FOUNDATION FOR THE CHILDREN OF IRAN; IRANIAN ALLIANCES
    ACROSS BORDERS; MASSACHUSETTS TECHNOLOGY LEADERSHIP
    COUNCIL; EPISCOPAL BISHOPS; IMMIGRATION LAW SCHOLARS &
    CLINICIANS ON STATUTORY CLAIMS; FORMER FEDERAL
    IMMIGRATION & HOMELAND SECURITY OFFICIALS;
    CONSTITUTIONAL LAW SCHOLARS; MEDICAL INSTITUTIONS;
    ADVOCACY ORGANIZATIONS; INDIVIDUAL PHYSICIANS; TAHIRIH
    JUSTICE CENTER; ASIAN PACIFIC INSTITUTE ON GENDER-BASED
    VIOLENCE; CASA DE ESPERANZA; NATIONAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
    HOTLINE; INTERFAITH GROUP OF RELIGIOUS & INTERRELIGIOUS
    ORGANIZATIONS; OXFAM AMERICA, INC.; CONSTITUTIONAL LAW
    PROFESSORS; AMERICAN JEWISH COMMITTEE; MUSLIM RIGHTS,
    PROFESSIONAL & PUBLIC HEALTH ORGANIZATIONS; CATO
    INSTITUTE; NATIONAL ASSIAN PACIFIC AMERICAN BAR
    ASSOCIATION; ASSOCIATION OF ART MUSEUM DIRECTORS;
    AMERICAN ALLIANCE OF MUSEUMS; COLLEGE ART ASSOCIATION; 94
    ART MUSEUMS; AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL SOCIETY ON THE ABUSE
    OF CHILDREN; ADVOCATES FOR HUMAN RIGHTS; ASIAN LAW
    ALLIANCE; ASIAN PACIFIC AMERICAN NETWORK OF OREGON; CASA;
    COMMUNITY REFUGEE & IMMIGRATION SERVICES; INTEGRATED
    REFUGEE & IMMIGRANT SERVICES; IMMIGRANT LAW CENTER OF
    MINNESOTA; SOUTHEAST ASIA RESOURCE ACTION CENTER;
    IMMIGRANT RIGHTS CLINIC OF WASHINGTON; SQUARE LEGAL
    SERVICES, INC.; AIRPORT ATTORNEYS COALITION,
    Amici Supporting Appellees.

    Your tax dollars at work folks. Jerry Brown calls the taxpayers of California who don’t want to fork over $52 billion in new taxes “freeloaders,” while spending our tax dollars to import actual freeloaders.

    I think Steve’s analogy about a company’s duty to its current shareholders is particularly apt here. Our government at all levels is not only failing to protect its “shareholders” interests, it’s giving special privileges to people who are not even invested, and who the current shareholders would keep out, if given a say in the matter.

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  64. @Desiderius
    Here's your problem:

    Amici Supporting Appellants,
    INTERFAITH COALITION; COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES; T.A.;
    COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA; STATE OF MARYLAND; STATE OF
    CALIFORNIA; STATE OF CONNECTICUT; STATE OF DELAWARE; STATE
    OF ILLINOIS; STATE OF IOWA; STATE OF MAINE; STATE OF
    MASSACHUSETTS; STATE OF NEW MEXICO; STATE OF NEW YORK;
    STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA; STATE OF OREGON; STATE OF RHODE
    ISLAND; STATE OF VERMONT; STATE OF WASHINGTON; DISTRICT OF
    COLUMBIA; CITY OF CHICAGO; CITY OF LOS ANGELES; CITY OF NEW
    YORK; CITY OF PHILADELPHIA; CITY COUNCIL OF NEW YORK;
    MAYOR OF THE CITY OF NEW YORK; CITY OF AUSTIN; CITY OF
    BOSTON; MARTIN J. WALSH, Mayor of Boston; TOWN OF CARRBORO;
    JAMES A. DIOSSA, Mayor of Central Falls, Rhode Island; COOK COUTNY,
    ILLINOIS; CITY OF GARY; CITY OF IOWA CITY; SVANTE L. MYRICK,
    Mayor of Ithaca; CITY OF JERSEY CITY; CITY OF MADISON; CITY OF
    MINNEAPOLIS; MONTGOMERY COUNTY; CITY OF NEW HAVEN; TONI
    N. HARP, Mayor of New Haven; CITY OF OAKLAND; CITY OF PORTLAND;
    CITY OF PROVIDENCE; JORGE O. ELORZA, Mayor of Providence; CITY OF
    ST. LOUIS; CITY OF SAINT PAUL; CITY OF SAN FRANCISCO; COUNTY
    OF SAN FRANCISCO; CITY OF SAN JOSE; SANTA CLARA COUNTY; CITY
    OF SANTA MONICA; CITY OF SEATTLE; VILLAGE OF SKOKIE; CITY OF
    SOUTH BEND; CITY OF TUCSON; CITY OF WEST HOLLYWOOD;
    FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY OFFICIALS; MEMBERS OF THE
    CLERGY; RIVERSIDE CHURCH IN THE CITY OF NEW YORK;
    AMERICANS UNITED FOR SEPARATION OF CHURCH & STATE; BEND
    THE ARC; A JEWISH PARTNERSHIP FOR JUSTICE; SOUTHERN POVERTY
    LAW CENTER; AMERICAN-ARAB ANTI-DISCRIMINATION COMMITTEE;
    NEW YORK UNIVERSITY; RODERICK & SOLANGE MACARTHUR
    JUSTICE CENTER; HOWARD UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF LAW CIVIL
    RIGHTS CLINIC; UNIVERSITY PROFESSORS & HIGHER EDUCATION
    ASSOCIATIONS; INTERNATIONAL LAW SCHOLARS;
    NONGOVERNMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS; ISMAIL ELSHIKH; ANTDEFAMATION
    LEAGUE; JEWISH COUNCIL FOR PUCLIC AFFAIRS;
    UNION FOR REFORM JUDAISM; CENTRAL CONFERENCE OF AMERICAN
    RABBIS; WOMEN OF REFORM JUDAISM; AMERICAN BAR
    ASSOCIATION; MUSLIM JUSTICE LEAGUE; MUSLIM PUBLIC AFFAIRS
    COUNCIL; ISLAMIC CIRCLE OF NORTH AMERICA; COUNCIL ON
    AMERICAN-ISLAMIC RELATIONS; ASIAN AMERICANS ADVANCING
    JUSTICE-ASIAN LAW CAUCUS; NATIONAL IMMIGRANT JUSTICE
    3
    CENTER; ASISTA; AMERICANS FOR IMMIGRANT JUSTICE; FUTURES
    WITHOUT VIOLENCE; NORTH CAROLINA COALITION AGAINST
    DOMESTIC VIOLENCE; SANCTUARY FOR FAMILIES; MEMBERS OF
    CONGRESS; SERVICE EMPLOYEES INTERNATIONAL UNION;
    AMERICAN FEDERATION OF STATE,COUNTY & MUNICIPAL
    EMPLOYEES, AMERICAN FEDERATION OF TEACHERS; HISTORY
    PROFESSORS & SCHOLARS; LAWYERS' COMMITTEE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS
    UNDER LAW; CENTER FOR REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS; SOUTHERN
    COALITION FOR SOCIAL JUSTICE; NATIONAL CENTER FOR LESBIAN
    RIGHTS; JUDGE DAVID L. BAZELTON CENTER FOR MENTAL HEALTH
    LAW; CHICAGO LAWYERS' COMMITTEE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS UNDER
    LAW; MISSISSIPPI CENTER FOR JUSTICE; WASHINGTON LAWYERS'
    COMMITTEE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS AND URBAN AFFAIRS; TECHNOLOGY
    COMPANIES; FRED T. KOREMATSU CENTER FOR LAW & EQUALITY;
    JAY HIRABAYASHI; HOLLY YASUI; KAREN KOREMATSU; CIVIL
    RIGHTS ORGANIZATIONS; NATIONAL BAR ASSOCIATIONS OF COLOR;
    FOUNDATION FOR THE CHILDREN OF IRAN; IRANIAN ALLIANCES
    ACROSS BORDERS; MASSACHUSETTS TECHNOLOGY LEADERSHIP
    COUNCIL; EPISCOPAL BISHOPS; IMMIGRATION LAW SCHOLARS &
    CLINICIANS ON STATUTORY CLAIMS; FORMER FEDERAL
    IMMIGRATION & HOMELAND SECURITY OFFICIALS;
    CONSTITUTIONAL LAW SCHOLARS; MEDICAL INSTITUTIONS;
    ADVOCACY ORGANIZATIONS; INDIVIDUAL PHYSICIANS; TAHIRIH
    JUSTICE CENTER; ASIAN PACIFIC INSTITUTE ON GENDER-BASED
    VIOLENCE; CASA DE ESPERANZA; NATIONAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
    HOTLINE; INTERFAITH GROUP OF RELIGIOUS & INTERRELIGIOUS
    ORGANIZATIONS; OXFAM AMERICA, INC.; CONSTITUTIONAL LAW
    PROFESSORS; AMERICAN JEWISH COMMITTEE; MUSLIM RIGHTS,
    PROFESSIONAL & PUBLIC HEALTH ORGANIZATIONS; CATO
    INSTITUTE; NATIONAL ASSIAN PACIFIC AMERICAN BAR
    ASSOCIATION; ASSOCIATION OF ART MUSEUM DIRECTORS;
    AMERICAN ALLIANCE OF MUSEUMS; COLLEGE ART ASSOCIATION; 94
    ART MUSEUMS; AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL SOCIETY ON THE ABUSE
    OF CHILDREN; ADVOCATES FOR HUMAN RIGHTS; ASIAN LAW
    ALLIANCE; ASIAN PACIFIC AMERICAN NETWORK OF OREGON; CASA;
    COMMUNITY REFUGEE & IMMIGRATION SERVICES; INTEGRATED
    REFUGEE & IMMIGRANT SERVICES; IMMIGRANT LAW CENTER OF
    MINNESOTA; SOUTHEAST ASIA RESOURCE ACTION CENTER;
    IMMIGRANT RIGHTS CLINIC OF WASHINGTON; SQUARE LEGAL
    SERVICES, INC.; AIRPORT ATTORNEYS COALITION,
    Amici Supporting Appellees.

    Amici? Given the undercurrents, Amigos could be a new Court term.

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  65. @Tiny Duck
    If my work over the last 5 yrs has taught me anything it's that white people aren't "uninformed" - what are is WILLFULLY IGNORANT. I used to get into conversations withwhite people who claimed "I'm not racist I just don't understand". We would go back & forth about reality & fiction and ventually we would get to the point where I was able to ask a very simple but telling question. They always told on themselves when I asked "If everything is so "equal" how do you explain the disparities in income, wealth & incarceration rates bet Black & white people?"

    only 2 answers to that ? - either you believe systemic oppression exists or you believe Black People are inherently more criminal than white people.

    All this "we gotta meet white people where they are" - when exactly do we insist that white folks meet People of Color where THEY are?

    We have spent the last 5 yrs doing nothing but pointing out the BLATANT ways white supremacy runs this society. You don't have an excuse.

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz………..

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  66. @jimbojones
    Presumably as many as are available to the United States Army. US troops are sworn to defend the constitution. But the judges get to decide what the constitution means.

    No they do not. Not every judge is a Supreme Court Justice and absolutely none of them are legislators.

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  67. @LibertyMike
    Neither the Declaration of Independence nor the federal constitution grants POTUS the authority to bar Abdul or Abu or Ali or Ibrahim or Mohammed or Mustafa from coming to America.

    Neither the Declaration of Independence nor the federal constitution grants POTUS the authority to issue executive orders, in general, or specifically to bar Abdul or Abu or Ali or Ibrahim or Mohammed or Mustafa from coning to America.

    If the rule of law is to mean anything, it must be upheld even when whitey yells and screams that if we don't throw aside the rule of law brown skinned Islamists will kill us all. The problem is, whitey, long ago eagerly threw aside the rule of law so that he could have empire and all of the goodies that the warfare / welfare state has given him.

    Troll.

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  68. @anon
    Fact is, Trump is contemptuous towards judiciary (not aware or unwilling to accept that it is a separate branch of the government) and the judiciary is paying back (may be with compound interest). As a bonus, for the Constitutional traditionalists, this trims the wings of presidency a bit and shifts the power over to Congress. If Trump had better advisers, they would have cautioned him against going the executive order route and go the traditional legislative way. That would have made it much harder for a any one district court to rule unconstitutional since there would be Congressional record to back it up. But Trump loves the drama of imperial fiat not realizing how shallow that proclamation is. Expect many more political defeats for the juvenile presidency.

    “this trims the wings of presidency a bit and shifts the power over to Congress.”

    No. Judge [sic] Gregory claims to be acting in the name of the Constitution, not Congress. Had Congress restricted immigration in a way he didn’t like, he would have overturned that too.

    “That would have made it much harder for a any one district court to rule unconstitutional since there would be Congressional record to back it up.”

    No. For same reason.

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  69. @Jack Hanson
    As you can see, many here think the highest form of allowable dissent is a pithy blog comment, even when the unelected mandarins decide bad think is punishable by imprisonment.

    As I said before, pol is a greater barometer of the average mood of Trump voter than THE MOST IMPORTANT BLOG EVER's commentariat, and they're gearing up for WWIII.

    I’ve actually begun to read /pol/. It’s a fascinating landscape.

    Yeah I guess I’m lurking moar.

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  70. @Alfa158
    Legislative action would have been shot down just as fast as executive order. Judges have decided they rule this country, and any decisions they make are backed by whatever thin rationalization gets the result they want. The judiciary has carried out a coup d'etat, and passing a law to block immigration would have just taken longer and then had the same result, judges would have overturned it.The question will eventually become does the nation allow itself to be ruled by unelected judges, plutocrats, professors and media mavens and if not, what's the way out.

    There have been only 7 cases where an immigration related law was ruled unconstitutional. Most recently, INS v. Chadha, 462 U.S. 919 (1983). Previous cases dealt with loss of Citizenship. It requires a lot of persuasion and political capital to get anything through Congress; but the results are firmer than an executive order. Look how hard it is to “repeal and replace” Obamacare. (I am quite confident there won’t be one in this administration). Heck, we haven’t passed a budget in ordinary manner in a while. (mostly continuing resolutions, sequestrations, Paygo etc., trickery).

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    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Your analogy is inapposite. The correct rhetorical statelent is: "Look how long it took fir the federal supreme court to approve Obamacare's explcit violations of clear language in the federal constitution."
  71. @TheJester
    I don't know why African Americans think that open borders and mass immigration will improve their social and economic standing ... other than increasing the ever-growing demographic expressing an emotional disdain for Whites and Western Civilization.

    Ironically, African Americans are now being increasingly fractionalized and marginalized by the social practices originally intended to elevate their social and economic status. As a negative correlation, there has been a new and growing tier of new arrivals acting to keep them in their place. African Americans remain at the bottom with a progressively decreasing chance of improving their social and economic standing with the White community.

    African Americans are finding themselves being systematically pushed out of jobs, neighborhoods, and "gifting" opportunities (affirmative action) by the new immigrants. It's all in the numbers. At one time, African Americans were the only recipients of affirmative action and racial/ethnic quotas. Then came the White feminists with their gender issues. Then came the tsunami of peoples from Asia, Mexico, Central America, MENA, the Caribbean, and, yes, sub-Saharan Africa with the same, all-embracing list of grievances against White society. There is only so much "gifting" that to go around before the quotas are filled and/or the entire edifice collapses.

    As a measure of self-interest, one would think that African Americans would get smart and ally with Whites to close our borders to the foreign invaders.

    “As a measure of self-interest, one would think that African Americans would get smart and ally with Whites to close our borders to the foreign invaders.”

    As a measure of self-interest, one would think that, yes. As measured by experience, though … alas.

    Some blacks do understand that that role of brown immigrants is to displace them. But so many blacks are so accustomed to measure their self-interest as simply whatever hurts whitey, they can’t un-habituate themselves now.

    We’re about three generations into the black bourgeoisie gaining its perceived comfort by channeling anti-white animus into whatever the Dem plantation owners tell them to. Even if someone were in a position to pay them to leave the Dem plantation (which no one is and no one will ever be: official and unofficial value transfers to blacks are $hundreds of billions annually), it would still take generations to change the culture. There isn’t that much time.

    tl;dr: Don’t count on the black vote to derail the immivasion train.

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  72. @LibertyMike
    Neither the Declaration of Independence nor the federal constitution grants POTUS the authority to bar Abdul or Abu or Ali or Ibrahim or Mohammed or Mustafa from coming to America.

    Neither the Declaration of Independence nor the federal constitution grants POTUS the authority to issue executive orders, in general, or specifically to bar Abdul or Abu or Ali or Ibrahim or Mohammed or Mustafa from coning to America.

    If the rule of law is to mean anything, it must be upheld even when whitey yells and screams that if we don't throw aside the rule of law brown skinned Islamists will kill us all. The problem is, whitey, long ago eagerly threw aside the rule of law so that he could have empire and all of the goodies that the warfare / welfare state has given him.

    The “rule of law” does NOT guarantee the Right of Entry to the United States to ONE brown-skinned invader from the land of vest-bombs and burkas. Nor does the Constitution exist to guarantee, hasten, and raise to the status of a frenzied religious principle the political and demographic dispossession of the Founding Fathers’ posterity.

    You are claiming that the Constitution exists solely to punish “whitey” for existing and to ensure the complete replacement of “whitey” by alien people who hate the United States, all its freedoms, all its culture, and everything about it — that the purpose of the Constitution of the United States is to destroy the United States and ensure that the Constitution is replaced and consigned to the garbage heap of history by men of utterly foreign mind.

    That is an insane viewpoint. A nation that exists solely for the purpose of abolishing itself? That’s like saying, say, that Japan exists for the sole purpose of importing enough Frenchmen to ensure that the Japanese language, culture, and race is replaced by the French, as quickly as possible.

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    • Replies: @rw95
    Not all whites are American.

    It's time to come to terms with this.

    By letting in the Slavs, Meds and Irish, you opened the doors for immigration of Asians, Indians and Africans.
  73. @anon
    Fact is, Trump is contemptuous towards judiciary (not aware or unwilling to accept that it is a separate branch of the government) and the judiciary is paying back (may be with compound interest). As a bonus, for the Constitutional traditionalists, this trims the wings of presidency a bit and shifts the power over to Congress. If Trump had better advisers, they would have cautioned him against going the executive order route and go the traditional legislative way. That would have made it much harder for a any one district court to rule unconstitutional since there would be Congressional record to back it up. But Trump loves the drama of imperial fiat not realizing how shallow that proclamation is. Expect many more political defeats for the juvenile presidency.

    “Trump is contemptuous towards judiciary”

    He’s been contemptuous of specific judges. I don’t know if he’s contemptuous of the judiciary as a whole, or anymore than he is of the rest of the Swamp. If he is, that contempt has thus far only showed in occasional badmouthing.

    I realize “contempt” is a big thing with judges, but they don’t control what people say about them outside the courtroom. Certainly their dignity (or lackthereof) doesn’t put them beyond criticism.

    “shifts the power over to Congress”

    Hello! Congress already gave their power to the president. Without an “unless it affects Muslims” clause.

    “to accept that it is a separate branch of the government”

    Who’s not accepting what, now? It’s apparent to me that judges are usurping the power of both Congress and the president. Those are separate branches, hey.

    “the judiciary is paying back”

    Paying back what? Trump’s campaign rhetoric? Some tweets? That’s the Constitutional role of the judiciary in your mind: hamstringing the president for saying bad stuff about your peeps?

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  74. @candid_observer
    The ruling talks of "an Executive Order that in text speaks with vague words of national security, but in context drips with religious intolerance, animus, and discrimination."

    "vague terms of national security"? I wonder how vague those terms seem to relatives of the 22 people who were killed in Manchester?

    What business is it of this judge how vague the wording is?

    Hey, numbnuts, you don’t get to decide the level of specificity with which an executive order explains itself. That’s up to Congress and the president. If they only have vague notions, that’s their business. They can ban everyone who wears red hats if they want.

    That’s the silliest thing about this. Trump doesn’t need to explicitly lay out the national security threat, though, come on, we all know what it is. It would require blindness of judicial proportions not to see the connection. But anyway, there’s no national security rationale necessary. He doesn’t need a rationale period. This is a pure policy decision. He could do it arbitrarily if he wants.

    What’s going on with the judges is that they’re putting forth their policy preference by blocking Trump’s. That’s all there is to it. They do so first by inventing the right to immigrate on the basis of anti-Muslim discrimination. But also by inventing two standards:

    1) for Trump to require some sort of rational basis on which to restrict immigration (national security in this case

    2) for this rationale to be explained in executive orders in enough detail to satisfy the whims of judges.

    They make these standards up willy-nilly, and ignore the ones they already made up just as willy-nilly. Rampant willy-nilliness.

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  75. @LibertyMike
    Neither the Declaration of Independence nor the federal constitution grants POTUS the authority to bar Abdul or Abu or Ali or Ibrahim or Mohammed or Mustafa from coming to America.

    Neither the Declaration of Independence nor the federal constitution grants POTUS the authority to issue executive orders, in general, or specifically to bar Abdul or Abu or Ali or Ibrahim or Mohammed or Mustafa from coning to America.

    If the rule of law is to mean anything, it must be upheld even when whitey yells and screams that if we don't throw aside the rule of law brown skinned Islamists will kill us all. The problem is, whitey, long ago eagerly threw aside the rule of law so that he could have empire and all of the goodies that the warfare / welfare state has given him.

    If the rule of law is to mean anything, it must be upheld even when whitey yells and screams that if we don’t throw aside the rule of law brown skinned Islamists will kill us all.

    • Libertardian: Abe

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  76. @jimbojones
    Presumably as many as are available to the United States Army. US troops are sworn to defend the constitution. But the judges get to decide what the constitution means.

    Soldiers will not defend judges or their insane rulings

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  77. @Oscar
    What these judges are doing is very, very dangerous. Of course, what is needed is a total ban on further immigration from Muslim-majority nations. This ought to be done by congress (by repealing Hart-Celler) although they obviously won't.

    But even if congress did repeal Hart-Celler, I wonder whether these judges--who are here invoking the Establishment Clause to invalidate a ban on immigration from merely seven Muslim-majority nations--would allow congress to implement nation-based immigration limits. Perhaps they'd rule these out, even legislatively, on equal protection grounds? Absolute insanity.

    In general, our judiciary is simply out of control. Let us remember the words of Thomas Jefferson:

    . . . to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions: a very dangerous doctrine indeed and one which would place us under the despotism of an Oligarchy. Our judges are as honest as other men, and not more so. They have, with others, the same passions for party, for power, and the privileges of their corps. Their maxim is 'boni judicis est ampliare jurisdictionim,' and their power the more dangerous as they are in office for life, and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the elective control. The constitution has erected no such single tribunal knowing that, to whatever hands confided, with the corruptions of time and party its members would become despots. It has, more wisely, made all the departments co-equal and co-sovereign within themselves.
     
    When Kennedy (or Gorsuch) cucks, Trump may need to go full Jackson: "The court has made its decision; now let them enforce it!" At that point he should add the other 50 Muslim-majority countries to the list.

    But even if congress did repeal Hart-Celler, I wonder whether these judges–who are here invoking the Establishment Clause to invalidate a ban on immigration from merely seven Muslim-majority nations–would allow congress to implement nation-based immigration limits. Perhaps they’d rule these out, even legislatively, on equal protection grounds? Absolute insanity.

    Let’s remember for a moment how gay marriage became the law of the land. A California judge ruled any prohibition on same-sex marriage against California’s laws. Californians then passed a proposition explicitly defining marriage to be between 1 man and 1 woman. A California judge (don’t recall if the same one) ruled THAT unconstitutional. California voters then passed a state constitutional amendment through a plebiscite/proposition AGAIN defining marriage to be between 1 man and 1 woman. A California judge then threw THAT out, saying the constitution as amended through its own constitutional processes is not really constitutional. This chain of events, I believe, ultimately lead to the case where the Supreme Court decided gay marriage was a constitutional right. Now THAT is insane.

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  78. Yeah, the whole thing is about Trump’s incompetence, and the desire of a lot of America to want to cover for him.

    This would have never happened under President Cruz or President Romney. But Trump is so isolated that he can sometimes make good decisions, he can never make good moves. He doesn’t have the crew to back them up.

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    • Replies: @guest
    "This would never have happened under President Cruz or President Romney"

    Yeah, because they can't get elected.

    But nevermind that. What brilliant stratagem would be employed by these capable executives and their stalwart crews? How would they circumvent the press and the judiciary?

    They wouldn't, because they wouldn't even try.

  79. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @Tiny Duck
    If my work over the last 5 yrs has taught me anything it's that white people aren't "uninformed" - what are is WILLFULLY IGNORANT. I used to get into conversations withwhite people who claimed "I'm not racist I just don't understand". We would go back & forth about reality & fiction and ventually we would get to the point where I was able to ask a very simple but telling question. They always told on themselves when I asked "If everything is so "equal" how do you explain the disparities in income, wealth & incarceration rates bet Black & white people?"

    only 2 answers to that ? - either you believe systemic oppression exists or you believe Black People are inherently more criminal than white people.

    All this "we gotta meet white people where they are" - when exactly do we insist that white folks meet People of Color where THEY are?

    We have spent the last 5 yrs doing nothing but pointing out the BLATANT ways white supremacy runs this society. You don't have an excuse.

    ““If everything is so “equal” how do you explain the disparities in income, wealth & incarceration rates bet Black & white people?”

    only 2 answers to that ? – either you believe systemic oppression exists or you believe Black People are inherently more criminal than white people.”

    - Dolt. Blacks making less money, spending wayyy more on idiotic nonsense compared to what they bring in, and committing way more crime than white people is not oppression of blacks. At the core, its due to a lower average IQ, lower self-control, lower future time orientation, and probably incompetent parents/relatives.

    Equal opportunity does not mean equal outcome.

    Why is it that we are led to believe blacks have no agency when they do wrong, but are solely responsible when anything good comes from them? And the reverse is true for whites?

    The only systemic oppression is oppression of whites. Blacks are coddled by the system, from elementary school to old age and everything in between, while whites are blamed for every failure of minorities, no matter how little involvement they had; whites are rabidly discriminated against by the system – its administered by the government, by the schools, by the media, by Hollywood, etc.

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    @eah
    https://twitter.com/nontolerantman/status/867057826144890880

    I did a rough, back of the envelope calculation based on some figures from a recent article by Gavin about Muslim terrorism; I get about a 16,000-fold greater rate of actual Muslim terrorism to terrorism by white supremacists.

    ~3000 dead from Muslim terrorism in US since Muslims began coming here in significant numbers. 5 dead from white supremacists over same time period

    80 million white males, 3 million Muslim males in US

    600*26.67= 16,002

    You could (and probably Corvinus or Nick Diaz will) play with the numbers a bit to shift them how they want, but no way to get to whitey is worse.

    Yet, white supremacists (and anyone who shares the same skin color with them) are demonized by the left as the worst thing everTM in this country, and we are supposed to be awful deplorables if we don’t roll out the carpet for our Koran-toting friends. Its idiotic.

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  81. This would have never happened under President Cruz or President Romney.

    Right. It never would have happened under Romney or Cruz because neither would have had the ballz to even broach a Muslim ban, let alone implement one (actually there would never have been a Cruz or a Romney presidency to begin with, but that is another point). Romney, in his kick-off of the Never-Trump movement, even went out his way to slam Trump specifically for his Muslim “bigotry”. And Cruz, while sporting the biggest on-screen wood this side of Jeff Beck’s guitar-smashing scene in BLOW-UP about how he’d commit WAR CRIMES making Raqqa “glow”, would maybe sorta stick his neck out to bump up the number of Iraqi Christian refugees we took in by a whopping 20%.

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    Well, the (hugely watered-down) version of the "Muslim ban" we got was the one that Cruz and Rand Paul had proposed (and before Trump came out with his). That said, as we've seen, campaign promises generally get forgotten or watered-down.
  82. @Alfa158
    Legislative action would have been shot down just as fast as executive order. Judges have decided they rule this country, and any decisions they make are backed by whatever thin rationalization gets the result they want. The judiciary has carried out a coup d'etat, and passing a law to block immigration would have just taken longer and then had the same result, judges would have overturned it.The question will eventually become does the nation allow itself to be ruled by unelected judges, plutocrats, professors and media mavens and if not, what's the way out.
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  83. Anonymous says:     Show CommentNext New Comment
    @eah
    https://twitter.com/nontolerantman/status/867057826144890880

    Your opinion polls are “a well-worn tactic for stigmatizing and demeaning Islam and painting the religion, and its men, as violent and barbaric”.

    Put ‘em in your EO and hey presto! Unconstitutional!

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    • Replies: @Lagertha
    Dry-humping by Muslim men on metros (my experience at 15)...breasts grabbed in parks (17). Shut yer SJW yap, you loser, under "anonymous." - find your balls while hiding under mommy's skirt - use your real name like a man. If you are a guy, I dare you to fight against a gang of men raping your gf or bf (or porking you) in your sight. Don't come yapping about SJW shit with "anonymous" on this site - too boring and ridiculous. I have already sent a trail of wolves after your scent. Man, I hate you guys that are so ambivalent...ambivalence is what gets you killed. Sorry, all you regular guys...I am in a very nasty and frustrated mood. You know I am super mad when angry - not cancer related, btw.
  84. WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump’s revised travel ban “speaks with vague words of national security, but in context drips with religious intolerance, animus and discrimination,” a federal appeals court said Thursday in ruling against the executive order targeting six Muslim-majority countries.

    “Hi, yeah, this is the part where we can’t find any fault with the law as such, so we’re gonna talk about imaginary crap in our heads, like ‘Trump’s state of mind,’ and irrelevant crap, like ‘stuff Trump said on the campaign trail.’ Basically, Trump’s a racist, so any law or executive order he signs is racist, if we say it is.”

    Where does the AP state how often the Supreme Court overturns the 9th Circuit (why doesn’t Congress rein in the 9th Circuit? Reduce their jurisdiction to the size of a postage stamp? Take away 100% of their caseload and give it to a newly-constituted federal circuit? These are mysteries that need solving.)? Why do I have to go to the internet to discover that the consensus is “80% of the time”?

    Why does the piece mention that the 3 dissenting judges were all appointed by Republicans, without mentioning who appointed the 7 usurpers/tyrants?

    Why is AP (inter alia) a leftist propaganda organ?

    Calling the executive order a “modest action,” Judge Paul V. Niemeyer wrote that Supreme Court precedent required the court to consider the order “on its face.” Looked at that way, the executive order “is entirely without constitutional fault,” he wrote.

    Exactly. It’s good to see that 30% of the judges involved still have at least some of their respect for the law intact.

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    non-citizens have no rights. My parents were probably (I saw that as a child at Kennedy Airport in 1968) the only non-Asian immigrants...but, they all, all, all, all went thru the proper system.
  85. Wait, only 23% law-abiding, my mistake.

    Presumably as many as are available to the United States Army. US troops are sworn to defend the constitution. But the judges get to decide what the constitution means.

    Congress has near absolute authority over the federal courts. The only thing they can’t do is cut judges’ pay.

    Survival depends upon abandoning hopium for White Male Identity politics making enemies fear us greatly.

    Here we agree. Of course your (((friends))) would like to see us strung up for thinking so…

    Fact is, Trump is contemptuous towards judiciary (not aware or unwilling to accept that it is a separate branch of the government) and the judiciary is paying back (may be with compound interest).

    Yeah, that’s about as valid a justification as the left can come up with.

    I don’t believe blacks are inherently more criminal. I believe they are inherently less intelligent on average and therefore are more likely to make bad decisions like…holding up a liquor store for $50. Or…assaulting someone while in standing in line at Chuck E Cheese because they disrespected you etc. and so on. By the way, I think that makes me a liberal around here.

    So…what’s the difference?

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  86. @Boethiuss
    Yeah, the whole thing is about Trump's incompetence, and the desire of a lot of America to want to cover for him.

    This would have never happened under President Cruz or President Romney. But Trump is so isolated that he can sometimes make good decisions, he can never make good moves. He doesn't have the crew to back them up.

    “This would never have happened under President Cruz or President Romney”

    Yeah, because they can’t get elected.

    But nevermind that. What brilliant stratagem would be employed by these capable executives and their stalwart crews? How would they circumvent the press and the judiciary?

    They wouldn’t, because they wouldn’t even try.

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  87. Cheer up! All you guys, your sons, your nephews, cousins will have to work on educating your “family” about Bolshevism – against! Bolshevism. My grandfather (will bring flowers to his grave next July) would be so proud that more people eject Bolshevism…more than 90% of our USA military is Christian. 5 % are non-denom..5% are non/other. There will not be a coup of anykind, in my lifetime.

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  88. @Anonymous
    Your opinion polls are "a well-worn tactic for stigmatizing and demeaning Islam and painting the religion, and its men, as violent and barbaric".

    Put 'em in your EO and hey presto! Unconstitutional!

    https://twitter.com/HeimishCon/status/867897188457881600

    Dry-humping by Muslim men on metros (my experience at 15)…breasts grabbed in parks (17). Shut yer SJW yap, you loser, under “anonymous.” – find your balls while hiding under mommy’s skirt – use your real name like a man. If you are a guy, I dare you to fight against a gang of men raping your gf or bf (or porking you) in your sight. Don’t come yapping about SJW shit with “anonymous” on this site – too boring and ridiculous. I have already sent a trail of wolves after your scent. Man, I hate you guys that are so ambivalent…ambivalence is what gets you killed. Sorry, all you regular guys…I am in a very nasty and frustrated mood. You know I am super mad when angry – not cancer related, btw.

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  89. @Tiny Duck
    If my work over the last 5 yrs has taught me anything it's that white people aren't "uninformed" - what are is WILLFULLY IGNORANT. I used to get into conversations withwhite people who claimed "I'm not racist I just don't understand". We would go back & forth about reality & fiction and ventually we would get to the point where I was able to ask a very simple but telling question. They always told on themselves when I asked "If everything is so "equal" how do you explain the disparities in income, wealth & incarceration rates bet Black & white people?"

    only 2 answers to that ? - either you believe systemic oppression exists or you believe Black People are inherently more criminal than white people.

    All this "we gotta meet white people where they are" - when exactly do we insist that white folks meet People of Color where THEY are?

    We have spent the last 5 yrs doing nothing but pointing out the BLATANT ways white supremacy runs this society. You don't have an excuse.

    is this post by Tiny, a joke? The grammatical errors and drama is too much. I hate her or him, anyway.

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  90. @Svigor

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Donald Trump's revised travel ban "speaks with vague words of national security, but in context drips with religious intolerance, animus and discrimination," a federal appeals court said Thursday in ruling against the executive order targeting six Muslim-majority countries.
     
    "Hi, yeah, this is the part where we can't find any fault with the law as such, so we're gonna talk about imaginary crap in our heads, like 'Trump's state of mind,' and irrelevant crap, like 'stuff Trump said on the campaign trail.' Basically, Trump's a racist, so any law or executive order he signs is racist, if we say it is."

    Where does the AP state how often the Supreme Court overturns the 9th Circuit (why doesn't Congress rein in the 9th Circuit? Reduce their jurisdiction to the size of a postage stamp? Take away 100% of their caseload and give it to a newly-constituted federal circuit? These are mysteries that need solving.)? Why do I have to go to the internet to discover that the consensus is "80% of the time"?

    Why does the piece mention that the 3 dissenting judges were all appointed by Republicans, without mentioning who appointed the 7 usurpers/tyrants?

    Why is AP (inter alia) a leftist propaganda organ?

    Calling the executive order a "modest action," Judge Paul V. Niemeyer wrote that Supreme Court precedent required the court to consider the order "on its face." Looked at that way, the executive order "is entirely without constitutional fault," he wrote.
     
    Exactly. It's good to see that 30% of the judges involved still have at least some of their respect for the law intact.

    non-citizens have no rights. My parents were probably (I saw that as a child at Kennedy Airport in 1968) the only non-Asian immigrants…but, they all, all, all, all went thru the proper system.

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  91. @Whiskey
    Bottom line, oligarch power plus non Whites plus Nice White Ladies plus cucks equals mass Muslim migration.

    Can't stop it, no hope of that. Survival depends upon abandoning hopium for White Male Identity politics making enemies fear us greatly. Particularly Nice White Ladies our main enemy as they give power to non Whites.

    what about building a real wall, in the North? I’m not being a jerk, whiskey, btw. I just recently signed up for classes about being an apiarist – beekeeper.

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    A wall in the north, on the Canadian border? Please do!

    The latest is an endless stream of "Trump refugees" crossing into Canada, with Trudope welcoming them.
  92. Company cigarettes from the great tree are deadly.

    Cinder, ash and fire. Some smoke it in a hurry. Others savour it.

    And finally the Whale say, “Uuuuhhhh, Jonah?”

    And Jonah say, [inhaling deeply] “What is it, Fish?”

    Whale say, ” ‘What is it, ‘Fish’?”

    He said, “That’s what I said: ‘What is it Fish?’ F-I-S-H- Fish!”

    Say, “You got a new captain on this here mass mess now, Mr. Fish.”

    He say, “I’m on the outside no more. I’m inside now!”

    The Whale say, “Jonah, what in the world is you smoking in there? I thought I was off the Flibberty islands. Here I is two minutes from the Panama Canal! This jazz’s got to go.”

    Jonah say, “What do you care what I’m smoking in here? I’m the captain of this mass mess I done explained to you before.”

    No smoking on the ark. We’re all gonna die in the whale. Don’t forget your Zippo!

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  93. @Abe

    This would have never happened under President Cruz or President Romney.
     
    Right. It never would have happened under Romney or Cruz because neither would have had the ballz to even broach a Muslim ban, let alone implement one (actually there would never have been a Cruz or a Romney presidency to begin with, but that is another point). Romney, in his kick-off of the Never-Trump movement, even went out his way to slam Trump specifically for his Muslim "bigotry". And Cruz, while sporting the biggest on-screen wood this side of Jeff Beck's guitar-smashing scene in BLOW-UP about how he'd commit WAR CRIMES making Raqqa "glow", would maybe sorta stick his neck out to bump up the number of Iraqi Christian refugees we took in by a whopping 20%.

    Well, the (hugely watered-down) version of the “Muslim ban” we got was the one that Cruz and Rand Paul had proposed (and before Trump came out with his). That said, as we’ve seen, campaign promises generally get forgotten or watered-down.

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  94. We tried to argue it was not in 1862, but the people who disagreed invaded and murdered us. These judges are only reminding everyone.

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  95. @epebble
    There have been only 7 cases where an immigration related law was ruled unconstitutional. Most recently, INS v. Chadha, 462 U.S. 919 (1983). Previous cases dealt with loss of Citizenship. It requires a lot of persuasion and political capital to get anything through Congress; but the results are firmer than an executive order. Look how hard it is to "repeal and replace" Obamacare. (I am quite confident there won't be one in this administration). Heck, we haven't passed a budget in ordinary manner in a while. (mostly continuing resolutions, sequestrations, Paygo etc., trickery).

    Your analogy is inapposite. The correct rhetorical statelent is: “Look how long it took fir the federal supreme court to approve Obamacare’s explcit violations of clear language in the federal constitution.”

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  96. @Anonymous

    we are so screwed it isnt funny.
     
    Hey, just be glad you're not one of those towheads in a stroller pushed around by one of the those libtard moms in running gear that I see in my libtopia area. If that infant could see the future his mother is working for... "Thanks Mom, for working so hard to bring about a world which will be a little less hospitable to me than inmates at Rikers Island are to a skinny blond white boy."

    Nope. Those little bastards are all assured gigs as partners in Goldman Sachs, directors of marketing for Microsoft Corp., and sinecures as governmental functionaries with houses in Los Altos, Coral Gables, Malibu, and Bainbridge Island. They’ll suffer about as much as those in the Vichy Regime did under the Germans.

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  97. @IHTG
    The Trump administration actually confirmed a judge two hours ago. More are coming: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_judges_appointed_by_Donald_Trump

    With more than one hundred vacancies, extrapolating from efforts to date that he nominated and appoints about ten every five months, he should about have all the positions filled by the summer or fall of his last year in office. What a workhorse!

    It’s a good thing we didn’t elect someone who spends all of his time granddtanding instead of doing the things he’s alreafy received an electoral mandate to do….

    I did some similarly basic math about his policies on immigration in these same
    comments anf showed we are on track to be rid of illegal aliens in seventy years or some such, assuming zero new arrivals and ignoring entirely legal immigration (a far greater threat).

    Trump calls to mind a hammy wrestler
    in the WWF or whatever it is nowadays: His victory is assured, but he just cannot resist mugging for the audience whilst his previously prone opponent slowly struggles to his feet, reaches for the dreaded “steel chair!” and then wollops the gloater from behind. The only question remaining is whether the whole business with Trump was also preordained, scripted, and rehearsed.

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  98. @Jack Hanson
    As you can see, many here think the highest form of allowable dissent is a pithy blog comment, even when the unelected mandarins decide bad think is punishable by imprisonment.

    As I said before, pol is a greater barometer of the average mood of Trump voter than THE MOST IMPORTANT BLOG EVER's commentariat, and they're gearing up for WWIII.

    What have you been up to, there, Clint Eastwood? I haven’t seen footage of you storming the Bastille and manning the barricades on the evening news yet. Is it because you also realise being murderer or imprisoned by the government’s goons is futile?

    You’re right that it is too late for a poltical solution, however, it is also too soon to be able to kill the bastards yet, either.

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  99. @Abe

    But even if congress did repeal Hart-Celler, I wonder whether these judges–who are here invoking the Establishment Clause to invalidate a ban on immigration from merely seven Muslim-majority nations–would allow congress to implement nation-based immigration limits. Perhaps they’d rule these out, even legislatively, on equal protection grounds? Absolute insanity.
     
    Let's remember for a moment how gay marriage became the law of the land. A California judge ruled any prohibition on same-sex marriage against California's laws. Californians then passed a proposition explicitly defining marriage to be between 1 man and 1 woman. A California judge (don't recall if the same one) ruled THAT unconstitutional. California voters then passed a state constitutional amendment through a plebiscite/proposition AGAIN defining marriage to be between 1 man and 1 woman. A California judge then threw THAT out, saying the constitution as amended through its own constitutional processes is not really constitutional. This chain of events, I believe, ultimately lead to the case where the Supreme Court decided gay marriage was a constitutional right. Now THAT is insane.

    Gold box this man’s comment!

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  100. @TheJester
    I don't know why African Americans think that open borders and mass immigration will improve their social and economic standing ... other than increasing the ever-growing demographic expressing an emotional disdain for Whites and Western Civilization.

    Ironically, African Americans are now being increasingly fractionalized and marginalized by the social practices originally intended to elevate their social and economic status. As a negative correlation, there has been a new and growing tier of new arrivals acting to keep them in their place. African Americans remain at the bottom with a progressively decreasing chance of improving their social and economic standing with the White community.

    African Americans are finding themselves being systematically pushed out of jobs, neighborhoods, and "gifting" opportunities (affirmative action) by the new immigrants. It's all in the numbers. At one time, African Americans were the only recipients of affirmative action and racial/ethnic quotas. Then came the White feminists with their gender issues. Then came the tsunami of peoples from Asia, Mexico, Central America, MENA, the Caribbean, and, yes, sub-Saharan Africa with the same, all-embracing list of grievances against White society. There is only so much "gifting" that to go around before the quotas are filled and/or the entire edifice collapses.

    As a measure of self-interest, one would think that African Americans would get smart and ally with Whites to close our borders to the foreign invaders.

    African-Americans aren’t that smart, that’s why.

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  101. There will be atleast one conservative justice that will go against Trump at the high court on this one. Liberals will hold the line, big trouble ahead.

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  102. Remember: the Supreme Court always backs down when the President puts direct pressure on them. FDR, Obamacare, etc.

    And also remember: how many divisions does the Supreme Court have? See Andrew Jackson.

    Marbury v. Madison
    is nothing but words on a piece of paper that the rest of the country has agreed to go along with. But the moment we stop agreeing, the courts have no power.

    The Left steadily took over the courts in the twentieth century, thinking that converging them would make everyone bow to their authority. They neglected to realize that people only listen to courts when they perceive them as legitimate. Now that much of the country is viewing these decisions as illegitimate, the courts won’t be followed.

    Trump as Andrew Jackson is going to happen, and the Left will have only successfully belied Marbury v. Madison.

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  103. @Tiny Duck
    If my work over the last 5 yrs has taught me anything it's that white people aren't "uninformed" - what are is WILLFULLY IGNORANT. I used to get into conversations withwhite people who claimed "I'm not racist I just don't understand". We would go back & forth about reality & fiction and ventually we would get to the point where I was able to ask a very simple but telling question. They always told on themselves when I asked "If everything is so "equal" how do you explain the disparities in income, wealth & incarceration rates bet Black & white people?"

    only 2 answers to that ? - either you believe systemic oppression exists or you believe Black People are inherently more criminal than white people.

    All this "we gotta meet white people where they are" - when exactly do we insist that white folks meet People of Color where THEY are?

    We have spent the last 5 yrs doing nothing but pointing out the BLATANT ways white supremacy runs this society. You don't have an excuse.

    only 2 answers to that ? – either you believe systemic oppression exists or you believe Black People are inherently more criminal than white people.

    B

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  104. @The Anti-Gnostic
    Well, step two is people beginning to ask how many tank battalions the judges have.

    Well, step two is people beginning to ask how many tank battalions the judges have.

    Trump blew the opportunity to strike back against the lawlessness of the judiciary when the district court ruling was made.

    Not only must the President have constitutional “no entry” authority in any kind of plausible reading of the constitution and in fact any plausible setup of authority for the leader in a free republic, but there is black letter law setting out such authority in our immigration law.

    The district court was doing pure judicial imperialism. Trump should have just said what I said, read out the relevant section of law, made a few pithy comments about elections and the people being sovereign and then instructed State and Homeland Security employees to continue to carry out his instructions.

    Huge missed opportunity. You can’t let the leftists drag you into their legal morass–delay, delay, harass, harass–when you have the authority to act.

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  105. @The Anti-Gnostic

    Unfortunately there are many intermediate steps before we get to your Number 2.
     
    The Warren court was the first to discern the hitherto indiscernible out of the Constitution, and from there it's been a couple of generations to Judge Gregory's current muh feelz! interpretation of the Establishment Clause.

    Honestly, he's so wrong he's not even wrong. Like saying, "orange" in response to "What is 6 + 4?"

    So probably another two generations until Hon. Ta-Nehisi Coates, III (C.J.) declares the Constitution itself unconstitutional and the only people bothering to read the federal reports are other judges. (Kind of like law reviews and professors).

    “The Warren court was the first to discern the hitherto indiscernible out of the Constitution…”

    Actually, it was Waite Court in Santa Clara v. Southern Pacific (1886) that bears this distinction. You’re only off by 70 years.

    “and from there it’s been a couple of generations to Judge Gregory’s current muh feelz! interpretation of the Establishment Clause.”

    Our Founding Fathers ensured freedom of religion across the board. In other words, they believed it as a universal concept, regardless if he she was a citizen or non-citizen. It is consistent therefore that no religious test be put forth.

    But since Congress is responsible for immigration laws, it would be under their authority to make it a priority that future immigrants are of the Christian variety, not the executive branch. Is Trump even guided by faith?

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  106. @reiner Tor
    Pretty depressing... it will be used as a quasi-precedent by courts and leftists in Europe, too.

    Europe is so far down the Muslim road they don’t need any help.

    I read an article today on Macron: he really really thinks Islam is not a problem. He has no difficulty with the Muslim Brotherhood.

    He’s clearly very ill informed and that’s very depressing.

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10392/france-macron-islamists

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    Why should any of us have a problem with the Muslim Brotherhood. Leave them alone and let them govern themselves as they see fit.
  107. @for-the-record
    No legal scholar am I, but the language

    "in text speaks with vague words of national security, but in context drips with religious intolerance, animus, and discrimination"
     
    certainly strikes me as highly atypical of the court judgments with which I am familiar, which normally are extraordinarily soporific even when far-reaching. Has this now become the judicial norm in the new Age of Enlightenment?

    Quote of judge

    “in text speaks with vague words of national security, but in context drips with religious intolerance, animus, and discrimination”

    “Religious intolerance, animus and discrimination.”

    Why that sounds like the Islamic Republic of Iran! Or the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia!

    This is what they’re like if they seize control.

    How many Muslims are too many, given that they have a noticeably higher birth rate than most other groups?

    I would say we need as few as possible.

    Islam is a political ideology with a religious gloss. The judge is wrong.

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  108. @Jack Hanson
    As you can see, many here think the highest form of allowable dissent is a pithy blog comment, even when the unelected mandarins decide bad think is punishable by imprisonment.

    As I said before, pol is a greater barometer of the average mood of Trump voter than THE MOST IMPORTANT BLOG EVER's commentariat, and they're gearing up for WWIII.

    I desperately want to do something other than write comments here moaning about the problem.

    But I don’t know what to do.

    I spent two years working 24/7 for a Canadian blog that deals in Islam, immigration, typical issues. It was depressing to spend so much time reading such grim news.

    I followed and blogged on even international aspects (southern Thai Muslims carry out another attack on Buddhists or Muslims who aren’t “with” the cause; in Pakistan the Taliban — or some other Sunni group — blows up a Christian church or a Shiite mosque with dozens killed; Bangladeshi Islamic nutjobs start setting fire to buses and trucks or even derail trains or kill atheists, because they want to usher in an Islamic paradise…etc).

    What can I do in Canada? Shortly after this, a man even stupider than Macron — Justin Trudeau — is elected.

    No party favours immigration restriction. There is no one to vote for. No Marine Le Pen, who lost anyway…

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  109. @Lagertha
    what about building a real wall, in the North? I'm not being a jerk, whiskey, btw. I just recently signed up for classes about being an apiarist - beekeeper.

    A wall in the north, on the Canadian border? Please do!

    The latest is an endless stream of “Trump refugees” crossing into Canada, with Trudope welcoming them.

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  110. @Maj. Kong
    The battle was lost back in 1914, when Edward Grey signed the British Empire's execution warrant.

    Or when Germany foolishly gave the Austrians a blank check to invade Serbia.

    But it might well have ended better even so, if Britain had stayed out.

    It’s hard to see how it could have been any worse.

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    Or when Germany foolishly gave the Austrians a blank check to invade Serbia

     

    Or when Russia foolishly gave Serbia a blank check to resist Austria after they (foolishly) assassinated Austria's heir to the throne.

    The Kaiser summarises:



    For I no longer have any doubt that England, Russia and France have agreed among themselves—knowing that our treaty obligations compel us to support Austria-Hungary—to use the Austro-Serb conflict as a pretext for waging a war of annihilation against us. ... Our dilemma over keeping faith with the old and honorable Emperor has been exploited to create a situation which gives England the excuse she has been seeking to annihilate us with a spurious appearance of justice on the pretext that she is helping France and maintaining the well-known Balance of Power in Europe, i.e. playing off all European States for her own benefit against us.

     

  111. @Frau Katze
    Europe is so far down the Muslim road they don't need any help.

    I read an article today on Macron: he really really thinks Islam is not a problem. He has no difficulty with the Muslim Brotherhood.

    He's clearly very ill informed and that's very depressing.

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10392/france-macron-islamists

    Why should any of us have a problem with the Muslim Brotherhood. Leave them alone and let them govern themselves as they see fit.

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  112. @Maj. Kong
    Liberals fear the far-right to a much greater degree than they fear Islamist terrorism.

    The great project of our elites, the Kalergi Plan of demographic displacement, must not be allowed to be stopped by mere voters.

    “The great project of our elites, the Kalergi Plan of demographic displacement, must not be allowed to be stopped by mere voters.”

    This plan is a concoction of your wild imagination. Furthermore, if you are hell bent on stopping things, why not take Vox Day’s advice and put it into action.

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/05/mailvox-breivik-saint-or-monster.html

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    This plan is a concoction of your wild imagination

     

    1. Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi is a real person who existed.

    2. Kalergi said the following: "The human of the far future will be a hybrid.... The Euro-Asian-Negroid hybrid race of the future, akin to the likeness of the ancient Egyptians, will replace the variety of races with variety of personalities."

    3. There is an European Society Coudenhove-Kalergi.

    4. Markle received an award from the above European Society Coudenhove-Kalergi.

    5. Merkle has caused a million migrants, mostly male, to Enter Europe, with millions more on the way in the future.

    Do you challenge the truthfulness of any of the above points 1-5?


    Furthermore, if you are hell bent on stopping things, why not take Vox Day’s advice and put it into action.

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/05/mailvox-breivik-saint-or-monster.html

     

    LOL. Breivik was retaliation for a "Boikott Israel" sign being shown the day before.

    Norway island boycott israel sign
    Pro-Palestinian Activity Precedes Norway Massacre

    I am sure Maj. Kong condemns killing children for sympathizing with Palestinians, do you?
  113. @Tiny Duck
    If my work over the last 5 yrs has taught me anything it's that white people aren't "uninformed" - what are is WILLFULLY IGNORANT. I used to get into conversations withwhite people who claimed "I'm not racist I just don't understand". We would go back & forth about reality & fiction and ventually we would get to the point where I was able to ask a very simple but telling question. They always told on themselves when I asked "If everything is so "equal" how do you explain the disparities in income, wealth & incarceration rates bet Black & white people?"

    only 2 answers to that ? - either you believe systemic oppression exists or you believe Black People are inherently more criminal than white people.

    All this "we gotta meet white people where they are" - when exactly do we insist that white folks meet People of Color where THEY are?

    We have spent the last 5 yrs doing nothing but pointing out the BLATANT ways white supremacy runs this society. You don't have an excuse.

    This reads like a Google translation of Ebonics to English.

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  114. @Corvinus
    "The great project of our elites, the Kalergi Plan of demographic displacement, must not be allowed to be stopped by mere voters."

    This plan is a concoction of your wild imagination. Furthermore, if you are hell bent on stopping things, why not take Vox Day's advice and put it into action.

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/05/mailvox-breivik-saint-or-monster.html

    This plan is a concoction of your wild imagination

    1. Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi is a real person who existed.

    2. Kalergi said the following: “The human of the far future will be a hybrid…. The Euro-Asian-Negroid hybrid race of the future, akin to the likeness of the ancient Egyptians, will replace the variety of races with variety of personalities.”

    3. There is an European Society Coudenhove-Kalergi.

    4. Markle received an award from the above European Society Coudenhove-Kalergi.

    5. Merkle has caused a million migrants, mostly male, to Enter Europe, with millions more on the way in the future.

    Do you challenge the truthfulness of any of the above points 1-5?

    Furthermore, if you are hell bent on stopping things, why not take Vox Day’s advice and put it into action.

    http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/05/mailvox-breivik-saint-or-monster.html

    LOL. Breivik was retaliation for a “Boikott Israel” sign being shown the day before.

    Norway island boycott israel sign
    Pro-Palestinian Activity Precedes Norway Massacre

    I am sure Maj. Kong condemns killing children for sympathizing with Palestinians, do you?

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  115. To paraphrase Stalin’s comment on the Pope, “How many divisions does the 9th Circuit have?”.

    These people are sowing the wind.

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  116. @Frau Katze
    Or when Germany foolishly gave the Austrians a blank check to invade Serbia.

    But it might well have ended better even so, if Britain had stayed out.

    It's hard to see how it could have been any worse.

    Or when Germany foolishly gave the Austrians a blank check to invade Serbia

    Or when Russia foolishly gave Serbia a blank check to resist Austria after they (foolishly) assassinated Austria’s heir to the throne.

    The Kaiser summarises:

    [MORE]

    For I no longer have any doubt that England, Russia and France have agreed among themselves—knowing that our treaty obligations compel us to support Austria-Hungary—to use the Austro-Serb conflict as a pretext for waging a war of annihilation against us. … Our dilemma over keeping faith with the old and honorable Emperor has been exploited to create a situation which gives England the excuse she has been seeking to annihilate us with a spurious appearance of justice on the pretext that she is helping France and maintaining the well-known Balance of Power in Europe, i.e. playing off all European States for her own benefit against us.

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  117. @Ironsides
    The "rule of law" does NOT guarantee the Right of Entry to the United States to ONE brown-skinned invader from the land of vest-bombs and burkas. Nor does the Constitution exist to guarantee, hasten, and raise to the status of a frenzied religious principle the political and demographic dispossession of the Founding Fathers' posterity.

    You are claiming that the Constitution exists solely to punish "whitey" for existing and to ensure the complete replacement of "whitey" by alien people who hate the United States, all its freedoms, all its culture, and everything about it -- that the purpose of the Constitution of the United States is to destroy the United States and ensure that the Constitution is replaced and consigned to the garbage heap of history by men of utterly foreign mind.

    That is an insane viewpoint. A nation that exists solely for the purpose of abolishing itself? That's like saying, say, that Japan exists for the sole purpose of importing enough Frenchmen to ensure that the Japanese language, culture, and race is replaced by the French, as quickly as possible.

    Not all whites are American.

    It’s time to come to terms with this.

    By letting in the Slavs, Meds and Irish, you opened the doors for immigration of Asians, Indians and Africans.

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  118. @Tiny Duck
    If my work over the last 5 yrs has taught me anything it's that white people aren't "uninformed" - what are is WILLFULLY IGNORANT. I used to get into conversations withwhite people who claimed "I'm not racist I just don't understand". We would go back & forth about reality & fiction and ventually we would get to the point where I was able to ask a very simple but telling question. They always told on themselves when I asked "If everything is so "equal" how do you explain the disparities in income, wealth & incarceration rates bet Black & white people?"

    only 2 answers to that ? - either you believe systemic oppression exists or you believe Black People are inherently more criminal than white people.

    All this "we gotta meet white people where they are" - when exactly do we insist that white folks meet People of Color where THEY are?

    We have spent the last 5 yrs doing nothing but pointing out the BLATANT ways white supremacy runs this society. You don't have an excuse.

    Wow thanks, Tiny. I googled up where you took that from

    (the rest is in further tweets)
    And, because of its source, it is a really good example for me to use in discussing these issues.
    I would never have guessed your trolling would be useful

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