I usually hate this kind of music, but I can’t stop laughing at this song. It’s too much LOL! I think was some idiot wrestler named Pimpin Ain’t Easy.
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Tulio, a Black man in his 30’s, is a regular commenter on the site. It was nice to see him move out defensive mode on the subject and write a deep and heartfelt post about these matters which are so painfully dear to his heart. He said that he thinks about this stuff constantly, as he is a young Black man. That’s sad, but if you care, it’s understandable.
Tulio notes that the problem is now so entrenched that it seems to be intractable. He also notes the corrosive effect of a lot of the new Black music.
Even White prison gang members have remarked on how detrimental they feel this music has been to White youth in recent years. They say young White man come to prison after listening to hip hop for years and think they are tough badass gangsters going to live it up in paradise in a maximum security prison. And boy do they have another thing coming!
I would like to thank Tulio for this post. Even if these problems seem intractable, we should at least be discussing them, as the human and societal damage is of epic proportions.
As for Black crime, it’s a confluence of a lot of different things and not an easy problem to solve.
Single motherhood. You have a lot of fatherless homes and single mothers. While not all single mothers raise bad sons (I personally know great guys raised by single moms), most guys in prison never had a strong father in their life. Women’s role is nurture; men’s role is discipline. Boys aren’t afraid of their moms. They’re afraid of their dads. Boys need fathers first and foremost.
I don’t know what the high cause of single motherhood is in the Black underclass. I truly have no idea, and I think about this stuff all the time since I’m a Black man. It wasn’t always like this. There was a time that Blacks were known for having strong families. The explosion seems to have happened in the 60s.
I don’t think there’s anything genetic about it. This doesn’t seem to be the case in Africa, especially traditional African society. It seems to be something unique to Black Americans. I don’t know what it looks like amongst Black Latins or Caribbeans. But family in Africa seems pretty strong, so I know it’s not genetic.
Dead zones. Secondly you have a large cultural vacuum in certain parts of the country.
Do you ever read about how there are dead zones in the ocean? Certain areas where there is not enough oxygen and that part of the ocean is devoid of life?
The inner cities of America are dead zones. They are islands of misery, hopelessness, broken schools, high unemployment, drugs, urban decay. There’s very little there to give people inspiration and hope. The church is often the only thing. The people living there have just enough so as not to revolt, yet not enough for them to be functional players in the economy.
The origin of such ghettos can be traced back to segregation. Some of these communities thrived at a time and were fairly self-sufficient. The Black middle class fled these places. And all that was left behind were the poor and a crumbling society. The middle class Blacks might have served as role models to those less fortunate. The Whites didn’t care about them either. Everyone that could afford to get out, got out.
So what can be done about it? I don’t know. The problem seems almost intractable. So I guess the only real solution here would be some sort of gentrification. Concentrated poverty is a very dangerous thing. As I’ve shown before, it can turn White people violent as well like it did in NYC tenements or as it currently does in Glasgow.
Spreading the poor out a bit should help. And it should also make their behavior better through cultural osmosis.
I can imagine no worse situation than being a Black kid raised by a poor single mother where the only male role models are thuggish rappers and drug dealers. They need to see other things and get out of that box. They need something positive to aspire to.
High unemployment. When unemployment is high, it makes working in the dark side of the economy more seductive. I’m sure many of these kids coming up would like to be able to make a decent living and not have to worry about ending up in jail or getting gunned down. But the fewer jobs there are, the more it makes the risk of selling drugs seem worth it. Even fairly decent people will start acting shady if that’s the only way they have to survive.
Well one major problem is that many blue collar jobs that Blacks used to do for a living wage either went to China or went to illegal aliens. It wasn’t uncommon to see Black carpenters, drywallers, construction workers, meatpackers, etc.
Now these jobs are almost all entirely done by Mexicans illegally in the country. This was a huge issue in the rebuilding of New Orleans after Katrina. There were a lot of Blacks out of work that wanted those construction jobs, and they were livid that they were going to Mexicans who aren’t even citizens and don’t even have any roots in the city. How can anyone not feel their pain?
The gutting of solid blue collar work has had a huge effect on Rust Belt White America but it has been an utter disaster for Black America. I see no easy solution here either.
Music. I also thing the music is a problem. Now maybe it’s an issue of art imitating life, or it’s the other way around, I don’t know. But I do think it has something of a feedback loop effect. A lot or rap music, even if not explicitly advocating violence, tends to reinforce a lot of selfish attitudes, hyper-materialism, fast money, fast women, party hard, a lot of Machiavellianism. It’s pervasive, even in the more lukewarm hiphop music.
Sometimes it’s just the attitude. The anger. One rarely sees rappers smiling or seeming happy unless surrounded by money, bling and sexy women. This stuff has to stop, and if I had a kid, I’d be very careful about what they listen to.
That said, not all rap music is like that, a lot of it is positive and life affirming. Some of it is great to dance too or just enjoy in the background if you have the smarts to not get caught up in the Machiavellian stuff.
It should also be noted that not all “Black music” is like this. The majority of Black music is not rap and does not contain violent lyrics. Unfortunately though, most of the music young Black males of the inner city listen to will be rap and often with terrible messages. What can anyone do about this? Not much, as long as there’s a first amendment, rappers can pretty much talk about whatever they want sell their music to whomever they want, most of which is bought by Whites anyway.
Sorry I don’t have any easy solutions, but these are just a few things that contribute to the issue.
As for feminism, and I assume we’re talking about feminism of the more militant variety, the Pandora’s Box is open on that one. I wish things had stayed with equity feminism, and we could’ve left it there. But it then evolved into an assault on gender roles and gender as some sort of social construct rather than biological reality. That’s what happens when people with PhD’s take over the movement.
I know it’s not realistic for every American man to find a foreign woman, but for those that can, I think that’s the best solution. Foreign women are much more enjoyable to be around.
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Repost from the old site.
From this great link, we learn many facts about crime that turn conventional knowledge on its head. Logic about crime rates in the US. First of all, the crime rate rise from 1965-present was not the first such major rise in this nation.
Similarly, from 1900-1930, the crime rate rose sharply in America, then dropped sharply from 1930-1960, then rose sharply again from 1960-1980, then dropped sharply in recent years. But you would never know this to listen to public discourse.
All we know is that crime skyrocketed around 1960 and has remained at astronomical levels ever since. The old days, pre-1960, were times of almost no crime in a gloriously White America. This is a smoking pack of lies.
Crime rates do differ by race and sex, and to discuss this is not necessarily racist in the least. The Black homicide rate is 8X the White rate, and the male rate is 10X the female rate.
One thing we know is that the homicide rate is much higher today than in the good old days, right? Wrong. Homicide was higher from 1910-1940, in the days of glorious and safe White America, than it is today, often much higher.
What about robbery? It is true that robbery tripled between 1965-1975, remained high until 1991, and then dropped 40% to about a 1970 level.
Surely the death penalty could fight this horrible crime wave, right? Wishful thinking. Executions were very high from 1910-1950 but so was crime for much of that period.
More money for more cops will surely do the trick, right? Spending on crime fighting efforts has gone up almost 16 times per capita since 1900, but there has not been much of an effect on crime.
Race and sex combine to produce the most extreme outliers in the crime rate. Black males are 106 times (!!) more likely to be locked up than White females. If you want to feel safe, hang around White women.
As noted above, the crime rate is much lower than during 1910-1940, but we are locking up 6 times as many people as we were then per capita. So what gives? Why lock up so much people when the crime rate is so much lower, especially since 1910-1940 is hardly regarded as a time of terrifying crime in the US?
Surely violent crime is far higher than in the past, though, right, and so many more prisoners now are locked up for violent crime than in the past? Think again. Violent crime is the same – 25% of prisoners were locked up for violent crime in 1910 and 25% are locked up now.
One salient fact is that juvenile crime has risen dramatically – the juvenile rate for violent crime has gone up 4X and the rate for property crime has gone up 2.5X over a century. Yet the current juvenile crime rate is only 30% higher than 1957.
The list of statistics above would seem to not only smash many of our cherished myths about crime, but is also frustrating in that it seems to pour cold water on many of our proposed solutions to crime. We can see why criminology is something of a round file for social science theory. After studying it intensively for decades, so much of crime still seems to defy scientific analysis and explication.
The only way that these statistics make any kind of sense is if we conceive of America as always have a lot of crime and violent crime for the past 100 years. This is something that the Europeans and Asians know well. Sometimes the rates go up, sometimes they go down, but they are usually much higher than rates in much of Europe and Asia.
There is something criminogenic and violent about US society, and there has been for some time. Violent crime rates among both Whites and Blacks were very high in the South all through the 1800’s and remained high for both races through the past century.
Lots of booze and guns, an honor culture, primitive attitudes towards women, a cultivation of stupidity and fundamentalist brainrot contributed to a Stroke Belt of homicidal hotheads.
I just got through watching most of Yukmouth Presents: United Ghettos of America, Volume 2 , a documentary about rappers. Check it out (if you don’t mind the porn that is) if you want to see the rot that is rap music – a celebration of everything that is coarse, stupid, sickening, dangerous, amoral, sociopathic and depraved about Ghetto Black Culture.
Watching that video, I do not expect the crime rate in the US to move towards Japanese levels anytime soon.
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Interesting stuff. UK Blacks have created their own type of gangsta rap which is quite a bit different from the US stuff. About midway through the set, the group splits into two, but not after a huge round of hugs and all-around loving. Then one group goes outside. The camera follows them as warmth, love and kindness flow lazily through the scene. It was a 1960’s Love-in all over again, just missing the incense. Love makes the world go round!
Listening to these grime videos, why is it that I find ghetto looking Black guys with thick London British accents so funny? For some reason, every time I think of a thick British accent, I think of a White person, or at the outside a South Asian, Pakistani or Indian. I’m not sure if I have ever heard a Black person with a think British accent before. Especially a ghetto nigga type, which I associate with the US, with a think urban London accent, sounds totally hilarious!
I can’t seem to figure out White boys these days. I swear to God, they are turning into Black people. Like the mysterious Flynn Effect, the Wigger Effect changes are occurring much too fast to be due to genetic changes, so environmental changes must be at work. Social scientists are busy at work during to untangle the mysterious Wigger Effect.
The Wigger Effect holds many interesting questions for the future, assuming it continues. In the future, will White Wiggers be eligible for Affirmative Action also? Is the offspring of a Wigger and a White woman biracial? Is the offspring of a Wigger and a Black woman pure Black? Are IQ tests biased against Wiggers too? If a Wigger beats up a Black dude (assuming that’s even possible) is it a Hate Crime or Black on Black violence? We have seen the first Black President. So when will we see the first Wigger President?
As an aside, this* has to be one of the worst music videos ever made. Shout out to whoever did it. Like 50’s sci-fi flicks, it’s a masterpiece in a certain sense.
I have some comments.
Why did this kid hire his Mom to be a go-go dancer in his video? Or is that his sister? Or is it a hooker he hired for $50? If it’s his Mom, she sure is hot! If it’s his sister, forget it. If it’s a hooker, I want to know what she will do for $100?
Is that his Dad’s motorcycle?
Why did this video have to be 5 minutes long. At the 3 minute mark, I realized I would have to watch two more minutes of this, and I swear to God I almost committed suicide.
Is this kid retarded? Does he have Down’s Syndrome? Cerebal palsy? Was this done for the Make a Wish Foundation? Was this kid in the Special Olympics?
Those flips in the backyard are pretty gangsta.
This guy hails from Halliburton, Ontario, Canada. His next album is going to be called “Straight Outa Halliburton.”
Kids, listen, this is why you need to stay in school. This is what happens when you drop out. Seriously.
That layup was weak. You ain’t no baller.
If this kid was Black, he would probably be on B.E.T., right?
I am thinking maybe we should make it against the law for White people to act like Black people. I mean Black people acting like Black people, well, that’s just natural. But White people acting like Black people, that’s like a crime against nature, you know?
I asked some of my gangsta friends to watch this video. These are their comments: “Fuck yea! Boostalk all up in dis joint.” “Look out Jay-Z! There’s a new king in town!” “Boostalk is the numba one hustla!!” “The girl is mad busted!” “Mad beats dawg!” “Those are some sick flips and shit.”
*The video is Boostalk doing We Gon Rock. The video was reportedly made on a $50 budget. I guess the $50 was to hire the dancing escort girl.
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