Journalists were screaming next gen by this demo,so I expected next gen level of shit,but nothing is really out of this world.
Came here to talk about the game but found that the majority of posts revolve around the usage of the word "cunt" in a mature game by an underworld gangster trying to kill the main character. FFS, it is meant to find it offensive. I mean, he's trying to kill you! I wonder if everyone would be so upset if it was a guy being called a "dick". Discussions aside, this looks incredible. It definitely feels like its going to be at least one more year in the oven, but it already looks phenomenal.
I don't get why everyone's upset about the cunt usage, but not one of the enemies calling the character a bitch?
The details of the world look amazing, all the npc's going about their business and everything. The world looks right up there with games like GTA V/AC: Origins, and even moreso because of the number of npc's. Combat wise though? Bullet sponges.....I haaaaaaate bullet sponges so much, it just strips out the immersive feeling of the world imo when you hit enemies and it just pops up numbers ofver thier head a la borderlands style. I mean you can have rpg mechanics while not just making enemies "bullet" sponges (see mount and blade for instance). I hope this is something they will build on and look at in some ways, even if it's simply a difficulty setting or something. Yeah, heaven forbid people have a choice in the matter like most other rpgs provide. Not to mention that virtually all other rpgs within this style(deus ex, System shock, dishonored, etc) are mostly strict first person view. Would have been nice to have had the option, even if it is only a vanity camera that you can toggle while not engaged in combat/dialogue, just for walking and exploring, seems like a fairly simple compromise that wouldn't be that hard to offer.
I would still vastly prefer third person but it's what the devs want and this demo is starting to convince me their right . That first shot of walking through the city was incredible it's the type of thing I've always wanted in games,dense real(ish) looking cities, and it's In a cyberpunk world too!
This looks very very good, I also agree that it doesn't yet blow me away in terms of other games coming out. Gameplay looks great, detail looks amazing, RDR2 and TLOU2 look equally as amazing. Looks like gunplay is shaping up nicely! To the other subject that is in this thread, please don't watch any Quentin Tarantino movies or interact with any criminals.
Logic? Common Sense? I don't recognize those stats. You're in the wrong place bucko (seriously though, people just need to grow up)
Three times is quite a lot considering that the game takes place in LA and NOT the UK or Australia. You'd think they'd put in a bit more effort towards representing the fact that the game takes place in America... You fuckin' kiddin' me with this shit? Who the hell wants Sesame Street for adults in this fuckin' thread? Goddammit, man...
It's the same allegory - actually make a better arguement or stop with your disengenious, well, I'd say "points" but you didn't actually make one.
Looks good. Two things that immediately jump out at my that I hope will be addressed as development progresses: - Desperately needs model damage in combat. Combat looks very sterile, and personally, I won't get into the game unless the gunplay is good and all the cool weapons provide the appropriate feedback. - It seems to take a long time to do anything. Not sure how much fun it will be sitting through long cutscenes for every mission.
Glad I'm not the only one. The number of NPCs is impressive but other than that the overall way the game looks is good. Not out of this world. Definitely doable on current consoles from the looks of it.
Just have the discussion, nobody is forcing you to agree with or respond to any posts you dislike or disagree with. Plenty f people have only commented on other aspects of the video. People want to shut down any talk about sexism with quickness.
The shootout at the beginning was unimpressive to me, but all the open world segments were wild. All the world design is really impressive and I love all of the little details I noticed. I'm not a fan of how edgy so much of the dialogue is, even if there were no issues with the gendered slurs it still wouldn't strike me as good. Very curious to see how it shapes up
He's calling the two characters trying to kill him cunts out of an act of anger. It's life or death. This isn't someone serving you at a kiosk who says "hurry up you cunt" when you drop your wallet whilst trying to get your change out because they are agitated the queue is really long. What's with all of these elaborate comparisons to real life combined with stripping all the context out of the scene?
CDPR has earned the right to use whatever language they want. They are known for making quality games with detailed, realized worlds. Just like the real world, not everything is going to swing your way just for you. Some things may shock or offend you. I do not believe for one second that this game is coming from a source that hates women. So I don’t think it’s worth complaining about.
I mean yes girls' blouse does mean that, and does imply that. And yet those phrases are completely different. Also if the circles you exist in are still saying "girls blouse", then dam you old. This is something Grandads used to say to their grandchildren, telling them to toughen up. But ya know most our grandparents were horribly racist and sexist. Not much we can do to change our history. All we can do is be better, and well this is the first time i've heard that phrase in over a decade. The word here has nothing to do with degrading women. As Lashley said above, the word bitch (female dog - aka logic) is used to degrade women.
It seems people are willing to toe this line because it's CDPR. I don't think they would be so lenient with other devs. No doubt if there's any downgrade or outright missing features in this game there'll be a tonne of people suppressing any complaining by referencing that letter. Anyway, it is a molehill so whatever.
Yeah, this is definitely a finely polished main quest. It's probably gonna be like in Witcher 3 - quite a few secondary quests of varying quality, and a ton of "question mark" locations where it's just "kill someone, open chest". One thing I'm wondering is if the whole city is going to consistently be of the detail you see in the video. It's like GTA 5 level of detail turned to 11 - which just seems insane.
My best friends are Mexican. Some things they refer to, they always refer to in Spanish even when they're speaking to me.
I have formally requested CDPR delay this game to 2020 in order for Ray Tracing capabilities on GPUs to have advanced enough for me to be satisfied with the graphics. Sucks for you guys who would settle for less but you can play RDR2 to tide you over.
Yeah if the game's supposed to be set in America having people use cunt as a normal insult is just wildly inaccurate. You'd think they would've done that much research.
Regarding the language stuff, I dont have a problem with the words you guys are discussing. I do have a problem with the writing though. I would never ever said this was something out of the creators of TW3. The side character dude is an walking stereotype. This is legit GTA try hard kind of writing and I am not sure I like it.
What? Aren't they representing that fact quite well? It's supposed to be a harsh insult and use of the word. In the UK and Australia, it's not used quite derogatorily.
This is basically what people are saying. Like, the witcher was hilariously liberal with it's use of the word "arse" everywhere, but the writing quality and delivery were a lot better than what's in this demo. I mean.... "Pull some pants on your culo and get down here." CDPR can and have had a lot better writing quality.
Denny old chap, they only added HDR into Witcher 3 years after the fact. They have Witcher 4, and then whatever else, they're going to be writing a ray trace renderer for this engine regardless. Implementing it into Cyberpunk seems all but inevitable.
Era is descending into the worst type of ultra-politically correct, don't dare offend anyone, ever culture. This isn't meaningful discourse and it's getting completely out of control. If people are unable to grasp the specific context of language and themes in a futureal dystopic video game and feel the need to overanalyse and disproportionately relate everything back to modern society and gender-identity issues (which are of course very real and scary), every one is going to have a bad time. It's a fucking video game, and a brilliant looking one at that. Move on.
I’m sick of that Hispanic seterotype. Not all of us Hispanic/Mexicans speak like that. It’s just nitpicking though. Not really a big deal.
Wow. There goes my life when this game comes out. Loved everything I saw....Except for the shitty “original”, generic dude rock music highlighted that plays in V’s apartment and at the end of the trailer. I’m sure we’ll have options for it, but still just a weird thing to prop up in this video. Hopefully we get more partners than just Jackie too.
The entire entertainment industry is built around the US. It's the same reason why shows have to be completely remade to take place in the US. The reason why there'll never be a mainline GTA set outside the US.
So it seems the problem here is that Americans have a different meaning for "that word" than Europeans. I wonder whether this could be something the devs could exclude from certain countries? For example change the insults to something different for Americans? Either way this gameplay is immense. I was not expecting this today and it's now made me hype as fuck all the way into hopefully the near future.
I get the feeling the press saw something different to this. It's the only explanation I can come up with. Maybe that's why the video took so long to be shown publicly? They were re-recording the demo with console visuals and the press saw something closer to high end PC? It at least gives us a more realistic idea of how it will look. Instead of having another Witcher 3/watchdogs situation.