Politics aside, I find this stuff interesting and appreciate you publishing such personal information.

My 23andme and ancestry.com confirmed some of what we expected, but there were certainly surprises. Came back with appreciable Scandinavian and English genes, which was totally unexpected.

Also came back with some Caucasus genes, which that particular company says appear in Azerbaijan, Turkey, Armenia, Georgia, Iran, Iraq, and Syria. My best friend now jokes that my “Chechen heritage” accounts for my occasionally less-than-placid personality (even though the company doesn’t mention Chechnya, Dagestan, or Ingushetia as part of its “Caucasus” grouping

Many thanks for that – I had wondered if you would do a 23andme test!

Good stuff! Very interesting…..

Thanks for sharing your results. I’ve thought about doing one of the tests, but they’ve had some problem with accuracy, I’ve heard. This involved inconsistent results with different groups of identical triplets. When they get those issues addressed, I might take a test.

He didn’t need the test. He looks and knows he’s black. He might have thought the results would be all white. Wishful thinking and a waste of money.

Aren’t you Middle Eastern? Middle Easterners have black ancestry.

23andMe gives more than just ancestry (e.g. health prognosis), which might be useful too.

Never thank an exhibitionist. They don’t need the encouragement.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/23andme-is-terrifying-but-not-for-the-reasons-the-fda-thinks/

https://squawker.org/culture-wars/dna-testing-companies-like-23andme-admit-adding-fake-african-ancestry-to-white-profiles-in-order-to-screw-with-racists/

The only anomaly I found in my 23&me results was that I was 25% British/Irish (my Dutch and Norwegian ancestors would be surprised). The only thing I could figure was that I had some of my British/Irish wife’s spit in my mouth when I took the sample.

My wife is 1/8 Kalmyk, and the Asian features are obvious (all non-Asians ancestors have been blonde blue-eyed ethnic Poles or ethnic Russians, she has dark eyes and thick straight black “Asian” hair like her 1/4 Kalmyk father and his 1/2 Kalmyk farther), yet 23andme has her as 99.8% European, .2% Mongolian. 23andme probably considers Kalmyks and other obscure Eurasian peoples as Eastern European.

I’ve never had the fortune to see a full photo of Jayman let alone meet him but the limited pictures of his arm and children gave me the impression he was mixed race with some black ancestry. Of the West Indians I’ve got to know I think all those who – to me – looked entirely West African had significant admixture, particularly South Indian. I’d never have guessed before seeing family photos.

Um, no, dude, the explanation is simply that you’re British and Irish.
Swish with water and take another saliva test, and then you’ll have to admit it

From genetic tests, I was likewise surprised that this I likely have a little bit of British genes (5%) and 10% Scandinavian.

Well, guess I’m just your “typical” Italian/Slavic/Swedish/Caucasian/English all-American White mutt

Interesting, thank you.

Realizing, of course, that her grandfather easily could have been much less than half Kalmyk or much more than half. As you probably know, we don’t necessarily inherit such predictable percentages of genes “proportionately” from each race or ethnicity.

For example, my Mom’s genetic tests reported that she is more than 10% “Middle Eastern” (Arab / Sephardic Jew) and several percent Ashkenazi (aka “european Jewish”). But my tests showed 0-1% Middle Eastern and only 1% Ashkenazi Jewish. I apparently inherited a “disproportionately” high share of her Italian genes and almost none of her non-Italian genes.

Hmm … I thought you pretty much have to get half from each parent, and that it is the grandparents’ genomes that can–and do–vary considerably.

I mean, you get one half of each pair of 23 chromosomes from each parent, so each parent ought always to be 50% of your genome. But since your parents do not necessarily give you 50% of each of their parents’ genome–indeed, since 23 is not evenly divisible by 4, they cannot give you 50% of each of their parents’ genomes–you can end up with wildly disproportionate share any of your grandparents’ genomes.

Perhaps unconscious awareness of this has something to do with why grandparents can sometimes take wildly disproportionate interests in different grandchildren.

So in this case they went a bit overboard?

My test came back showing 99.7% Scotch/Irish . My family has been in America since the mid 1800′s and we were told by my Grandmothers when questioning them about our ethnic heritage that we were German and American Indian . We grew up eating scrumptious German cooking . We were also warned when inquiring about our ancestors to beware because we might find out some things we did not want to know . I am not really sure I trust the modern technologies but I do see the application in the end times scenario ie: Revelations 9

Just a tidbit to add. My daughter sent saliva samples to both 23&me and Ancestry.com. The results, surprisingly, at least to me, where within .7% of each other.

In addition, 23&me correctly suggested/identified many relatives out to third cousins.

I seriously doubt these tests are in any way accurate.

Which racists ,Blacks or Latinos

Notwithstanding small allowances for possible mixed-race pairings in your ancestry prior to roughly the Napoleonic era, and for consanguinity, the most parsimonious explanation would seem to be that of your 128 great-great-great-great-great grandparents, visibly 88 were African black, 30 NW European, 5 SE Asian and 5 Chinese.

He didn’t need the test. He looks and knows he’s black. He might have thought the results would be all white. Wishful thinking and a waste of money.

OTOH, I hear 23&Me likes to report POC heritage when there is none just to mess with people…

Do they always clump British and Irish together? Can they separate that? My folks are from the West Coast of Ireland. I would be about 99.99 percent “British and Irish.” Duh.

Pity Ireland and the USA. Each cursed with a West Coast.

I will try 23 and me as well as My Heritage and another site My Ancestry? to see how close they are to each other. I won’t smoke a cigarette before the tests. I’ll pay the bucks because my curiosity is high. That’s why I like Unz review and lots of its commenters.

My father (deceased some 20 plus years) has a very common surname whose families are from Kerry and Cork but his father’s side may have fled to Cree (or also spelled Creagh in County Clare) a very long time ago. His mother was from Connemarra- area west of Maam Cross.

My mother’s heritage is European (I gather?) but remains a mystery so I figure I’ll give it a go.

Is the land cursed in the west or are we talking about liberals? The last thing my pop would ever be was a liberal. Little education but real smart.
I never thought USA West Coast would turn out like it is. Do you think it is because too many East Coast flower power types and pseudo intellectuals moved there starting in the 60s?
Thanks to all for comments. I learn a lot.
I subscribed to The American Conservative when it first came out (I think it was 2002) when Buchanan was leading the fight to not invade Iraq . I didn’t know what role Ron Unz played until I read a recent article. It is a good thing there is a Ron Unz out West.

I am 100% european (40% Spanish, 40% french, 5% basque, 5% Italian, 5% Irish, 3% Portuguese, 2% Sardinian) but my maternal DNA is found almost only among black people L2 like you. That’s fascinating !

I look like Celtic (pale skin, red hair, thin lips, freakles etc)

Looking in specialized site, they say I have a yet to be found haplogroup but the closest are
L2a1c6. (African female heritage in Malta)
L2a1c (n+1) (Bantu from south east to north west Africa )
L2a1c4 (African heritage in Andalusia, my maternally origins are from there)

Are you going to post your updated results, now that 23andme breaks down the results further into specific countries?

I read a newspaper story about that. The results that the triplets got were within the claimed range of accuracy. Mine, for example, has 42% generic British isles, with a range of 9% to 72%. Based on family tree information, it would be 50%. It also showed 8% Scandinavian. I have no known Scandinavian ancestors. That is probably attributable to Viking raiders in the distant past.

Any test that puts ‘Middle Eastern’ and ‘North African’ as a category is not worth doing. In other words, they don’t bother with the genetic difference between [and among!] Egyptians, gulf Saudis and Persians. And any test that doesn’t single out Hungarians and Basques is also not worth doing.

I just learned that you are Native American. To be precise, 0.8% Native American, but that’s enough to establish the truthfulness of my first sentence here.

Which service is it worth using? 23andme, or some others? I know nothing about these, but maybe I’ll do such a test, too.