A few clarifications on Viper, Serpent and HLLs by vbuterin in ethereum

[–]joeykrug 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At Augur what we're interested in is writing contracts in ADA/Spark and compiling into WASM / EVM 2.0.

Once the C wasm library for ethereum is out we'll probably take ideas from that, make a similar library for ada, and then use that. We really like the formal verification tools and properties around the language.

Re serpent I like the idea of keeping it mostly static, any minor changes needed to comply w/ hard forks etc.

A pathway for conversion of serpent -> viper would be sweet as well, if that we're available we'd switch to viper before any of the wasm stuff even

guys how augur really works? by holabebe in Augur

[–]joeykrug 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Practically every other financial market actually does things this way. You don't buy and sell long shares and then also buy and sell short shares for something like Apple, you just buy shares [go long] or sell shares [going short, where you own negative shares].

guys how augur really works? by holabebe in Augur

[–]joeykrug 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you sell you're basically shorting it.

So you can buy trump or sell him

“Journalism” by joeykrug in Augur

[–]joeykrug[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've never had luck submitting corrections to them in the past --- in fact, preemptively said if they had any questions feel free to ping but nothing. Which would be fine if the reporting were accurate.

“Journalism” - or what happens when a VC + institutional trading firm acquires a news publication by joeykrug in ethereum

[–]joeykrug[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Criticism is good when factual

The most useful pieces of advice & information I've ever got has largely been criticism

Why would someone want to buy a token that they have to do work for to get paid? by monzzter221 in Augur

[–]joeykrug 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Still the same thing I'm saying afaict haha

I generously gave 5%. That means that all 11 million REP collectively get 2.5% of all money flowing through augur, not half of it as you said.

I meant they get half of the 5% or 2.5% --- completely agree lol!

Why would someone want to buy a token that they have to do work for to get paid? by monzzter221 in Augur

[–]joeykrug 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm pointing out that your math where you said

"No, they're paid..."

is exactly the same as the math I did .5 / 11,000,000, you said no it's 1/22,000,000, it's the same thing

i.e. 10,000,000,000 times .01 times .5 / 11,000,000

or activity times .01 times .5 / 11,000,000

or activity times .01 / 22,000,000

all equivalent

How is "dormancy" of REP calculated? by happydoer in Augur

[–]joeykrug 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey guys, the new FAQ is on the sidebar here http://blog.augur.net/faq-frequently-asked-questions/

Dormant penalties are 0 now and have been for a while basically due to not wanting to add overt complexity :)

Is there a cap on the number of markets you can be assigned as a reporter? by augurrr in Augur

[–]joeykrug 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's not a hard cap --- it's based off the percent of rep you own. We're also working on some things to make reporting easier / less of a hassle :)

Using Augur or a similar variant to create a "Truth Market" by nittyit in Augur

[–]joeykrug 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep, Augur is essentially a superset of this concept [since with augur you can do much more / other market types than this, and augur uses real order book trading]

Be cautious with crypto: A quick reminder how fast and painful a hype can cool off. And they had a *working* platform from the start... by humbrie in Augur

[–]joeykrug 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Steem was also 98% or so mined to the initial small group on bitcointalk, also doesn't have any clear economic reason to be valuable that i could see reading about it, so it's pretty different. I'm sure the price will be back up long term if it actually has / develops a solid sustainable economic model + no reason it loses security if the token is forked away + continues to gain users.

Tldr markets are erratic in the short to mid term, but generally price things correctly in the long run.

Why would someone want to buy a token that they have to do work for to get paid? by monzzter221 in Augur

[–]joeykrug 3 points4 points  (0 children)

have somebody on staff to handle questions like this here on reddit and other places

Stay tuned :)

Why would someone want to buy a token that they have to do work for to get paid? by monzzter221 in Augur

[–]joeykrug 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Rep has more economic incentive to buy it than any other cryptoasset I've come across [in fact, it's one of the few that actually has a direct cash flow incentive to use it].

Every other asset is basically at the base default of "you hold it, hope it goes up." There's dormant rep for that I suppose...

There's huge economic incentive, each actively reporting rep gets 1/22 millionth or 1/11m * average fee / 2 of all transactions through the system. Some people complain reporters are "overpaid" [they're actually designed to be paid as much needed for security, which isn't cheap!]

Economic equilibriums are real. What do I mean by that? Saying rep has not enough economic incentive is a bit like saying Bitcoin mining doesn't have enough economic incentive. The amount of active rep/reporters will reach a relatively efficient equilibrium eventually, just as bitcoin mining does. In truly open and free markets rent seeking isn't a sustainable strategy.

As far as rep being expensive, I think it's quite cheap and have been buying more. Reporting 1-2 hours every two months [60 days] isn't like any full time job I've ever had.

Back to the top why I say economic incentive is high: with stablecoins and a solid web UI I think it's perfectly feasible to see $10B in volume a year, at a 1% round trip fee per rep we get: 10,000,000,000 times .01 times .5 / 11,000,000 or 4.545 per rep. Anything high growth like this would have a typically sky high ev/ebit ratio, if we use something like 30 we get 136.36 per rep, if you use a super high discount rate like 90% you get a npv of 13.636 per rep. That's how I value it anyway. Once augur starts entering new markets and not just disrupting old ones with lower cost it's even more exciting.

Does EIP150 imply changes to the Augur Code base? by saddit42 in Augur

[–]joeykrug 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ugh yuck.

CALL SLOAD

are really the only ones that matter for us

There isn't much we can really change to alleviate these changes beyond "making our code more efficient" which is something we're always working on anyway.

The price jump in call and sload is quite high: I would prefer they optimize the clients before figuring out how to set the price of the opcodes

Does anyone know how many Ether are still held by the Augur founders. by Thynes23 in Augur

[–]joeykrug 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I still have all my REP - as far as eth, all my other crypto is in http://polychain.capital/.

I wouldn't speculate too much on "If augur does y eth will go to x!" simply because I firmly believe that in 5 years 99% of the trading volume will be in stablecoins, not eth.

Augur Live - This is screaming Q2-Q3 2017 to me by SouperNerd in Augur

[–]joeykrug 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Couldn't agree more. Please join the #ui channel on slack and bring it up would love your help with this