To paraphrase Dori, in The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey, “You can’t reason with him, he’s a half-wit!”

“Intersectionality, yeah. That’s a big thing with the Social Justice Warriors now, intersectionality. Someone tried to explain to me what it means; but I was trying to scrape something off my thumb at the time and didn’t pay attention.”

“Intersectionality” means that to keep their jobs and not be gulaged STEM profession people have to chant the batshit nonsensical formulas of the social studies parasites-for life, while the latter need never have to engage the difficult math and science of population biology. Because racism.

“Z!” sounds like your run-of-the-mill social justice white female. Full of labels, hot air, and very little else.

The Ford Foundation’s long history of racial disruption is apparently not going to abate. For an extremely interesting, and extremely depressing, look at how the Foundation and other slimy groups destroyed American cities I recommend Dr Michael Jones’ book, “Slaughter of the Cities”.

Depressing as hell but must reading.

“..Z!: I had a radical teacher in 7th grade who said: “All of you are racists and your parents are too…”

If you live in Mad-town, failure to homeschool your children is a species of child abuse.

No Asians want to migrate to Europe.

Asians want to migrate to the big country where prosperity is abound. All White Americans can go back to their ancestor land, Europe. All White Australian can go back to their ancestor land, Britain or go back to jail since down under is largely a place for British convicts.

Once all White people disappear from those lands, Asians master will rule the world and we will see another version of world domination. Simple as that.

In the long run, the Creative Class will lose to the Procreative Race.

When it comes to culture, what we need more of is the Appreciative Class than the Creative Class.
Most people are not very creative even if they wanted to be.
But even un-creative people can be Appreciative of the best inherited from the past. And they need to be Appreciate of not only culture-as-in-art-or-entertainment but culture-as-collective-memory-and-tribe.

The cult of creativity has over-emphasized the individual fetish to create New things while making us ignore or neglect past culture and non-creative culture. After all, being part of a race, culture, and community is not about being ‘creative’. There is individual culture of creativity but also communal culture of belonging and being procreative.

You don’t have to create art or become an expert on art history to belong to Jewish culture, Russian culture, or Chinese culture. There is the culture of belonging and preserving as well as the culture of creating.

The failure of Conservatives is they failed even in the culture of preservation.
American Conservatives tend to be amnesiac, with simple faith in God & Country(music).

Ask non-whites minorities in the West one question:

Would you rather live in a white majority nation ruled by whites or in a non-white majority nation dominated by your kind?

If the answer is ‘white majority nation ruled by whites’, then it is in the interest of everyone to end out-of-control immigration.

If the answer is ‘non-white majority nation ruled by your own kind’, then all the answeree has to do is GO BACK HOME and he or she shall be ruled his/her own kind.

Christianity was once the creed of the poor and desperate.

But as it became official doctrine, it became the creed of the rich and powerful. And the rich and powerful found ever more fetishistic ways of making Christianity ‘fun for the rich’. So, there were Christian-theme jewelry made of gold, silver, and diamond.
There were patronization of Christian art that was actually heavier in pagan expressions. There were separate chapels for the rich, adorned with all sorts of fancy ornamentation. Since rich folks have different tastes and attitudes than poor folks do, the practice/expression of Christianity for the rich and powerful had to be made fancy, narcissistic, and precious.

And in our own time?

Ever since Progressivism became the Official Ideology of the elites and their pampered children, it turned a game of ‘creativity’ and ‘hipsterism’ to make it elite-friendly.

So, we have Homomania that is so popular in elite colleges and gentrified communities.
And we a lot of ‘creative’ victmhood, or creativictims.

Sulkowicz and her Passion of the Mattress. (She was raped? Not raped? She said yes? No? Well, fuc* me in the butt!! What matters is she found a ‘creative’ or ‘cool’ way to show off her ‘victimhood.)

Kimiko-Matsuda Lawrence and the Agony of the Hair. (If she respects blackness so much, why did she dye it blonde? If her father respects blackness so much, why did he go with yellow woman than a black one?)

‘Micro-aggressions’ and ‘triggerings’. Since anything can conceivably be ‘micro-aggressive’ and ‘triggering, this opens up the pandora’s box of creativictim antics Just about ANYTHING can be said to be ‘racist’, ‘homophobic’, ‘antisemitic’, ‘xenophobic’, ‘Islamophobic’, ‘transphobic’ (or one of the 50 genderphobic), or combination thereof.
Now, victimhood is about hairsplitting argumentation of how someone could be victimized by a 100 or even 1,000 things in life. You could sit in a room and feel ‘triggered’ by everything around you as latently ‘heteronormative’, ‘patriarchal’, ‘cis-gender’, pro-’rape culture’, ‘racist’, etc, etc. Even sushi served at a college cafeteria could be a conspiracy against your kind. And if you’re mixed race, female, homo, and fat, imagine the possibilities.
Every would-be creative victim can come up with some new ‘meme’ to be ‘liked’ 10,000 times on facebook. That’d be so hip.

Holocaust of between 100-150 million American native people who had lived there for many

I imagine math was never one of your strong suits, probably logic too. Even when the 13 colonies consisted of only 4 million people there were recognized cities that no amount of time could erase from the physical record if they suddenly disappeared. Where are the Indian settlements that could even begin to support such a large population without any of the technology we have today? Have you ever been to the midwest during its bug infested early summer period? Now imagine the petri dish of the Mississippi and Missouri river valleys when the rivers overflow their banks in spring and imagine the thousands of square miles of bug and mosquito infested pools of stagnant water teaming with every form of bacteria and parasite.

What mind would formulate the question about small town Wisconsin and social justice? As if the two don’t go together like apple pie and communism. Wisconsin has been a fountainhead of progressivism for more than a century. I rather enjoy the LaFollette variety, at least part of it. But he’s gone. If you want a mental picture of how the Wisconsin mind works, imagine the capital rotunda during the Walker kerfuffle. Take this with a grain of salt, considering I am Minnesotan.

Or maybe it was the “small town” part. But do small towers not go to school? Do they not get the internet, watch cable tv, talk to fellow humans exposed to same?

White folks need to make a race-ist argument for why non-whites should support immigration restrictionism. White folks need to remind non-whites that the West will be better for non-white minorities IF the West remains majority white. If the West turns majority non-white, it will not only be worse for whites but for non-whites.

After all, non-white immigration trends are very race-ist or race-selective and race-conscious. Non-whites want to move to white nations with white rule and white majority.
How many Mexicans, Asians, Arabs, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, and etc. want to move to black Africa, brown Arabia, and etc? They might go there to find temporary work, but if they wanna permanently settle down in a new nation, they almost always prefer white nations.
Yellow Asians want to move to Australia, New Zealand, Canada, America, or EU. They don’t want to move to black Africa, brown Arabia, curry India, Gomez Mexico, and etc. Indeed, most yellows would rather to move to a ‘white nation’ than to another yellow nation. They feel white rule is more fair than yellow rule.
And this is no less true of Muslims. Muslims and Arabs are trekking to white Europe. They are NOT going to black Africa or Arab states. Some will say it has nothing to do with race and everything to do with economics. But as any honest person can notice, white folks run a better economy than non-whites do. It’s been said the migrants don’t seek refugee in places in Saudi Arabia because the Kingdom won’t take them. But even if the Kingdom did open its arms, the migrants will choose to go to EU with more wealth, freedom, and rule of law. (Too much rule of law, in fact. Europeans are so into rule of law that they obey even crazy PC laws that hurt their own racial and territorial survival. When rule of law has gone crazy, whites must use rule of claw and claw back to victory.)

Now, all these immigration/migration patterns are race-ist since they show that non-whites prefer white nations over non-white ones. Also, they prefer to live under white rule than even the rule by their own kind. So many Asian Indian dotkins prefer white rule than dotkin rule. So many Chinee prefer white rule than kungpao rule. So many Korons–Korean morons–prefer white rule over Koron rule.

And then, look at all them Mexers pouring into the Gringonia. The tacoheads say all sorts of bad stuff about the gringo, but they would rather live under Grande Gringo, work for Grande Gringo, and follow the lead of Grande Gringo than live under
Gomez Inc. Mexers may badmouth gringos, but they trust gringos much more than Mexicans who too often act like Mapache in THE WILD BUNCH and Juan in DUCK YOU SUCKER.

Then there’s Muhammed’s pedophilia.

And, by extension, Islam’s pedophilia.

Z!: I had a radical teacher in 7th grade who said: “All of you are racists and your parents are too.” That really challenged me to think.

Of course, the teacher was right (almost certainly more right than he knew). E.g., SWPLs know not to hold non-whites to the same high standards of fairness, “anti-racism,” and such, that they hold whites to. They know to blame everything on YT. Etc.

So Zit’s response was to double down on the racism.

Rehmat says:

February 3, 2016 at 4:57 pm GMT • 300 Words

Muslims castrated their black slaves. Were world champions of slaving, too. Islam says enslaving non-Muslim (or insufficiently Muslim) women and then “marrying” them is a good thing. Then there’s Muhammed’s pedophilia.

YOU’RE OLD, YOU’RE WHITE, YOU’RE FINISHED.

Whether it’s Tim Wise, Newsweek, Zakaria, or Rothkopf…

it’s the same message over and over and over.

“White man, you’re a now a bitch, bend over, take up it up the ass, and learn to enjoy it.”

White man is now longer a cowboy. He is a horse. He must take on the burden of diversity and obey orders.

GLOB’s message to white man is like the slave-owner’s message to the slave. Accept your loss of freedom and autonomy. You belong to us. Behave and accept your lot.

White man is to be like Dorothy. “Surrender Dorothy”.

Surrender Cucky.

To be sure, the GLOB is pulling something tricky.

After all, the GLOB knows that the main force of urban destruction are Blacks. Something must be done about blacks. But, shhhhhhh, blacks mustn’t be allowed to realize that it’s been done against them because blacks will get angry and volatile. Also, blacks are symbolically useful for their moral sanctimony stemming from slavery.

In effect, all this massive immigration is partly to realize the policy of: YOU’RE CRAZY, YOU’RE BLACK, YOU’RE FINISHED.

Immigration will be economically harder on blacks than on whites.

Immigration is about using newcomers as buffers between blacks and the GLOB.

But the GLOB can’t let that cat out of the bag. Why, it’s be ‘racist’.

So, it uses Obama, a black guy, to support massive immigration that will increase the buffer between urban GLOB and blacks. But, by supporting what appears like anti-white propaganda, the GLOB gives the impression to blacks that all this immigration and diversity is a victory for the black community since blacks and other people-of-color unite to destroy evil honker power.

Blacks be thinking, ‘whitey, you is old, you is finished, sheeeiiiiitt!!!’

BUT, immigration also leads to, ‘blacky, you is crazy, you is finished!!!’

With a never-ending tide of immigrants, the GLOB(made up of Jews, elite whites, and homos) get browns for low labor and yellows for middle labor. Blacks with gubment jobs have it okay, but those without are really lost and becoming more lost.

Not only does the black share of the population not grow due to massive immigration but browns and yellows grow faster in numbers and power.

I think all this BLM hysteria and even black support for Trump are signs are blacks are beginning to feel duped.

Immigration and diversity may lead to “you’re white, you’re old, you’re finished”, but it also leads to “you’re black, you’re crazy, and you’re finished.”

The so-called Obama Conquest is actually great for the white/Jewish/homo upper elite cuz they can use browns/yellows as buffers between themselves and dangerous blacks.

Good stuff.

Short of pitchforks or tar and feathers, ridicule is the best antidote to PC.

But make no mistake, anti-racism is a religion, or rather one of the commandments of the PC religion that has supplanted Western Christianity. Moreover, it is a catastrophically self-destructive principle, that among other things justifies inviting millions of aggressive, young, male adherents of militant Islam to swamp your homeland and take your women. PC, in other words, is the religion of self-genocide.

Taylor is pro-Jew controlled opposition.

I suspect he’s already baked.

I admit I had ‘Because I Got High’ playing in my head the minute I saw his picture.

Fact-mongering is called by the media as ‘Fear-mongering’.

“White Privilege Conference?”

LOL: How about a “Black Privilege Conference?”, or better “Red Indian Privilege Conference?”

Historically, Red Indian have more rights over America than the White European convicted thieves and murderers shipped to America, Australia and New Zealand after the “discovery these lands.

Americans, generation after generations have been brought up on myths and lies about how their European ancestors discovered Americana in early sixteenth century. These include crediting Christopher Columbus for the discovery of the New World for the King of Portugal and the mantra, “a land without people for a people without land“, created by early colonists to cover their land theft and Holocaust of between 100-150 million American native people who had lived there for many, many centuries before the arrival of Columbus. In 1930, armed European Jewish settlers also applied the same mantra to whitewash their occupation of Palestine.

The European colonists in United States and Canada also celebrate the myth of Thanksgiving. It’s based on the 1614 story when a band of English explorers sailed home to England with a ship full of American Indians bound for slavery. The left behind smallpox which virtually wiped out those who were lucky to make escape. By the time these Judeo-Christian “pilgrims” arrived in Massachusetts Bay they found only one Indian slave who survived slavery in England and spoke English language. He taught them to grow corn and fish – and negotiated a peace treaty between the “pilgrims” and the Wampanoag Nation. Next year, the “pilgrims” threw a big feast to celebrate “peace treaty”. That feast became the first and last Thanksgiving celebrated together by the Natives and the White settlers. After that, the Natives suffered a century-long Holocaust at the hands of the European colonists. The only other Native who faced a similar Holocaust at the hands of European Judeo-Christians was in Australia.

https://rehmat1.com/2014/11/28/thanksgiving-for-what/

Thanks for the link to McWhorter’s article, John. That’s exactly how I feel about PC: it’s our new state religion, and to disagree with it is ‘heresy’. But some of us quietly keep the old ‘pagan’ faith alive on the digital underground.

My fave was the Spartacus one.

Waaaay too much subtext in the one directly above it, tho.

How’s about: “Ladies: The Intersectionality of Mudsharking, Getting-your -ass-beat, and VD.”

Jewish Power fixed it to be this way, but Jared Taylor is so slavish to the Jews.

Nothing that being locked in a concrete cell with Hank Williams Jr blasting and George C Scott reading Gustave Le Bon’s ‘The Psychology of Peoples’ couldn’t cure.

I got a pretty good dose of this recently, attending a graduation ceremony at Hunter college. A good deal of the ceremony was taken up with congratulating a number of students who had lived in this country illegally , been “homeless” (which I think means on the dole) for some time, got to attend Hunter at in-state tuition rates, and then graduated.

We then had the featured speaker, a fellow from the Ford Foundation. First, we viewed a film of him tap dancing (no, I’m not making this up, he was actually very good).
His talk touched rather heavily on Social Justice, including the observation that “some of us” (here I flinched) were privileged and “got a running start in life… And a running start is never a fair start.”
He also opined that Black Lives Matter, which drew loud screams of approval from the audience.
Finally, he pointed out that it is the mission of the Ford Foundation to “disrupt inequality.” That sounds rather ominous, given the money that the Foundation has.

All in all, a very long three hours.

“Ovenworthy”.

One would think with your law degree you would be able to come up with something original rather revert back to your Jooism default button.

On a related note…

“You can now sign up for the 2016 White Privilege Conference, titled Re-Imagining Equity and Justice in the United States…”

I’ve had my quota of race baiting and white shaming, thank you very little.

“Think about this: The American Renaissance conference in May is to be held once again at the very pleasant Montgomery Bell State Park in Tennessee…”

I can’t wait for the seminars and guest speakers. I heard through the white grapevine that the agenda includes:

Your A To Z Guide To Reclaiming The Motherland

Shaming Your Anti-White Neighbor


Put A Muzzle On That Muzzie!


How To Spot Cuckservatives In High School

A Father’s Guide To Avoid Having Your Daughter Take On BBCs

I Am Spartacus! (And Anders Breivik, Too)

…and my personal favorite

Juice And Joos, Veggies And Vibrants

Ovenworthy.

“but I was trying to scrape something off my thumb at the time and didn’t pay attention.”

Absolutely brilliant. Maybe one of the best lines that I’ve ever heard. That will be added to my verbal arsenal.

You are delusional, they have high per capita, because they absorb the wealth created by high IQ races, once they become majority, they could NOT absorb anymore wealth and they will be in a stagnation of per capita

instead of cherry picking mildly anomalous results from a 33 year old early twin study, why not look at the cumulative body of twin study research – either from Bouchard & McGue’s side of the pond or Plomin’s – indeed, a nicely simplified & worded-to-be-nice-to-those-who’d-rather-not-see is Asbury & Plomin’s (2014) G is for Genes: The Impact of Genetics on Education & Achievement. cheers!

things are polygenetic, rude dude. you think b/c there’s no “smoking gun individual gene” for much of anything, that therefore genes don’t matter – what a dufus! (variant spelling: doofus)

In the face of the unexpected and disappointing failures of GWA studies and previous molecular genetic research methods, Haworth and Plomin argued that the field should return its focus to quantitative genetic studies of families, twins, and adoptees, which have a “bright future.” Thus, they called for a retreat to previous kinship studies in light of the failures of molecular genetic research, never considering the possibility that the critics were right all along that the massive flaws and untenable theoretical assumptions of these methods explain these failures.

Plomin could not name any replicated gene findings in a 2011 publication, and continued to explain these negative results on the basis of “missing heritability.”35 According to Plomin, “The big question now in molecular genetics is how to identify the ‘missing’ heritability; the big question for non-shared environment is how to identify the ‘missing’ non-shared environment.” As critics have argued, both are “missing” because behavioral geneticists have mistakenly interpreted twin studies as providing unequivocal evidence in favor of genetics. Plomin and his colleagues continue to place total faith in twin research, and continue to ignore the implications of other evidence, which includes Plomin’s own carefully performed 1998 longitudinal adoption study that found a non-significant .01 personality test score correlation between birthparents and their 245 adopted-away biological offspring. According to Plomin and his colleagues, this birthparent-biological offspring correlation is “the most powerful adoption design for estimating genetic influence,” which “directly indexes genetic influence.”http://www.councilforresponsiblegenetics.org/genewatch/GeneWatchPage.aspx?pageId=384#endnotes

But aren’t you non-White in the same sense that you’re non-Black and non-Chinese?

Without hypodescent, sure.

Interesting word. Critical race theory is useful for something. You and Misdreavus are certainly better off joining what Steve Sailer calls “the flight from white”. Whitey is the cancer of human history, after all.

I suspect that, like David “Undercover Black Man” Mills, you can pass as white or as non-Black.

Probably not…

But then again:

Singer Rihanna says she was bullied at school – for being ‘white’. The raunchy star says she was taunted growing up on the Caribbean island of Barbados because she was fair-skinned. — Singer Rihanna says she was bullied at school – for being ‘white’.

dude, the ability to learn varies by individual – that variance is what selection acts upon (if selection is allowed to:) e.g., let’s take a learned ability, viz., reading. reading behaves as if it’s 70 or 80% inherited (monozygotics reared apart correlate higher than dizoygotics reared together, etc.) that’s crazy- how is a learned behavior heritable? because the brain structure that affects reading is inherited. do you think the brain is the only organ that is not subject to heritability? THAT would be crazy.

not a joke.

it seems very clear to me now that hbders don’t want to or can’t understand the truth.

Every country needs to take care of their own first and foremost. As a libertarian you may not see it that way but I believe that identity is built on blood and history and without it a country will deteriorate into crime and corruption and eventually split up. There is nothing humane about that.

Also, if you give these 11M citizenship there will be another 11M and so on. Mexico is doing fairly well because it profits from America, but if America becomes a new Mexico then you will have to find a new America to profit from. Easier said than done.

For the record, “misdreavus” is non-White, like me.

But aren’t you non-White in the same sense that you’re non-Black and non-Chinese? I suspect that, like David “Undercover Black Man” Mills, you can pass as white or as non-Black.

He is also gay.

And his logic fails him because of that:

Dear white nationalists: if the vast majority of your own race finds you repulsive, you don’t stand a damn chance.

In 1900, the vast majority regarded “white nationalism” as fine and homosexuality as “repulsive”. So presumably homosexuals didn’t stand a chance of having their vibrant sexuality recognized as a valid lifestyle optionization. And gay marriage was never ever going to happen.

The vast majority of whites do not find white nationalism repulsive. Tim Wise and countless other liberals believe in a very important part of white nationalism, because they live in highly non-vibrant areas, as far away from blacks and Hispanics as they can get. In the UK, when people are presented British National Party policies without being told that they’re BNP policies, a majority agree with them. The BNP supports nothing that mainstream parties in 1900 didn’t support. But “white nationalism”, i.e. the natural, healthy preference for whites to have control of their own destiny and control the borders of their own nations, has been demonized by the media. Misdreavus joins in the demonization.

humans are homogeneous at the genetic level compared to other apes.

human behavior is the most varied of any animal. this behavior is 100% learned. (eskimos aren’t born knowing how to hunt narwhal.)

the influence of genes on human behavior is negligble across a sufficiently large sample of environments.

all behavioral genetics is rot.

QED

here’s an example regarding by far the most heritable psychological trait: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6609726

i can go into slightly more detail if you like, but it will require greater mathematical sophistication than even herr doktor professor steve hsu has to understand.

Of course, the U.S. has failed to keep out something like 11 million immigrants who aren’t supposed to be here (my libertarian side points out the significant failure of the law), but I can’t see trying to deport or drive them out at this point. Is that really in our best interest? Or humane? Criminals excluded.

I’m not opposed to an individual evaluation if it can be done at a reasonable cost. Although if you look to eliminate all candidates that will be a burden this may amount to something very close to a blanket exclusion, especially if you take regression to the mean into account.

Immigrants should be evaluated on a case by case basis, in my opinion. I don’t see the sense of a blanket exclusion of immigrants from various countries. And interestingly, Mexico now has the same average per capita income (adjusted for PPP) as the U.S. did in 1950.

Asians and Jews are mostly not third world immigrants at all and Hindus, at least in the UK, are smarter than the British average thus making them at least 20 IQ points above the Indian national average. I’m assuming the immigrant activist Misdreavus is addressing isn’t one that would insist on high IQ immigrants only.

As for the regular immigrants, they are mostly better off in America than in their home countries because they enjoy various benefits. But even with this help it’s clear that they have some important characteristics in common with the third world countries they come from, like a low level of education and a high level of violent crime.

: It would be better to compare groups within America on things like crime and poverty. But we already know what that comparison looks like.

Fair enough. We can do both things, and find that “model minorities” like east Asians, Ashkenazi Jews, Hindus, etc. fare better than whites, which fare better than latinos and blacks (not immigrants, like Nigerian or Haitian doctors) are right on the bottom.

We all agree with it.

But can we also agree that, on absolute levels, blacks and Latinos are very rich, approaching European standards, that they live much better in the USA than almost anywhere else, that a great majority of them is not really poor or criminal or on welfare, and that latinos are a little dumber but probably a little healthier and happier (their genetics is not worse on everything) than whites as well?

I think nothing that I’ve just said should be all that controversial, should it?

“The best “brute” indicator that we have of well being is GDP per capita so let’s begin with it.

Wikipedia:
“In 2002, the average individual income among Hispanic and Latino Americans was highest for Cuban Americans ($38,733), and lowest for Dominican Americans ($26,467) and Puerto Rican Americans ($27,877). For Mexican Americans it was $33,927, and $30,444 for Central and South Americans.”

Let’s compare this performance with that of Germany, the biggest European economy:

http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=gm&v=67

Germany year 2002 US$ 26,600 (GDP per Capita PPP)

Germans were poorer than Puerto Ricans and slightly richer than Dominican Americans, by this indicator. This is NOT third world country performance, got it?”

Average income and GDP/PPP are completely different measures. Even if they correlate well the absolute numbers can’t be compared.

“Let’s do it again with another good indicator of well being, life expectancy.

“Hispanic and Latino Americans are the longest-living Americans, according to official data. Their life expectancy is more than two years longer than for non-Hispanic whites and almost eight years longer than for African Americans.”

Again: this is not Third World country performance.”

This is not a good indicator for all groups because there are genetic differences between groups that affect life expectancy. Something that has been dealt with extensively on this blog btw.

“Last time I checked, Texas, California, Florida and other heavy third-world immigrant descendent states weren’t “poor”: they were richer than Germany for God’s sake!”

By what metric? You don’t provide a source and the only I could find is Wikipedia/IMF’s nominal GDP per capita. It has California as slightly above Germany but Texas and Florida clearly below,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_between_U.S._states_and_countries_by_GDP_%28nominal%29_per_capita

You may also consider that Germany has its own share of third world immigrants so it’s not a comparison to how things go if you allow third world immigration or not. It would be better to compare groups within America on things like crime and poverty. But we already know what that comparison looks like.

Also, immigrants from poor countries seem to do much better on your country than in Europe. The reasons for this must be multiple and fascinating (less developed welfare States, less Muslim immigration, employment “at will” doctrine, history of less xenophobia, HBD reasons (your immigrants are less inbred, because they are from Catholic cultures), etc.).

@Jayman: “I’m getting the feeling I’m going in circles here. Not a good thing (take the hint).”

I’ll take your hint and put some data on the table.

The best “brute” indicator that we have of well being is GDP per capita so let’s begin with it.

Wikipedia:
“In 2002, the average individual income among Hispanic and Latino Americans was highest for Cuban Americans ($38,733), and lowest for Dominican Americans ($26,467) and Puerto Rican Americans ($27,877). For Mexican Americans it was $33,927, and $30,444 for Central and South Americans.”

Let’s compare this performance with that of Germany, the biggest European economy:

http://www.indexmundi.com/g/g.aspx?c=gm&v=67

Germany year 2002 US$ 26,600 (GDP per Capita PPP)

Germans were poorer than Puerto Ricans and slightly richer than Dominican Americans, by this indicator. This is NOT third world country performance, got it?

Let’s do it again with another good indicator of well being, life expectancy.

Wikipedia
“Hispanic and Latino Americans are the longest-living Americans, according to official data. Their life expectancy is more than two years longer than for non-Hispanic whites and almost eight years longer than for African Americans.”

Again: this is not Third World country performance. I think the statement of your friend, that third world country immigrants REPLICATE third world countries conditions in the USA was WRONG, and it is very easy to show that this is the case. Can we agree on this one?

@Jayman: The most representative immigrants are the various Hispanics (mostly Mexicans and Puerto Ricans).

They’re also very prosperous… They don’t “replicate” third world countries in the USA. This is false, sloppy thinking. You must be more precise with with your statements. As it is, I don’t see any difference between your friend’s attempt on wit and garden variety xenophobia… Low IQ people, at least on the USA, are capable of living with dignity and incomes higher than that of European or East Asia countries. What is your beef with them? Let them be.

Packing…
If you do not believe in free will then who is controlling you to be a hbd blogger, and say there is no free will?

Like i said, the problem is behavior and not groups. Behavior are cause by different combinations of the evolucionary events. Healthy sexual behavior need to be incentived and the problematic types need to have psychiatric treatment.

To say ” don’t there free will’ is stupid, sorry Jayman, if your conclusion is true so who to be control you to be a hbd blogger and to say ”don’t there free will”?
patogens?
The problem about majority of homossexual community is the exxaggeration but many homossexual men are not socially dysfunctional and it can leave into account, to us not commit same error in the past. The same about black community, if this interest you Jayman.
And antecipate your probability of answer about my ”micro-aggression” (hihihi) against you (don’t leave this part a serious), i’m very concern about try make the good, but, stereotyping a great diverse group. I agree absolutelly that irresponsible sexual behavior is a social vector to sexually infected diseases but the behavior and not the group should be erradicate. If not, so we have make something with jews and blacks, type an cure to ”psychological problems” of ashkenazis and extremelly dysfunctional average behavior of ”black people”.

I think I’ve found my next boyfriend.

i’m libertarian-ish: legalize freedom! i’m socially liberal, but fiscally starting to think i want my tax dollars to pay only for the part of public ed that involves reading, writing, science & math. not so much for the sensitivity training, cultural awareness & indoctrination. folks can get that on their own – not on my dime. i wish libertarians would realize different peoples are not interchangeable – but that’s a problem with many political persuasions. i wondered about misdreavus’s beef with libertarianism (since i’m a socially liberal/fiscal moderate – libertarian-ish) sure, we’re totally wrong for being all open borders & also wrong for magically pretending all peoples can be interchangeable if we simply wish hard enough (b/c it’s nice, that’s why!:), but we must be right about some things…

You REALIZE that an income of US$ 19,2 to US$ 34,5 thousand dollars is not Third World income, do you? What this maps proves is that all things equal, asians will do better than whites, and whites will do better than blacks on well governed countries. This probably (almost certainly) has something to do with different cognitive abilities. But you links does not prove that heavy immigration makes a country poorer. Just look at it. The effect is dwarved by the gains: this immigrants are WAY better than their ascendents that stayed on their countries (as you probably are, vis a vis yours ascendents on Jamaica, am I right?), and even the immigrant-heavy neighborhoods are very rich by world standards. Like, top 5%, I think.

I like what misdreavus has to say. Its really quite hilarious. However, as a libertarian, I do have a reply to him. Misdreavus makes the assumption common to most non-libertarians that libertarianism, in general, ignores certain realities of human nature. I would counter this argument that libertarianism is, in fact, the only political philosophy that actually recognizes a very fundamental aspect of human nature

All human organizations and institutions devolve into bureaucracy over time. The larger the organization, the more bureaucratic it becomes. It is also a known fact that all bureaucracy is dysfunctional (this appears to be a law of nature that is rooted in human nature). Libertarianism appears to be the only political philosophy that recognizes this fact. All non-libertarian political philosophies and ideologies (religion is simply a subset of ideology) are based on the efficacy of large scales institutions and organizations of one form or another. Since all of such things are inherently bureaucratic and therefore, by definition, dysfunctional, it is reasonable to say that it is all of the non-libertarian world-views that are in deep denial of this fundamental reality of human nature.

30 years of experience of all kinds of human institutions have convinced me that this is indeed the case. This is the reason why I am even more of a libertarian today, at age 50, than I was 30 years ago.

Lol…

Jayman…

He who makes up the core of HBD tells “us” so much more about HBD than does HBD tell us about HBD.

You are simply reiterating that “jayman” makes no judgement concerning the self-annihilating “nature.” “It” just is… Here by potential pathogen.

Does it need a cure?

Does “equality” mean healthy equals diseased?

And on and on…

Jayman thinks nothing… HBD makes jayman equal to faulty AI…

Voila’… Evidence for AI… His name is “jayman,” “black” nerd who unwillingly “observes” no human free will…

BUT… Has human-like intelligence.

This is quite the feat. Turing is stirring.

Jayman,

I understand what you’re doing…

But clearly, it is motivated in part by the desire to deflect attention from a more perplexing question…

Namely…

What does HBD have to say ABOUT the homosexual “nature?”

I assert that they have “nothing” to say…

I assert that they have “nothing” to say about the self-annihilating “nature.”

Rather odd, I say.

Jayman…

That’s not what I had in mind…

The causation of homosexuality is irrelevant. It is the “nature” of the thing that HBD takes no notice of…

Meaning, HBD, at best, merely “sees” same sex attraction caused by pathogen. But even this simple assertion rarely, if ever, rears its “ugly” head amongst HBDers.

If the homosexual is a self-annihilator and that self-annihilating “nature” has perpetuated itself, what conclusions shall we draw as to whether the cause of said homosexual was a matter of free will and/or pathogen?

“Dear immigrant activists: 3rd world immigrants tend to recreate the 3rd world everywhere they go.”

Is this actually true? Last time I checked, Texas, California, Florida and other heavy third-world immigrant descendent states weren’t “poor”: they were richer than Germany for God’s sake!

This kind of slopping thinking that makes you HBD people so despised by everyone.

HBD is worthless until it makes its findings explicit on the question of the homosexual “nature,” i.e., the self-annihilating “nature.”

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Thanks for the link, but as you can see that study also uses a proxy, this time of registered partnership. We don’t know if that’s a representative sample. I agree that suicide mortality looks pretty elevated for this category so I’m not ruling anything out. But the rate is based on a total of 24 suicide – just 4-5 suicides more or less changes the rate dramatically.

Another thing to consider is that the rate for young people is half of the rate of the middle aged category which in turn is half of the rate of the 66+. Are old homosexuals so sensitive? Keep in mind that the time period is 1990-2001, so a lot of them must have been terminally ill, which could contribute to suicide and also explain why the suicides were more common with increasing age since those categories have had more sex and are more likely to be infected.

>It’s very difficult to know who or what an “anti–feminist” is since the word “feminist” seems to have no commonly agreed upon definition.

An anti-feminist is someone who isn’t intentionally deluding themselves that men and women are equal and interchangeable.

Excellent! Thank you for posting these. The libertarian one made me actually lol.

I have found that reasonably and calmly pointing out– that the disparities in the supposed effect of “privilege” are powerful evidence against the concept’s reality– proves to be an uncommonly effective method of arguing convincingly with progressives. I have not seen many folks truly abandon the idea after I make the point, but I *have* seen the good majority of (basically thoughtful) progressives at least become reflective about the belief in a way that makes space for self-criticism. So many of my peers (early 20s) now speak casually and implicitly of privilege. I really hope the evident absurdity of this and related ideas is enough to stymie their rise to absolute moral reign in the West. But I’m not optimistic, if this even has to be said.

Reality is the one source of truth! human reason is ultimately frail and contingent! and only assiduous auscultation of the body of aleitheia will secure us in our thinking! kai ta hetera!

Keep doing what you’re doing, Jay.

P.S. I’ve also found: when speaking with progressives about matters progressive, explicitly placing one’s self in opposition to their opinions will condition them emotionally and psychologically to be less amenable to reason and to foreign lines of thought. I assume this is widely transferable, but the moral righteousness particular to progressivism makes this especially eminent. A progressive lacking in intellectual self-awareness is a hard whale to find, let alone hunt. A little indirect communication is always a good thing in these cases:

http://members.pioneer.net/~tkerns/religsite/dqsite/dq-indirectcommSK.html

The first comment of Misdreavu about ”homophobia doesn’t cause higher suicide rates”. Groups obviously have similar characteristics (if not, was not group, duur for me, please) but is important also analyse individual by individual, subgroups by subgroups. The problem about many long-numerical terms statistical stuff of the human behavior is that it generally to be as summary and not the whole image. Homophobia is not the cause of the suicides rates in homo community will be right by some individuals and some subgroups but not to others. Is a life and is important leave it very well explained, specially to the masses.

“Do what works for you” should be applied to both individuals and populations, if you ask me.

Let my universalist friends enjoy societies in line with their evolutionary preferences. Let us particularist folk have communities that better reflect our own. Peaceful divorce. Everyone’s happy. We can stop fighting.

Fat chance of this happening.

“We’ll be long since gone before anyone notices the differences from genetic changes alone.”

Can you elaborate a bit?

Jayman, saw your tweet pointing out the youtube on how homosex has survived: “The Survival of the Fabulous.”

Okay, the title alone was enough to give pause…a lot of pause, but I forged ahead for all of a few seconds, long enough to see the guy in the lavender suit say, “I always wondered why nature would have made men like me.” You know, men like him–”fabulous” men. (And some gays wonder why the derision?)

Saw the clip was quite lengthy and nope, just couldn’t go further.

Exactly. There is no way for you to know, unless I reveal my personal information to strangers on the internet. But what *if* “HBD chick” turned out to be a “dude”? What impact would that have on the soundness of her (…or his?) arguments?

You’ll just have to take my word for it, I guess. I aim to please no one.

“Dear education reformers: We all know why you never send your own kids to “diverse” urban schools. #realityhurts”

I know at least one liberal educator who did.

Bless her heart and rest her soul, my dear mother was a public school teacher whose children attended violent, crime-ridden, third-rate, inner-city public schools.

And I thank her for it, because it made me a reactionary.

Had I gone to school in the suburbs or attended private schools, I probably would have emerged as yet another over-compensating, white-hating, black nationalist mulatto, in the mold of Eric Holder or Barack Obama.

Instead I was rendered permanently immune to all the shibboleths of progressivism.

Thanks again mom!

“For the record, “misdreavus” is non-White, like me.

He is also gay.”

How do you know? I remember how, in short succession, a Syrian blogger “gay girl in Damascus” was a white dude living in Scotland, and then “Paula Brooks” behind “Lez Get Real” turned out to be a retired white dude.

Or you could just be like me and do it anyway.

Yes, middle sized city, No to Midwest. I’m in a Mid Atlantic state, close enough to NYC to feel its pull (and occasionally visit), but far enough away that the only culture I can enjoy is that which I make myself.

I will start blogging as soon as I am informed enough to have something interesting to say.

I am a former Gay and an actual Bisexual ( with anyways with preference for men) and funny how I have never had problems with suicide, drug abuse nor pedophilia like many gays.
Funny the assumption about Asian males, since I consider them to far better Blacks on department looks and is laughable that assumption about them, when you look outside the American media and see for example, how Korean male bands are trending topic in the Twitter of many countries.
( SHINee in Latin countries such as Mexico or Peru, Super Junior was a worldwide trending topic today, Exo was in Thailand )

Misdreavu talk about QUAAAAASI all groups of the post modern zoo called Westland or ToAllforeignpeopleland. I think tha’ the ‘piece of cake’ is not was ”brutally” atacked by Misd… who to be????????
Jayman, i know that you know who is

About WN…
is soooo easy to talk it in a highlight of the championship… because in the not soo long-long time, to be
a white
and a nationalist was organically understandable. (but not exactly a ”whitenationalist#, but yes, a ”white” or euroethnic tribe with a specific past or common cultural traditions)
So, if the ”white people” despise the ‘wn’ since your beggining was a miracle to these ethno-colletivity continue to exist at today.
Hohohoho, now i know…
They are the ”mason-jewdaico-conspirators”.
I will wait Misdreavu attack this groups of the lunatics,hihihihi.

(Bs, i not have any problem both Jayman and Misdreavu, is just kidding)

Suicide rates is higher in homossexual than heterossexual like is higher in asians than whites like is higher in… Are statistics that necessarily mean any-particular-thing about a one group because many other different groups in different categories have the same problem. Beyond the genetics (and parasites??) is very important analyse the interaction between the environment and the genes.
if there (obviously there) a homossexual man who are not predisposed to commit suicide so, there more combination of traits that can explain whole painture and not only the causalistic and illiterate ratio ”more homossexual men commit suicides, so, homossexualism CAUSE the higher rates of suicide”. Is more complex like that. Other explanation about the ” differences between lesbians and homossexual behavior and predisposition” is that something that i read about the extremism to be man, or, the variation of personality is much more higher in men than women, like intelligence. Lgbt community is a weird michro-cosmo of the social landscape, obviously that exist a ”personality style average” of the hetero men and the homo men, but, if the hetero men already to be in extremes than women, so, homos is like a extrem compared to heterossexual men.

It’s very difficult to know who or what an “anti–feminist” is since the word “feminist” seems to have no commonly agreed upon definition.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20033129

The association between relationship markers of sexual orientation and suicide: Denmark, 1990-2001.

Mathy RM1, Cochran SD, Olsen J, Mays VM.

Author information
Abstract

OBJECTIVE:

Minority sexual orientation has been repeatedly linked to elevated rates of suicide attempts. Whether this translates into greater risk for suicide mortality is unclear. We investigated sexual orientation-related differences in suicide mortality in Denmark during the initial 12-year period following legalization of same-sex registered domestic partnerships (RDPs).

METHOD:

Using data from death certificates issued between 1990 and 2001 and population estimates from the Danish census, we estimated suicide mortality risk among individuals classified into one of three marital/cohabitation statuses: current/formerly in same-sex RDPs; current/formerly heterosexually married; or never married/registered.

RESULTS:

Risk for suicide mortality was associated with this proxy indicator of sexual orientation, but only significantly among men. The estimated age-adjusted suicide mortality risk for RDP men was nearly eight times greater than for men with positive histories of heterosexual marriage and nearly twice as high for men who had never married.

CONCLUSIONS:

Suicide risk appears greatly elevated for men in same-sex partnerships in Denmark. To what extent this is true for similar gay and bisexual men who are not in such relationships is unknown, but these findings call for targeted suicide prevention programs aimed at reducing suicide risk among gay and bisexual men.

are you my neighbor? midwestern medium sized city? population about 350,000? red state? i hope you’re my neighbor! we can’t all be fortunate enough to live in Maine:)

Dear anti-feminists: we’re not returning to the 1950s. Ever. Technology is a bitch, isn’t it?

Uh, not so sure about this one? Women who like staying home with babies are, shockingly, the ones who have the most children. Since all behavioural traits are heritable, we’re likely to get a female population which has, on average, a strong innate desire to stay home and have babies. #realityhurts

Hats off to Misdreavus – those tweets should be on exhibit at the museum of truth. Along with wax statues of himself, JayMan, HBDchick, westhunter, etc.

& definitely Sir Staffan, I agree that liberals are more open to truth seeking… unless they have an IQ below 115 & have permanently “sacralized equality” –

jon haidt’s research suggests what we sacralize “binds & blinds us” – conservatives sacralize authority & loyalty, whereas liberals sacralize equality & fairness – if one has already sacralized equality it might be too late to change their belief.

I’m guessing that higher IQ would have higher belief malleability (more open to evidence). belief malleability is analogous to science: one’s view changes with new data to more closely approximate reality… I’m with Staffan & JayMan that that better describes the mind of a liberal –- yet smart conservatives are really the only folks I’ve ever convinced/swayed to the cause (because they don’t cling to equality).

& I agree with Sisyphean, b/c I’ve never heard anyone say, “I falsely believe the following…” arguing people into change is a sisyphean task – science publicizers think they can bring science to all – they don’t understand they can only bring it to people with a 115 IQ & above!! …Misdreavus “brings it” to all, tho!

German Nazis were most definitely NOT “white nationalists”. That is an American projection. They were Germanic supremacists who wanted to build an empire with a German elite like much of Eastern Europe used to be. A true Nazi would dump the majority of American whites in various inferiority categories and many “white nationalists” of America would find themselves grouped with the blacks that they hate.

There were eg some Africans in Germany and mixed black/white descendants of colonial troops in France and Germany for the whole Nazi period and they were safe, although declared inferior races who could not marry Germans (but then, almost no ethnicity in Europe could marry Germans without proof of “Germanic” features). Nazi propaganda was actually denouncing America for what we now call “white nationalism” eg segregation.

The Nazis rejected most non-German nationalists like Stepan Bandera of those Ukrainian demonstrations (strangely no one on CNN mentions who the guy in the picture is…) because non-Germans were inferior to them and they had no intention of letting Slavs have countries. Whiteness would have counted for absolutely nothing in a Nazi dominated world. Slavs, Celts and others were all supposed to become Germanized if they passed the doctor’s check and if not, well, then they’d die or be returned to a serf caste under German rule.

Nazis were not strictly against groups like Turks and those millions of Turkish guest workers in Germany probably would have happened much the same way with a Nazi victory – they just would have been made a second class caste more explicitly, with assigned ghettoes instead of de facto ghettoes and so on.

Here is the Wikipedia entry,

“Researchers have found that attempted suicide rates and suicidal ideation among lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and questioning (LGBTQQ) youth is comparatively higher than among the general population.”

As you can see this is attempted suicide and ideation, not actual suicide. It doesn’t even say if the comparison with the general population is controlled for age. It seems unlikely that there is evidence since there would be no need for a speculative proxy otherwise. And note that it says “comparatively higher” rather than a specific number – would you do that if you really had something? Some will throw in bullying into the equation but there doesn’t seem to be any evidence of that contributing to actual suicide either.

I think the big study that showed high rates of suicide, addiction, and mental illness was in, of all places, Denmark. (Or was it the Netherlands?) I think Denmark.

It’s sad that where you live could be anywhere from Atlanta to NYC to Silicon Valley.

I approve of male ramming. Yes indeed.

But surely a fair amount of gay suicide is due to homophobia. That seems like common sense to me, and I can find many obvious examples. And where are the stats on drug abuse from?

Anyone know if Misdreavus plans to start a blog? He seems to be ruffling feathers in all the right kinds of ways, I’m sure he could contribute to the HBD blogosphere.

Oh don’t worry, the only financial support I ask for is when someone buys something from me.