[…] But I want people to think of something. See this from my earlier post Guns & Violence, Again… […]

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An easy argument for the emotional types to understand is this:

Billions more innocent people have been killed by armed military, police, and criminals than by armed law abiding citizens.

Knowing this fact, why would you demand that law abiding armed citizens be disarmed?

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“I struggle with a name for this collection of people”

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here you go for Mexico..

http://news.sciencemag.org/biology/2014/06/people-mexico-show-stunning-amount-genetic-diversity?rss=1

I am so glad I read this entry. Just read the major newspapers in the north and you’ll notice shootings increase as temps go up. And guess the demographics of the neighborhoods where most(not all) of the shootings will take place? And they happen in suburbs more than ever. Seems like Suffolk County Long Island is quite the shoot ’em up suburb.

Jesus would be indexing.

And would have better muzzle discipline.

shhhh! suggesting such a thing might hurt people’s feelings 😉

One of the best treatments on the subject I’ve read in awhile. It continues to amaze how well the Nations hypothesis consistently tracks across various topics.

Yes yes, quite right.

This addresses the cause (beautifully) but not what we can do about it. If you import violence prone people into a less violent society and the guns everyone can buy suddenly start killing people in larger and larger numbers, what do you do? Do you then restrict gun ownership? The law abiding citizens won’t stand for that, they know they won’t be out killing people with their guns and they want to be able to protect themselves from those who will. But you also can’t deport the violent ones, not today, nor can you kill them (in most states, and even those that do, do so rarely and only after great expense). Meanwhile parole and conjugal visits ensure that the most violent among us will contribute to the next generation even after they’re convicted.

But how terrible of me for not understanding that violence is all in the upbringing. Jayman, if only we taught these poor children not to kill, then all of this heartache could be avoided!

Excellent work Jayman, ( I am not being sarcastic, I really mean it ) but now how do we get people who are immune to facts and logic, people who prefer to go with how they feel about things ( and they are at least half the population I would think ) to acknowledge and understand this?