LOL! So subtle, so good!

Anon from TN
I know quite a few German scientists, collaborate with many of them, and none of them knows any Jews. However, you are welcome to believe whatever you wish. I would like to remind you that there are lies, damned lies, and statistics (ascribed to British PM Benjamin Disraeli or Mark Twain). FYI, I can give you many links to sites claiming that people contact aliens all the time, and even that some prominent people are in fact aliens. Does this constitute proof?

No reason to believe you are a qualified source.

“While the Jewish population in nearly all countries of the Diaspora declines, the Jewish population in Germany boasts an unprecedented boom.” https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/jews-in-germany-today/

“Core Jewish pop.” 99,000
“Enlarged Jewish pop.” 250,000

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country

117,000

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-population-of-the-world

Anon from TN
We have been reading a lot of BS, especially in MSM. I was in Berlin not so long ago, they have Judenstrasse, they have a synagogue, but hardly any Jews. There are maybe a few hundred in the whole country, none in the position of authority.

“….there are virtually no Jews in Germany.”

Haven’t we been reading about Jews emigrating from Israel to Germany?

Anon from TN
BTW, there are no Jews in China, Japan, or South Korea. In fact, Chinese in Malaysia and Indonesia occupy the same niche as Jews in Europe. In Indonesia there were anti-Chinese pogroms, very similar to anti-Jewish pogroms in Eastern Europe.

Anon from TN
Yes, I am a scientist, and therefore I hold that facts trump any theories. You are projecting today’s situation back 300 years, which is unscientific and contradicts known facts. For example, in the US until after WWII the rules of acceptance into Ivy League (best) colleges were pretty anti-semitic: a very small percentage of students were Jews (mind you, Oxford and Cambridge in the UK, as well as all Ivies in the US evolved from Christian religious schools). It changed now, so today Ivies discriminate against Asians instead. In Russia, under Romanovs Jews were not allowed to be state employees and were not even allowed to live in the capitals (Moscow and St Petersburg). Jews who converted to Orthodox Christianity were allowed, though. The revolution of 1917 brought a lot of Jews to power, but then Stalin reinstated traditional anti-semitism that survived all the way to Breznev’s rule. Then the counter-revolution of 1991 brought many Jews to power and riches again. In Europe, the situation differed by country and period (say, in Germany in 1933-45 Jews were not in power in any way). You can google the details yourself, if you wish.
Today Jews are over-represented in financial, media, and political elites in the US, Russia, Ukraine, and some (but not all) European countries. For example, there are virtually no Jews in Germany. If you think that German policies are much different from those of France or UK, think again. There are no Jews in Poland and the Baltics, yet their political elites push exactly the same suicidal pro-American policies as Jew-dominated Ukraine. So, connecting Jew dominance with any specific type of policy is unscientific. That’s one of the things I am saying.

The range from scum to decent people is the same among Jews, WASPs, Russians, Chinese, etc. There is nothing especially good or especially bad about any nation.

As far as I remember you are scientist ? Your statement could be right, but the question in proportions.
Try to compare proporsions of all named nations in society and in MSM, finance, goverment …
And you can do it in almost any europian country + US in any period during last at least 300 years.
This will sigthly change “the equal role theory”.

To be clear I do agree with statement that mantra

“Thus, the mantra “Jewish – bad, not Jewish – good”

is wrong. But there are some details.

Anon from TN
My point exactly. The range from scum to decent people is the same among Jews, WASPs, Russians, Chinese, etc. There is nothing especially good or especially bad about any nation. What’s more, in my experience it is the people who have no personal achievements to be proud of tend to present their nationality, religion, country of residence, or skin color as a source of pride and the basis for feeling superior. Decent successful people don’t need that.

“Thus, the mantra “Jewish – bad, not Jewish – good” has no basis in the Soviet reality.”
– How about, “Jews are like other people — some are good and some are bad?” Would not it be nice if your tribe stop quetching and instead accept the uncomfortable truth that the Jewish murderers and thieves are just as numerous and vicious as murderers and thieves of other ethnicity? The pretense on special Jewish victimhood and special superior Jewish morality is ridiculous in the context of the Jewish role in the Bolshevik revolution, the Nakba, and the ongoing implementation of Yinon plan for Eretz Israel.

Anon from TN
Maybe I am dense, but I fail to see you refuting what I wrote. Mass murderers Dzerzhinsky, Stalin (Dzugashvili), Ezhov, Beria, Abakumov, Ignatyev were not Jews. Thus, the mantra “Jewish – bad, not Jewish – good” has no basis in the Soviet reality.
I leave the story of Holodomor on your conscience. At the same time severe hunger with many deaths in the countryside was reported in Russia, Kazakhstan, and other parts of the USSR. There was nothing special about former Ukraine, where, BTW, the most severe hunger was in the least Ukrainian parts, such as Donbass. The Soviet “kolkhoz” system, which was designed to confiscate food from those who produced it, was to blame in every case. FYI, occupying German army in 1941-43 preserved kolkhoz system to use it for exactly the same purpose. They weren’t Jews, either.

“… were victims of that violence.”
— The same mistuned song on the exceptional victimhood.
You need to check the biographies of Lazar Kaganovitch (see Holodomor), Yagoda (see CheKa), Berman, Frenkel, and Kogan (see the horrors of GULAG, the network of concentration camps where millions have perished), Zemlyachka (see genocide of Russain officer corps and the blood-curling methods of murder, devised by Rozalia Zalkind, the Esther of the 20th century). “Rozalia Samuilovna Zalkind known under nicknames Devil (for personal participation in mass executions) and Zemlyachka was a Russian revolutionary, Soviet politician and statesman. She was the 1st woman recieved Order of the Red Banner in USSR.”

https://enigmachannel.wordpress.com/2015/06/10/the-worlds-most-evil-woman/

“Winston Churchill called the Bolshevik Revolution a Jewish movement in his article “Bolshevism versus Zionism” in the “Illustrated Sunday Herald” on February 8th, 1920. He described communism as a “sinister confederacy on International Jews, who have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.”
In his book “Les Derniers Jours des Romanofs” (The Last Days of the Romanovs) Robert Wilton, the renowned foreign correspondent for “The Times of London”, reported that out of the 384 Russian commissars there were 300 Jews, 264 of them came from the US since the downfall of the Imperial Government, and he listed the names of all the Jewish leaders of the revolution.
Reports by Captain Schuyler, an American army intelligence officer in Russia during the Russian Revolution, are kept in the US National Archives in Washington. In his March 1919 report he stated that “… the Bolshevik movement is and has been since its beginning guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest type.”
“The American Hebrew Magazine” in New York stated in its September 10th, 1920 edition that “The Bolshevik Revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish planning and Jewish dissatisfaction. Our plan is to have a New World Order. What worked so wonderfully in Russia is going to become reality for the whole world.”
Encyclopedia Judaica boosts that the Bolshevik Revolution was so Jewish that Jewish leaders were instructed to change their names in order to hide the Jewish domination. The founder of the Red Army Leon Trotsky (real name Lev Bronstein) and Soviet Minister of Foreign Affairs Maxim Litvinov are listed as Jews in “Who’s Who in World Jewry”. … According to Rabbi Marvin Adelman’s book “To Eliminate the Opiate,” Jacob Shiff, the Jewish American capitalist from banking firm Kuhn and Leob, had financed the Jewish communist revolutionaries with $24 millions, and received as an investment return 100 million Russian Rubles.”

http://mwcnews.net/focus/editorial/36409-genocidal-criminals.html

– Today, the US enjoys the tender cares of Adam Schiff (Democrat, CA), a progeny of Jacob Schiff, the financier of the Bolshevik revolution. .

In contrast, pure Jews Trotsky (Bronstein), Yagoda (Iyeguda), Kamenev (Rozenfeld), Zinoviev (Apfelbaum), as well as a bunch of Jewish medics in 1952-3, were victims of that violence. If you think that violence was Talmudic, think again.

This is an interesting group of “victims”.

Lenin (part Jewish), Bronstein, Rozenfeld and Apfelbaum were the top leaders of Bolshevism, and after taking absolute power, in their October 1917 coup, they launched the most murderous regime that Europe has ever seen.

Lazar Kaganovich (aided by Genrik Yagoda and mostly Jewish NKVD officers) was probably the Nº1 ethnic Jewish mass murderer in history, given that he organized the Ukrainian death famine in the winter of 1931/32. Inspection teams ensured that any food hoarding was punishable by death. It’s now called the Holodomor and it is recognized as an organized mass killing of 6-7 million Ukrainians.

The all Jewish designers and heads of the of the Soviet Gulag work/death camp system generated an equally enormous death toll: Lazar Kogan (Head of Gulag 1931-32), Matvei Berman (Head of Gulag 1932-37), Genrik Yagoda and Yakov Agranov (Head and deputy head of the NKVD 1934-36), Semyon Firin, Yakov Rapoport and Naftaly Frenkel.

However, it is true that 20 years after the 1917 coup, Stalin finally liquidated this crowd of killers to consolidate his power (he wasn’t any better).

Yagoda and Agranov were executed in 1938 at the start of Stalin’s Great Terror. Berman and Kogan were executed in 1939 with Kaganovitch and Frenkel surviving until 1991 and 1960 respectively to die of natural causes. Kaganovitch was known to be totally subservient to Stalin in every way which perhaps accounted for his survival.

Zinoviev and Kamenev were put through Show Trial confessions in return for their lives (but immediately executed anyway), and Stalin eventually succeeded in his long term aim of murdering Trotsky (assassinated in Mexico in 1940).

Now, that’s funny that you mentioned the USSR, as no other example would be as clearly against your assertions as that one. The “Talmudic violence” of Bolsheviks in Russia was prosecuted by Dzerzhinsky, Stalin (Dzugashvili), Ezhov, Beria, Abakumov, Ignatyev, etc., none of whom had a drop of Jewish blood. In contrast, pure Jews Trotsky (Bronstein), Yagoda (Iyeguda), Kamenev (Rozenfeld), Zinoviev (Apfelbaum), as well as a bunch of Jewish medics in 1952-3, were victims of that violence. If you think that violence was Talmudic, think again.

It has been said that Judaism is tribal law religionized. Indeed, after more than 4,000 years Jewish religion and culture are melded. Non-religious Jews are quite capable of prosecuting Talmudic violence, as Winston Churchill observed in the USSR, and as we ourselves observe in Gaza and the global genocide against Whites.

The “Jews are just like everybody else.” response is worn out like the Hasbara talking point it’s taken from.

“…the US public is being prepared to “react correctly” to some major Zionist created crisis dragging the US into conflict with Russia.
– Agree. The intolerable fact that Israel will be wiped out at instance, if the ziocon plan to attack Russia is initiated, keeps the bloody psychopaths in check, so far.
The most startling thing about the ziocons’ project (conducted on the US dime & limb) is the readiness of the US brass and functionaries in the highest echelons of power to sold out the US to the psychopathic moneychangers of “chosen” variety. The casual treasonous attitude towards the US needs and reputation has become a norm. Whether the CIA or the FBI or the State Dept., the needs of the US citizenry have taken a tertiary importance, if any. The most telling sign of the US decline is the apparent deterioration of moral fiber.

planning a crisis to enable the wholesale appropriation of Russian assets in the West

That is the only one that I find credible. The issue there is that West has lots of assets in Russia too (especially Western Europeans), and also that most Russian assets in the West are owned by oligarchs – maybe that’s why they were just listed by State Dept as sanction targets.

The question is, if the mutual expropriation happens, what it stay at that?

the biggest problems with Western media:

most of their talk on foreign policy is fake news.
inside their own countries like US, its Republican Democrat Republican Democrat and repeat.

Proffesor Stephen Cohen seems okay with Russians. There are probably others, but the point is that the loud and influential ones are Anti-Russian. They are the new Schiffs of America.

AntiRussian Jews:
In Canada you get people like Freeland (upa and jewish ancestry) who found one thing in common,
to hate on the Russians. She was also at the World Jew Congress.
Others, people like Anne Applebaum who got Sikorski into power.
All the mainstream news members, pumping the same nonsense.

There might be some irrational motivations in it, but my guess is that the objective is not a war, but an attempt to crush the Russian economy.

You’re an optimist. Zionist targets are the physical destruction of Syria and Iran, and they have a good record of getting what they want out of the US (for example the destruction of Iraq and Libya). There’s a strong antipathy towards Putin for terminating their Khodorkovsky project , and against Trump for finishing with the Clintons, but the whole “Russian hacking” thing seems to be a separate piece of planned and coordinated deception.

For example, the US media were fully primed and ready for 9/11 and almost fell over each other to instantly explain the full Al Qaeda “Arab Terrorist” story, without the slightest investigation or doubt regarding events. 9/11 was a large and complex operation, and the planners weren’t going to leave the media side to chance. The event had to be “interpreted” quickly and correctly, with the propaganda set to full volume.

And previously, a lot of effort went into subverting government agencies to produce the fake WMD story, propagandize it, and set up the US public to react correctly to 9/11.

The same process is in play now, with the full volume demonization of Russia, so the assumption is that the US public is being prepared to “react correctly” to some major Zionist created crisis dragging the US into conflict with Russia.

One unlikely possibility, would be a USS Liberty type attack with supposedly Russian aircraft attacking some US assets , with the aim being to panic the US military into a Syrian ground war against Russia/Assad/Iran – although it’s very doubtful that the target would be Russia itself, and the whole thing doesn’t make much sense.

Alternatively their friends may just be planning a crisis to enable the wholesale appropriation of Russian assets in the West – of which there are plenty. The test run in Cyprus went well.

One way or the other, the US public is surely being set up for a Russia Crisis.

US population is once again being prepared (set up) – this time for something involving Russia. I don’t know what it is

There might be some irrational motivations in it, but my guess is that the objective is not a war, but an attempt to crush the Russian economy. Or at least to slow down its growth. It isn’t working, so we see the constant escalation by the West.

If we get a war (or any kinetic conflict), it will be because the primary economic goal is failing and the escalation gets out of hand. That’s why Kremlin’s constant refrain is ‘keep calm, don’t over-react’. It might not work in the long run, there are always red lines.

Not much nuance in that statement! Sounds a bit like the kind of thinking that turns one into a mass murderer.

I gave arguments. They show that your state is world criminal. Try to argue.
What make some more fun here – US trying to blame anybody (Russia on 1st place) for crimes.
What should I think of people voting for McCain, Clintons< Bushes … who's being representing by imbeciles like N.Haley ?
Well, and me and many others think that.

And to be clear, I have always thought dropping an atomic bomb on a civilian population in Japan was an abomination–as was the fire bombing of Dresden.

And to be clear any normal human should consider it to be horrible crime. But this not the case in US, you still even not apologize.
Do we have to nuke you for that? Are you any better those Japanese who you burned out and many others?

I can’t say any good about it, sorry lavoisier

In military cases you know the price – doesn’t matter what country you are writing from, probably you’ll be destroyed as well as that monkey.

That’s the catch, Yankees know Russia well, so monkey is threatening with its grenade happily. But monkey fear death more than anyone. Because Yankees life is very expensive, its deep states not ready to die with its great wealth. China, NKorea, Iran see through, they always ask: “hey Monkey, pull the safety pin pls.” Monkey blink blink blink. Trumps & his clowns, Tillerson, Mattis,… they aren’t gonna die for America.

(Soviet)Russia has declared far too many redlines with its dear US partner, but never carry out single one, so Yankees don’t give a damn. A man who does as he said, his friends or foes heed his word carefully.

China declared the day Yankees warship arrive Taiwan is the day of liberation. Story end, Yankees knew well what it means in last Korea war, it not going to die for Taiwan.

Anyhow, the day Putin kept Snowden, he already knew there is a price to pay. Xi knew its money losing deal, so he let go.

I do despise your bloody country and yes, it should be destroyed.

Not much nuance in that statement! Sounds a bit like the kind of thinking that turns one into a mass murderer.

And to be clear, I have always thought dropping an atomic bomb on a civilian population in Japan was an abomination–as was the fire bombing of Dresden.

Blood libel is a bad thing to get involved in Yurivku.

Putin lacked that manly killing instinct to stop US harassment. Yankees has tested Russia in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Balkan, Georgia, Ukraine, Syria. Russia always blink his tearing eyes.

Partly I would agree with that. Here is just one little problem when dealing with a monkey who has a hand grenade.
But yes, in many cases he sould have been tougher like it was in Crimea. Especially when it not leads to possible military clash like sports, sanctions, diplomatic property cases …

In military cases you know the price – doesn’t matter what country you are writing from, probably you’ll be destroyed as well as that monkey.

That is not fair, any more than every Japanese civilian is responsible for the rape of Nanking.

That’s a reason for me to consider US and its people to be criminals. No word of sorry – just nuked couple of hundreds of thousands and no problem. They were guilty in Nankin (your words).

But you guilty in Vietnam (orange, Songmi), Korea, Serbia ……… even carpet bombing of Dresden – you are certainly are barbarians. Do you deserve to be nuked for that? Let us ruin NY & LA, there are a lot of people who deserve to be punished?

I do despise your bloody country and yes, it should be destroyed.

If you could you no doubt destroyed Moscow and St.Petersburg, but you can fight only with a weak opponent. And only because of that the world still exists. Yet.

That is a good analogy. Israel is the perfect example of the Southern saying: “He would ride a free horse to death”. It’s as though the Israelis don’t even realize that they are going to be destroyed by the rest of the world eventually. No people in history has ever gotten away with the kind of shit that Israel has been doing.

Eventually, the world will be united in their disgust at them and will isolate and then destroy this bunch of lunatics.

I honestly cannot understand the parasite which kills its host,

It’s not really “killing the host”. It’s more having absolute power with maximum exploitation. There’s plenty more to exploit in the US, and this particular horse is starting to kick over the traces (electing Donald Trump), so it needs a tighter harness and more whip.

For example, the Russians under Bolshevism had every aspect of their lives controlled. Their economic output was 100% appropriated by the state, and in return they got the minimum of bad food and shelter need to survive (i.e. they were enslaved) + they got the death penalty for any criticism of their Jewish masters (which was the first law that Uliánov (Lenin), Bronstein (Trotsky), Apfelbaum (Zinoviev) and Rosenfeld (Kamenev) passed on gaining absolute power).

Unfortunately for them (20 years later), they were all murdered/executed by Stalin along with most of the other Bolshevik Jewish leaders (apart from Lenin who died soon after they came to power in 1917) and Stalin appropriated their system developing his own repressive cult of personality.

Plenty of Americans are supporting the Neo-Bolshevik PC agenda, in the same way that the fashionable pre WWI ethnic Russian intelligencia supported Bolshevik activism (inevitable “social progress”, “modern thinking”. “progressiveness” etc) although they were in fact surprised to discover that they, (the “useful idiots”), were the first to be liquidated when the Bolsheviks attained absolute power.

Yes, I agree that it ain’t quite dead yet. It is in mortal danger though, at the very least, IMO.

With Iran I agree, it seems an irrational obsession. But I have not seen much anti-Russia (direct) moves from Israel. If anything, they seem quite chummy. Sure, they were on opposite sides in Syria and Ukraine, but officially there isn’t anything like US or EU hostility against Russia from Israel. They trade, visit, invest, etc…

Except that the US media are the faithful voice of militant Zionism. They are hard core Likudniks (i.e. don’t even represent most Jews or Israelis) and there’s nothing accidental about the intense media focus on “Russian Hacking”.

It’s a highly coordinated propaganda move that has nothing to do with the facts, the same as the WMD story that blanketed the US media at the time, or the instant and perfectly formed 9/11 “Arab Terrorist” story that the media were trumpeting almost from the moment the planes hit the towers – no investigation necessary.

Following this line of thinking, the US population is once again being prepared (set up) – this time for something involving Russia. I don’t know what it is, but it’s certainly designed to augment US Zionist power, and it’s a highly dangerous piece of lunacy that isn’t going to benefit the US or Russian public.

That is not fair, any more than every Japanese civilian is responsible for the rape of Nanking.

I do not support the wars by the US being waged on the behalf of Israel in the Middle East.

I do not support the leaders of my government who instigated those wars.

I think Bush and Cheney should be tried for war crimes, and I think the entire neo-conservative cabal should go to jail for their lies and treachery.

Not all Americans are on board with the waging of endless wars. And more and more of us are waking up to the reality that our country is fighting wars on behalf of Israel that are not in our interest.

Ohhhh good grief,

insects are diets in some of the least populated areas on the planet . . .deserts, jungles, remote Islands, various mountain regions. Apparently even whites are known to have a bite or two.

Casting the eating of insects as a last resort and a sign of desperation lending credence to the domms day scenarios is is funny, but hardly a sound rational

https://blog.travefy.com/2014/10/tastes-like-chicken-5-insect-delicacies-will-gross/

https://www.mapsofworld.com/travel/blog/travel-tips/5-restaurants-around-the-world-that-serve-insects-as-delicacies

http://time.com/5036216/finland-bread-insects-crickets-hunger/

Hunger around the world is largely a problem of food distribution and management, not a food shortage. Even in the US the fear mongering about food shortage is common. There are people bent on using fear to advance their agenda.

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/09/23/food-shortage-security.aspx

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/shortages-is-the-world-really-running-out-of-food-water-and-oil

Still, there appears to be genuine human suffering in Myanmar (Burma), and Rohingya appear to be fleeing in thousands. Bangladesh confirmed that, sort of. What part of that is true, and what’s the real story there?

Sure there is much sufferings among both Buddhists and Muslims villagers.

Myanmar people all don’t recognized Rohingya after their government census, after recognizing hundreds of minority ethnics, because no such Rohingya ethnic exist. Its a newly created name to sound like they are ethnic from Rakkhaine, which US use for propaganda.

[History] what i read & heard from locals too
Originally they came from Bangladesh, known as Chittagong tribe which Bangladesh themselves fear of, as illegal migrants. Myanmar people called them Bengali. They don’t speak Burmese, only their Bengali.

During British imperialism time, many were brought in by British equipped with guns to slaughter Rakkhaine people to colonize Myanmar. They then settled there. So local Rakkhaine ethnic people dislike them. After independent, Bengali continue to flood in, mass multiplying. Myanmar gov tried to push all back to Bangladesh in 1960′s, but UN persuaded them not to. This create much tension between local Rakkhaine minority ethnic and illegal Bengalis.

Muslim Rohingya start killing Rakkhaine Buddhists villagers. Buddhists villagers fight back, so forming vicious cycle. But can’t classified both as militants as all have no guns or trained. Just knifes clashing and hatred affairs.

Then last year self declared Bengali Terrorists borned in and trained by Saudi arabia /Pakistan came attacked police posts in hundreds, killing many police and villagers, took weapons hide in forest. So Myanmar army sent in to clear them out. During this counter insurgency, hundreds of thousands Rohingya fled to Bangladesh. Terrorists killed all, Buddhists and Hindus whatever. May be own Muslims too to create refugees like Syria case? Army may take this chance to push back illegal Bengalis.

Then out of nowhere Western msm goes turbo 24/7 hyping ethnic cleansing. All US & lackeys go hysteria demand UN emergency action, All USAid NGO pour in, UN assigned SKorean Yankees Lee to find faults..huh facts..need protect Muslim ethnic, got terrorists, US special force is ready to help..set up base…another Syria textbook scripts.

Why? Rakkhaine had discovered much Oil and Gas. Korean and China invested. China layed pipes to start pumping back. This also serve as bypassing Malacca Straits strangled hold that USN used to threaten China. It also act as OBOR nodes for connecting access to Indian Ocean. Once pipe done, Yankees gone frenzy…read those Globalresearch reports, very detailed and quite similar to ground info.

But likely US strategy backfired because Aungsan Sukee gov is US supported. If US push too far, their supported gov may fall. If Sukee support US Rohingya, she will lost most Myanmar voters including her party base. China take the chance, offer help to Myanmar & Bangladesh to resolve crisis, extend OBOR, develop Rakkhaine to bring economy hence all can co-live happily. Now US don’t allow Rohingya to return. Its a time bomb awaiting.

India Assam has ten of millions same Bengalis, they are pushing them back now. India Hindu is real ruthless, this will dwarf Rohingya crisis.

Anon from TN
Well, regarding your conversation with RobinG.
I am very skeptical about Western MSM: they lie 80% of the time and twist the truth beyond recognition the remaining 20%. The stories appear in all of them (remember alleged Serbian genocide of Kosovars, alleged Sudanese crimes in Darfur, allegedly bombed hospitals in Aleppo, the crash of MH-17 over Donbass, etc), and then disappear simultaneously, when the lies cannot be sustained any more and the truth cannot be told, as it’s against the interests of their owners. Still, there appears to be genuine human suffering in Myanmar (Burma), and Rohingya appear to be fleeing in thousands. Bangladesh confirmed that, sort of. What part of that is true, and what’s the real story there?

“….msm propaganda …”

You’ve gotta be kidding. They’ve been hiding this as much as they could. Kinda like Yemen.

Because you lack understanding of Buddhism. And you believe in msm propaganda spread by US & all its allies to sabotage the Myanmar and China OBOR.

Here is one comment you may like to read:

These Western leaders led by US are the team of evils behind the whole Myanmar Rohingya crisis. Haven’t you notice and wonder why a sudden intense outpouring of entire Western msm 24/7 reporting …with the USNato countries and their allied Muslim countries(Saudi and Turkey) gone hysteria overdrive in calling for UN immediate intervention, claiming the worst Genocide, Ethnic Cleansing of century? Ironically these are the same countries committing naked genocide directly or indirectly in Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Libya…without their usual “humanity”.

Read these:
1. Why US &Saudi is backing Rohingya suddenly

https://www.globalresearch.ca/why-u-s-and-saudi-arabia-back-rohingya-in-myanmar/5613015

2. Who is responsible for the direct killing

https://www.globalresearch.ca/who-is-responsible-for-ethnic-cleansing-in-myanmar/5611486

3. Rohingya pawns of US & Saudi.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-rohingya-of-myanmar-pawns-in-an-anglo-chinese-proxy-war-fought-by-saudi-jihadists/5607605

I have traveled and lived in Myanmar for more than a decade, its a very peaceful and safe country so resource rich yet make so poor by decades of West sanction.

The problem is people are brainwashed and fed with fake msm news the whole life, believing without ever travel to see themselves

.

Maybe Buddhism, Jaininsm, or Confucianism are exceptions, I don’t know enough about them.

From Buddhist Anon
These are what I have learned about Buddhism and Confucianism, Taoism too, are all not religion, as they don’t profess or believe in any creator god. So they don’t need eliminate non believers, and only share with those desire to know and live in harmony with the mother Nature Law.

Buddhism According to 2500BC ancient sacred texts of Theravada:

Buddhism is no exception. Look at Myanmar (Burma). Genocidal militant Buddhists.

Yankees only bully country without retaliation means, even Iran or North Korea prove too much for it. The moment Polar bear roar, Yankees will run away. China has a very good word for Yankees: Paper Tiger.

Putin lacked that manly killing instinct to stop US harassment. Yankees has tested Russia in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Balkan, Georgia, Ukraine, Syria. Russia always blink his tearing eyes.

US Pacific fleet commander little Jap Harry shrieking: “war start tonight” in SCS. Xi send in his little navy. Harry disappeared. Obama panicked into recovery mode.
Trumps said: “what’s wrong to call Taiwan pres”. Xi refused to take his call. DT asked his granddaughter: “Go help Granpa apologize, sing Mandarin song in Chinese Embassy.”

NK Kim beats Trumps hands down.

Trump: We will destroy whole NK. Fried it.

NK : Its war declaration, we will shoot down US warplanes in international airspace as defense.

WH panicked : Its absurb, we never declare war. All should abide UN law, no one should ever attack another sovereign nation in international space or water….US blink.

Kim laughing: Ok, ok, Yankees my nuclear weapon testing finish, let’s have some fun in SKorea winter Olympics now. Russia is banned, we are welcome.

Anon from TN
Most of the Jews and half-Jews I know are non-religious, whereas you are talking about religion. In fact, any religion, taken literally, is a written justification of atrocities against non-believers (or believers in a different fairy tale). This certainly applies 100% to Judaism, Christianity (all sects), Islam (all sects), Hinduism. Maybe Buddhism, Jaininsm, or Confucianism are exceptions, I don’t know enough about them.

That’s funny to read, thank you, but still we have only mentioned above friends. All these people of US and it’s asskissers counties are our friends only on theirs kitchens, no real help exist. I’m not complaining, we got used to it.

Don’t think so, we are always were betrayed even by those we saved… Emperor Alexander III said: Russia has only two ally: its army and navy
Now we can add and aerospace forces
We can see world “support” for example in sports matters, sanctions etc. Well, we just getting angrier and do those three allies more powerful.

From all i know, most are supporting Russia including US & Nato people. Many got piss off by US terrorism Syria war, Wada/Olympics nonsense. Didn’t you see that steriod pump monstrous tennis player vs lovely Russian lady?

Russia is excellent to counter Yankees monopolized propaganda war. RT is exposing Yankees smelly ass. So US frighten into screwing RT, run hysteria Russiophobia. Only Russky alone can poke Yankee eyes, ha.. ha..we just love it. See how Lavrov mock Nikki.

Cheer up, you have to pay little price to stand up against bully, until others dare to join in to crush that idiot together. China already grow enough joining the fight.
Military + Economy=Unconquerable.

Sanction is godsend to help Putin restructure Russia economic finally, also good excuse to nationalize more oligarchy assets. Anyway, self sufficient Russia don’t care much on external trade, exchange rate, gdp figures..Western invented BS. Judge by your improved life quality.

And Russia has proven its 1st class integrated military power with superior command & logistic control in Syria war we thought had gone with Soviet. Many are drooling on Ruskies weapon now.

The more hysteria Yankees & lackeys bark, it means more fear. All are just harassment. No one will attack Russia, your button is biggest. Now get some good sleep and send us more good news about next poking Yankees ass.

Good post. Agree. Especially on how this US people calmly watches itself going to hell step by step.

Add some more details, seems like things will go that way:
- the more US troops near our borders and in Syria – more incidents on mutial presence in the same place
- the more stupid accusations in millions of sins to Russia
- more different sanctions targeted to personalities to intervene to our elections
- lethal weapons in Ukrain and probably some alike actions from Russia.
– attempts to get things harder in Ukrain (reintegration law) and Syria (border provocations and arming all the rubbish left from DAESH)
- increase of military budget and arms race

Where for God sake all this can lead us? Can you guess?
Yes, only destroying this center of world evil can help, but this does not seem to be very likely

here is piece of shit by National Interest:

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/doomsday-why-war-russia-would-go-nuclear-kill-billions-24214

good illustration of american sanity and quality of US propaganda

Granpa, still all Potus are born raised in US soil. Nothing to do with new migrants, its the failed system, and US people either psychopathic or absolutely ignorant to vote in every war monger leaders in a row. Kissinger is just only one.

Not a single protest ever raise by people when atrocious warssss are waging till this moment. But come to trivial things, LBGT or some abortion issues, people take to street in number, congressmen vehemently fighting for actions. Which means you and your elected reps are capable of fighting for own interest, yet don’t give a damn to others lives.

To elect murderers, and connive to their actions are tantamount to accomplices. Ever feel for Syrians, Iraqis, Libyans, Serbians, Ukrainian war suffering, North Koreans & Iranians living in existential destruction fear, Yemenis, Cuban, Venezuelan,…and many countries hardship under subversion and sanctions? Russophobia is just kid play. Not one protest. Its new migrants fault. US are exceptional, make ass great. EU countries are just similar.

Now you know why the whole world see US as the biggest threat? Its Americans mentality! To wish a economic disaster destroying monstrous US is most compassionate way to spare everyone from a nuclear apocalypse.

Be consolated, everyone supported Russian against Russophobia,

Don’t think so, we are always were betrayed even by those we saved, like Bulgarians, yugoslavian, polish and others. Emperor Alexander III said: Russia has only two ally: its army and navy
Now we can add and aerospace forces
We can see world “support” for example in sports matters, sanctions etc. Well, we just getting angrier and do those three allies more powerful.

Anything against sinophobia is a taboo getting tag as commie paid troll even by Russian like you.

Sorry, did not get it, Sinophobia is a taboo or taboo is be against it?

That’s describing your bloody society quite well

But I think you go too far about peaceful cities in Tojo’s Japan in World War II.

It doesn’t bother you that you have killed tens an hundreds of thousands of peaceful people. Really peaceful, probaly there were few hundreds or even thouthands of militaries among them. But you’ve killed peaceful people and still persit it was right.
Yes Japanese were criminals that time, but it does not mean that you can kill childs and women, but you did and so you are criminal even worse than your enemy.

You did it in Japan and than in many other places like Serbia, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Syria and many others and still people like you feel no responcibility for that.
That’s why your country is world scale criminal.

Moreover you trying to blame everyboby but youself in military crimes while real criminal old-offender is USA and its people.

You can say that Haley is Indian not American, McCain probably Irish and so on – but no, – everyone of you should be responcible for crimes of your country.

” bomb peasful countries like Serbia, and you can be sure we’ll never forget and never forgive it.” — yurivko

It’s good for you to let all that spite out, I think. But I think you go too far about peaceful cities in Tojo’s Japan in World War II. Consider, e.g., the Rape of Nanking.

“Granpa, all your elected Pres, congressmen, Pentagon war mongers, Military killers, MIC, Wall Street, CIA, NSA, presstitutes’ bosses…are all what you called born-and-raised Americans. New migrants don’t get these security clearance.” — anon

No human being in all of history has done more damage to USA and the American people …. than Henry Kissinger. He was, in effect, the president for foreign and military policy during the Ford administration and did plenty of damage both before and after. He did enormous harm around the world, as well as tremendous damage to the USA.

Kissinger was as far from born-and-raised-in-USA as it is possible to be and yet be a US citizen. He was born and raised in Germany and came to the USA in 1938, having been born in Germany in 1923. We will probably never know how high his security clearance went. It was virtually ‘the sky’s the limit’. So there’s no law against foreign-born being given security clearances, but it looks like there sure should be!

Ah, yes, Jews are just like anybody else. …except for the fact that they have a highly codified written creed that commands unrestricted genocidal aggression against any People attempting to exercise self-determination in the face of global Judeo-supremacist hegemony.

Yeah, Good Soldier Schweik … I read that many years ago, when I was in the military, it seemed funny to me at the time, because it was true. Great book.

I’m not in fighting mood, I just tried to explain you, US citizens, where your stupid leaders lead us all. We, Russians, do not want it, but we will fight if it’ll be inevitable. We always did.

America is just one place, there are many others not worse than yours. And the are many peoples not worse than yours and it’ll be good for America to understand this simple thing. Than God will certainly help all us.

Regards,
Yuri

Yuri,

The reason I responded is that you specifically asked for a response from an American. And the reason I addressed the Mama Bear aspect of Russia is that, you know, Mama Bear is legendary especially in western USA — if you rile her up or bother her cubs … well, that’s not something you want to do.

As annoying as it is when MSM lies to us, pretending that we actually believe those lies, it’s even more annoying when they pretend to speak for us Americans about something like Russia or Ukraine.

Americans don’t believe any of it — maybe we once did believe the okeydoke, but not anymore. That’s probably the biggest reason that Trump was elected. He campaigned against the mainstream global-corporations-owned media.

Anon from TN
Ron Unz is another. There are many decent people with Jewish blood, and there is a lot of scum who is not ethnically Jewish. Any nationalism is inherently stupid, fooling people into the belief that everything is very simple.

Israel relies upon the Diaspora to coerce/blackmail Western governments to do their miso-Slavic dirty work. I don’t know of any public Jew in America who isn’t howling for Russian blood. (Well, okay, Oliver Stone is one exception.)

Flogged the horse to death for maximal, then rob another horse under gun point. There are more than one parasites competing for host blood.

EU is another horse preparing with Moslems mass Migration now. Next is Russia or China, then India, Asia, Africa,…back to US when it has resurrected and grow fat again. Merry go round.

If the American Empire loses status the economy of the USA will revert to being a labor intensive existence of working the ground just to have enough food to eat and water to drink. So entitled and lazy Americans are and horrified to be relegated back to a 1920/30′s quality of life (loss of Bread & Circuses), that if the Military Idust Complex has to threaten the entire planet with nuclear annihilation if they don’t tithe 10% of their GDP (Roman Empire) so fat ass Yankees can continue to be fat asses–then just burn the place to the ground.

If the BRIC countries attempt to dethrone the petro dollar lazy entitled Americans will BEG Washington to do whatever it takes to bring back $3.00 t-shirts at Wal-Mart.

Isn’t farmers life more dignified than homeless without proper sanitary access, or been continuously worried about next bill and job, violent criminals or police brutality. But the well to do don’t give a damn if their boys are bombing who, life goes on fattening their ass. That’s why there isn’t slightest protest for 30Mi killing endless war still adding, except Saigon war too bloody for these fat ass enlisted offspring. So Blackwater mercenaries flourish now.

Yah, $3 good quality Tshirt in Walmart, thanks to China and Bangladesh. It cost $20 for a thin lousy Tee make in US no one will wear, scared the shit out of me, if DT goes trade war or nuke China, you have to start spinning own cloth. Yet Yankees want the cake and eat it too, cheap Tees but blame China. Just print $ to buy insanely, not productive(no factories to do anyway),only make bombs to sell, then whine over trade deficit.

I’m depressed when see and hear the bullshit which goin on.
And nothing we can do except this bloody button.

Be consolated, everyone supported Russian against Russophobia, you can openly slam anyone without stigma. Russia is very strong with bigger button, not losing any sleep.

Northkoreophobia, sinophobia, syriophobia, iranophobia, they have many enthusiast supporters here. North korea and Iran are under existential threat of nuke. Syrians already paid heavy tolls. Anything against sinophobia is a taboo getting tag as commie paid troll even by Russian like you.

“Wipe off” not necessary. More likely like this. [2021.]

Struggle for equal rights for Palestinians is ‘right choice,’ and will lead to ‘significant exodus of Jews’ — Henry Siegman

http://mondoweiss.net/2018/01/struggle-palestinians-significant/

I have this image from Western movies of a cowboy trying the cross a desert and he survives but his horse dies in the process. The cowboy is Israel and the horse is the US. The US horse has been flogged too much (for money and blood) and it is close to expiring in financial fireworks. But if it does what will the cowboy/parasite do, where to find another host and quickly? Will the Arabs manage to unite and wipe off Israel from the map when the host/horse dies?

I honestly cannot understand the parasite which kills its host, honestly! No use-in-moderation policy at all and they claim that they have the highest IQ.

Yes, stoicism and fine humor. I would force every Western revisionist of history (WW1 and WW2), and many there are, to read The Good Soldier Svejk.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritime_Delimitation_in_the_Black_Sea_case

…..for you see America died in 1963 in a place called Dallas,Tex……..

Yes it did.

And oddly enough here is the Jewish woman who became Johnson’s foreign policy muse after Kennedy’s assassination.

The not-so-secret life of Mathilde Krim

http://mondoweiss.net/2018/01/secret-life-mathilde/

There is a great scene at the beginning of The Good Soldier Svejk. At a pub in Prague a customer asks what happened to the portrait of the Habsburg Emperor that used to hang over the bar. The barman says that he had to move it because ‘flies where sh..ing on it’. The customer finishes his beer, does some more small talk, and then as he gets up tells the barman ‘ok, let’s go‘. And of they go to the police station with no drama or even discussion about the portrait. That is stoicism in action, only in Prague…

Israel alone doesn’t have the power to take on Iran and Russia

With Iran I agree, it seems an irrational obsession. But I have not seen much anti-Russia (direct) moves from Israel. If anything, they seem quite chummy. Sure, they were on opposite sides in Syria and Ukraine, but officially there isn’t anything like US or EU hostility against Russia from Israel. They trade, visit, invest, etc…

It is also hard to believe that Washington, London, Berlin or Brussels are not independent players. They are maybe used somewhat, but all of them have age-old agendas in both Middle East and Eastern Europe. Or France – they have been at the forefront of both the attack on Syria, and have enthusiastically poured oil on the Ukraine conflict. I would hold French accountable, the ‘they were just puppets of Zionists‘ is too easy and it makes countries not responsible for what they do.

My view is that if Berlin is messing with Ukraine, sending soldiers to the Russian border, inventing and forcing sanctions, it is their decision and ultimately German responsibility. Even blaming just Merkel is silly – it is the elite consensus among Germans, and the elites are presumably representing what Germans want, especially after a few relatively democratic electoral cycles. I know it hard to look into the mirror and see that it is actually the common people in those countries who are responsible, but it is closer to the truth than looking for reasons elsewhere.

And the Dutch Intel service said that Russia shot down Malaysia 17. (LOL)

And Russia doesn’t have “interns” and “assistants” stovepiping and manipulating legislative process in every the office of ALL American legislators, each of whom is being blackmailed by said Israeli dual citizens.

Bravo.

Those “trotted-out arguments” are as valid and unanswered as ever. Therefore, contrary to your “logic”, no one has in fact “run out of arguments”.

On the other hand, every time I read any one of your comments here, I come away with the unmovable impression over and over again that you are one of the stupidest, least-knowledgeable, most pig-ignorant commenters ever to scribble kindergarten-level garbage here at TUR.

Do us all a favour and just go away and play with the trains.

“Best hope is their people wake up to their basic decent sense they long lost, overthrow their entire government, elect accountable technocrats to lead and start living prudently that a sane nation should.”

A spiritual revival? Of course that will never happen because “the people” of the U.S. are just too corrupt. Years of brainwashing and calculated moral degeneracy have taken their toll. He’s right: something like a catastrophic economic collapse in the U.S. might be the best thing for the world.

Every countries leaders including allies must toe US line. Those refuse are the axis of evil, dictator, murderers, commie, WMD, little Rocket man, whatever, just put on target list, changed or killed.. Either you are with ass, or against ass.

Best hope for the world at this point is for the US to fail economically.

A major depression. Massive financial defaults.

Then and only then can the craziness of picking a fight with the rest of the world stop.

Nay. If US collapse, who is going to pay its debts & clean its shits? Best hope is their people wake up to their basic decent sense they long lost, overthrow their entire government, elect accountable technocrats to lead and start living prudently that a sane nation should. No war, no military, no free printing Fiat dollars, just work & live decently in peace with the world. Of course pay up all the debts over next few generations. Don’t screw up my usd saving.

The thing is that this country, USA, absorbs all kinds of people from all over the world, so we have among us people who glorify the Nazis of Ukraine, or whatever, but they are not what I would call Americans, not born-and-raised in USA. We have gotten tired of all that, so when people say, like, Jews who say that Israel is threatened by the horrible Arabs, etc., we tend to just say, Oh yeah, sure. That has something to do with why we don’t want any more immigrants.

Granpa, all your elected Pres, congressmen, Pentagon war mongers, Military killers, MIC, Wall Street, CIA, NSA, presstitutes’ bosses…are all what you called born-and-raised Americans. New migrants don’t get these security clearance.

Don’t talk to me of Soviet propaganda. Talk better of your fake news agencies and your propaganda. Speak about fool zoo of US imbeciles like bushes, clintons, obama, trump … Actually Soviet propaganda was right abou West, and we got this lesson, we’ll never believe to West and especially US. All Us can win it’s bomb peasful countries like Serbia, and you can be sure we’ll never forget and never forgive it. You also can destroy peasfull cities with nuklear bombs like you did in Japan. And yes we got it now, now most Russians hate you, I mean the country. If during Vietnam war there were demonstrations agains war, but now seems that you like it. Got should not help you, God should hel us, the sane part of the world

They are not moron, but accomplice. Collectively they choosen they murderous leaders, are responsible for everything their leaders did. Osama had already explained that to Yankees. Your pres bomb me, i bomb you, don’t whine.

With rivals /
potential enemies like China
and eventually India, who in
time will be able to muster
conventional forces and
troop contingents far larger
than ours, we cannot give up
the nuke deterrent.

Why would there be rivals or enemies if Yankees just stay at own land instead of poking your nose 8000miles away to sniff others ass and threaten to nuke if they are not to Yankees delight smell?

Thank you, well, I’m depressed when see and hear the bullshit which goin on.
And nothing we can do except this bloody button.
Those stupids in their russophobia even forgetting that theirs lives also have end.

Both seeing you posting and comments safe nuclear button. Seems you were depressed. I meant they are starting contemplating Oprah as possible next presidential candidate for 2020 run. Everybody deserves leaders one elects.

his near hatred for Slovaks ‘dumb farmers’

Many older Czechs were traumatised by 1968 and pos-1968 ‘normalisation’ in the 70′s (and federation that was also formed in 1968, until then Czechoslovakia was centralised). Czechs thought that Slovaks run the country, the leader Husak was from Bratislava. It is true that Slovakia and especially Bratislava prospered in the 70′s and 80′s, and it was outwardly lot more loyal. Older Czechs took it as ‘betrayal’ and it still lingers even now. Slovaks simply benefitted from socialism a lot more – they literally developed the country from a very backward state. We also grew a lot faster – better demographics. Suddenly there were young Slovak farmer kids everywhere, including Prague. The leadership in Prague in 70′s and 80′s was very visibly a lot of ambitious Slovaks with a few Czech second-rate communists.

I came from a ‘dumb’ farmers family. But it has never bothered us, we call Prague intellectuals by worse names, but nobody really means it…except maybe bitter emigres, they hated everyone anyway.

“But Trump ordering an investigation would mean that he bets everything. Including his own life.
So why he would do that, particularly because he would loose.”

I disagree for several reasons. But if you are going to argue that point, I’m going to ask you: Why didn’t the “deep state” already deploy a lone nut against him…even before the election took place? They couldn’t afford to take the risk of letting an ostensibly sincere person anywhere near the levers of power, could they?

Conversely, if Trump won’t investigate 9/11 due to fear of assassination, why was he not afraid of running for president – on a platform of defiance to the deep state – in the first place? How do you get to have it both ways?

Also, what good would it do to kill him after he already starts the ball rolling? For example, he could give a press conference and announce to the world that the paper by Hulsey et al. demands a new investigation, and he is ordering the U.S. atty. to begin an immediate investigation, or something like that.

He’s going to fire up the people by doing the right thing – something that could put an end to the “deep state” once and for all – and they’re going to kill him THEN? By then it would already be too late.

Finally, the “deep state”, if left to pursue its agenda is going to kill off most of humanity anyway (including Trump and his family), so what does he have to lose? He can take a risk of dying by way of targeted lone nut or he can die by way of nuclear winter with the rest of us, either way he’s dead anyway, so what does he have to lose?

Not at all just a correction on who really started the cold war to end the conversation..

“But I don’t see any point in ‘getting’ Trump.”

The point is that there are too many credulous fools like Paul Craig Roberts who are defending Donald John Trump, no matter what he does or fails to do.

According to credulous fools like Roberts, Obama did the evil he did because he was evil; whereas Donald John Trump does the evil that he does merely because he’s “weak”.

It simply not within the realm of possibility (in Roberts’ universe) that Trump and his handlers set out to deceive us from the beginning.

And as Sun Tzu would probably tell you if he were here, this kind of “thinking”, i.e., deceiving yourself because you can’t admit that you were fooled, is very dangerous.

“Yes, he is a mass murderer, but that has nothing to do with his middle name.”

Did I say otherwise? Sometimes I call him “Orange Clown”; sometimes I call him “Teflon Don the con man”; sometimes I refer to him as the presently seated “2nd beast of Rev 13″; lately I’ve been calling him “Donald John Trump”. Sorry if that offends your gentle sensibilities.

“Anyway, if we drum Trump out, who do we get? Michael Richard Pence!”

Donald John Trump needs to be politically neutered before he does any more damage (most likely irrevocable damage, e.g., nuclear war). To that end he needs to be exposed for the demon-possessed moral monster that he is, rather than be portrayed by credulous fools like Roberts as some kind of innocent, well-intentioned, babe-in-the-woods; a nice guy in a bad situation, etc.

They behave the same in Syria now. This way thinking of Americans is a main reason for the world,’s problems. And they still consider US to be the center of the world and others just shitholes. Actually it is just opposite and this is main thig for them to understand

A Chech who escaped in 1968 worked for me.
Can you explain to me his near hatred for Slovaks ‘dumb farmers’ ?
At the time I was too taken aback, he was reasonable man with a Dutch university degree, to ask why he had such feelings.
Cannot ask him any more, he died relatively young of cancer.

If you’re prepared to eat insects, indeed not.

Thanks for the clarification. Then perhaps on the days when you feel Czechoslovak you write in the good old tradition of Hašek’s The Good Soldier Švejk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good_Soldier_%C5%A0vejk

Yes, I also sometimes feel unease about employing humor for the situations where some people are dying, in some typical US or Israeli aggression. But, making fun of the powerful and conceited is a rare form of resistance available to ordinary people: hey, you do not scare me!

Perhaps we learned this whilst laughing at Communism, from works such as Péter Bacsó’s The Witness (1969 Hungarian film): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Witness_(1969_Hungarian_film). To this day in my life I never laughed more.

https://www.rt.com/news/417173-russia-sanctions-german-economy/

https://www.rt.com/news/397719-austria-oppose-russia-sanctions-us/

What our media do not tell us.

That usually goes without saying. but would generally expect that to be the conclusion following an airing of the issues: rational, data sets, etc.

Laughing. But I don’t mind shortcuts.

It seems to me that US-Western policy is trying to corner Russia economically or is preparing its own population for a war with Russia. The way these people plan is based on an assumption that they are in control – they literally think that they are playing one-way chess. That Russia will not respond or escalate, or act irrationally. If we are lucky, that will be the case. But what if something changes?

This is worth restating. There’s a basic arrogance and casual risk taking in US actions that is hard to understand. The American people don’t want this trouble. It’s why they voted for Trump, and most of them would be pressed to show you Iraq or Syria on a map, much less care about what happens there.

The arrogance and casual risk taking are probably explained by the fact that the US (its wealth and its people) are really just an expendable tool to further the interests of Israel and the US Jewish elite. The simple fact is that Israel alone doesn’t have the power to take on Iran and Russia, and even if it did, it would be far preferable for their captive American giant to do the fighting, and who cares if millions of goyim are killed and the US bankrupted in the process?

There’s no doubt that the US is Israel’s Nº1 asset and they plan to use it to the maximum to further Israel’s geopolitical ambitions.

bluedog

You seem to want to get this comment thread started up again, but it’s run its course IMO. Thanks for your comments.

“The world is not over populated.” — EliteComminc.

As noted already, on some issues we just have to agree to disagree.

Thanks for the kind words, but I am not in any way connected to Russia or Russians. I am a Slovak, or some days, Czechoslovak. We generally don’t take things too seriously, thus the light humour. I sometimes think it is a mistake, a form of escapism, that it makes us less serious. But it is in our DNA.

Hmmmmm,

for the time being, I do that votes count. And I remain unconvinced that any of the republican candidates could have beaten Sec Clinton. Since they were all essentially on her page, the default position would have been –

it’s a woman’s turn. But candidate Trump change that equation by essentially holding the entire pool to scrutiny as one cabal .

Our republic is under fire, but its not dead yet.

First, my comment about celibacy is in reference to me — All comments after Note: were about me however,

second, I am an advocate of celibacy for single people and if they are unable yo control themselves — there’s no reason for a woman in this day to get pregnant of she doesn’t want to do so.

The world is not over populated. There may be cities that are over populated, but the Earth itself has more than enough resources to sustain the current population levels.

Third, there;’s very little shades of great as to human biology. And the few that exist are manageable and have been since ancient times. Humans create other humans — that human development begins at conception and end at death usually some 60 years plus dependent on certain variables. Pregnancy is not a moral question — and there is nothing relativist about getting pregnant. it’s biology and decision making. Want to avoid getting pregnant — abstain or use prevention — not complicated and certainly available. It is not physics or rocket science.

As for over population — distribution management Some locations do not the planet over populated make.

If it was soured by anyone I would put it right at the feet of Truman and Churchill,Truman for using the nuclear bomb on Japan to show Russia our new toy,which he used as a club in all future dealings, and Churchill who always hated the Russians and want to attack them at the end of the war,but saner heads prevailed…

Anon from TN
I am fully aware that the same tricks that were used to start WWI and WWII are now played by the same unscrupulous elites to gain even more money and power by scaring the average Joe with evil Islamists, evil Iranians, evil Assad, evil Russians, evil Chinese, evil Mexicans, evil North Koreans, etc. I am also aware that the official narrative of the US government, parroted by all MSM in the US and its vassals, is total BS. However, this did not start with Trump. In fact, Clinton’s illegal bombing of Serbia and equally illegal tearing Kosovo from it without even a token referendum created precedent for all subsequent illegal US meddling in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Yemen, Ukraine, Syria, and so on. Many wars were started by Bush Jr and Obama, and not a single new war was started by Trump. His guilt is that he faithfully continues the polices of the war criminals that preceded him in the White House.
Personally, I see two reasons for hope. One, as I stated, even degenerate elites we have now in the US likely understand that they need to be alive to enjoy their ill-gotten gains. Two, the stories told by current US propaganda (Democracy in Ukraine, Democracy in Syria, Russiagate, Un’s aggressiveness, etc) are so blatantly false that even an average Joe begins to suspect it. That’s the beginning of people turning from dumb munching cattle into citizens.

“Your memory failed, it us Russia/USSR who put 30 millions of lives to a victory and won. You as always were getting profit of it.” — yurivku

You’re twisting my words. What I said in response to someone who was complaining about war after war after war and none of them victories … what I said is that going back to World War II, that was a war that arguably could be said to be a war that USA won, meaning USA was on the winning side. That in no way indicates that it was won without partnership of Russia (and UK). You don’t need to put words in my mouth, I talk enough as it is!

And anyway, look, Russia (or the USSR) got even with USA when entering the war in Asia for a few days, after we had been fighting many stiff battles in the Pacific throughout all of 1942, 1943 and 1944 and into 1945! Maybe Americans need an education about the European war, but you might need an education into the war in the Pacific. And don’t try to claim that there was no Soviet propaganda to the effect that Soviet troops played a much greater role than they really did in Manchuria. I’ve seen the Soviet propaganda films.

So let’s call it even, and let’s go back to those war days and remember that we — Americans and Russians — we were allies. And the Allies won the war!

Of course, it was all somewhat soured by old uncle Ioe.

“I don’t give the arrogant rich classes credit for having anywheres near the intelligence and insight that you (and they) do. ”

Nice try at diversion, Charlie, but I never said any such thing. The current government obviously consists of two barely distinguishable parties and these two parties have absolute control of the electoral process. These two parties have automatic ballot access while any upstart party has to expend resources on a large scale in order to gain ballot access every time they enter candidates.

The two parties also control the tallying of votes and the reporting of results. Look at what was done with the electoral records of the recent special election for US Senate in Alabama.

https://gizmodo.com/alabama-supreme-court-okays-destruction-of-digital-voti-1821223685

I don’t give the people who have control over the process any credit for intelligence or insight. They obviously have neither to any significant degree. What they have is control over a system they inherited. I’m of the opinion that the desire to control other people is evil, and evil is always vapid, and even stupid in many ways. Look at the politicians who seem to have lifetime positions in government. None are really intelligent at all, though they may exhibit a certain low, animal cunning.

bluedog,

Trump administration is different from Obama only in that it cut by 50% the number of immigrants who entered USA, compared with the last year of Obama. Otherwise it was all bait and switch, and I never said anything other than that, not since Trump came into office and started his sell-out of his campaign promises. Plus, it was worth something, in terms of future possibilities, to see Hillary tossed out. Plus, along with destroying the Democrats’ multiculturalism and identity politics, Bush also way back in the Republican debates gave the lie to the media neocon-ziocon myth that there was any basis to the idea that the Bush family has any popular support in America whatsoever … that being when he dissed Jeb like an old throw-away rag.

But I agree with you that “America died in 1963 in a place called Dallas,Tex…”

Ilyana,

I agree that a real investigation into the events of 9/11 is essential to any progress to be made politically in this country. But Trump is an insider in the world of big-money Manhattan real estate, and he surely has much to lose by getting involved in such a thing. The last time we had a mojor party candidate with any integrity at all might have been, possibly, Gore in 2000. He, after all, is a scion of an old-money aristocratic family from the South. That’s where such a candidate would have to come from, but of course, what we see is identity politics plus neocon-ziocon-controlled mass media employed to destroy the last vestige of the aristocratic tradition in the South — precisely because of that threat to Bushist Republican power. Early in the 2016 primaries, we saw our last hope disappear when the DNC with Hillary managed the candidates debate and were unbelievably rude in their mistreatment of former Senator Jim Webb, a Democrat who had been Secretary of the Navy under Reagan, and a decorated Vietnam War hero. I mean they went out of their way to destroy Webb’s image and chances. Only Bernie Sanders treated Webb respectfully. And Webb should have been okay respecting diversity and inclusion, considering that his second wife is Vietnamese. In the world in which I grew up, Webb should have had an unstoppable, a perfect resume … but the Democratic Party itself, they torpedoed Webb’s candidacy. Go ahead, ask me how I felt when Hillary lost to Trump … when the people threw her into the sh*tter, I wished I could have flushed it. And I am not even a Southerner, I’m a Yankee, born and bred.

Re: Bombarbier-Airbus ”deal” signed in N-Ireland and supported by the Canadian and Quebec governments (i.e. by the British and Franco-German bankers).

Will the US-NATO now try to use the ”French connection” and the 12 new military bases in Europe to try again for IRAN? The planes will be assembled in Alabama.

Why did the RCMP botched the investigation of Inslaw?

Why does the British colony, Canada supported the coup in Ukraine, and constantly lies on the ”rebels” it arms and promotes with its CBC-RadioCanada in Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, etc?

“Taking Down” British Officials

Israel conspires against the Mother of Parliaments

http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/taking-down-british-officials/

“If we Americans would wake up and start voting against all those in Congress who enact such abominations as the War Powers Act — that’s most but not all members of Congress — we would have none of these undeclared anti-constitutional and losing wars.” [Grandpa Charlie]

That’s one theory, I suppose. It is, however, based upon the belief that elections are decided by voting. That is a theory in itself, one which looks more dubious as I get older. It seems much more likely to me that election outcomes are predetermined and that vote totals are fabricated to fit the desired result.

When there are only two parties, and those two parties seem always to be on the same page of every issue, it’s easy for me to assume that the leadership of those parties are meeting to discuss election outcomes in advance of the voting. Having the electoral circus in place to give the victims of government the illusion that they are choosing the people who rob them and enslave them works as well as putting a little steering wheel on a baby’s car seat.

– Twodees Partain

Yes, these are all theories, but my theory which centers around phenomena of the War Powers Act isn’t based on belief that elections are decided by voting. I presume that you are getting at the insight that was famously expressed by Stalin when he said he cared not at all how the people voted, what Stalin wanted to know was who counted the votes. That’s pretty obvious and, actually, there’s been lots of research into that in this country, especially concerning computer tallying. But when I think about voting — if I vote or when I vote or if I don’t vote –I want to know if voting can or does have any effect at all. My answer to that question isn’t categorical and it varies by both time and place. Generally, if I vote or if I don’t vote, it isn’t to advance any illusion about government here in USA: it may have something to do with that kind of thing, or it may not. ( think of elections as just one sub-component in an enormously complex system.) The main difference between me and you is that I haven’t made up my mind and formed a prejudice (a “pre-judgment”) about voting. Meanwhile, voting costs me essentially nothing, so …

But I like your analogy of the baby in the driver’s seat. Very clever.

BTW: I do not agree that the leaders of the two major parties secretly meet to discuss issues or decide much of anything. I think there’s a lot of commo going on, and it all takes place through a very complex kind of ‘matrix’, for want of a better term (at least right at this moment). Also, I don’t think the electoral circus occurs because the powers that be “order” it to continue so as to foster a delusional system among the people. Yes, they do want to promote some kind of delusional system, but I think that the PTB are just as much enthralled by the, or a related, delusional system as are we the masses. I think social reality is much more fluid than you seem to think, and I don’t give the arrogant rich classes credit for having anywheres near the intelligence and insight that you (and they) do. Nor do I suppose that the rich are all arrogant or all united in any delusional or other belief system — although many or most of them probably are.

In general, I have recently become convinced by the article by C. J. Hopkins, titled “The War on Dissent” and published currently here at Unz. I refer you to that article if you want to know how I am thinking about politics these days.