@It was supposed to be the Romans who actually crucified Jesus of course.

What do you mean by “supposed”? We know that the Romans crucified Jesus at the behest of the Jews who hadn’t been able to stone him because he escaped any attempt. And by the Jews own admission they could not follow their own legal procedures. The accusations did not stand.
They did folow them in the case of St. Stephen, who was stoned “legally”, following proper procedure.

Not consistent with what we know of Roman legal procedure. It was supposed to be the Romans who actually crucified Jesus of course.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Stephen#The_Stoning_of_Stephen

By his own account Paul was stoned almost to death .

@his conclusion from textual analysis apparently agrees with what it says in the Talmud

But this is precisely what his “textual analysis” was intent to show. In other words to “interpret” the Scriptures through the Talmud. The whole endeavor of the “high criticism” is to deconstruct the narrative of the primary sources and reconstruct it in conformity with the prejudices of the interpreters. You would notice that such interpretations are always viewed as “challenges” the “very foundations of Christianity”. In that particular case the vast attempt to deny any responsibility of the Jews in the death of Jesus.
The account of the trial and execution is perfectly consistent with what is known of Roman procedure. The Jews were accusing Jesus of sedition and lese-majesty, a false accusation, in front of the Roman authority, precisely because they could not do it in a Jewish court. The Gospels talk of their repeated unsuccesful attempts.
Powell’s book was received with polite derision by the specialists and even with some concern by the purfenders of “Christian antisemitism”, alarmed by the fact that it put the blame directly on the Jews, which “could undoubtedly have anti-Semitic repercussions.”
In fact the passage of the Talmud (Sanhedrin, 43a) is: “Jesus was hanged on Passover Eve. Forty days previously the herald had cried, “He is being led out for stoning, because he has practiced sorcery and led Israel astray and enticed them into apostasy. Whosoever has anything to say in his defense, let him come and declare it.” As nothing was brought forward in his defense, he was hanged on Passover Eve.” It does not “challenge” but confirm the New Testament narrative: “hang him on a tree”, Crucifixion.

During the Yugoslavian war paramilitaries captured enemy families and one type of abuse was, when ordered at gunpoint, some fathers raped their own daughters. Other fathers refused and said they preferred to die. Everyone says they would but there are some who really prefer death before dishonour, and such inviolable principles may be the most important thing about a person or country when it comes down to it, and the truth emerges.

I suppose that just as those fathers were similar people but some put their idea of integrity before life itself, there are differences between closely related countries like Norway and Denmark, and there are things one would do to survive that others would never do. Racism, and tight immigration control is about as acceptable to the politically concerned classes as sexually abusing one’s own children (people speak of “racial abuse”). I think erosion of national and European genetic identity is feared, but no-one has a gun to their head, yet, so anti racist principles are still held to be inviolable by everyone in public life.

As far as I know the cloning of humans has been more or less possible for a while, but the large improvements to IQ that might be possible with genetic engineering is the subject that is carefully avoided, because it brings up the racial disparities that exist. Right now in the UK there are laws against genetically engineering a child to be deaf. When I have heard discussions by gene scientists and ethics academics, they are happy talking about cloning and physical attributes but they will never really accept that intelligence is genetically based rather than a result of upbringing and educational advantages, and we may be able to massively boost IQ. I rather suspect if gene boosting of IQ becomes possible there will be agitation for immigrants, especially black Africans, to be given it free and preferentially.

Again, his conclusion from textual analysis apparently agrees with what it says in the Talmud, and the opinion of experts on the period as to what would have been the fate of anyone saying they were God. The account of the trial and execution is not consistent with what is known of Roman procedure. I did not bring up the issue, and do not pretend to know.

Well, the authority is the Gospel itself:

John 8, 48-59:
48Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil? 49Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me. 50And I seek not mine own glory: there is one that seeketh and judgeth. 51Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death. 52Then said the Jews unto him, Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and thou sayest, If a man keep my saying, he shall never taste of death. 53Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself? 54Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: 55Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying. 56Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. 59Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.”

John, 10, 22-39:
22And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter. 23And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon’s porch. 24Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly. 25Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father’s name, they bear witness of me. 26But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. 27My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father’s hand. 30I and my Father are one.
31Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 32Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 34Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; 36Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? 37If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not. 38But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him. 39Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand”.

The Gospel according to Enoch Powell is just an addition to the heap of BS of “New Testament Textual Criticism”. He wrote his book while in an advanced stage of Parkinson’s disease, a degenerative brain disease, which slowly reduces the ability of the nerves to control the muscles (so one may wonder if he really was able to write it in the first place). Mild memory difficulties and diminished capacity to reason or concentrate are relatively common early symptoms which may (in most cases) evolve in dementia.

You quoted van Creveld above on the relevance of technological developments. If genetic replication of particular sets of genes just becomes a trivial technical matter, then people may regard it as even more nihilistic and meaningless than they already do:

https://news.yahoo.com/china-clone-factory-scientist-eyes-human-replication-061141389.html

We don’t care that much about those modern border lines. The important thing is for all tribes to head for the mountains and relax , while the Unters do their stuff. After that we come back.

Burzum live;)

I suppose the post being about Norway, we should allow that nation state has emergent qualities: special characteristics. If everything boils down to what lets our bloodline go on, more of less as it has in historical time, that is a lowest common denominator analysis, which many modern thinkers might well consider to be nihilistic compared to some irreducible core of values.

There are things some people (and countries) would prefer death to, and Norway may just be a country that prefers to be destroyed rather than bend to the requirements of genetic survival. I’m sure they could (Christianity-style) think of such a refusal to submit to nihilistic necessity as a victory over death.

I have heard an authority on the period say that if anyone had publicly said he was God he would have been immediately stoned to death, and when Enoch Powell’s book was published it was noted that his conclusion is agreement with what it says in the Talmud.

@The pagan sources are interesting, however, because they are earlier and more complete

Would you care to indicate more in detail these sources prior to Celsus (writing at about 180AD) who criticized the Christians’ beliefs precisely by expressing the views of the Jews?
A short sample of his arguments: Christ did not fulfil the Messianic expectations of the Hebrew people. Christ, he says, claimed to be of virgin birth; in reality, He was the illegitimate son of a Jewish village woman, the wife of a carpenter, convicted for adultery . . During the course of His public ministry Christ could not convince His countrymen that His mission was divine. As followers He had ten or twelve “infamous publicans and fishermen”. Such is not the company that befits a god. He upbraids those Jews who, “abandoning the law of their fathers”, allowed themselves to be deceived by one whom their nation had condemned, and changed their name from Hebrew to Christian. Jesus did not fulfil His promises to the Jews; instead of succeeding as they should have expected the Messias to succeed, and more…(actually some are already in the Gospels).
BTW “it is generally supposed that Celsus was a Roman. His intimate acquaintance, however, with the Jewish religion and his knowledge, such as it was, of Egyptian ideas and customs incline some historians to think he belonged to the Eastern portion of the empire”. Was he actually a Jew however much “hellenized”?

My impression is that anti-hate laws are more draconian in continental Europe than in Great Britain.

Because they do not have the jury system, prosecutors have more powers in countries like Germany and France and Italy (ask Amanda Knox) but in general Britain has the most Draconian legislation which date from the 68 and 76 race law (intended to silence Enoch Powell). For example, in the 2013 aftermath of people noticing the child sex slaves everyone knew about for decades

AS long ago as 2001, Nick Griffin, the leader of the BNP, was making claims about Asian grooming gangs. In 2004 he repeated these allegations in a speech clandestinely recorded by the BBC for a TV documentary, Secret Agent. He was arrested and charged with inciting racial hatred. Which is exactly what he was doing, of course. He was making his allegations to stir up ethnic strife. The political Establishment, conscious of the BNP’s record as liars, therefore presumed, fatally and glibly, that Griffin’s accusations were just racist demagoguery. The result? No doubt Griffin feels vindicated today: for telling the truth before anyone else. And yet, paradoxically, it was his thuggish intervention that gave society another excuse to ignore the scandal. And thus the abuse continued.
Editor’s note: In the original version of this post, Sean Thomas’s copy was edited in a way that made it appear that he was blaming Griffin for the grooming. He did not do so, and the final paragraph now reflects his true opinion. We apologise to Sean for the confusion this has caused.

It’s always the same, you bring it up and you caused it to become a toxic issue; they were just about to deal with it, but now they can’t because you mentioned it. The exact same thing was said about Powell, who supposedly caused post 1968 mass immigration into Britain.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/christ-was-not-crucified-says-enoch-powell-1383775.html

@Who do you believe was Jesus’s real father?

You know when Christmas or Easter approach by the sudden flow of “new groundbreaking historical biographies of Jesus” which “challenge the Gospel account” and with the aid of “fresh translations and interpretations” and “juxtaposing them to what was likely the Judaism of his time” “enable us to appreciate him as a human being”.
The unique source of these claims is the Jewish one. The “pagan” ones are just echoing this “source”. Same as the “Professor in the Department of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte”, James Tabor.
The “real” father of Jesus Christ, God the Son is God the Father. The Gospels are historical sources and they should be taken into consideration in the first place. But today as already in the time of St. Paul people would “give heed to fables and endless genealogies” and “they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears”.

Interesting. I didn’t know Mainline denominations were promoting literalism into the 70s. I knew they were more conservative in the past of course, but now literalism tends to be associated with Evangelicals.

I assumed you weren’t Unitarian in denomination since you mentioned that you were part of the United Church in the past but was no longer a part of any church. I suppose what I meant to ask was if you had a more unitarian view of Christ to go along with, or perhaps as a consequence of, your less literal view of the Bible.

Peter,

Are you Unitarian in your beliefs? I think you mentioned in the past that you were a member of the United Church, which from what I understand is, or at least was, a Trinitarian, Mainline Protestant denomination.

I don’t know that there is really a great anti-immigrant feeling in Britain among socially concerned people. I have heard extreme anger by gentle Scots against tiny isolated far right type marches locally, especially in the aftermath on the Paris attack, apparently because the common indigenous population are regarded as not really holding British values and liable to go berserk at the drop of a hat. I think laws targeting indigenous community are there because the much trumpeted values are thought to be a veneer. The establishment position is that the values are the thing that makes the world go round, while genetic differences around the world are supposed to be due to drift.

Who do you believe was Jesus’s real father? Is there a possibility it was a white European male?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/03/us-europe-migrants-arctic-idUSKCN0R325N20150903

The funny thing is that Norway can’t perceive the flow of “refugees” (who will never go home of course) being facilitated by Russia as the attack on Norway that is probably in retaliation for Norwegian sanctions .

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/11/20/a-very-cold-war-on-the-russia-norway-border-syrian-refugees-bicycles/ Even some of Norway’s more Russian-friendly politicians and analysts have begun accusing Moscow of facilitating the sudden surge in asylum-seekers as retribution for sanctions over the Ukraine conflict, a claim Russia denies.

Assad would like the young men of the troublesome Sunni majority population to leave, and dry up the rebel FSA recuits. Islamic State was probably created by Assad partially as a a way of creating an exodus of refugees. Mobilised third world populations are the century’s secret weapons against the indigenous West, and it’s not just foreign elites who are glad.

Nation states can’t survive in perpetual peace, that much is now clear. Rich countries have a population that feels secure. Immigration is not seen as an external threat, that is why other nations occupying Norwegians’ land it is not reacted to like the prospect f an invasion from another state. A real threat from a foreign state would not be ignored even if it was very tenuous, like the Russian one is. People have frequently suspected the government of creating false threats.

Here’s an example of this sort of thing from the “nation-state” of Texas:

“ISIS Has Threatened My Motherland The Great Republic Of Texas & My Warning To Them”

I read an hypothesis once that St George’s father may have been an officer in the Roman Army.

“Survival of our values has come to be seen as paramount”.
That’s a good point Sean. Survival of an idea not a people. But it isn’t European values that are being preserved. Europeans are not naturally integrationists; hence sites like this. Why are the English so weighed down by hate legislation? Answer: because the English have always been rude about anyone who isn’t English. Hence the need for hate (rude actually) speech legislation.

Immigration is not seen as an external threat, that is why other nations occupying Norwegians’ land it is not reacted to like the prospect f an invasion from another state. A real threat from a foreign state would not be ignored even if it was very tenuous, like the Russian one is.

Here’s an example of this sort of thing from the “nation-state” of Texas:

The strange thing now is that what science seems to support (ie having a bias for the survival of your kind), which must be natural if that word has meaning, is seen as nihilistic. Survival of our values has come to be seen as paramount, while thoughts of biological continuation are supposed to be due to a virulent myth that is especially endemic among north Europeans.

“As a matter of fact, I think you should start the ball rolling bright and early Monday morning, by sending a mass email stating such to your entire company.”

Ni**a, you mus’ be craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazy.

Did some decades ago.

It’s also possible that his father was not of Jewish origin, and that would have made him even more marginal.

His Father was God.

So, Burzum records robots having a gargling contest?

That account of his youth also struck me as very plausible.

I know, I know : “De gustibus no est disputandum”, but Varg’s metal is where it’s at (if you’re open to weird metal music, that is). His keyboard stuff is abominable.

Sami are no more indigenous than any other Euro groups. They’re all descended from ancient Europeans. Genetically, the Sami look very similar to Russians–and no one says the Russians are “indigenous” but the Norwegians aren’t.

Please leave Europe. Bye bye.

@Emperor Constantine declares Christianity as the only official religion of the Roman Empire.

No, he did not. The repetition of this myth only demonstrates the ignorance of all pretended “historians” of Europe.
As an aside. The “nordic peoples” are in fact outsiders of European civilization.

Hi there, Peter.

I really enjoy your writing, and I’m always looking forward to new words from you. Let me tell you about something funny that took place in Norway after the Paris-situation sametime as we were saturated with young, stupid, strangerly, angry men our women liked to call children. Well that is now over. The emperor is naked. We now witness Sweden collapse and laugh halfheartedly ’cause we know we’re up next, and suddenly the people the stupid ruling people liked to use their mediapower to try to crush, get access and the people hear them. The tone has changed dramatically. It is now suddenly ok to do some simple math, and show plainly and simply that this is crazyness. Like Hege Storhaug, a brave woman, hated by the feminists and marxists. She ‘s now close to winning the title ” The name of the year” in VG , a stupid paper, but of course they’ll rig it so somebody else wins it, but it doesn’t really matter, she’s already won, but the MSM-press still doesn’t understand that their time is gone. Normal people are no longer scared by the traitors and wont keep their mouth shut any longer. It’s actually kind of nice;)

Document.no is the only real source of information you should use as a source to understand Norway, and they are Christian. The editors name is Hans Rustad and he is an honourable man. Well, me as a pagan, I still donate 30 pounds a month to them because they are not lying. I don’t care about their religion or their Israel-support as long as they keep delivering the thruth.

I wish you a merry Christmas and also to the rest of the Unz-writers and of course to the chief editor Ron Unz.

You are doing a really important job, and we are lucky to read the benefits.

One love

TB

That is true, Europe used to be European. A little Christmas story about how Christianity made its way. Summarised from Vlasis Rassias’ book “DEMOLISH THEM..”, published in Greek, Athens 2000 (2nd edition), Anichti Poli Editions, ISBN 960-7748-20-4:

314
Immediately after its full legalisation, the Christian Church attacks the Gentiles: The Council of Ancyra denounces the worship of Goddess Artemis.

324
Emperor Constantine declares Christianity as the only official religion of the Roman Empire. At Dydima, Asia Minor, he sacks the Oracle of God Apollo and tortures its Pagan priests to death. He also evicts the Gentiles from Mt. Athos and destroys all local Hellenic Temples.

The churches were burnt because they were built without permission on holy ground. Simple as that.

Christianity contained the rationale for favouring outsiders for a millenia. The churches only made it a tenet of faith requiring action for influencing policy recently. I think that had something to do with intolerance of victories by indigenous working class organisation. The collapse of organised labour and their political influence has gone hand in hand with immigration, and business interests were behind those changes, which were very profitable for them. I think the churches were coopted into being the ideological wing of a project to break the power of labour. By themselves churches are unlikely to come up with such radical changes in the way their long standing religion is understood.

Maybe the church burners were not thinking of a direct connection between Christianity and replacement immigration, but I think a few realised that the churches were agitating against the interests of the common people of their nation. Religion is effectively a shill for global hypercapitalism now.

The fellow musician, named Aarseth, was not good. He took pictures of Per Ohlin after Per killed himself and used it in a commercial way to sell more records. That is the opposite of honour. If you listen to the interviews Aarseth gave, you will quickly find out he’s fake.

This tune might be the peak of Burzum:

I’d also sympathize with him a lot, if it weren’t for the fact that he killed his effing fellow musician.

Peter,

Do you have any actual data to back up your claim that support for immigration played any role in the church burnings or the violent anti-Christian sentiment of the black metal scene in general?

I used to listen to black metal (I occasionally still do), and read a lot of interviews, and the only musician I can name who even brought up immigration is Varg Vikernes, and I think even he only brought it up several years later, already in prison. In other words, I don’t think immigration was much on the minds of these musicians. Or maybe I just didn’t pay attention (at the time I didn’t care for immigration at all).

Good portion of what we identify as ”scientific leftism” is not so different than ”scientific creationism”, i mean, a toxic mixture between scientific narrative, with many partial trues, with a BELIEF/wishfull thinking system.

Scientific leftism take the best of christianism narrative: ”we are the same”, blablabla, the historical – ”philosophical” component of european liberal revolutions (english, french, russian) and of many genuine scientifical insights as ”evolution/natural selection”.

Varg is actually a really funny guy, who doesn’t take himself too seriously, but he is well respected and has honour. He just finished and published a mythical role playing game, called MYFAROG. His music speaks for itself.

Racial supremacism of nordics and germans (basically, northern europeans) COMBINED with protestantism (a summarized and more objective christianism***) is to self-cultural preservation among them before judaico-marxism assault while among southern europeans, higher rates of endogamy have filled this need. A racial cultural differentiation (even exageration) among northern europeans had filled the lack of endogamic patterns, i think.

Aristotelis and Plato were ”alpine” and ”nordic” is not**

Well, i just quoted Carleton Coon and other older racial anthropologist. Seems epicenter of european civilization had been specially in central Europe, Germany, France and northern Italy.

“All the former communist countries of Central and Eastern Europe cluster togethe”

No, they don’t. They do not cluster at all. Just measure the distances and look at the discontinuities. Hungary, Lithuania – yes, they cluster. But then you have huge discontinuity and Czechs, Slovenia, Croatia decisively clustering more with western Europe. Poland is clustering more with India/Turkey (absurd, but this is how it looks). UNless you do not understand what “cluster” is.

Remove the names and colours, give this chart to someone and ask him/her to draw cluster. No way he/she would cluster together all Central and Eastern-Europen Slavic countries together.

Look at the distance of Czech from Western Germany and Russia. How’s come Czech are outlier or Russia, and not of Western Germany? Look at the Croatia and distance from Spain and from Russia. How’s come it’s outlier of orthodox eastern, not of Latin western civilisation?

Distance between Poland and Russia is almost the same as between Poland and Czech and Western Germany. And Poland is closer on this map to Spain, Italy, and France. Arguably, on this map Poland is more outlier of Latin civilisation than of orthodox.

You just decided a priori there are just three civilisation and THEN you decided to fit the data into your prior. If you will see at this map, but also at map at Jayman (e.g. metal band per head, or corruption, or any other) you will not see Poland, or Czech, or Croatia as “outliers” of Alpine Eastern Orthodox civilisation, especially since Poland is neither Alpine (anthropologically, percentage of nordics similar to Germany), nor Orthodox.

In fact, if you look just at WVS map, you are forced to conclude that France, Belgium, Austria, Great Britain cluster together making core of Europe, while Nordic Countries, Czech, Croatia are outliers from this common core.

@In contrast, Scandinavian, Germanic in general, always seemed very correct in the literal interpretation of biblical teachings

It is precisely the domain in which they went haywire, like in all their philosophy (except Leibniz). Their so-called high criticism did immeasurable harm. By the way, paving the way for the phantasmagoric “new religions”.

“Hypocrisy, often unconscious, is signal-to-lower cognitive ability, ie, understanding the dominant cultural system and acting ”coherently”. Or it can also be sign to less morality (subjective). ”

Yer right, Latins are obviously primitive wogs like Aristotle and Plato. Clearly their views on political ideology are down to primative hypocrisy and couldn’t be anything to do with being part of an older and more mature civilisation.

My I remind you that sophisticated north Europeans also invented Nazism. They may be good scientists and engineers but they still have a lot to learn about the world of politics.

This is again a case of “historians” with an anti-Christian agenda turning facts on their head.
The “Saxon Wars” were primarily a continued fight between barbarians. They have not been initiated by “the Christians” in order to convert the freedom loving Saxons, but to curb their plundering expeditions in the lands under Frankish rule. The Christianization of Germany starts well before Charlemagne, through the efforts of Irish, Scottish and English missionaries (St. Columban, St Boniface).
The immediate cause of the Saxon Wars under Charlemagne was the sack and burning of the church in Deventer by a Saxon expedition. The much-vaunted massacre of Verden (which occurred ten years later had little to do with “imposing Christianity”as such. It was an execution for high treason after repeated rebellions and attacks on the churches. The leader of the rebellions, Widukind submitted eventually and received the baptism.

well, that brings up the history of Darwinian social thought in the US. Carl Degler’s In Search of Human Nature, is a good history of of socio-biology, and more recently, HBD. He does not, as I recall, give an exact date for the eclipse of Darwinism, but to my surprise reading his book, Darwinian thinking was never killed off, but the assault of the Jews starting with Franz Boas was determinant. And this assault began in the 1920s as those jews whom the nasty nordics wanted kept out, brought their communism and intellectual subversion from Europe and began their campaigns for Human Dignity, Rights of Man, and Racial Equality.

Hitler than delivered the coup of sorts, and yes, the American Model, of liberty for all in the service of international capital, began. We reconstructed Germany and Japan to our liking, meaning the liberal internationalism in which race consciousness had and has no place. Equality, particularly racial, is required for the smooth functioning of markets.

Innocence with regard to the age in Norway, that I noticed as the benchmark age for Norwegians starting to wake up and smell the wretched, was roughly 40. That loss of Innocence I was writing about was personal, not geo-political.

Of course, the American Empire of Sorts, forced Negro soldiers into Germany, etc. And Germans got the offer they could not refuse, given the wiping out of German POWs and displaced Germans walking home from places like Poland and Czechoslovokia. The revisionist historians place the dead in the millions…and I dunno about the German POWs who disappeared in the Gulags.

So, race science became HItlerian, and the holocaust was thrown into the propaganda stew. Quite a powerful concoction. Then, add to that the decolonization of the 5os and 60s…let my People Go….and I bought this stuff, as a young man with too much altruism, and a left homelife.

So anyway, the Innocence about Racial reality is hitting the Wall, along with the Negroes hitting their own Wall, of incompetence and stupidity, and the rest of it. Hitting the Wall forces a re-think, or, in the case of Negroes, going berserk since they are hopeless. It becomes murderous.

A friend of mine who just attended a Climate Change protest rally in Oakland , CA. put a sign together: Earth Matters. He was hassled by some Negroes (Oakland) and one specimen followed him to his car and informed him that soon they, the negroes, were going to start killing Whites. I guess he was uninformed that they have been doing this for years.

The whole race liberation thing is starting to blow up on the college campuses, with one story after another getting more and more bizarre. Detroit on every college campus, with a cop on every corner. I loved Richard Pryor decades ago. ” you wanna know why us niggers do so much cutting’? cuz we ain’t got no guns.”

So America’s Age of Innocence in all respects is grinding to a halt, racial , economic, and political. What is coming is a period of great conflict.

Joe Webb

Skip the metal, it’s time for Christmas music!

There are times when I think that when a white society starts making life too comfortable for its citizens, some sort of Darwinian gene asserts itself and tries to make life as hard as possible so that whites and their culture won’t commit suicide from sheer feebleness. Why else are whites importing an underclass that will take jobs away from it, rape its women, rob its poor and elderly, and pay large sums of cash to foreign loafers by taxing its own middle class to death so it can barely afford to breed and raise its own children, etc. There honestly seems to be something more at work here than just crack-brained liberal political (theo)-ideology.

What difference does that make? Your point that Norway gained independence in 1905 is irrelevant (and by the way, I did correct you about the date – see my previous post). The Norwegians were a distinct group of people, and one that did not acquire a colonial empire. So your obnoxious contention that the author needs to study more history has no basis.

You have me totally confused. What are you saying? Indeed what and who are you replying to?

What have Sikhs got to do with Christians, or Muslims for that matter?

Not just the North, Romans were forcibly converted to Christianity, too.

Catholic people SPECIALLY latin ones seems very hypocritical about follow (subjective/contextual) moral laws of christianism. just look for description of mediterranean subrace ”character” to understand this bio-social dynamic, a abrahamic religion acting as blocking of the most ardent sexual urges among mediterranean peoples but not totally.

In contrast, Scandinavian, Germanic in general, always seemed very correct in the literal interpretation of biblical teachings, before the cultural Marxism. Now they have become the most cohesive in the new religion. Hypocrisy, often unconscious, is signal-to-lower cognitive ability, ie, understanding the dominant cultural system and acting ”coherently”. Or it can also be sign to less morality (subjective). But it may be only a very stereotypical impression of European subraces.

Eurasian masses seems ‘evolved” exactly like that, i mean, to understand the dominant cultural system and adapting subsequently while true philosophers tend to pervade this border between follow and create/understand/perceive and propose new dimensions of morality/behavior.

Outstanding piece, looking forward to commenting more later. For now:

“Why this hostility to Christianity? And why is it more extreme in Norway?

Calls to mind the entry for that nation in The Onion’s world atlas:

Norway:
Suppressing the urge to chop you in half with an axe

Or look on World Value Survey maps. Czech outlier of the same civilisation as Russia?

All the former communist countries of Central and Eastern Europe cluster together, with the core states of Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Bulgaria and Montenegro clustering especially closely.

You’ll notice that the Mediterranean-Latin-Catholic nations are tightly grouped as well, from Greece and France down to Portugal and Argentina.

Protestant Europe and the English-speaking world sandwich Belgium, Luxembourg and Austria to make up the Nordic-Germanic-Protestant bloc.

Jesus, it so ignorant that I just lack words to express my disdain.

Maybe you need a thesaurus.

I saw it the first time. That’s not a picture of a black man. That’s a picture of a scruffy, olive skinned Caucasoid, a type common in the Mediterranean.

In fairness, the history about the metalhead attacks on Lutheran churches was interesting. I used to know a guy who was a fan of a Norwegian metal group, TNT, so I got to know about their lead guitarist, Ronnie Le Tekro. I dont’ know how famous they are, I just knew about them. Ronnie dismissed Christianity as a “bunch of middle eastern fairy tales.” This post puts his comments in better perspective.

As to those commenters who helpfully corrected me by pointing out that Norway was independent in the 13th century, oh please. I was referring to recent history. Perhaps you’d like to cite some Paleolithic examples of Norwegian nationhood? Bronze Age? You might have pointed out that Norway separated from Sweden in 1905. I was off a year.

Nation states can’t survive in perpetual peace, that much is now clear. Rich countries have a population that feels secure. Immigration is not seen as an external threat, that is why other nations occupying Norwegians’ land it is not reacted to like the prospect f an invasion from another state. A real threat from a foreign state would not be ignored even if it was very tenuous, like the Russian one is. People have frequently suspected the government of creating false threats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Report_from_Iron_Mountain (1967)The heavily footnoted report concluded that peace was not in the interest of a stable society, that even if lasting peace “could be achieved, it would almost certainly not be in the best interests of society to achieve it.” War was a part of the economy. Therefore, it was necessary to conceive a state of war for a stable economy. The government, the group theorized, would not exist without war, and nation states existed in order to wage war. War also served a vital function of diverting collective aggression. They recommended that bodies be created to emulate the economic functions of war. They also recommended “blood games” and that the government create alternative foes that would scare the people with reports of alien life-forms and out-of-control pollution.

The foe has become the majority of the population, whose ethnic homogeneity makes them potentially a rival power base. Moreover they not needed as cannon fodder and are blaise. The foreign immigrants are the new friends of the elite and the state, and the social capital of immigrants is boosted by claiming they are the subject of prejudice and discrimination. Mark my words, Jihadist terror attacks are creating a massive surveillance and a disaster for indigenous nationalists, who will become the threat that the security apparatus will be turned on.

There is some hope howerver:_

http://www.martin-van-creveld.com/?p=451 First, both assume that the end of the Cold War did in fact represent a critical turning point in history. Either such as marked the end of one kind of conflict and the beginning of another (Huntington); or that represented the beginning of a process which would eventually culminate in a world without war and thus to the End of History (Fukuyama).

Second and perhaps even more important, both focus on what, for lack of a better term, I shall call spiritual factors. For Fukuyama, the paramount one is ideology. For Huntington, it is identity. In doing so they leave out any other number of factors that have always led, and presumably will continue to lead, to war in the future too. Chief among them are technological developments; competition for economic resources in a world where such resources are said to become less and less plentiful; and, over-arching everything else, the “perpetual and restless desire for power after power that ceaseth only in death” (Thomas Hobbes). The least one can say is that, in any attempt to understand the future of war, these factors must take a paramount place side by side with those Fukuyama and Huntington have focused on.

As Mearsheimer (who advised Ukraine to have an independent nuclear deterrent andpredicted Ukraine’s troubles if it didn’t 20 years before the event) says, negative consequences flow from “ policy that assumes good faith in the future does not seek survival above all else, and amounts to “foolish behavior”.

[...] Given the difficulty of determining how much power is enough for today and tomorrow, great powers recognize that the best way to ensure their security is to achieve hegemony now, thus eliminating any possibility of a challenge by another great power. Only a misguided state would pass up an opportunity to be the hegemon in the system because it thought it already had sufficient power to survive

Norway is not being made stronger by taking in immigrants, but it is not going to be disabused unless it gets a threat it can recognise.

That won’t be easy. No one wants to be a “bad” person, and in a conformist society like Norway a rule-breaker is “bad” no matter how stupid the rule may seem. As long as the rule is affirmed and never challenged, people will obey and make others obey. Only when enough people challenge it—openly and defiantly—will the moral consensus weaken and collapse. To get from here to there will be difficult but it can be done. Rules of sexual morality were deconstructed. Why not antiracism?

It is like a bird realising that its nest contains a cuckoo egg, if the cuckoo chick has been removed when their mother comes back to check, the genuine chicks are attacked. It’s safer to go along.

The “innocence” was a construct of the post-1945 American Empire:

http://conswede.blogspot.com/2008/07/social-paradigms-shift-eg-our-view-on.html

To illustrate what I talk about. Louis Armstrong visited Sweden in 1933. In all the news papers he was describe as something monkey-like let loose from the jungle. All across the line! And in the reviews by the most serious music critics.

Who would have imagined in 1933, that twelve years later Western Europe would undergo an America-led cultural revolution which would lead to the common belief that there are no differences between races?

Translation of two of the quotes:

Knut Bäck in Göteborgs-Posten, November 1933:
“This world is strange… No protests are raised against how the jungle is let loose into the society. Armstrong and his band are allowed to freely wreak destruction.”

Sten Broman in Sydsvenskan, November 1933:
“Dare I say that he at times had something monkey-like about him and sometimes reminded of, according to our perceptions, a mentally disturbed person, when he pouted with his mouth or gaped it to its widest open and roared like a hoarse animal from a primeval forest.”

The third quote compares the concert with a natural disaster, and Armstrong’s trumpet with a hell machine. The only good thing coming out of it, he says, is that it solves to old dispute of whether monkeys have a language.

This is what Europe looked like, up until 1945. And since some people will live under the misconception that this was a phenomenon of the ’30s, I here provide a quote from the Swedish Encyclopedia, Nordisk Familjebok, the 1876-1899 edition (here and here).

“Psychologically the negro can be said be on the level of a child, with vivid fantasy, lack of endurance, … can be said to lack morality rather than being immoral … etc.”

Even though the point here has been to illustrate how social paradigms can shift completely in short time (and this is just one out of numerous examples), let me add how up until 1945 all the focus was put on the differences between races, and after that all the focus has been put on what is equal (while ignoring differences).

Old quote from the half-Jewish Moldbug: “I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the European ruling class holds essentially the same perspectives that were held at Harvard in 1945. The US Army did not shoot all the professors in Europe and replace them with Yankee carpetbaggers, but the prestige of conquest is such that it might as well have”

Scandi”naiveans” are just adapted/decanted high functioning autism. They can done beautiful things but a lot of (, many, most**) them seems unable to see intellectually analytical and critical and surprise, about THEMSELVES. Why they think they are directly guilt by slavery in Africa***

Because they are overwhelming ”blue eyes” or because their average-high iq, most of people here think they are just ”naive”. But naivety, specially this kind of ”naivety”, can also be treated without any problem as ”stupidity”. Humans at individual levels will be smart for some aspects/dimensions of intellect and stupid for others.

Many artistic european geniuses made beautiful paintings, sculptures to the christianism but most them seems unable to be critic to the story of bible (sacred bubble).

I was in Norway 5 years ago for almost 3 weeks driving around. The kids are knee-jerk about race, but polite (White ). The age of lost innocence is about 40 there. Those folks are wising up. One gal summed it up…We were very naive.

Joe Webb

nice….but what type of alcohol makes any difference?

Kevin MacDonald is working on a new book on the origins of the white race. He identifies, hunter gatherers of the north, farmers from middle east, and aristocratic warrior societies of the Indo-European type (yet nevertheless with military careers open to talent) as the 3 lineages.

It seems that the Homer/ Iliad account is an example of the latter. What is far from clear to me is how the Warrior societies differ ethnically from the apparent cradle of the White race in the area around Ukraine and Black Sea.

I assumed that the invasion/incursions into India which happened apparently around the same time as Mycennae and the Trojan War, was all part of the diaspora out of the Ukraine area.

The DNA evidence is getting better and better, with a recent story in jrewyorktimes pushing back homo sapiens to 41,000 years ago in Europe…that represents one very long sojourn in the cold North, with the last Ice Age over about 10,000 years ago…lot of deselection of dummies under the snow and ice and cold.

Joe Web

“Wait a minute. Stronger individualism, but more effective consensus-forcing? This is a total logical contradiction.”

Not really, and you have to think about it some. Individualism when it comes to thinking, simply because of the individualist tendency itself, to go it alone, etc. requires rules which are different than rules in collectivist society. Collectivist society has “rules” but they are not “conscious” and thought out. One obeys the herd because the brain, or “lower brain” is simply following the genetic stamp. There is no consideration or even consciousness of the Rule. No Socratic dialogue, or (self) meditation. Just do what the tribe does, got it? End of Story.

In individualist societies, the Rules have been very much thought out. And the Story continues. For example making murder a public concern larger than simply a private compensating of a family for their murdered victim is an act of Thinking. Homicide was invented as a rule that works better than private agreements of compensation that are easily avoided and/or subverted by blood feuds.

Thus more intelligence finds it way in individualist societies. The need for a Rule to enforce the social peace becomes clear. And the rules become more and more widespread, to cover more and more aspects of social life. Bureaucracy replaces individual combat and blood feud.

This piece reads a lot like a Kevin MacDonald discussion of the North and its hunter-gatherer genetic foundation. One of the features of a hunter -gatherer society is relative egalitarianism, the need for food sharing, and egalitarianism socially to keep the Strong Man from going too far. The Icelandic Sagas describe relatively democratic arrangements to keep the social peace, with chiefs subject to criticism, and containment of their personal power. Exile was the price for anyone going too far, politically or criminally.

So today the Scandinavians, despite having a meritocratic social arrangement, their meritocracy is totally different, say, than the chinese who have a species of meritocracy.

You may be richer than me, but you are not any better than me….etc. for Scandinavians. The Chinese…forget it…you number 10…outta here!

So, once an egalitarian psychology is genetically established, the Swede etc welcomes the stranger…even, you know..

Thus there is no contradiction between Individualism and ‘consensus forcing’. But you have to think about it. The ‘forcing’ aspect is part of the Rule/Order impulse of the North. This also developed in the northern churches, Protestants. Puritans were out to build the City on a Hill, a jewish totalitarian tendency from the OT which Protestants used to enforce Purity and Rules.

Is there a latent collectivism possible in all of this? Of course, because man is a social animal, and a collectivism will be heard when Threats are felt, viscerally, not intellectually.
The Threat is here now, and the intellectual in his church or parlor, safe so far, will undergo a sharp emotional storm when the muzzies and africans go after his daughter, his wife, or his wallet..big time.

Maybe even the liberal will put his children first….now that would be a real breakthrough, assuming he has any kids, having spent his useless life digging wells in Africa.

As for Breivik, he should be broken out of jail and executed…killing children.
Joe Webb

Interesting about Breivik hanging out with Muslims as a youth. I suspected he must have internalized some Muslim norms given the characteristics of his rampage. I used to document Muslim terrorism in various hotspots, and a pattern I came across was attacks on family members/clans. Weddings, funerals, family gatherings and such were common targets.

Breivik deliberately targeted his enemies’ children, and I thought it was kind of remarkable how similar this was to incidents I read about from Kashmir, Iraq, etc. Makes sense from a Muslim perspective given clan loyalty and such.

Once again, you are totally wrong. You have a theory and you are force anything to fit your theory, no matter the facts.

Poland, Czech and other use more and more beer and are catholics.

Anthropologically, Poland, Belarus have as many nordics as Germany.

Genetically, autosomal differences between
Southern Germany and Northern Germany: 1.08

Southern Germany and Poland 1.23
Northern Germany and Poland 1.13

Southern Germany and Sweden 1.22
Northern Germany and Sweden 1.12

Poland and Sweden 1.3

Just read some Koneczny for fucks’ sake for example. In his classification Poland is Latin civilisation, Rusian are Byzantine-Turan, Germany is Bizantine.

Or look on World Value Survey maps. Czech outlier of the same civilisation as Russia? Jesus, it so ignorant that I just lack words to express my disdain.

I’m hardly an expert but wasn’t the universalism of Christianity strictly one of mission and conversion, of spreading the gospel, in which only a minority would be saved? For the rest, the vast majority, there would be gnashing of teeth in outer darkness? I don’t recall Jesus being ecumenical.

Thanks JayMan! Can it be that the Hajnal line will determine whether nations survive?

This also reflects certain profound psychological traits that characterize Northwest Europeans in general, with Scandinavians forming the epicenter.

Scandinavia is the core of Nordic-Germanic-Protestant Europe because Scandinavians are more Nordic (taller, higher % of blond hair & blue eyes), more Germanic (fewer Latin, Celtic and Slavic influences on Scandi languages & bloodlines), and more Protestant (100% conversion of population to Protestantism 500 years ago) than anyone else.

These distinct racial and cultural traits have made them simultaneously the most socially and technologically advanced societies on Earth, and also the most naive and suicidal.

Germany, Holland and Britain are also Nordic, Germanic and Protestant, but somewhat less so than the Scandinavians. Then the partial outliers (Finland, Ireland, Belgium, Switzerland, the Anglo settler societies) round out the Northwest European nations.

The other two European meta-cultures are the Mediterranean-Latin-Catholic one in the South, and the Alpine-Slavic-Orthodox one in the East.

The core of the former are Italy, France, Spain and Portugal. The outliers are Greece, Cyprus, Malta and last remaining Euro-majority nations in Latin America, Argentina and Uruguay.

The core of the latter are Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, and the Slavic Orthodox nations in the Balkans. The outliers include all the post-communist countries of Central and Eastern Europe, except East Germany.

These three sub-civilizations are also divided on the most fundamental Western cultural preference of them all: alcoholic beverage of choice. In the north they prefer beer; in the south, wine; and in the east, spirits (mostly vodka).

The beer-drinking northerners economically out-compete both the wine-drinking southerners and vodka-drinking easterners, but they’re plagued by a pathological altruism that’s much less apparent in the south, and practically non-existent in the east.

And the Scandinavians are the most northerly of the northerners, in terms of both geography and behaviour. So, feeling guilty about their societal superiority — guilt-proneness and efficiency are both Nordic-Germanic-Protestant traits — they have voluntarily handicapped themselves by importing countless numbers of backward peoples. This way they can narrow the embarrassing (to them) gap between their standard of living and that of the rest of the world.

This guilt-proneness, combined with the objectively better societies built by Northwest Europeans in general, and Scandinavians in particular, leads them to fanatically police themselves for any signs of “racism,” i.e. acknowledging the obvious superiority of their countries and themselves, and the desire to keep things that way.

So even if the flood of Africans and Muslims to Scandinavia/Northwest Europe is stopped, it will have served its purpose: to lower living standards so that Scandinavians/Northwest Europeans could no longer be seen as being better than everyone else. Equalism (and its twin, “anti-racism”) brought to its inevitable conclusion.

HERE IS THE RECONSTRUCTED FACE OF JEWS-US: A DARK BROWN OR BLACK MAN

I am sorry, if the Popular Mechanics link was not working right. Here is another link to see the face of Jewsus:

From CNN.com : “From science and computers, a new face of Jesus”: By Jeordan Legon
CNN, Thursday, December 26, 2002 Posted: 9:45 AM EST (1445 GMT)

“(CNN) — The Jesus pictured on the cover of this month’s Popular Mechanics has a broad peasant’s face, DARK OLIVE SKIN, short curly hair and a prominent nose. He would have stood 5-foot-1-inch tall and weighed 110 pounds, if the magazine is to be believed.”

See:

http://edition.cnn.com/2002/TECH/science/12/25/face.jesus/

Simply propaganda, you mean, by the cultural marxists in the media who want to destroy western civilization.

Norway existed for many hundreds of years before 1904, as the Battle of Stamford Bridge in 1066 demonstrates. For much of that time it was ruled by Denmark, but to claim Norway didn’t exist is like saying that India didn’t exist during the British Raj.

As a Sikh, I take that personally as many of them were my brothers

Sons of the Devi Danu & Rishi Kashyap

We will not stop until all abrahamic civilization is destroyed.

As far as the racist thing, why would you adopt or co-opt a communist abrahamic term. That’s just the new christianity,

Fact is you say this:

This is our land, we are danavas those outsiders follow a foreign ideology which seeks to take what is holy to us & make it unholy (normative inversion is all Jewish culture is).

They seek to rape our sisters & daughters & defence of the motherland is our only duty.

Abrahamic semitic culture of Arabs & Jews is not welcome in a land of Dharam.

Don’t poison your mind with abrahamic memes it only hurts it.

For normative inversion stuff see the page twitter.com/hindulsm with an L.

He goes into how Jews killed dogs in Persia, cow in Japan & India, bull & ram in Egypt.

Connect the dots, they’re against nature clearly shown by circumcision.

As a Sikh, I take that personally as many of them were my brothers

Sons of the Devi Danu & Rishi Kashyap

We will not stop until all abrahamic civilization is destroyed.

“The Norwegians remain alert to the threat from Russia and made a glossy TV series about an fictional conquest by their neighbour. ”

That’s a bizarre thing I don’t get about the mainstream in present-day Western Europe…one is supposed to be totally ok with nation-destroying mass immigration, but at the same time people get all hysterical about the supposed threat from Russia (which is presented as if it’s some real life Mordor). Simply idiotic.

Interesting, thanks.

Catholic Germans nowadays are just as messed up and pro-immigration as Protestants so I don’t find that convincing.

A quick peak at Wikipedia shows that the Kingdom of Norway reached it’s greatest size in 1265 AD. There was a place called Norway and a people who identified as Norwegian even before it became a modern, independent nation-state in 1905.

“Stronger individualism, but more effective consensus-forcing? This is a total logical contradiction.”

Not even close. Peoples with stronger kinship ties don’t need to worry about “absolute, universally applicable rules” and expelling rule-breakers, because the blood ties are what they use to identify who is fit to be part of their group.

Nice try, though. I guess the sheer force of your smug attitude alone makes you right.

Norway didn’t exist as a country until 1904.

Yes, it did, only it was under the thumb of Denmark from the Middle Ages, and under the thumb of Sweden from the early 19th century.

Stronger individualism, but more effective consensus-forcing? This is a total logical contradiction.

Wrong. Stronger individualism as in less importance of kin and clan; more effective consensus-forcing as in more conformity and belief in what your betters tell you.

Aside from a few frozen islands and a brief claim to part of Greenland, Norway never had a colonial empire.

Norway didn’t exist as a country until 1904. It would help if you familiarized yourself with the basics of Norwegian history.

To the north and west of the Hajnal line, Europeans have long had weaker kinship ties and correspondingly stronger individualism. This social environment has in turn favored a greater emphasis on absolute, universally applicable rules, combined with a stronger desire to expel rule breakers.

Wait a minute. Stronger individualism, but more effective consensus-forcing? This is a total logical contradiction.

A poorly thought through article, which omits the fact that Norway didn’t even exist as a country until 1904, and is based on an internal contradiction so glaring that you could drive a truck through it?

Thank God for the internet, where anyone’s scribblings can be published. Because this would earn you a D in any once-great university. Nowadays, you’d probably get a pass.

But thanks for leaving out the Eskimos. For an Unz article, that’s admirable.

Yes, it is, and it is also very well and profitably run, though they seem to be getting ready to draw from it to support the refugees which are stressing the welfare state. Unfortunately, the success of Sovereign Wealth Funds like Norway’s and Singapore’s Temasek has led to this model being adopted quite widely, especially in shitty countries which are resource rich and also corrupt. A wealth fund like this is the perfect vehicle for disguising the theft of public money or for parking said money outside of the country, instead of spending it inside, on better infrastructure, education or simply handing out a yearly cash prize to the people, like Alaska’s fund etc.

We must say WE ARE PROUD TO BE RACE-IST,

I agree totally, Prissy. As a matter of fact, I think you should start the ball rolling bright and early Monday morning, by sending a mass email stating such to your entire company.

Bro, YOU’RE MADD AS HELLL AND YOU’RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!

Breivik was nuts, but his account of growing up strikes me as pretty typical of growing up white (i.e. default “no identity”) in a racially hostile environment, where the so-called other does have an identity. So why not quote him?

There were centuries of bloody conflict between Saxons and Franks with religion being a major issue. Periodically the Saxons would revolt against Frankish rule, slaughtering the Christian clergy during these revolts. The Franks would then bloodily reassert Frankish and Christian rule.

Norway mass killer, Anders Behring Breivik, in his 1500-page Manifesto praised Jewish Pamela Geller of ‘Atlas Shrugs’ and Christian Zionist Robert Spencer of ‘Jihad Watch’ – for inspiring him hating Muslims.

Norway government is pro-Israel but country is home to some of Europe’s worst “Jew haters”.

Norway’s well-known sociologist, professor Johan Galtung, claims that six Jewish companies control 96% of the world’s mainstream media, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is real, and that Norwegian mass killer Anders Behring Breivik belongs to Freemasonry cult which is based on Judaism and 9/11 was inside/Mossad job.

http://rehmat1.com/2012/10/23/jewish-lobby-norwegian-hates-israel/

“Over the past half-century, however, Norwegians have been persuaded that the supreme rule is Thou shalt not be racist.”

This is why we must turn racism into a positive idear.

We must say WE ARE PROUD TO BE RACE-IST, meaning we believe in the existence of race, racial differences, and validity of racial consciousness.

Ism means belief. We believe in race, so being race-ist is great.

We all need to wear a T-shirt that says PROUD TO BE RACE-IST.

Does Wealth Really Kill Religion?

Breivik:If I ever got in to trouble I expected my friends to back me up 100% without submitting or running away, as I would for them.

I have read a bit of DS Wilson on groups, and recently some interesting things about oxytocin and its effect of making people courageous in defence of what they hold dear. The hormone is involved with the tend and defend response, which can be activated by kin in some kind in dificulty or under threat but apparently the kinship group is basically similar to other types of group.

A neighbourhood circle of friends becomes a tighter group when there is the prospect of needing help. But there are other groups, and when one’s group might be in jeopardy the tend and defend response kicks in for the group’s benefit. The potential of external peril of some sortis the key to understanding why the attitude to ones group over against outsiders is not unconditional in all circumstances. While commitment to the wider group and its members may be 100% when one might be in need for help from fellow members, when there is no stress on them people are far less inclined to make social connection with others.

Having a bunch of people who can call on you for support is a cost that is only worth paying if you might be in jeopardy, and secure people feel much less part of a group, and a wider group of such individualistic people is far less cohesive and sensitive to collective jeopardy.
Traditional allegiances have become nominal throughout the West as the lives of ordinary people have become easier. Religious institutions were strong when people could not get enough to eat, but faded while obesity became a problem and economic circumstances improved.

In trying to become relevant in a materially flourishing society religion has, I think, taken on a new role whereby it looks beyond traditional allegiances to a wider entity, while retaining the old rules about expecting members to give 100% backing. Norway is notable for being small and having benefited a lot from its oil, which made then a rich country with a generous social safety net. I believe Norway’s particularly rapidly improvement in materiel living conditions explains much of their failure to perceive clearly apparent immigration trends as something worth opposing .

The Norwegians remain alert to the threat from Russia and made a glossy TV series about an fictional conquest by their neighbour. Meanwhile the Russians are mounting a very real proxy invasion by allowing a collection of migrants to cross Russia to get to its border with Norway. I think the West is beyond the point of no return unless there is a the prospect of a serious danger of an unmistakable type, because societies are still organised on the principal that they must defend themselves. To the extent governments have understanding of their purpose they think it’s making the country stronger (diversity is our strength). The lack of a tangible threat is leading to dissolution.

A bunch of scandinaiveans are really stupid!!!

It’s not ”brainwash” or ”naivety”, is just pure stupidity!!

The northern north like Norway and the like, seem to me to be Christianized by terror. The very same sort of terror at the same time in the 700s the Muslims were using to Islamasize great stretches of the Mediterranean coast. Actually the terror here was Christian terror used by Charlemagne to tame the Saxons and also terrorize their northern cousins.
In 782 Charlemagne was pissed at the Saxons so he baptized 4,500 men and then cut off their heads at Verden. Sounds positively Islamic.

Rodney Stark, who has written a boatload of books on the idea that ‘Christianity is good’ (relatively speaking) has another recent book out titled ‘How the West Won.’(2014) Regarding pre-Christian Europe, especially northern Europe, nowadays few people discuss the beheading of the 4500 Saxons in 782 at Verden in the name of the Prince of Peace. In today’s demographics that is 180,000 hairy dudes. That is a lot of men, who, contrary to our time, were very valuable as a resource in those days. A few years ago I had never heard of Verden and usually understood the success of Christianity as due to its greater guilt generating activities creating more cooperation.

In this view (just a suggestion in the book) Christianity was imposed in the most brutal fashion on the people of the North, it was a religion they did not want, it was not the doctrine that attracted them, it was the simple idea of living another day that forced them to pay lip service to Jesus. It was a forcible conversion of fear for the people of the North, not a conversion of belief. On p. 97 Stark discusses the idea that the Vikings, a hundred years later, targeted British Monasteries and Monks, not necessarily because they were defenseless but “because they were angry about efforts to Christianize the North. Especially provocative would have been the atrocities committed by Charlemagne, who, for example, had about 4,500 unarmed Saxon captives forcibly baptized and then executed. The Vikings seem to have known that Charlemagne had issued an edict imposing the death sentence on all who tried to resist Christianization.”

Stark cites a 2009 book by Robert Ferguson for this idea about the Vikings attacking religious centers in England as a sort of revenge, ‘The Vikings, a History,’ p 54.

So you could look at the Christianization of the North as a forced conversion of terror.

Stark has written other books on the Christianization of the Roman Empire emphasizing Christianity’s emphasis on the the respect for women and the coming together to help the sick and poor, two things Paganism, which was more Darwinist, ignored. But here he acknowledges Christianity was not always the religion of peace.

At the same time as the Saxon beheadings, Charlemagne, again in the name of the price of peace sent every third Saxon family south to live and be Christianized. Ethnically cleansed and beheaded the Saxons converted. Perhaps they learned their lessons too well, nowadays maybe they love too much.

Mass beheadings and ethnic cleansing, two ideas you will not hear discussed much from the pulpit on Sunday mornings.

A manifestation of insanity. Same old one: ” The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God” (Psalm 14). Insane people think of themselves to be “Rational”. LOL, if it wasn’t sad (and pathetic).

Something seems to be fundamentally wrong with many Scandinavians, with Germans as well…

A direct result of the heresies of Lutheranism. There’s always payback for heresy sooner or later.

I’ve always thought the church burnings in Norway had something to do with the relative humourlessness of Scandinavians. People from other countries can be read about Satanism, and be in ‘Satanic’ bands, but retain an ironical distance. In the humourless north, you have to live the life.

In interviews, Varg Vikernes speaks about learning from Tolkein with absolute sincerity – as if Lord of the Rings were a religious text.

Scandinavians are not stupid, but there is an incredible naivety about them – wherever they are on the political spectrum.

Is it true that Norway has the largest Sovereign Wealth Fund in the world?