Streamer Breaks Anthem NDA, loses entire Origin library while recording (UP: Anthem may have been only game in library)
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Yes, I’m aware that the digital purchase agreement says. Basically all digital “purchases” have similar clauses. It’s precisely that which I’m saying is an incredibly shitty state of affairs.
I’d like to see digital purchases guarantee the same rights as physical purchases, like how Nintendo can’t just decide to kick in my door and decided to walk out with my Switch and physical game library if I violate an NDA on a physical game without going through a court of law.
I’d like to see digital purchases guarantee the same rights as physical purchases, like how Nintendo can’t just decide to kick in my door and decided to walk out with my Switch and physical game library if I violate an NDA on a physical game without going through a court of law.
To be clear, that language isn’t from the standard Origin ToS. It’s from the specific NDA for this specific alpha. He signed an agreement for an alpha that stated that he’d lose his account if he broke the terms. He broke the terms, lost his account. Open and shut.
Your physical purchases are also just licenses on a disk. Companies absolutely could revoke access to them, legally-speaking. Practically speaking is another story. Regardless, you’re never going to see digital purchases “guarantee the same rights” as physical, because those rights for physical don’t exist in the first place. You can just circumvent the law with physical due to the nature of the medium.
Your physical purchases are also just licenses on a disk. Companies absolutely could revoke access to them, legally-speaking. Practically speaking is another story. Regardless, you’re never going to see digital purchases “guarantee the same rights” as physical, because those rights for physical don’t exist in the first place. You can just circumvent the law with physical due to the nature of the medium.
Shit like this is why there is an NDA. Because now you've got people that are 'apparently' posting things that they have no idea about.
If he only has this game, they absolutely could. If he has other games, I highly doubt he's permanently lost the licenses to them over this, but they probably just did it temporarily to get him to stop streaming the game.
If he only has this game, they absolutely could. If he has other games, I highly doubt he's permanently lost the licenses to them over this, but they probably just did it temporarily to get him to stop streaming the game.
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Why , to hide their broken game? I don't get it. I been in alphas for too many times point is to test their game and multiplayer parts of them. Is it Alpha test or network server test they should get their priorities right . Whatever not gonna pay any EA title when they come PS PLUS / Xbox Pass etc pretty soon but its sad.
There are limits to the kind of penalties an NDA can enforce. Given game libraries are tied to accounts and the account termination is akin to termination and deletion of a library, I am arguing that it really should not be under the scope of the NDA.
NDAs having financial consequences is fairly common knowledge. Losing ancillary things because the company you signed an NDA with happen to also control a part of your digital property is in my mind onerous and opens a bad precedent.
Origin is small potatoes, but imagine if its Google or Steam.
NDAs having financial consequences is fairly common knowledge. Losing ancillary things because the company you signed an NDA with happen to also control a part of your digital property is in my mind onerous and opens a bad precedent.
Origin is small potatoes, but imagine if its Google or Steam.
If this was an NDA when it involved physical media, which I have been a part of back when the internet was not up to the task of downloading entire games, they would ABSOLUTELY be getting their fucking physical disc back. That is my point. It is 1:1.
You've never been in an actual alpha or beta if you think games should be faultless at that stage. You've just played glorified demos that companies label that way to make you feel special.
Hell, this is an 'alpha' that is still largely a network test, yes. Which is what they said ahead of time.
You've never been in an actual alpha or beta if you think games should be faultless at that stage. You've just played glorified demos that companies label that way to make you feel special.
Hell, this is an 'alpha' that is still largely a network test, yes. Which is what they said ahead of time.
I don’t think you are getting what I’m saying st all. The post I was initially responding to was “I wish this was more like with physical games, where if you broke an NDA Nintendo doesn’t come to your house and take all of your physical Nintendo games”. My point was “EA ain’t doing that here either.”
I've had to sign NDAs for video game QA jobs, it's not that fucking hard to keep your experiences to yourself.
And to the response of EA removing his library, I don't see the problem with it. Seems like a good enough punishment to make people learn their lesson that a temp ban will never teach them. Every digital game has the terms and conditions that you don't fully own it and it can be taken away from you, that's what you are signing when you press 'I Agree'.
And to the response of EA removing his library, I don't see the problem with it. Seems like a good enough punishment to make people learn their lesson that a temp ban will never teach them. Every digital game has the terms and conditions that you don't fully own it and it can be taken away from you, that's what you are signing when you press 'I Agree'.
Why would anyone defend an NDA? I mean, why would anyone defend EA in this? Yeah, he was streaming Anthem, so what? It’s a video game. Am I supposed to feel bad that EA might not be able to have as tightly controlled marketing as they were going to? If anything, this is just another mark against the digital-only future.
This is why people like you should not play and sign for NDAs and testing games, you are clueless and have no idea of how things work in Alpha games.
If people think the Alpha build is the same one that will be available in February should just stop playing games in Alpha state and stop spreading misinformation, the purpose of this test is to TEST the network, if the games breaks or it's bugged it's a normal procedure, there's nothing wrong in this.
If people think the Alpha build is the same one that will be available in February should just stop playing games in Alpha state and stop spreading misinformation, the purpose of this test is to TEST the network, if the games breaks or it's bugged it's a normal procedure, there's nothing wrong in this.