Third AND fourth parties are needed to destroy the existing corrupt sclerotic obsolete UniParty.

Where we can agree? Suggestions:

Every Vote Counts in Primaries AND General Elections

No Wars Without A Public Vote of the Entire Congress

America First Trade & Economic Policy – A Nation is More than a Marketplace

America First Foreign Policy – Protect American Interests, Not Foreign Interests. Respect Other Nations’ Sovereignty. We’re the Arsenal of Democracy, Not the Army of Democracy. Let Other Countries Fight Their Own Wars

Then let the debate begin between legitimate representatives of OUR interests on both sides.

Great idea! You named it too: The 99% party

US of A meddling into the sovereign nations and South America has been disastrous for these nations who to not bow to US interests and meddling. This started in the 50′s and destroyed many democratic elected governments thru sanctions and with CIA meddling and well placed infiltraitors and military backing coups. If you did not adhere to US multi nationals who wanted your resources, watch out you would be next for sanctions and coups. South America learned from these decades of destruction of their soverignity and resources and became independent until recently again we are sanctioning and destroying democracy. Of course we have the help of US Banksters just like in Puerto Rico.

So for all you who wish to compare Venezuela and Brazil and Argentina now to socialist failure, please take a look at history and Empire before you utter this nonesense.

I’m hoping for both Sander and Trump to run as independents. A closely contested four way race into November? That would be fantastic.

Now, this is coming from a GOP defector who wants to see the Republican Party burned down and rebuilt as opposed to starting our own party. Don’t forget that there’s a good segment of the 99% who do not have socialist views. Monochrome dichotomies do not lead to good strategies.

If Sanders does run independent, he needs to go all out. None of this avoiding states and worrying about throwing it to the GOP. Stand up and fight. Go all in. I’m willing to throw the election to the Democrats if it means dismantling the current GOP. Sometimes you have to sacrifice to make your point. Anything less will be seen as weak and weasely.

BTW, I love how the posting form asks for real or fictitious names and emails. You guys get it.

April 21, 2016 Billionaires Give $12.3M To Dems & Hillary Via Joint Fundraising Committee Loophole

While past presidential candidates waited until they received the nomination to join joint fundraising committees, the Hillary Victory Committee has already distributed over $44 million to her campaign and other Democratic candidates.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/billionaires-give-12-3m-dems-hillary-via-joint-fundraising-committee-loophole/215770/

I do hope some day you and others who throw around abbreviations like MSM will include the words these abbreviations represent.

Until that day comes, there are some decent acronym decoders available on the web, such as:

http://www.acronymfinder.com/

http://www.abkuerzungen.de/

http://imgur.com/a/z9XF1

Had the same idea. After the corrupt Hillary machine screws Bernie out of a fair shot, Trump asks Bernie to be his VP. If Bernie accepts, all the Bernie voters go to Trump. If Bernie declines the offer, Trump says “Well, I tried to bring the American people together”, and substantial numbers of Bernie voters still go to Trump. In either case, Hillary is destroyed, which is what I want badly to see.

With Trump and Bernie as a team, they reinvent the old Republican party as the New Republican/New Democrat party, a single dominant centrist party that owns congress and gets things done.

Trump may be smart enough to pull off this sort of political revolution.

In fact, Sanders has *promised* voters that he would remain a Democrat.

Sawant proposes to support a liar.

A fairly accurate appraisal.

The solution is to treat political beliefs like religious beliefs and let each person worship at the political altar of their choice. Beliefs fall far short of any proof which is why they should be kept personal.

Forcing your political beliefs down everyone’s throat is as unacceptable as forcing your religious beliefs down their throats. The end result of both is the enslavement of people to those who are possessors of those beliefs.

Denis Diderot put it nicely: Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.

That, or man evolves past his need to control others.

On the other hand, if despite all their dirty tricks against him, Sanders remains loyal to the Democratic Party and backs Clinton in the general election, it would mean the demoralization and disorganization of much of our movement.

But this is exactly what he intends. So, there will be widespread demoralization and disorganization as a result of the campaign.

Which speaks to the writer’s brilliance as a socialist organizer in advocating support for Sanders!

Sawant is the sort of reformist “socialist” who can’t see beyond the point of her nose.

“Hitler was a great man, an even better leader…” Indeed, we leftists are idiots because we don’t under this truth.

But that’s unfair to the right, most of whom would reject your conclusion. In short, you’re deranged.

I do hope some day you and others who throw around abbreviations like MSM will include the words these abbreviations represent. You can add them in parentheses. Took me a while online to find out who the MSM are. Not disagreeing with you, just hope the editors who post comments with abbreviations take time to make the posts clear to all by including what words the abbreviations actually stand for. Some of us are just too politically uninformed to get by with abbreviations.

Yep. I’m sure Web Hubbel would be proud. Lenin, too. Just the kind of moron(s) they hoped for.

Why can’t these capital-S STUPID lefties understand that ALL the most demonic, vile, diabolical leaders came from the LEFT, not the right? (Hitler was a great man, an even better leader, though hardly perfect….. and NOT a dictator. And a SAINT next to Joe “The Little Jew’” Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Pinochet, etc. etc. etc..)

What a ……. I won’t say it but you do the math.

I gave this article a quick eye-roll. I don’t know Ms. Sawant. Maybe her heart’s in the right place, and she actually believes what she’s written, or has been written for her.

But this piece seems to me a good example of “corralling rhetoric”, the Big Statement made occasionally by unscrupulous politicians to lure the naïve, especially young folks, into supporting them, while they step back after a decent interval to return to business-as-usual politics.

Any chance the US sees value in a Venezuela that abides by our interests? Of course there is – if you read ZeroHedge all day they won’t mention all the nice little sanctions the US Treasury Department puts on the country, as well as the soft power movements on the ground. Blowing a country up in order to save it can be done in a couple of ways at least. Let’s hope the PTB aren’t intent on blowing up the US to save it, unless of course they already have.

If Sanders ran as an independent the liberal MSM would be deeply divided and Trump would probably win the election. Hence, it really comes down to how keen Sanders and his supporters are for a shake up of the political system. Do they want long term change or are they more concerned about keeping out the “xenophobic” unPC Trump monster?

Apr 21, 2016 Chelsea Clinton: Gun Control Opportunity on Supreme Court With Scalia Gone

You are placing the cart before the horse. Isn’t civilization a product of humanity?

The entire world knows that the US is far from democratic. The only retards that fall for this scam are Americans. But then again they are a people imbued with the highest levels of tolerance for the fake.

I don’t buy into rigged elections even in the Democratic Party. Hillary Clinton will win regardless of cheating and (super) delegates. Sanders appeal to young college educated whites struggling with underunemployment, their parents, stoners, people living in rural or semi-rural states and the far-left. Clinton appeals to minorities, feminists, lobbyists, upper-middle class, interventionists and I guess the beltway center-left. Bernie is basically a grumpy Jewish communist from Brooklyn who moved to Vermont after college. Why? Because he didn’t like the “reality” and Vermont is a shielded reality for leftists who dream of turning United States into what Scandinavia used to be before neo-liberalism. Hillary is an upper-middle class Rockefeller republican who turned to the Democratic Party in college and then married an aspiring and later very successful politician.

I personally like Bernie because he is critical of foreign interventions while Hillary is a neo-conservative shill. I don’t see the point creating a new party. There are already plenty of leftist third parties such as the Green Party, Working Families Party and Vermont Progressive Party. They stand no chance against the Democratic machine just like the Libertarian, Reform or Constitution Party did was not able to crack the Republican Party. Bernie Sanders ran on a Democratic ticket because it was his only way for a breakthrough. Sure, Bernie can join some already existing party, creating his own or run as an independent. It would be enormously hurtful for Hillary and she would lose the election. As a Republican I don’t mind that Bernie split up the Democratic Party and becoming another Ross Perot.

If I was a leftist I would look at SYRIZA (Greece), Sinn Fein (Ireland) and Podemos (Spain). They are left-wing nationalist-populists and have become pretty successful in winning election. The Democrats has acted like the rest of the mainstream left in Europe. They have basically become spokespersons for separate interests and then pander to multiculturalism, internationalism and feminism is scope up minorities and women. Tony Blair did this and also adopted neo-conservatism. Has it been successful? Well, it was successful but not anymore as the white working class and lower middle class is about to leave them for the broader Alternative-Right.

The future is the right….
The leader of the Alternative Right;

The problem is civilization, not humanity. Social collapse does not emerge from within subsistence tribes.

Apr 22, 2016 Daniel McAdams: How the War Party Works

Our guest is Daniel McAdams, head of the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity. Daniel is a foreign policy expert, having worked for many years on Capitol Hill and as an election monitor in eastern Europe.

I knew democracy was dead twenty years ago. This is very old news, and exposes a very slow person for bringing it up now.

[Pick one handle and stick to it, or use Anonymous or Anon. Don't change your handles to hide your identity.]

Portraying whites as a problem, or diseased, helped elect Barack Obama. All the progressive sites obsess over racism, but everyone is doing worse.

The only problem I see is you still think elections matter, the entire contest is about playing people off each other, vague wedge issues and glitteting generalities. Bernie is essentially the same servant as anyone else.

In the present time, given the situation that is with low employment opportunity, and dismal future forecasts, in all things, except maybe certain ”special areas” like Finance and techie-Silicon Valley, and … I would say prostitution, but I don’t see too many anymore, what ever happened to the oldest profession?, Well too many ”sting operations” didn’t help business, but I don’t see the girls walking the streets much.

But given the lousy outlook for anybody who cares, about the prospects of the kids, and their predicament with their future, one where there’s not much offered for a safety net, where the nitwits believe in austerity, and ”pick yourself up by Bootstrap” or else! logic..

College is now one of the big scams, Loans for college too.

Bernie isn’t encouraged exactly by the powers that be, But, however, importantly he is allowed to exist! His tempered good sense is allowed to be said, because…

Because he is an Object Lesson in the making.

He was allowed to say the obvious, up to a point.

He will be foiled, his message will be stomped on, and that will be the takeaway for the next generation, while real changes are being prepared, which will see the end of open discussion of these kinds of things.

By the way Hillary is always either smiling her head off, or scowling horribly, what ever happened to just being down to earth normal looking? Answer: You don’t get to have that anymore, from now on, the people are going to be assaulted with scary faces and they are going to know to STFU, and

Overall, a very good take. Opening was precisely the direction i would have taken had Jus Sayin not already pointed to the reality that the Democrat party is NOT democratic and probably should be sued for its misleading claim by name. The Democrat party is TOTALLY corrupt and deserves to be scuttled and removed from the political scene. It is so deeply corrupt ~from the top down~ that it is NOT capable of reform.

The conservative/liberal/right/left paradigm is like counterfeit money. It is a false vision imparted by the minions of the ruling central banksters headed by the Rothschild crime family and various unindicted co-conspiritorial elitists. When the people are falsely divided against each other it is easy to project that continued development of this split over relatively minor issues such as abortion and transexualized bathrooms will lead to the point where WE THE PEOPLE have no rights left.

What i would like to see, contrasting with idealogues who spout leftist or rightist rhetoric, is a grand coalition of the politically disenfranchised by way of a melded people’s campaign by BOTH Sanders and Trump running as a team. They would switch during their four year joint term on a year by year basis, the Presidency and Vice Presidency. By means of a simple coin flip, shown on nationwide video, they would choose their cabinet, with the winning flip choosing the first member, the flipside guy getting the second and so on.

Such a development may seem impossible to some and highly improbable to others, but who has a better idea? Please share it.

The ONLY thing I agree with her about is the need for more parties.
The same needs to happen with the GOP.
4 parties are better than 2.

We need a new, truly free market party which isn’t dominated by Zionist interests.

As obvious as can be.

This is hopeless, Bernie is an establishment courtesan. Boycott the vote entirely. It has become an issue of life or death, maybe not for you or anyone the media bothers to mention, but the only way to lever a plutocracy is no participation.

Capitalism is plunging humanity into a social and ecological catastrophe.

The problem is humanity itself. No matter what system it has tried it always ends up in a collapse. Capitalism, socialism, fascism, Nazism, autocracy, theocracy, dictatorship, internationalism, nationalism, whatever you want to call it the substance is always the same. Humanity itself and its inner workings. Looking at history one sees nothing but a string of disasters punctuated by some successes. Looking into the future one sees the same. The attempt to create a New Man has failed miserably. The only thing one can do is to watch the developments around him, like the weather, and get ready for yet another calamity.

If there are concerns about helping elect a Republican, there is no reason Bernie could not at least run in the 40+ states where it’s absolutely clear the Democratic or Republican candidate will win, while not putting his name on the 5-10 closely contested “swing states.”

Oh, a *limited* presidential campaign, as stale as last month’s bread, as appealing as a sterile bureaucracy and as effective as *limited* war. I think that would put a stake through the heart of your inchoate third party movement.

So we’re going to have a new progressive party? Great, I’m a BernieBro who’s all for the idea.

However, I have to point out that any progressive party of the 99% is going to have to paint a much more positive picture of Whites, especially White men, if it hopes to get anywhere in this White majority country.

Such a party would incorporate both acceptance of HBD and immigration patriotism as found so prominently in the comments here… a sort of “Alt-Left”.

The original progressives had a certain muscular spirit, personified so well by “Bull Moose” Theodore Roosevelt, and I’d like to see that reclaimed. It’s not enough to jettison the Democratic kowtowing to billionaires, globalists and Israel… we must also jettison flaccid victimology, bleeding-heart SJWism, and counter-factual narratives about the reality of sex and race differences.

Let’s fight the oligarchs while acknowledging that Stale Pale Males are the originators of all the things that make this country great… that make people like the article author seek to pack up and move here from a place that did not have the benefit of Stale Pale Male guidance to anything like the same degree.

Let’s put Facts above Feelings, as Liberals claim to want to do. Let’s seek to understand differences and work with them as best we can, rather than pretend against all evidence that we are all the same. Diversity in how we think, not merely how we look.

Bernie’s viewpoint actually aligns quite well with all of what I’m suggesting here IMO, he’s just having to hide much of it to get along with the Democratic Party. Let’s meet him where he stands.

I hope Hitler II has the same end of life plans as Hitler I.

What exactly is democratic about allowing a Hindu Foreigner from India into America so that she can enthusiastically vote Whitey into a racial minority in post-white “American” on Nov 8…And Sawant can do that by pulling the lever for Bernie Sanders….

Spot on article KSHAMA SAWANT!

April 22, 2016 Hillary Clinton’s Support Base as Bogus as US Democracy

US elections, despite all the media hype and endless rhetoric about ‘democracy in action,’ are in fact little more than manufactured political theater. The country that ceaselessly trumpets democratic values and transparency practices neither when it comes to its own elections.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/hillary-clintons-support-base-as-bogus-as-us-democracy/5521237

This article is interesting to the extent that it reveals the ever widening fault line within the Democrat Party. Indeed, this phenomenon is a mirror image of what is simultaneously occurring within the Republican Party with the emergence of Don Trump. Both parties are, in reality, mirror images of each other, though the Democrat Party is more socially liberal than the Republican Party and as such has captured the zeitgeist; otherwise, both parties are run by the wine-and-cheese set. There is no room in either party for a white working class ethnic. Or an old-line socialist.

Perhaps we may yet see emerge what is long overdue–a truly viablemulti-party system which, for good or for ill, truly reflects the diversity of opinion in America.

Ms. Sawant and I agree on at least one thing: The Democrat Party is not really democratic at all; certainly less so than the Republican Party, which itself is not very democratic; although to that Party’s credit it does not brand itself as being such. A truly democratic nomination process in the Democrat Party would almost certainly lead to the repudiation of the utterly corrupt, demonstrably incompetent, and obscenely power-hungry harridan that calls itself Hillary Clinton. Whether this would lead to the nomination of Bernie Sanders is more debatable.

The only-slightly-more-democratic nomination process of the Republican Party is far more favorable to a grass roots movement seeking to nominate a dark horse candidate. This is why the nomination of Donald Trump appears more and more certain going forward. It appears increasingly likely that Trump will be facing off against Clinton this November.

The result is not a foregone conclusion. Despite Clinton’s consistent record of incompetence, failure and cover-ups, she will be the darling of the elites, the MSM, and the plutocrats who finance politics in this country. Standing against this coalition, Trump has been voicing the concerns of a majority of voters and proposing plausible solutions that resonate with them. The power of this policy-driven approach and its obvious resonance with the electorate is demonstrated best when one notices that the elite’s well orchestrated attacks on Trump carefully and consistently avoid rationally addressing the issues he raises.

All that said, I would love to see a match up between Sanders and Trump in November, as unlikely as that now appears to be. As a native born, son of the working class who is now firmly embedded in this country’s middle class I suspect that I have a much better feel for this country’s politics than Ms. Sawant and her various associates on the left. I will give them a hint: Their expectations are doomed to disappointment until the demographic character of this country’s electorate undergoes the changes they hope for and seek. But if the country’s demographics ever do change to this extent we will have degenerated into another Venezuela or Brazil and I, for one, will bid Ms. Sawant and her leftist colleagues welcome to the sorry spoils.

Khama Sawant is Seattle City Council Woman and member of Socialist Alternative.
- Can you please diagnose Venezuela when you get a chance? Perhaps Socialism was not applied correctly in this case.
- And please do not bring up Scandinavia in your diagnosis.

I’ve got an even better idea:how about deporting the South Asian Fifth Column …of which Khama Sawant is a member of….out of America-instead of having Khama Sawant(a foreign national from India) lecturing Whitey about the Joy of Race-Replacement Immigration Policy.

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“…Khama Sawant is Seattle City Council Woman and member of Socialist Alternative.”

I’ll bet she is too.

“…Sign #Movement4Bernie’s petition calling on Bernie to run all the way and launch a new party of the 99%…”

Consider it done!

Trump 2016.

All people who vote or go to church are too damn dumb to breathe.
With Christianity you get a big Jew Jesus sending you to hell if you don’t suck up to stupid dogma created by the Caesars to control the dumb and ignorant.
With government you get Jew control at every level.
Those who do not name the enemy by name, Khazar JEWS, are complicit in their crimes.

I would love to see both parties destroyed. I’d love to see the federal mafia police state destroyed, but I fear it is all just a fantasy and no one person will be able to alter the course of this amerikan juggernaut into oblivion.